View Full Version : IONBOND .... opinions on using it , and who in cali even applies it?

02-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Hi Guys,
I've been thinking about coatings for my competition STI Spartan. I had thought about cerakote but rumblings are that ionbond is harder and has more staying power .

Any info would be awesome !

02-23-2012, 6:28 AM
I think Todd Powers is applying ionbond. http://www.phantomfinishing.com/

I have one rifle that was done for me (not by todd) and the action runs very smooth

02-23-2012, 6:52 AM
Ionbond is a rediculously tough finish. It bonds with and hardens the metal as opposed to coating it like the spray and bake type finishes. I have the Ionbond finish on my Nighthawk Predator. I shoot it on a regular basis and run it from a Raven kydex holster. Kydex isnt the most gun finish friendly, but after weekly shooting sessions and many many holster presentations over the past 2 years, the outer finish still looks like the day I brought it home. It may not look as "pretty" as other finishes (greyish matte look), but if durability is what you want, its one of the best options. Its permanent and cant be stripped or removed so be sure its what you want.

You wont be able to have it applied in CA, but if you send it in to custom or semi-custom shop that offers it, they can send it out to be done for you.

02-23-2012, 1:30 PM
Thanks PIP!!

I'm also a huge fallout fan. Fallout 3 used to be my favorite game of all time . It has since been replaced by Skyrim. But tomato tomahhto.

Seems that springer is the way to go for coatings. How much of your nighthawk did you get coated?

For me i was thinking only my slide. I'm going to hard chrome the bottom for a look similar to the STI escort. Did you get the internal part of the slide coated as well? Internals ? Parts etc ?

I like the matte gloss finish for less reflectivity , so that doesn't bother me at all.

I'm going to be shooting this in IDPA , USPSA, 3 gun etc so i want something that is tough as nails.

Can it be reapplied after some wear occurs ?

I hate

02-23-2012, 4:43 PM
So you got my avatar reference...lol. Great franchise.

My Predator is about 95% ionbonded. Everything but the sear, firing pin, springs, trigger, and guide rod. Here is a pic.


The ionbond and hard chrome combo is a sweet look. If you check out the picture thread in the Nighthawk subforum of 1911forum, someone had that done to their predator and its stunning.

The thing about ionbond is it doesnt just "coat" it actually changes the outer layer of the metal. Due to how permanent it is, I honestly dont know if it can be "reapplied" like the spray and bakes ie Armorykote, Armortuff, Black T, Permakote, Cerakote etc. But then again, ionbond is so tough, its not likely to show much outer wear or need to be reapplied even on a pistol thats run hard. Mine shows a little wear internally only -frame rails and inside the slide. Outside its pristine. The Black T on my Professional is showing more wear with much less than what my Predator has gone through.

02-23-2012, 9:09 PM
Your nighthawk is gorgeous!!! What kind of bushing is that ? Doesn't look like a bull barrel , really neat look.

I'm almost totally set on the ionbond once i get the money and decide what parts i want to replace . I love the ed brown beavertail with memory grooves . Great look and great feel too.

Thanks for the info...i'll post pics whenever the heck i get it done.

02-23-2012, 9:28 PM
Thanks. Its a bushingless design similar to a bull barrel. The barrel is actually a cone shape with what they call a blast wafer at the muzzle. In theory its supposed to dampen recoil and add weight to the end of the barrel. The unique barrel is what makes the Predator a Predator. Wilson also offers something similar in their Tactical Elite.

The only bad thing about Ionbond is its pricey. For durability its worth it as long as everything on the pistol is exactly how you want it before having it done.

I like the look of the Ed Brown grip safety as well. Good choice. Look forward to seeing how it turns out.