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milotrain
02-23-2012, 8:07 AM
Was cleaning my 1911 on the porch so that the apt didn't smell like #9 and was surprised to find that the recoil spring plug wasn't coming out... SPROINGGGGGGGG-into the bushes. Guess I'm not shooting it today.

:facepalm:

Roddd
02-23-2012, 8:09 AM
I'd like to chrono how fast that spring flies out.

redcliff
02-23-2012, 8:20 AM
Try using an empty .45acp case as a plug till you get a new one ;)

REPR
02-23-2012, 8:20 AM
That sucks man, hope you can find it.

BaysicRyan
02-23-2012, 8:22 AM
D'OH!

BunnySlayer
02-23-2012, 8:22 AM
Dont know of a single 1911 shooter who hasnt invented a few new cuss words when this happens!!!

morrcarr67
02-23-2012, 8:49 AM
Try using an empty .45acp case as a plug till you get a new one ;)

I've seen this done before. It does work. :43:

Black Majik
02-23-2012, 8:50 AM
Heh, story of every 1911 owner's life. You can also paint the non exposed part of the plug bright orange, and have the glow in the dark rings stuffed inside so the next time it flies out of control you'll be able to located it.

I have my 1911 always pointed up so in the event it shoots upwards it hits my ceiling and gives me a gauge of when my recoil spring plug landed due to where the crescent shaped mark is on my ceiling. It works!

redcliff
02-23-2012, 8:59 AM
Yes the .45acp case will usually work, you just have to make sure your bushing doesnt rotate while firing. JMB was a true genius in every sense of the word.

The easiest way to avoid this problem is to remove the slide stop, then remove the slide with your left hand cupped firmly under the recoil spring as you pull the slide off. Then remove the spring guide, spring and plug from the rear.

No reason to twist the bushing until you can move the barrel off it's largest diameter and prevent wear on your barrel to bushing fit.

Sturnovik
02-23-2012, 9:02 AM
Yes the .45acp case will usually work, you just have to make sure your bushing doesnt rotate while firing. JMB was a true genius in every sense of the word.

The easiest way to avoid this problem is to remove the slide stop, then remove the slide with your left hand cupped firmly under the recoil spring as you pull the slide off. Then remove the spring guide, spring and plug from the rear.

No reason to twist the bushing until you can move the barrel off it's largest diameter and reduce wear on your bushing.

Wow a case works? Damn that guy was a genius. I mean not ideal but hell if you had to thats cool it works.

littlejake
02-23-2012, 9:05 AM
One reason I have several spares.

Sturnovik
02-23-2012, 9:10 AM
One reason I have several spares.

Yea thats a good idea. I have a extra recoil spring and spring cups for glock and springs for the Sigs. It cant hurt.

Lead Waster
02-23-2012, 9:18 AM
The orange paint idea is brilliant!

milotrain
02-23-2012, 9:22 AM
I have my 1911 always pointed up so in the event it shoots upwards it hits my ceiling and gives me a gauge of when my recoil spring plug landed due to where the crescent shaped mark is on my ceiling. It works!

That's my normal method. Unfortunately on the porch this meant that the plug went up up and away.

Love the 45 case idea, I might have to try that.

cindynles
02-23-2012, 6:10 PM
I recommend a plug with the flange punched into so you can thread it on to the spring. Keeps it from flying off.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26985/avs%7CMake_3=1911/avs%7CManufacturer_1=CYLINDER%20zzxzz%20SLIDE/Product/1911-AUTO-MIL-SPEC-RECOIL-SPRING-PLUG

al8550
02-23-2012, 6:26 PM
We've all been there

Echidin
02-23-2012, 6:42 PM
Was cleaning my 1911 on the porch so that the apt didn't smell like #9 and was surprised to find that the recoil spring plug wasn't coming out... SPROINGGGGGGGG-into the bushes. Guess I'm not shooting it today.

:facepalm:

If there is a bright side to this it is that at least it went straight into the bushes rather than ricocheting off your face and then into the bushes.

skyscraper
02-23-2012, 7:19 PM
You should have got a glock! :D



(I thought i'd beat the glockies to it)

Fishslayer
02-23-2012, 7:34 PM
We've all been there

Not a 1911 plug, but I launched the guide rod off my wife's SIG in the garage. Took a LOOOONG time to find it.:facepalm:

NytWolf
02-23-2012, 7:38 PM
I didn't know what you guys were talking about (new to 1911's) until I field stripped my new Kimber Eclipse. I guess everything has to have its Achilles heel.

