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stockranger
02-25-2012, 3:09 PM
I'm trying to figure out what the laws are regarding night hunting for coyote in CA. Took me a while but I marked the closed areas on the map in the central valley. The remainder of the state is open so long as there are no county laws like in San Bernadino. I've got that figured out.

I'm unsure about weapon mounted lights. I ordered a light that mounts on the head or is handheld but also got a weapon mount. Now I'm wishing I saved my 20 bucks for the weapon mount.

I know about san bernadino shooting map. Are there any special night hunting closures in kern, inyo, and mono counties? How about in angeles national forest and los padres around the gorman/ quail lake area?

From this link it appears that if you can spotlight from the car then you can have a weapon mounted light.

http://californiaoutdoors.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/hunting-coyotes-at-night-with-lights/

This post also seems to match what it says above.
http://www.californiapredatorsclub.com/index.php?showtopic=21414

This one is older and the guy got in trouble in 2008 but then dropped all the charges.

http://www.californiapredatorsclub.com/lofiversion/index.php?t10757.html

do any of you have the zones marked on a map already? I marked the night closure area I could scan it for you guys if you want. It will take another few hours to figure out the zones for light use.

I'm thinking I should just return the weapon light mount. I don't want to be bothered by DFG.

Just want to confirm this is the facts before I get busted out there!

Additionally, someone should file a lawsuit because they refuse to put a map that shows the night hunting zones. Instead you have to carefully use maps and google earth and figure it out. Its a total PIA and must lead to people getting in trouble or just being intimidated by the rules and throwing in the towel all together.

Sgt Raven
02-25-2012, 4:15 PM
Additionally, someone should file a lawsuit because they refuse to put a map that shows the night hunting zones. Instead you have to carefully use maps and google earth and figure it out. Its a total PIA and must lead to people getting in trouble or just being intimidated by the rules and throwing in the towel all together.

Why should 'someone' file suit? You want someone to file suit, break out your checkbook and do it? :oji:

ewarmour
02-25-2012, 6:00 PM
You should probably post this in the hunting forum.

263. Prohibition Against Night Hunting.
Notwithstanding any other provisions of these regulations, hunting wildlife from one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise is prohibited in Monterey and San Benito counties east of Highway 101.

Amendment of NOTE filed 5-13-81; designated effective 5-23-81.

264. Use of Lights While Hunting--Specific Areas.
(a) Lights of any size or voltage may be used to take furbearing or nongame mammals only in the areas described in subsections (b) and (c) below, and only under the following conditions:
(1) The use of lights for night hunting is prohibited in any area where the general deer season is open.
(2) Furbearing mammals and nongame mammals may be taken with the aid of a spotlight or other artificial light operated from a vehicle provided such vehicle is stopped and standing with the motor off. No spotlight may be used from a vehicle which is on a public road or highway.
(b) Zone 1. (Portions of Butte, Colusa, Glenn, Placer, Sacramento, Sutter, Tehama, Yolo and Yuba counties.)
Area: Within the boundary beginning at the junction of Interstate 880 and Interstate 5 near Sacramento; east on Interstate 880 to its junction with Interstate 80; north and east on Interstate 80 to its junction with Highway 65 near Roseville, along Highway 65 to its junction with Highway 20 at Marysville; west on Highway 20 to its junction with Highway 45; north on Highway 45 to its junction with Highway 162; east on Highway 162 to its junction with Highway 99; north on Highway 99 to South Avenue near the town of Corning; west on South Avenue to Interstate 5 in Corning; north on Interstate 5 to Corning Road; west on Corning Road to Paskenta Road; west on the Paskenta Road to the town of Paskenta; southwest on the Round Valley Road to the Garland Road; south on the Garland Road to the town of Newville; south on the Newville-Elk Creek Road to the town of Elk Creek; south on the Elk Creek-Stonyford Road to the town of Stonyford; south on the Stonyford-Leesville Road to the town of Ladoga; south on the Stonyford-Leesville Road to the town of Leesville; south from Leesville on the Bear Valley Road to its intersection with Highway 20; east on Highway 20 to its intersection with Highway 16; south and east on Highway 16 to its intersection with Interstate 5; east on Interstate 5 to Interstate 880 and the point of beginning.
(c) Zone 2. (Portions of Inyo, Kern, Los Angeles, Mono and San Bernardino counties and all of Imperial, Orange, Riverside and San Diego counties.)
Area: Inyo, Mono and Kern counties south and east of a line beginning at the junction of Highway 182 and the California-Nevada state line; south on Highway 182 to its junction with Highway 395; south on Highway 395 to its intersection with Highway 168 at Bishop; west on Highway 168 to its intersection with the Inyo National Forest boundary; south on the Inyo National Forest boundary to its junction with County Highway J41; south and east on County Highway J41 to its junction with Highway 395; south on Highway 395 to its junction with Highway 14 near Inyokern; south on Highway 14 to its junction with Highway 178 at Freeman; west on Highway 178 to its junction with the Bodfish-Caliente Road at Isabella; south on the Bodfish-Caliente Road to its junction with Highway 58; east on Highway 58 to its junction with the Los Angeles Aqueduct; south and west on the Los Angeles Aqueduct Road to its junction with 265th Street West near Neenach; south on 265th Street West to its junction with the Elizabeth Lake-Pine Canyon Road at Three Points; east along the Elizabeth Lake-Pine Canyon Road to its junction with Highway 14 at Palmdale; south on Highway 14 to its intersection with the Angeles Forest Highway; south on the Angeles Forest Highway to the Mill Creek Summit Road; east and south on the Mill Creek Summit Road to its intersection with the Angeles Crest Highway (Highway 2) at Upper Chilao Campground; east on the Angeles Crest Highway to its intersection with the Los Angeles-San Bernardino county line; north on the Los Angeles-Kern-San Bernardino county line to its intersection with Highway 58; east on Highway 58 to its intersection with the range line between R3W and R4W; south along the range line between R3W and R4W to the southeast corner of T8N, R4W; east along T8N to its intersection with the west boundary of the U.S. Marine Corps Training Center; south and east on that boundary to its intersection with Giant Rock Road; east along Giant Rock Road to a point where it turns southeast and corresponding with a projected north extension of Sunfair Road; south on Sunfair Road and its projected extension to the San Bernardino-Riverside county line; and all of Imperial, Orange, Riverside and San Diego counties.
Certificate of Compliance as to 6-24-85 order transmitted to OAL 9-30-85 and filed 11-1-85.

