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TNP'R
03-03-2012, 5:25 PM
A couple people on another forum mentioned that it was illegal to put a vertical grip on a piston driven ar-15. They mentioned it was a federal law.

Is this correct?

tujungatoes
03-03-2012, 5:27 PM
Piston...legal. Pistol...illegal(without tax stamp). Stay away from ARFCOM it has a higher retard ratio than we do.

TNP'R
03-03-2012, 5:28 PM
Piston...no Pistol...yes

Gotcha.

Noah3683
03-03-2012, 5:29 PM
um that's even too stupid for Commiefornia. Well I'd hope at least lol. BS

MrPlink
03-03-2012, 5:34 PM
Sounds like a buncha
http://www.foodfrommexico.com/fiestas/images/fud.gif

They might have meant PISTOL, and even at that they would only be half right.

If you LEGALLY acquire a NFA stamp declaring your AR pistol an AOW, then you can do it, OR if your AR pistol is at least 26inches of length then you can also install a VFG ala Franklin Armory XO-26 as seen below
http://www.franklinarmory.com/files/products/XO-26_800x280.jpg

edit: which reminds me I need to measure my AR pistol, I actually think mine is >26in

ACRfan
03-03-2012, 7:54 PM
Turners sells ar pistols with vertical grips..

Quiet
03-03-2012, 9:46 PM
Turners sells ar pistols with vertical grips..

Under Federal laws, those AR "psitols" are not really pistols but Title 1 "other" firearms.

Under CA laws, they are considered "psitols"

This is because Federal laws defining what is or is not a handgun differs from CA laws.

A Title 1 "other" can legally have a vertical forward grip attached to it.

deviljon
03-03-2012, 9:53 PM
Under Federal laws, those AR "psitols" are not really pistols but Title 1 "other" firearms.

Under CA laws, they are considered "psitols"

This is because Federal laws defining what is or is not a handgun differs from CA laws.

A Title 1 "other" can legally have a vertical forward grip attached to it.

So if I build a pistol lower, mate it with a pistol upper, can I then register it as "other" and legally have a vertical grip on it?

Quiet
03-03-2012, 10:04 PM
So if I build a pistol lower, mate it with a pistol upper, can I then register it as "other" and legally have a vertical grip on it?
Under CA laws...
1. You can't register a firearm as a "other".
2. Any firearm with a barrel length of less than 16" is considered a "handgun".

Under Federal laws...
In order to be considered a "other":
1. It can never have a shoulder stock attached to it.
2. The overall length must be greater than 26".

LovingTheYear1911
03-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Umm I have a vertical grip on my AR, but it also has a bullet button.

G60
03-03-2012, 10:08 PM
What forum.

xibunkrlilkidsx
03-04-2012, 8:43 AM
On a featureless build isnt also illegal to have a fore grip?

Arkangel
03-04-2012, 9:41 AM
The bs people spew out is amazing. It actually makes me smile sometimes.

LovingTheYear1911
03-04-2012, 12:24 PM
As long as you have a fixed magazine (bullet button) you can have a vertical grip.

702Shooter
03-04-2012, 1:23 PM
Stay away from ARFCOM it has a higher retard ratio than we do.


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