MrExel17
02-23-2012, 7:49 PM
I have bad days when that happens.

jessegpresley
02-23-2012, 8:18 PM
this never happens to me because I use a different method to disassemble. Remove slide release, pull entire slide off the gun being careful to use your fingers to keep the recoil spring from coming out the bottom. Back out spring, guide rod and plug.

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jeffrice6
02-23-2012, 8:32 PM
Try using an empty .45acp case as a plug till you get a new one ;)

Thats outstanding!!! Never heard of that.... God Bless old JMB!


I recommend a plug with the flange punched into so you can thread it on to the spring. Keeps it from flying off.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26985/avs%7CMake_3=1911/avs%7CManufacturer_1=CYLINDER%20zzxzz%20SLIDE/Product/1911-AUTO-MIL-SPEC-RECOIL-SPRING-PLUG

Simple & smart!

Spirit 1
02-23-2012, 8:44 PM
A handy item: I pulled the magnet out of a collapsed stereo speaker, big old base mutha. Magnet already had a hole in it, so I got a piece of 1/2" EMT [thinwall electrical conduit], cut it in half, flattened end, drilled through, mounted magnet. Had a little handgrip thing like from a bicycle, slipped that on the other end [EMT is pretty sharp]. You can also use that plastic tool-handle dip stuff.

This 'magnet on a stick' is invaluable when doing mechanical repairs of all kinds, or dragging up nails & such from a driveway or parking area. These speaker magnets can be REALLY strong and will pull anything iron-based from a fair distance, also in weeds or tall grass. Great for picking up steel-cased empties too! Also handy to place it next to a hole as you drill to catch all the filings.

pyromensch
02-23-2012, 8:48 PM
my brother did the same with my grandfather's 1911...not a1, in his garage...hasn't found it yet...but he sure has a clean garage...now.

pyromensch
02-23-2012, 8:50 PM
A handy item: I pulled the magnet out of a collapsed stereo speaker, big old base mutha. Magnet already had a hole in it, so I got a piece of 1/2" EMT [thinwall electrical conduit], cut it in half, flattened end, drilled through, mounted magnet. Had a little handgrip thing like from a bicycle, slipped that on the other end [EMT is pretty sharp]. You can also use that plastic tool-handle dip stuff.

This 'magnet on a stick' is invaluable when doing mechanical repairs of all kinds, or dragging up nails & such from a driveway or parking area. These speaker magnets can be REALLY strong and will pull anything iron-based from a fair distance, also in weeds or tall grass. Great for picking up steel-cased empties too! Also handy to place it next to a hole as you drill to catch all the filings.
you can also go to home depot and spend 15 bucks for a 16 inch wide magnet, on a telescopic handle....made in china, of course, not the usa, like yours :)

RRichie09
02-24-2012, 12:08 AM
you can also go to home depot and spend 15 bucks for a 16 inch wide magnet, on a telescopic handle....made in china, of course, not the usa, like yours :)

Where do you think the speakers were originally made?

Made in China, invented in USA

23 Blast
02-24-2012, 12:28 AM
Never launched a 1911 plug, but have lost the much smaller cotter pin for a AR BCG.

JNunez23
02-24-2012, 8:02 AM
Man, that happened to me yesterday swapping out my mainspring housing on my GSG. Spring, bushing and cap flew across the room.

That #9 is a killer indoors, but I just made my g/f and her friend deal with the smell! lol I'm an ***.

PandaLuv
02-24-2012, 9:36 AM
Lol! First time I was cleaning my 1911, the plug hit the screen of my PC and scratched it.

glock22fs
02-24-2012, 12:44 PM
My plug has helped me appreciate just how many dark small places there are in my garage

Spirit 1
02-24-2012, 9:29 PM
you can also go to home depot and spend 15 bucks for a 16 inch wide magnet, on a telescopic handle....made in china, of course, not the usa, like yours :)

Thanks, I already had all the stuff so it was lots cheaper for me than a 150 mile round trip to Walmart. Plus this way I don't support the PRC or their slave labor, religious persecutions, mutilations of women, infanticide etc.

hyperion.excal
02-24-2012, 9:32 PM
good thing you didnt lose an eye. the plug can always be replaced.

LoadedM333
02-24-2012, 9:43 PM
Happened to me a few times but I managed to find the plug.:)

Marlin Hunter
02-25-2012, 9:51 AM
Was cleaning my 1911 on the porch so that the apt didn't smell like #9 and was surprised to find that the recoil spring plug wasn't coming out... SPROINGGGGGGGG-into the bushes. Guess I'm not shooting it today.