264.5. Use of Lights While Hunting--Remainder of State.
Lights may be used, in those portions of the state not listed in Section 264, to take furbearers and nongame mammals under the following conditions only:

(a) Only 9 volt lights or smaller, hand-held or worn on the head are permitted.
(b) Persons using such lights must be on foot.
(c) Lights may not be used in or from a vehicle and may not be attached or powered from any source other than self-contained batteries.
(d) A landowner or tenant suffering damage to livestock or other property by furbearing mammals or nongame mammals may designate, in writing, persons allowed by such landowner or tenant to use artificial lights in excess of 9 volts to assist in taking the depredating mammals. The landowner or tenants shall notify the closest fish and game office whenever furbearing or nongame mammals are taken under this authority.
No furbearing or nongame mammals including any threatened, endangered or fully protected species may be taken contrary to any other prohibition set forth in these regulations.

stockranger
02-25-2012, 6:29 PM
I think I have it all figured out for the areas I hunt. Sorry, I only defined zone 2 because I do not hunt in zone 1.

It was not too hard to define the area when the description uses roads and forest boundaries. Near the bottom of zone 2's description in the regs it uses the public land survey range and township system. To figure this out was a bit harder. Luckily i'm a geography major. To figure out where the line turns south from 58 near barstow and then heads east to the marine training area I used this map tool.

http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=GA

So here is a map of southern CA. The area to the east and south of the pink highlighter is open to any kind and power of light. You can use spotlights from your car as long as it is not running and you are not parked on a road and you can use weapon mounted lights. ALL of Orange, Riverside, Imperial, and San Diego counties are in zone 2.

Everything outside zone one and two you can only have the light in your hand or on your head. It must be 9v or less and self contained battery.

All of the areas inside the green highlighted area is close to all night hunting.

At barstow the pink line fades cuz there is grease on the map. The line goes through box #s 81, 82, 83, and 97. It goes just south of 40, turns SE at the marine training base(just right of center in box 83), then heads south to HWY 62 near 29 palms and continues across 62 to the riverside county line.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p27/plantshaman/nighthuntingmap001.jpg

Zone 2 boarder continued for N. CA. Kind of blurry but you can see Bishop and Mono Lake.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p27/plantshaman/nighthuntingmap2001.jpg

stockranger
02-25-2012, 6:30 PM
Wasn't sure if this should go in hunting or second amendment since it deals with laws. Feel free to move it to the proper forum.

So does anyone know if there are any other areas inside zone two with night hunting closure other then what is marked on San Bernadino Shooting Map?

Quiet
02-25-2012, 10:23 PM
San Berndardino County Fish & Game Commission (http://www.specialdistricts.org/2/FishandGame/)

The San Bernardino County shooting map (http://www.specialdistricts.org/2/FishandGame/docs/2010_cnty_shooting_areas_final.pdf).