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mag360
02-29-2012, 10:01 PM
looking on exile machines site, I want to make mine similar to this.

https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/hammerhead-complete-featureless-type-i-ii-kit-45449.html

but I want to use my existing spring and buffer, and I don't want that fancy stock, I just want to run my existing stock (pinned), but attached to the exile machine grip.

I'm starting from a bullet buttoned lower receiver.

I have:

Compensator: troy claymore
Grip: hammerhead
Original mag release

Need?

KNS rear takedown pin
ambi safety, which one?
CAR buffer tube
buffer tube rubber cover
do I need a part to attach the stock to the hammerhead grip?
do I need a part to attach the car buffer to the receiver? that has a quick detach for my sling?

mag360
02-29-2012, 10:13 PM
if I want to just do it like this, but pin the factory stock, can I leave off the KNS takedown pin. I know i'd be able to leave off the new buffer tube. The exile page says you can get a closer in grip when using the takedown pin, I want my hand to be as close to the receiver as possible so I can get my thumb in there and on the side of the original safety.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/jg15photo/gun%20stuff/58aa05ba.jpg

Chaos47
02-29-2012, 10:22 PM
There are multiple configurations that can be done with a hammer head:
https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/pages/hammerhead-configurations-2.html

You show a photo of a Type 3 configuration but then say you want to attach the stock to the grip which would be Type 1.

Which are you trying to do?

Chaos47
02-29-2012, 10:38 PM
If you are doing type 3 you do not need another buffer tube the one you have is all you need. Just replace your pistol grip with the hammer head

If you are doing type 1 then you need a pistol buffer tube and rubber cover if you want.
Put that where your current buffer tube is. Then just screw the carbine buffer tube and stock into the Hammerhead

They talk about that KNS pin because it apparently lets you not use a carbine endplate
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=17158/Product/AR-15-M16-PUSH-BUTTON-RECEIVER-PINS
Carbine endplates are like 1mm thick... you will probably be just fine with one and not bother with the KNS pin


Can you post a photo of your rifles current setup?

mag360
03-01-2012, 7:11 AM
I'd like to know for what I need to do either, see which one feels the best. Probably start with the type 3 then. Where can I get a pin to lock the factory stock in place?

Exile Machine
03-01-2012, 7:25 AM
To build a Type III configuration all you need is a fixed (or pinned collapsible) stock, non-flash-hider muzzle device and a Hammerhead Grip (https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/exile-machine-hammerhead-ar-15-grip-black-1.html). Ambi safety is highly recommended for any featureless build. We carry three different types. Be sure you don't have any of the other prohibited features (forward pistol grip, grenade launcher, etc.)

http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/images/T/TYPE_III.JPG

Also be sure you don't let the stock touch the back of the Hammerhead or you may create a prohibited thumbhole stock.

To build a type I, starting with the Type III above, all you need to add is a pistol buffer tube and move the stock down to the back of the Hammerhead. We carry a couple different styles of pistol tube or you can just use a standard carbine tube. Foam or rubber cover optional.

http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/images/T/TYPE_I.JPG

Any questions you can email us at sales@exilemachine.com.

wsmc27
03-01-2012, 9:07 AM
you want form over function, others want function over form.

If you have large-cap mags, being able to use them legally in a firearm in a detachable manner, that is an important function to have.

:iagree:

It's easy for many to dis the featureless AR's. :)

Personally I like the look of the 'normal' AR, however my go-to/training AR is featureless for stupeeed CA laws. Being old with 20 and 30 round mags is cool in that respect. :oji:

Exiles' Type III style will be our next assembly methinks. Seems that once people start shooting at training programs no one notices what handgrip one is using (after eyeballing the rifle on a table haha)...they absolutly DO take notice when the featureless guys shoot and shoot and shoot (given that type of exercise).

ns3v3n
03-01-2012, 9:12 AM
Have you looked into the solar tactical wrap ???

http://solartactical.com/AR15-AR10_c36.htm

That hammerhead is fugly! I saw one at the range and I do not care for it. I have the wrap on my saiga and it's pretty easy to shoot with.

spdrcr
03-01-2012, 9:27 AM
The Solar Tactical wrap is nice, I have one rifle configured with it.

I also have another rifle with a Hammerhead and being able to wrap your thumb around it can be very beneficial.

It really depends on how you plan to use your rifle. There really is no single solution that works best for all cases, as is typical in the world oa ARs.

mag360
03-02-2012, 10:48 AM
for the stock, can I bolt the stock in place so I could unscrew that bolt to adjust the stock at a later date for say, prone shooting competition?