:facepalm:


You'll shoot your eye out with that spring.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL2093/12746039/23947549/401250607.jpg

Mikeb
02-25-2012, 10:07 AM
Someone told me once that "sometimes it's a good idea to disasemple things with springs in the bath tub with the curtain and the drain closed.
hope that helps
Mike

Snoopy47
02-25-2012, 7:47 PM
been there

hyperion.excal
02-25-2012, 8:01 PM
heres a tip, when taking out the recoil spring plug, use a rug (old shirt works best) and cover whole gun creating a cone shape on top of the muzzle. this will prevent the recoil spring plug from shooting up.

morfeeis
02-25-2012, 11:35 PM
Never would have happened if you had been using "frogLube".:hide:

TheHarvester
02-26-2012, 11:41 AM
Do you know anybody with a metal detector?
If you lived closer, I would let you borrow mine.

p2rider426
02-26-2012, 11:55 AM
My dad busted a light in the master bathroom with the spring in his 1943 m1911 . Those things come out with some serious zing..

sephy
02-26-2012, 11:57 AM
I did the same thing with the buffer detent and spring on my AR once. I was so concerned about the takedown detent spring that I totally forgot the other one was under tension. Luckily I was in my room so the spring only went a few feet. The detent on the other hand hit the wall and nearly stuck in! I found it after a few minutes on my hands and knees.

I like the magnet idea that has been suggested.

leoffensive
02-26-2012, 12:21 PM
i havea dent on the ceiling in my from my springer

em9sredbeam
02-27-2012, 8:45 AM
hhaahhhaaa, I thought I was the only one who had to spring shoot out, begin to swear, and crawl around the floor. Took me 45 minutes to find the stupid thing on dark tile floor. It's always good not to feel alone.

greybeard
02-27-2012, 9:40 AM
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The easiest way to avoid this problem is to remove the slide stop, then remove the slide with your left hand cupped firmly under the recoil spring as you pull the slide off. Then remove the spring guide, spring and plug from the rear.

No reason to twist the bushing until you can move the barrel off it's largest diameter and prevent wear on your barrel to bushing fit.
Last time I tried this was glad I keep spare recoil springs. I know it is in the garage somewhere.
:(

bodger
02-27-2012, 9:55 AM
This is how I put a fat dent in the top of my girlfriend's Martin D-28 guitar one day. It was sitting on a stand in the living room about ten feet away.

Bonk. Oops.

redcliff
02-27-2012, 10:00 AM
Last time I tried this was glad I keep spare recoil springs. I know it is in the garage somewhere.
:(

Hmm you must need to work on your technique, I did five 1911's this way on Friday without incident :)

greybeard
02-27-2012, 10:42 AM
Hmm you must need to work on your technique, I did five 1911's this way on Friday without incident :)
I will not dispute that.

mincoda
02-27-2012, 10:57 AM
Well in my experience all you have to do is buy a new one and when you get it all back together you will find the old one.... Works every time...:censored:

Sunday
02-27-2012, 3:48 PM
You aren't the first person that has had that happen. I'll bet you will not do that again. I didn't.

SouperMan
02-27-2012, 4:03 PM
Yep, second that-once you buy a new one, you will find the old one. Have you tried sweeping the area with a magnet?

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Joe
02-27-2012, 5:02 PM
That's why I cut my spring to make it just long enough to put pressure on the plug. I don't know why the manufacturers make them so long.

Krill
02-27-2012, 11:41 PM
can someone post a pic of using a 45 case as a plug, for those of us who wish they had a 1911 and cant play along at home.

redcliff
02-28-2012, 7:27 AM
That's why I cut my spring to make it just long enough to put pressure on the plug. I don't know why the manufacturers make them so long.

Because they usually lose length over their life span from cycling and shortenning them changes the pressure they exert and can cause failure to return to battery and inconsistent barrel lock-up. I'm interested though on how yours is holding up.

RedFord150
02-28-2012, 7:52 AM
If there is a bright side to this it is that at least it went straight into the bushes rather than ricocheting off your face and then into the bushes.

My experience in the garage. Now I really do wear eye protection when cleaning my 1911.

Krill
03-04-2012, 11:28 PM
redcliff, or anyone else, can you post a pic of a 1911 using an empty case, please?

redcliff
03-06-2012, 2:56 PM
redcliff, or anyone else, can you post a pic of a 1911 using an empty case, please?

Sorry for the delay, I was out of town ;) Not a great picture, but heres one installed in my 1943 Colt 1911A1:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/ranjaz/coolpixtestshots038.jpg

Krill
03-06-2012, 4:55 PM
:notworthy: