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AeroEngi
02-20-2012, 3:28 PM
Ok, so recently I've been thinking about buying another pistol. I currently have a Sig P220 and a Springfield 1911 TRP. Both are obviously .45 ACP so I've decided to purchase a 9 mm to be able to practice for cheap. My first instinct was to go with a P226 since it's like 99% similar to the P220. Practicing with the P226 will essentially be practicing with the P220, minus the recoil.

Then, I read up about the SP2022. Similar to the P220 and P226 but at a fraction of the price.

Then finally, I fired a Glock 17 for the very first time yesterday. I have to admit, it was a nice shooter. Trigger felt decent and I liked the consistent pull each and every time. Everybody keeps talking about the weird grip angle but it wasn't a big deal for me.

Oh, and I've shot all three of them. I just can't make up my mind.

Now my question is, if you guys were in my situation, which one would you go for?

Thanks.

adrenaline
02-20-2012, 3:36 PM
Personally, I'd go with the one much like what I'm already used to. That's the reason for my going the other way 9mm --> .45acp.

I could have gone with another platform, but I stuck with it because I like the platform, and the similarities could only help in transitioning between guns.

Infiniti87
02-20-2012, 3:55 PM
If you liked the Glock 17 try a Springfield XD9.

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BoJackUSMC
02-20-2012, 3:59 PM
Sounds like money is not an issue since you already have 1911 TRP and Sig p220. So you should buy Sig p226 9mm:D
Cant go wrong

IrishPirate
02-20-2012, 4:03 PM
if you want 9mm to practice with for cheap, then you probably plan on carrying the .45 and if that's the case, you should go with the gun that is the most similar to your 220. I haven't held the 2022 but my brother has the 226 in .40 and it's a hell of a gun!! If the 2022 feels close enough to the 220 then it would be a good idea since you'll save some money. BUT if the 226 is a much closer fit -OR- if the 2022 is not really that close of a fit, then go 226.
2022 vs 226
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWHX96TD92XoLu8CSd9yFQuZhji7CSq x6ihwmhPeQUQd05ggcCr41rmC4PfQ
220
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnmXjSDWveyn7xlqB4bq4CMjoOayUy7 gpxL9TFVlBlwc7RYXDd4w
tough call from the pics....


I love GLOCK, but if you're trying to practice for cheaper than .45, go with SIG. If you just want to have fun shooting for cheap, then GLOCK would be a great choice.

MyGlock17
02-20-2012, 4:07 PM
If the Glock felt good go with it!...You can never go wrong with a Glock...So many parts and accessories for it...I have a Glock 17 and i love it...So many different night sights to choose from...

Gnome
02-20-2012, 4:13 PM
Sig226R or Glock 17, and call it a day.

paul0660
02-20-2012, 4:14 PM
No choices.

AeroEngi
02-20-2012, 4:52 PM
Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm leaning slightly towards the P226 but the other two are still very tempting. I may have to get the P226 now and the Glock 17 later down the road.

CCCTTC
02-20-2012, 4:53 PM
I'd go with the SIG. You already have one and you don't have to do ANYTHING to it to make it a great combat gun. Just like the 220, the 226 is good to go right out of the box. the G17, you have to dump the sights, figure out which sights you like better (and that in and of itself is a daunting task... TOOOOOOO many choices and configurations..LOL) and then get a decent guide rod, get a gloxworx trigger or similar and THEN you are almost ready to go, assuming you have replaced the mag springs with Wolffs etc etc.

The 226, pay the $$$ and you are good to go 10 days later, with no mods. G17, 10 days later and about the same in accessories and Gunsmith install prices or even more than the 226r and you are good to go.

If you can afford the 226, you shouldn't even consider cheaping out for the 2022. If actually LIKE the 2022 better, get it, but not if you like the 226r. They are not the same gun. its like gtting the SD instead of the M&P or the XD instead of the XDM or etc etc..

Just my .02. If you like the 226r (and how could you not!!!!!) just get it, run with it and enjoy your time with no hassles or issues with the cun for the next 15 -20 years and then redo the finish on it...LOL

Oceanbob
02-20-2012, 5:08 PM
Glock 17. For obvious reasons.

1. Cheaper than your other choices. Around 500 on the classifieds.
2. Ugly, yeah she's butt ugly but dead-nuts reliable.
3. You can overhaul the entire weapon in 6 minutes yourself.
4. Runs 100% with any ammo. Built for war and will run ammo from the dirt.
5. Very accurate.
6. Trigger is just fine. If not, $15 will fix it. (4.5 connector)
7. Will take normal 17 round magazines or 33 round magazines.
8. Factory sights are good; you can also get night sights. etc.
9. You can go swimming with it and she will still run 100%.
10. Will always be worth $500.
11. Bury it for 2 years in the mud. Dig it up and it will run no problem.
12. Did I mention that it was ugly...? :)

Be well
Bob
:chris:

SpunkyJivl
02-20-2012, 5:19 PM
http://www.best9mm.com/

gesundheit
02-20-2012, 5:23 PM
All of these are fine pistols. I would say that instead of asking us, you should settle on the gun that feels the best in your hands and gives consistent result to you.

P.S. Get the Glock :p

shooterdude
02-20-2012, 5:24 PM
FNP-9

smittty
02-20-2012, 5:39 PM
I voted G17. You have the P220 which is as nice as sigs get and you have the cool 1911, so I suggest mix it up and get the Glock.

Also, the Glock is cheap price wise so feel free to abuse the snot out of it.

kmlambie
02-20-2012, 5:40 PM
I'd get the P226 GERMAN w/ std fixed sights on summitgunbroker for $695

rplusplus
02-20-2012, 5:42 PM
Vive La Differance!

CZ-75... at least give it a squeeze... you may likey... Very Solid. SA or DA/SA. I prefer the SAO.

vintagearms
02-20-2012, 5:59 PM
Im a Glock guy and recommend staying with the platform your most comfortable with. In this case, it sound like the SIG would be your best bet.

Juicymeat
02-20-2012, 6:08 PM
I'd go with the SIG. You already have one and you don't have to do ANYTHING to it to make it a great combat gun. Just like the 220, the 226 is good to go right out of the box. the G17, you have to dump the sights, figure out which sights you like better (and that in and of itself is a daunting task... TOOOOOOO many choices and configurations..LOL) and then get a decent guide rod, get a gloxworx trigger or similar and THEN you are almost ready to go, assuming you have replaced the mag springs with Wolffs etc etc.


Aside from the sights, I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote in that paragraph in regards to the Glock. Hell, Sigs are known these days to have shoddy QC and reliability. Having "TOOOOOOO many choices" isn't a bad thing at all, if anything, its a huge plus and a selling point of the Glock. The Glock aftermarket is one of the largest in the gun industry, though I dont make it a habit of changing anything except sights on my Glocks and some Vickers/Tango Down parts.

You don't have to swap out the guide rod, in fact a lot of reputable trainers don't even recommend it. Why mess with the trigger either? The stock 5.5lb trigger is fine as is and works for a lot of people. If you want to change something in regards to the trigger, try a 3.5 lb connector which is about a 10 dollar part. Also, why replace the mag springs? Glock mags are known to be some of the most reliable OEM magazines on the market.

TL;DR a stock Glock is a great combat handgun, the more you shoot it, the better it gets.

MaHoTex
02-20-2012, 6:12 PM
Sig... Of the 3 choices, that is without a doubt the best of the lot. Sig is in a class all its own and should never be in the same sentence as Glock.

MyGlock17
02-20-2012, 6:23 PM
I bet if you get a Sig you'll end up with a Glock in the future lol...Get the Glock you won't regret it...Sig is a nice gun also you can't go wrong with either one...

samsigsauer
02-20-2012, 6:46 PM
I would buy the P226 in 40 or even the P229 in 40...Then get a barrel and slide swap for 9mm...

tbc
02-20-2012, 6:46 PM
I wanted to say go for the Sig p226. But don't have any rationale for it. Especially after reading OceanBob's comment. :)

Crotalus
02-20-2012, 6:51 PM
Okay, my very first gun was a Sig P220.... LOVE it and all of its features. My second was a wheel gun, and my third was a glock 19. I really enjoy the Sig and the Glock for their own characteristics. Single stack Vs. double stack.... Striker fired vs. hammer..... Polymer or metal.. The list goes on and on... Bare facts. Both guns will take alot of abuse, and both guns SHOULD eat anything you feed them... Glocks are a few hundred cheaper, but that is only if money is a factor... I honestly plan on (long term) owning many Glocks AND Sigs. My only downfall with Glock is how low the slide sits on the frame. I have to add the beaver tail so I dont get slide bite. But you really cant go wrong either way........... By the way... If money is not that big of an option.. have you ever looked at the High Powers?

guitargeak99
02-20-2012, 7:25 PM
Glocks are proven & amazing pistols, even though I don't own one.
But, you started off by saying that you wanted something that closely resembled your P220. Under that criteria it would be the P226. Many people comment that the German made Sigs are superb.
I too have a .45 as my main carry gun and also have a 9mm that I originally got for plinking. I have grown very fond of the 9mm - so much that it is also on my CCW and I would would trust my life with it .

Luckee112
02-20-2012, 7:26 PM
Having owned a Sig and Glock, I would go with the Sig P226. .40 cal and then you can swap out barrels for 9mm or .357Sig

PandaLuv
02-20-2012, 7:43 PM
wow! Apples and oranges here.

Of course the p226r :43: especially if you get lucky enough get the p226r german with folded carbon steel slide .

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/bcd72b47.jpg


Glocks have their charm, striker fired and polymer, very light,low maintenance, but has more recoil cause it's lighter, trigger isn't for everyone. Sig Pro is cool looking and cheap, but that's about it.

if you can afford p226r, get one. It's heavy, nice triggers out of the box, SA/DA, low recoil especially if it's 9mm and just one sexy son of a gun.

epcii
02-20-2012, 7:46 PM
I love SIGS, but if I were in your shoes, I'd mix it up like others have suggested and go with the G17.

PandaLuv
02-20-2012, 7:47 PM
Glock 17. For obvious reasons.

1. Cheaper than your other choices. Around 500 on the classifieds.
2. Ugly, yeah she's butt ugly but dead-nuts reliable.
3. You can overhaul the entire weapon in 6 minutes yourself.
4. Runs 100% with any ammo. Built for war and will run ammo from the dirt.
5. Very accurate.
6. Trigger is just fine. If not, $15 will fix it. (4.5 connector)
7. Will take normal 17 round magazines or 33 round magazines.
8. Factory sights are good; you can also get night sights. etc.
9. You can go swimming with it and she will still run 100%.
10. Will always be worth $500.
11. Bury it for 2 years in the mud. Dig it up and it will run no problem.
12. Did I mention that it was ugly...? :)

Be well
Bob
:chris:

yep :hide: they do have their space age look though, kinda like FS2000, they dont look they should exist in our time.


Glocks are cool, but i just can't love them, maybe later I will buy one again.

brianm767
02-20-2012, 8:01 PM
To me that's like a Lexus (P226)compared too a Ford and a Chevy

Vanguard
02-20-2012, 10:48 PM
I have a P226.....and I voted for the Glock. My entire view of handguns changed when I bought my first Glock. I will probably never buy another brand of handgun again.....unless it's a 1911.

JNunez23
02-20-2012, 11:04 PM
From the 3, the Sig 226. No brainer. Like other's stated, the 2022 doesn't fit my hands.
(sorry, read it too fast)

Blackhawk556
02-20-2012, 11:14 PM
Looking at sigs, it seems like they have a really high bore axis. Is that the case?

AeroEngi
02-20-2012, 11:18 PM
Looking at sigs, it seems like they have a really high bore axis. Is that the case?

It's not a problem for me. The P220 was my first handgun and I'm very used to how it handles and shoots.

Btw, thank you to everyone for the great advice! That's why I love calguns.

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Vanguard
02-21-2012, 9:14 AM
From the 3, the Sig. No brainer.

Fail.

There are two sigs in his choices.

134k
02-21-2012, 10:01 AM
i lusted after my p266r, but want to buy a glock as a second gun; to bash around and not worry about it so much.

SJgunguy24
02-21-2012, 10:18 AM
CZ SP01 tactical, euro manufactured sig quality at 2/3 the price. FNX9 feels damn close to a sig at 1/2 the cost.
QC on the new sigs has been spotty, at least with a Glock your getting a known quantity, upgrades are cheap and pleniful and user servicable.

SJgunguy24
02-21-2012, 10:20 AM
Looking at sigs, it seems like they have a really high bore axis. Is that the case?

Yes it does, totally opposite of the CZ75/ SP01 series of handguns.

Lead Waster
02-21-2012, 10:38 AM
Every thing else being equal...buy the one that puts more holes in the bullseye.

AeroEngi
02-21-2012, 11:15 AM
Are the P226 Mk 25 frames made in Germany?

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ZX-10R
02-21-2012, 6:33 PM
M&P 9 or FNP-9.

BajaJames83
02-21-2012, 6:41 PM
My vote goes for M&P, the only drawback is trigger which is a easy fix, or can get used to it

jeep7081
02-21-2012, 6:42 PM
FNP-9 or XD9

POINTMANDDT
02-21-2012, 6:54 PM
I've own a sig 226 and although they are great shooters the glock 17 is the finest 9mm pistol I have ever owned. I would recommend a trigger job on the glock. I put a ghost rocket trigger in mine along with some other mods and it is a tack driver. But as always go with what feels best in your hand and shoot best with.

NeenachGuy
02-21-2012, 6:57 PM
If it were me, I'd get the Glock 17. In fact, I'm going into town to buy a Glock 17 after I get my next paycheck.

stix213
02-21-2012, 7:01 PM
I'd go with the Glock so you will have some variety.

PandaLuv
02-21-2012, 7:03 PM
Are the P226 Mk 25 frames made in Germany?

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http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h349/wackendogs/2012_01240045.jpg
says "DE" on it, so yep.

AeroEngi
02-21-2012, 7:22 PM
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h349/wackendogs/2012_01240045.jpg
says "DE" on it, so yep.

Oh man, I'd love to get one of those but they're off list and won't be on for like 4 to 5 years. I also don't wanna go through the hassle of SSE.

My P220R has a German made frame so it would be nice to have the same with the P226 if I decide to get it.

PandaLuv
02-21-2012, 8:00 PM
Oh man, I'd love to get one of those but they're off list and won't be on for like 4 to 5 years. I also don't wanna go through the hassle of SSE.

My P220R has a German made frame so it would be nice to have the same with the P226 if I decide to get it.



well, I heard that some standard p226 Navy frames made in deutchland.


or you can get what I have, p226r German
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/625bf1b4.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/26cb8092.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/bcd72b47.jpg

Everything is made in Germany, trippled marked, with folded carbon steel slide. I love it, and it's on the roster. You can find one online for a decent price.

MrExel17
02-21-2012, 8:10 PM
OP I voted for a Glock 17, I too is in the market to acquire one just waiting for some cash. I have a 226R and have shot 2022 love my Sigs. But to me and In my hands the Glock and the CZ-Sp01 Tactical feels great just has if you were holding a 1911. Either way you can not go wrong with your choices. But I say G17 or CZ-Sp01, cheers!

PandaLuv
02-21-2012, 8:28 PM
OP I voted for a Glock 17, I too is in the market to acquire one just waiting for some cash. I have a 226R and have shot 2022 love my Sigs. But to me and In my hands the Glock and the CZ-Sp01 Tactical feels great just has if you were holding a 1911. Either way you can not go wrong with your choices. But I say G17 or CZ-Sp01, cheers!

If I were op, I would get that one, but the tactical version only.

vintagearms
02-21-2012, 8:39 PM
Oh man, I'd love to get one of those but they're off list and won't be on for like 4 to 5 years. I also don't wanna go through the hassle of SSE.

.

I thought that way too about SSE. Just found a good dealer (Islandview Enterprises) and they made it just as quick as a regular sale.

AeroEngi
02-21-2012, 8:52 PM
well, I heard that some standard p226 Navy frames made in deutchland.


or you can get what I have, p226r German
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/625bf1b4.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/26cb8092.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/thatkoreannigga/bcd72b47.jpg

Everything is made in Germany, trippled marked, with folded carbon steel slide. I love it, and it's on the roster. You can find one online for a decent price.

How much more does this cost over the standard P226r?

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PandaLuv
02-21-2012, 9:02 PM
How much more does this cost over the standard P226r?

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MSRP is about the same as a standard US Made SS slide p226. I got mine online for $800 and after the fees, it was a little over $900.


I think that p226r is better, that carbon steel is light and the finish is better. On top of that, the guide rod is made out of steel. Plus comes standard with night sights.

Moto
02-21-2012, 9:12 PM
Glock 17. For obvious reasons.

1. Cheaper than your other choices. Around 500 on the classifieds.
2. Ugly, yeah she's butt ugly but dead-nuts reliable.
3. You can overhaul the entire weapon in 6 minutes yourself.
4. Runs 100% with any ammo. Built for war and will run ammo from the dirt.
5. Very accurate.
6. Trigger is just fine. If not, $15 will fix it. (4.5 connector)
7. Will take normal 17 round magazines or 33 round magazines.
8. Factory sights are good; you can also get night sights. etc.
9. You can go swimming with it and she will still run 100%.
10. Will always be worth $500.
11. Bury it for 2 years in the mud. Dig it up and it will run no problem.
12. Did I mention that it was ugly...? :)

Be well
Bob
:chris:

You know what, I think the glocks are great looking, especially the compact sized ones! Everything on it is proportionate. Yeah the older full sized ones look a little bit odd on the side profile. But that's it. Glocks = Beautiful!

Honestly , I think the sigs are ugly. If you like them, then more power to you, but all the sigs I rented and shot I did not dig.

PandaLuv
02-21-2012, 9:23 PM
You know what, I think the glocks are great looking, especially the compact sized ones! Everything on it is proportionate. Yeah the older full sized ones look a little bit odd on the side profile. But that's it. Glocks = Beautiful!

Honestly , I think the sigs are ugly. If you like them, then more power to you, but all the sigs I rented and shot I did not dig.

Lol

Moto
02-21-2012, 9:25 PM
Lol

Sorry sweetheart, your overpriced and overrated sig is ugly to me.

PandaLuv
02-21-2012, 9:29 PM
Sorry sweetheart, your overpriced and overrated sig is ugly to me.

Lolx2

Hey, they are overpriced and overrated to you maybe, but I don't mind it.


PS: so much for Glock perfection with gen4.

icenix
02-21-2012, 9:30 PM
XD9 - yep, fanboy, but it is a sweet gun too.

den888
02-21-2012, 9:32 PM
G17

AeroEngi
02-21-2012, 9:59 PM
You know what, I think the glocks are great looking, especially the compact sized ones! Everything on it is proportionate. Yeah the older full sized ones look a little bit odd on the side profile. But that's it. Glocks = Beautiful!

Honestly , I think the sigs are ugly. If you like them, then more power to you, but all the sigs I rented and shot I did not dig.

I don't think Glocks are ugly, they've actually grown on me but I love my Sigs man.

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MrExel17
02-21-2012, 10:08 PM
If I were op, I would get that one, but the tactical version only.

PandaLuv,

Good catch! OP it you decide to get the CZ aside it saying "Tactical" on the slide it will also have a decocker the regular Sp01 just has a safety.

tbc
02-21-2012, 10:28 PM
I thought i was the only one. Yes, Sigs are ugly. I love to shoot them though.

t0kie
02-21-2012, 10:48 PM
I think since you already familiar with the Sig, then stay with the same by going with the 226 like others have said.

TheBladeRunner
02-21-2012, 11:30 PM
well, I heard that some standard p226 Navy frames made in deutchland.

+1 I've got an old school P226 Navy, and I can confirm that the frame is made in Germany. Although I had no idea they were constructed any differently.

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 12:18 AM
Do you guys think I can find a standard P226R with a German frame like my P220R?

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Vampyredark
02-22-2012, 12:29 AM
Ruger SR9 or P95.

Or dont listen to anyone here and pick one that feels right to you.

corporalbrig
02-22-2012, 8:41 AM
I have both the Sig 226 and Glock 17? Get both!

PandaLuv
02-22-2012, 8:52 AM
Do you guys think I can find a standard P226R with a German frame like my P220R?

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Not brand new, as far as all new standard p226r are made in Exeter. TBH, just like Bladerunner said, there isn't much difference in the frames. My sig 1911 is made in America, it works just fine. I just find my p226r kinda unique because where and how it was made, that's about it. I don't think there is much difference in durability. I personally haven't heard that many problems with p226, did however saw/heard/experienced issues with sig pro and Glock17.

But if you do decide to not get a p226, I would probably get a used sig pro and new Glock 17, and both of them would be the same price as p226.

POINTMANDDT
02-22-2012, 10:17 AM
I think the Glock 17 is the best 9mm pistol ever made, go with the GLOCK 17.


Fixed that for you:p

t0kie
02-22-2012, 11:55 AM
Don't listen to him ^^^, because he's too biased when it comes to Glock :D

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 1:21 PM
Don't listen to him ^^^, because he's too biased when it comes to Glock :D

I can totally tell but I don't blame him, they're great guns! But like I said, ugly or not, I love my Sigs. I guess I'm just used to them. I'm even pretty decent with the first DA shot.

kaligaran
02-22-2012, 1:29 PM
I've got an SP2022 that I purchased back in October. I have nothing but praise for this gun. I initially went to a show to purchase a glock and then stumbled upon this at a vendor booth (it was on sale). The one thing I noticed about the 2022 has a metal hammer (some of the other sigs I looked at had some plastic feeling components that just felt cheap to me).

I have put about 3k rounds through it so far with nothing but praise for it. At the price point, it's hard to beat. I like the rail on the front too, just feels good. The 2022 also comes with an extra grip that you can change out. I think the slim one is what is installed on it from the factory.

If this is just a practice gun, definitly go for reliable and a good price point. The sig is a win win there imo.

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 2:36 PM
I've got an SP2022 that I purchased back in October. I have nothing but praise for this gun. I initially went to a show to purchase a glock and then stumbled upon this at a vendor booth (it was on sale). The one thing I noticed about the 2022 has a metal hammer (some of the other sigs I looked at had some plastic feeling components that just felt cheap to me).

I have put about 3k rounds through it so far with nothing but praise for it. At the price point, it's hard to beat. I like the rail on the front too, just feels good. The 2022 also comes with an extra grip that you can change out. I think the slim one is what is installed on it from the factory.

If this is just a practice gun, definitly go for reliable and a good price point. The sig is a win win there imo.

That's why I put the SP2022 and Glock 17 in my list.

Indiscriminate Killer
02-22-2012, 2:39 PM
Glock 17. For obvious reasons.

1. Cheaper than your other choices. Around 500 on the classifieds.
2. Ugly, yeah she's butt ugly but dead-nuts reliable.
3. You can overhaul the entire weapon in 6 minutes yourself.
4. Runs 100% with any ammo. Built for war and will run ammo from the dirt.
5. Very accurate.
6. Trigger is just fine. If not, $15 will fix it. (4.5 connector)
7. Will take normal 17 round magazines or 33 round magazines.
8. Factory sights are good; you can also get night sights. etc.
9. You can go swimming with it and she will still run 100%.
10. Will always be worth $500.
11. Bury it for 2 years in the mud. Dig it up and it will run no problem.
12. Did I mention that it was ugly...? :)

Be well
Bob
:chris: Right, well... I just cant get on board with the whole the reliability of glocks out weighing their buttuglyness? Not knocking the glock but the same things can be said about the reliability of the 226 and the thing is dead sexy. Btw I agree that you can look over the sp2022, it is in a different class imo. Speaking of sexy have you considered looking at the Cz75?:)

john.t.singh
02-22-2012, 3:45 PM
I would avoid the p2022, my buddy got it, sold it right away.

I love my Glock 17 and if you look at competition shooting, a lot of people use the Glock 17 or Glock 34 for a reason...

But the Sig 226 is a completely different beast and is very nice. For the price difference you definitely do get more features.

POLICESTATE
02-22-2012, 3:50 PM
Sticking within the options on the poll I voted Sig P226 (assuming cost isn't that much of a factor), otherwise I'd get the Glock. Glock 19 over the 17 would be my preference.

Wouldn't get the Sig 2022, I've heard their new lines are just not that good anymore.

Out of poll: 1911 chambered for 9mm such as a Springfield or a RIA

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 5:15 PM
I would avoid the p2022, my buddy got it, sold it right away.

I love my Glock 17 and if you look at competition shooting, a lot of people use the Glock 17 or Glock 34 for a reason...

But the Sig 226 is a completely different beast and is very nice. For the price difference you definitely do get more features.

Why did your buddy sell his SP2022 right away? Was it having problems?

SJgunguy24
02-22-2012, 5:41 PM
Lolx2

Hey, they are overpriced and overrated to you maybe, but I don't mind it.


PS: so much for Glock perfection with gen4.

You never took me up on my offer to shoot my SP01, if you did you'd drop that sig like a bad habit. Sigs are nice but i've never shot any handgun as smooth as my CZ sp01tactical. The P02 is close but the full length rail and steel frame of the sp01 kills whats left of the little recoil there is.

PandaLuv
02-22-2012, 5:48 PM
You never took me up on my offer to shoot my SP01, if you did you'd drop that sig like a bad habit. Sigs are nice but i've never shot any handgun as smooth as my CZ sp01tactical. The P02 is close but the full length rail and steel frame of the sp01 kills whats left of the little recoil there is.

You know that I would, but sp-01 tactical is back ordered, if there is gonna be one for sale at VA, I will buy one in a heart beat.


I gotta admit though, that grip is just so awesome. I think it's even more comfortable than 1911.

KeithG
02-22-2012, 5:51 PM
I believe all modern P226 frames are stamped DE.

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PandaLuv
02-22-2012, 5:54 PM
I believe all modern P226 frames are stamped DE.

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really?



wow, I feel kinda dumb.

MyGlock17
02-22-2012, 6:08 PM
Looks like Glock 17 wins on the poll results!...But seriously you can't go wrong with either Sig 226 or Glock 17...You'll probably end up with both in the future....I have a G17 but i still want Sig 229R, XD and FNP...But for the price of the Sig 226 you can get a G17 with 2000 rounds of ammo...But hey your choice!

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 6:26 PM
Looks like Glock 17 wins on the poll results!...But seriously you can't go wrong with either Sig 226 or Glock 17...You'll probably end up with both in the future....I have a G17 but i still want Sig 229R, XD and FNP...But for the price of the Sig 226 you can get a G17 with 2000 rounds of ammo...But hey your choice!

You're absolutely correct! Even if I pick up the P226 now, I'll probably end up buying the Glock 17 before the end of the year :D

nrvnqsrxk
02-22-2012, 6:41 PM
You seriously have a difficult choice on your hands. Here are two ways of doing it.

The first method is quite expensive. I call it the Baller's Method of Choosing Guns. You buy all guns that you're torn between buying (3 in your case), and keep them in your safe. The one that gets taken to the range the most to shoot your stock of 9mm is the one that you get to keep. You sell the other two to your friends and go shooting or take classes with them (Multiplayer is always more fun. Especially with women involved). This is the easy route, but you tend to lose money from selling used guns, unless you're a hustler.

I call the second method Mental Single Player. You're gonna engage your mental faculties on this one. Pretend that you have all three guns in your safe already, and you're taking a class with Travis Haley and Chris Costa tomorrow morning. You already know you're already going to be hauling your rifle, shotgun, cases of ammo, and a lot of gear. You don't want to be hauling around extra stuff (Well, realistically you know 2 is better than one in case your handgun undergoes catastrophic failure that renders it unusable. But just play along) You also know that you're gonna need one pistol strapped to your waist all day, and its one that points most naturally for you, and you can shoot quickly with, with reasonable accuracy. Which one of these handguns fit this criteria for you? If you don't know, hit up a range with aforementioned guns and shoot 100 rounds through each. At the very least, you can figure out which one you perform most consistently with.

MyGlock17
02-22-2012, 6:44 PM
You're absolutely correct! Even if I pick up the P226 now, I'll probably end up buying the Glock 17 before the end of the year :D

Yup lol...Why you think i picked the Glock instead of the Sig..I was in the same boat you were in confused on what to get...But after doing my research Glock came up on top for me...1st was the price 2nd was the amount of accessories you can get and 3rd i can get the Glock with a TLR 3 light with TruGlo sights for the same price as a stock Sig with no night sights...Having a Glock changed my mind on handguns...Even though the price is cheap for a Glock you would think it's cheap gun but really it's not...Glocks has been proven with time as well as the Sig...But when it comes to accessories nothing compares to the Glock....Just go to Glockmeister.com and see for yourself...They have everything you need for your Glock!...But if you choose a Sig did you make the wrong choice? No!...Sigs are awesome guns especially the 229 and 226...I'll probably end up getting one later but as of right now im happy with my Glock 17....Anyways happy shopping!

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 6:54 PM
You seriously have a difficult choice on your hands. Here are two ways of doing it.

The first method is quite expensive. I call it the Baller's Method of Choosing Guns. You buy all guns that you're torn between buying (3 in your case), and keep them in your safe. The one that gets taken to the range the most to shoot your stock of 9mm is the one that you get to keep. You sell the other two to your friends and go shooting or take classes with them (Multiplayer is always more fun. Especially with women involved). This is the easy route, but you tend to lose money from selling used guns, unless you're a hustler.

I call the second method Mental Single Player. You're gonna engage your mental faculties on this one. Pretend that you have all three guns in your safe already, and you're taking a class with Travis Haley and Chris Costa tomorrow morning. You already know you're already going to be hauling your rifle, shotgun, cases of ammo, and a lot of gear. You don't want to be hauling around extra stuff (Well, realistically you know 2 is better than one in case your handgun undergoes catastrophic failure that renders it unusable. But just play along) You also know that you're gonna need one pistol strapped to your waist all day, and its one that points most naturally for you, and you can shoot quickly with, with reasonable accuracy. Which one of these handguns fit this criteria for you? If you don't know, hit up a range with aforementioned guns and shoot 100 rounds through each. At the very least, you can figure out which one you perform most consistently with.

Great advice and thank you! I love the names you give to the different buying methods.

Ok, here's the thing. The scenario you brought up got me thinking. I shoot very naturally with the Sigs, especially the P226. I own a P220 and I can almost immediately line up the sights the second I'm aiming down the sights. I would assume carrying the Glock 17 or SP2022 would be easier because of the lighter weight.

I actually just realized something today. When I was at the range last Sunday shooting the Glock 17, every time I began shooting a fresh mag, I noticed that I would always hold the gun to the point where the front sight was above the rear sights (not sure if that makes sense) and not lined up like I do with my Sigs. I would always have to adjust and it kinda felt unnatural to me. It hit me today that it must've been the grip angle. I'm used to more of a vertical grip angle like the 1911 or Sigs. At first I thought the grip angle on the Glocks wasn't a big deal until I realized this today.

I don't mean to talk down on Glocks or anything; they're great firearms and I did pretty good with it once I adjusted for the grip angle.

tbc
02-22-2012, 7:05 PM
^ This is why I don't shoot Glocks and shoot almost everything else.

MyGlock17
02-22-2012, 7:27 PM
I don't mean to talk down on Glocks or anything; they're great firearms and I did pretty good with it once I adjusted for the grip angle.[/QUOTE]

There is a reason why Glock made the angle like that for the grip...It naturally gives you the angle so it reduces muzzle flip...You know like with your off hand you have your offhand somewhat at a angle downward...

gorenut
02-22-2012, 7:28 PM
I've owned all the mentioned guns (G34, but same frame as G17) and from my experience my choices would be:
1. G17
2. SP2022
3. P226
in that order of recommendation.

I still own the G34 and the only reason why I don't own the SP2022 anymore is because I've done away with all my DA/SA guns. Selling all my P226s were a personal choice in that I didn't think their cost was really holding up value to me for my uses/needs. All great guns though.

One thing though.. even when I didn't shoot Glocks, I always admired their simplistic design. When I purchased my first P226.. I thought P-Series Sigs were the best looking guns out there. Now when I see them.. I see a chunky, top-heavy gun that looks really outdated.. I'm not a huge fan of where all the controls are placed. Strangely enough, with their big and blocky controls, they almost look like a predecessor of the 1911 to me. Then again, the 1911 has a more timeless design which few guns if any can compare. However, holding a Sig feels like a handful of quality and you can see where they might have over-engineered certain aspects of the gun.

tbc
02-22-2012, 7:39 PM
I don't mean to talk down on Glocks or anything; they're great firearms and I did pretty good with it once I adjusted for the grip angle.

There is a reason why Glock made the angle like that for the grip...It naturally gives you the angle so it reduces muzzle flip...You know like with your off hand you have your offhand somewhat at a angle downward...

I think you are right. This is my problem though. I tend to develop strong muscle memories way back when I played musical instrument. It was difficult for me to adjust my grip when changing from Sigs and others to Glocks in the range. Since I like varieties and would like be proficient with them, I had to give up all Glocks.

mossy
02-22-2012, 7:43 PM
glock 17 or 19.

Beyond
02-22-2012, 7:46 PM
I'm in the same boat and deciding between those same 3 models for my next 9mm. After shooting them I like the feel of the P226 but am now choosing between the G17 and 2022 because of their more attractive price points. I'm pretty much at a fork in the road now.

MyGlock17
02-22-2012, 7:46 PM
I think you are right. This is my problem though. I tend to develop strong muscle memories way back when I played musical instrument. It was difficult for me to adjust my grip when changing from Sigs and others to Glocks in the range. Since I like varieties and would like be proficient with them, I had to give up all Glocks.

Go with what you shoot best or what feels the best...But yes that is the reason why they made the angle like that on the glock...

MyGlock17
02-22-2012, 7:49 PM
glock 17 or 19.

i wanted the 19 at 1st until i held the 17 in my hand..it had more balance for me...Im only 5'5 with normal size hands so it fit perfect...The 19 on the other hand didn't feel as nice for me...i say go with what fits best in your hand...like i said i wanted the 19 at 1st because of people raving about it until i put the 17 in my hand...

MyGlock17
02-22-2012, 7:51 PM
I'm in the same boat and deciding between those same 3 models for my next 9mm. After shooting them I like the feel of the P226 but am now choosing between the G17 and 2022 because of their more attractive price points. I'm pretty much at a fork in the road now.

i would lean more towards the G17 or 226 over the 2022..2022 doesn't have a history in reliablity like the G17 or the 226 does...

Sturnovik
02-22-2012, 7:57 PM
i would lean more towards the G17 or 226 over the 2022..2022 doesn't have a history in reliablity like the G17 or the 226 does...

Your thinking of the P2009 and they had quite a few bugs until it was worked out. The 2022 is the "re-done" version so to speak. That said the 2022 has been adopted by some agencies and a huge contract, in excess of like 200,000 for the French police or national police or something along those lines. They found it satisfactory. I've shot thousand and thousands of rounds through them and had no issues. That said the SP2009 is a different story. I've had very little experience with the 2340 but it was more or less very reliable too.

That said though, its only been out for so long, so it doesn't have the track record that the P226 or other Sigs but those things are selling like hotcakes and everywhere, not just CA.

mjmagee67
02-22-2012, 8:03 PM
I have bought Glocks I've bought Sigs. Shot the pooh out of both and now my last Glock is for sale and I am working on getting another Sig. Glocks are fine I just like the way Sigs shoot better. Sigs flat feel better to my and shoot better. Sorry Glock fanboys Glock Perfection maybe for some but not all.

Shoot both (err all 3) buy the one that you like better. I would not rule out CZ either, some of then feel good.

Sunday
02-22-2012, 8:25 PM
how about buying a reloading setup to lower your shooting costs???

nrvnqsrxk
02-22-2012, 8:34 PM
While grip angle with the Glock is an issue for 1911 fans, with enough training it can be overcome. It's just a matter of whether you're willing to put in the time to learn the system. Most people aren't, which is why this stupid argument appears all the time.

And keep in mind that price isn't an issue when considering firearms. It's a personal, not rational decision. Does it mean you might have to wait another month before you can save enough money for the gun that you want? You're going to be using it for years. Besides, you're going to spend a LOT more money in ammo and training. I think when I was first learning about 1911's, there was this one guy who spent $20,000 buying .45 ammo. The $1,500 spent buying the Les Baer TRS pales in comparison. They are really expensive to feed.

And regarding reloading, we all know that you'll be spending the same amount of money in ammo. You'll just end up with more bullets to shoot with ;)

AeroEngi
02-22-2012, 10:31 PM
how about buying a reloading setup to lower your shooting costs???

That's great advice and I would love to start reloading but unfortunately I don't think I would have the time at the moment. I barely get a chance to go out to the range over the weekend to practice. Plus, I need a gun the wife can shoot cuz all my pistols are in .45.

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gunafficionado
02-23-2012, 6:40 AM
G17 and use the $$ you saved for ammo.

POINTMANDDT
02-23-2012, 7:41 AM
Don't listen to him ^^^, because he's too biased when it comes to Glock :D


Only because I can out shoot most $1000+ pistols with my ugly Glock lol You know this to be true :p

To the OP if you decide to go with the Glock, I recommend the following mods:

3 lb rocket ghost trigger with the short trigger reset option
.50 cent trigger job, basically polish some of the internals. I went as far as polish my striker and plunger, then I add gun juice to the polished parts.
DPM recoil spring, this makes a huge difference with rapid fire.
Extended slide release
Tru glow fiber/night sights
talon grips

I also have my competition kit which is a very light striker spring attached to a titanium striker/plunger. This brings the trigger pull down to a very crisp from 3 lb- 2.5 lb to a 1.5 to 1 lb trigger pull. The down side to this extremely light trigger is that the safety on the trigger does not reset on it's own, this is why I only use it for competition.

AeroEngi
02-23-2012, 11:13 AM
i would lean more towards the G17 or 226 over the 2022..2022 doesn't have a history in reliablity like the G17 or the 226 does...

Yes, the SP2022 does not have a very long history but it's been a very solid firearm for the amount of time that it's been here. I had no complaints about the one that I shot. It fed my friends crappy reloads and whatever factory loads we threw at it.

himurax13
02-23-2012, 2:01 PM
If I were you I would ge a Sig P226R and a Springfield Loaded 9mm 1911. That way you have a 9mm version of each of your .45's. An old Sig P228 would be nice as well ;).

AeroEngi
02-23-2012, 2:27 PM
If I were you I would ge a Sig P226R and a Springfield Loaded 9mm 1911. That way you have a 9mm version of each of your .45's. An old Sig P228 would be nice as well ;).

I would love to get both but I only have budget for one of them. My HD gun is my P220 so that's why I would go with the P226 over the SA 1911 Loaded in 9 mm.

AeroEngi
02-24-2012, 7:17 PM
Ok guys, I'm probably gonna go put a deposit for the P226r tomorrow but the only thing is I just found out that the P229 Enhanced Elite (EE) is on the roster. Now I know all it is is a bunch of bells and whistles that won't increase performance except for the SRT. I can buy the SRT from midway for like $50 and install it myself. I know I wanted my next purchase to be as similar to my P220 as possible but the P229 EE is so damn tempting!

Please convince me not to get the P229 EE. Or convince me...

KeithG
02-24-2012, 7:23 PM
A Short Trigger may be $50, but a Short Reset Trigger is something different...and way cooler.

Buy it and be happy.

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AeroEngi
02-24-2012, 7:24 PM
A Short Trigger may be $50, but a Short Reset Trigger is something different...and way cooler.

Buy it and be happy.

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You can buy the SRT (Short Reset Trigger) from Midway for $50 and install it yourself if you know your way around Sigs.

KeithG
02-24-2012, 7:34 PM
BTW have you seen the SIGs offered here? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=3618115

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mr00jimbo
02-24-2012, 8:06 PM
I have both the P226 and the Glock 17. Actually, I have two of each brand handgun.
My Glocks, I don't make a big deal of cleaning them. With the Sigs, I buy grease in a syringe and lubricate the slide rails lovingly.
When people see my Glocks, they ask me why the hell I didn't get an M&P, or XD, or if I am worried it's going to explode.
With my Sigs, they drool and ask to shoot them, then reluctantly give them back.

Sigs have a better reputation among aficionados, though Glocks have a strong following among the gun sadists. They love to shovel dirt onto them, plunge them into muck, dirt, under water, and brag that they will still work, at least better than a lot of other guns.

But this is strange to me...I shoot Glocks a LOT better than I shoot my Sigs. Why? I don't know. People always ***** that they hate the grip angle of Glocks, but I like them quite a bit.

One thing I will say about the Glock 17 over a P226 9mm is, you will probably never experience this, but a Glock 17 will probably last through a lot more shooting than a P226. I can see a P226 frame lasting 60k or so rounds, up to 100, but the 17 to go forever. But that's several thousand dollars worth of ammo.

I'm all over the place! :D

PandaLuv
02-24-2012, 8:15 PM
Ok guys, I'm probably gonna go put a deposit for the P226r tomorrow but the only thing is I just found out that the P229 Enhanced Elite (EE) is on the roster. Now I know all it is is a bunch of bells and whistles that won't increase performance except for the SRT. I can buy the SRT from midway for like $50 and install it myself. I know I wanted my next purchase to be as similar to my P220 as possible but the P229 EE is so damn tempting!

Please convince me not to get the P229 EE. Or convince me...

Meh, beaver tail, srt and the thing grips might approve your accuracy, but standard p226 is fine and looks better, imho

hefedehefe
02-24-2012, 8:21 PM
Is this a joke? Sig 226 duh

Mojaveman
02-24-2012, 8:41 PM
Count me in the Glock crowd. Why not try one if you've never had one? Bought one years ago when they first came out and later sold it. Am planning on getting another one. They are cheaper than the others and many after market modification parts are available. They are kind of like the AK of handguns.

hefedehefe
02-24-2012, 8:54 PM
I think Glock and Sig can be considered "AK's" of hand guns

PandaLuv
02-24-2012, 9:00 PM
I think Glock and Sig can be considered "AK's" of hand guns

Lol you better run and :hide:

Glock fanboys are cometh!

AeroEngi
02-24-2012, 9:25 PM
Meh, beaver tail, srt and the thing grips might approve your accuracy, but standard p226 is fine and looks better, imho

Ya plus I can get the SRT and install it myself eventually and I think the newer P226's come with the E2 grips now.

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AeroEngi
02-25-2012, 5:43 PM
Ok guys, just an update. I just went and put a deposit on the standard P226R with night sights. And the wait begins...

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Sturnovik
02-25-2012, 5:46 PM
Ok guys, just an update. I just went and put a deposit on the standard P226R with night sights. And the wait begins...

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You chose the cadillac of DA/SA pistols.....once again good choice.

PandaLuv
02-25-2012, 6:35 PM
You chose the cadillac of DA/SA pistols.....once again good choice.

+1

Congrats ! Keep your eyes peeled, I've seen Glock 17 and sig pro for under $450 multiple times.

AeroEngi
02-25-2012, 6:55 PM
You chose the cadillac of DA/SA pistols.....once again good choice.

+1

Congrats ! Keep your eyes peeled, I've seen Glock 17 and sig pro for under $450 multiple times.

Thanks guys! Can't wait to get it. They didn't have it in stock so they had to order it. Should be in by Friday so my ten days is gonna start then.

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Sturnovik
02-25-2012, 11:03 PM
+1

Congrats ! Keep your eyes peeled, I've seen Glock 17 and sig pro for under $450 multiple times.

Yea I am only looking for RTF2 models for a G17 or a Sig Pro but yea my new AR has been taking up all my time lately.

AeroEngi
02-26-2012, 2:06 AM
Yea I am only looking for RTF2 models for a G17 or a Sig Pro but yea my new AR has been taking up all my time lately.

What kinda AR did you build or buy?

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Sturnovik
02-26-2012, 9:24 AM
What kinda AR did you build or buy?

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Spikes lower, Bushmaster poly upper with forward assist and shell deflector. I was going to get a Smith but it cost same amount and didnt have those other features, I leaned toward the Spike/Bushmaster. Pre assembled and with a BB, cant complain and I love the feel. Even came with a really high quality rail and a few pmags.

That said yea I'm kinda down on pistols, a G17 RTF2, XD40 or Sig pro are really all I'm investing in. CZ's are to hard to find or atleast in the models I want.

PandaLuv
02-26-2012, 10:21 AM
Spikes lower, Bushmaster poly upper with forward assist and shell deflector. I was going to get a Smith but it cost same amount and didnt have those other features, I leaned toward the Spike/Bushmaster. Pre assembled and with a BB, cant complain and I love the feel. Even came with a really high quality rail and a few pmags.

That said yea I'm kinda down on pistols, a G17 RTF2, XD40 or Sig pro are really all I'm investing in. CZ's are to hard to find or atleast in the models I want.

man, since I got my p226 in 9mm and my 1911, I have no desire to shoot my sig pro at all anymore. Think I might sell it once CZ become more available.

mj1
02-26-2012, 10:34 AM
Almost any .45 should do fine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/8ae8deaa.jpg

AeroEngi
02-26-2012, 1:43 PM
Spikes lower, Bushmaster poly upper with forward assist and shell deflector. I was going to get a Smith but it cost same amount and didnt have those other features, I leaned toward the Spike/Bushmaster. Pre assembled and with a BB, cant complain and I love the feel. Even came with a really high quality rail and a few pmags.

That said yea I'm kinda down on pistols, a G17 RTF2, XD40 or Sig pro are really all I'm investing in. CZ's are to hard to find or atleast in the models I want.

Nice! Congrats on the AR!

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AeroEngi
02-26-2012, 3:36 PM
One more question guys. Is the SRT really worth it? I was thinking about ordering it for both of my Sigs.

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KeithG
02-26-2012, 3:57 PM
AeroEngi, just an observation, but I have yet to hear/read from a SRT owner any suggestion that they would rather have the standard trigger and the money. It is on my upgrade list, along with the Hogue Piranha G10 grips.

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AeroEngi
02-26-2012, 4:48 PM
AeroEngi, just an observation, but I have yet to hear/read from a SRT owner any suggestion that they would rather have the standard trigger and the money. It is on my upgrade list, along with the Hogue Piranha G10 grips.

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Cool man, thanks for the advice. When you get the SRT, are you gonna do it yourself or send it out to Sig?

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Sturnovik
02-26-2012, 5:08 PM
Nice! Congrats on the AR!

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thanks budd, let me know if your in norcal some time, we can hit the range.

AeroEngi
02-26-2012, 5:18 PM
thanks budd, let me know if your in norcal some time, we can hit the range.

Will do man. I have some family up there so I come there once in a while.

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KeithG
02-26-2012, 5:35 PM
When you get the SRT, are you gonna do it yourself or send it out to Sig?Sounds to me like a job for a highly trained and certified gunsmith. Why throw away a perfectly good lifetime warranty?

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Sturnovik
02-26-2012, 5:49 PM
Cool man, thanks for the advice. When you get the SRT, are you gonna do it yourself or send it out to Sig?

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I recommend Sig. Keep your warranty, and they will have it back to you even faster than Grayguns (they aren't bad but keep your warranty).

Will do man. I have some family up there so I come there once in a while.

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Right on.

AeroEngi
02-26-2012, 5:49 PM
Sounds to me like a job for a highly trained and certified gunsmith. Why throw away a perfectly good lifetime warranty?

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Oh, I wasn't aware that doing it yourself would void the warranty.

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Sturnovik
02-27-2012, 9:43 AM
Oh, I wasn't aware that doing it yourself would void the warranty.

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Yup it does, so be careful. I'm not trying to discourage people to not learn how to gunsmith but its not worth it on a expensive piece, that and you'll probally get a deal if you do more than one thing on Sigs CS anyways.

KeithG
02-27-2012, 10:45 AM
What's disappointing to me is that sending a handloaded/reloaded round down the pipe likewise voids the warranty. I don't know how they'd divine that event, but the threat has been effective on me.

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grim1U
02-27-2012, 10:49 AM
G17:oji:

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AeroEngi
02-27-2012, 11:21 AM
Yup it does, so be careful. I'm not trying to discourage people to not learn how to gunsmith but its not worth it on a expensive piece, that and you'll probally get a deal if you do more than one thing on Sigs CS anyways.

Then I might consider sending them both to Sig for the SRT and maybe even get the Action Enhancement Package while they're there.

What's disappointing to me is that sending a handloaded/reloaded round down the pipe likewise voids the warranty. I don't know how they'd divine that event, but the threat has been effective on me.

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Well that sucks. How are they gonna know you fired reloads?

G17:oji:

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Kinda late to the party since I already ordered the P226 but thanks for your opinion.

onegtalon
02-27-2012, 2:55 PM
I bought a P226R and right afterwards got a G17 cause I couldn't pass up the price. Between the two I just shoot the Sig better so I'm selling my G17 to a buddy... I'm using those funds to pay (partially) for a P220R ;-)

I wanted to love the Glock but just couldn't get used to it...

AeroEngi
02-27-2012, 3:03 PM
I bought a P226R and right afterwards got a G17 cause I couldn't pass up the price. Between the two I just shoot the Sig better so I'm selling my G17 to a buddy... I'm using those funds to pay (partially) for a P220R ;-)

I wanted to love the Glock but just couldn't get used to it...

Nice dude. I love my Sigs and I also have a P220R. One of the finest pistols I've ever shot!

With that said, to help ease the pain of waiting for my new baby to get out of jail, which Mec-Gar mags are recommended for the P226? Is there a big difference between the blued finish mags and the nickel plated finish mags?

KeithG
02-27-2012, 4:51 PM
Just my preference but I'd get the ones that match my gun's finish. Having 5 mags allows me to load a full box of 50 at the range. :)

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AeroEngi
02-27-2012, 5:03 PM
Just my preference but I'd get the ones that match my gun's finish. Having 5 mags allows me to load a full box of 50 at the range. :)

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I've heard the ones made by Checkmate cause some issues and the Mec-Gar mags are the ones to go with.

onegtalon
02-28-2012, 1:34 AM
I'd go with Mec Gar from what I've heard.... Stay away from Promags.. Look for used ones here on the Marketplace.. I found a few old German Sig ones... :-)


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Sturnovik
02-28-2012, 9:03 AM
I've heard the ones made by Checkmate cause some issues and the Mec-Gar mags are the ones to go with.

I've ran them, no issues. A few people have reported issues with the P226 ones, that said I've never seen it first hand. Even then though its small in numbers. I hadnt even seen pictures of them until people finally did and then I tried one from a buddy.

I'd definitely stay with mecgar, but either way checkmate usually makes a decent mag.

Stick with the black mags from mecgar, there even cheaper than Sig factory (yes there is sig factory mags for the 50th time before, I even confirmed it, but they hardly ever show up).

resident-shooter
02-28-2012, 9:54 AM
Glock 17. For obvious reasons.

1. Cheaper than your other choices. Around 500 on the classifieds.
2. Ugly, yeah she's butt ugly but dead-nuts reliable.
3. You can overhaul the entire weapon in 6 minutes yourself.
4. Runs 100% with any ammo. Built for war and will run ammo from the dirt.
5. Very accurate.
6. Trigger is just fine. If not, $15 will fix it. (4.5 connector)
7. Will take normal 17 round magazines or 33 round magazines.
8. Factory sights are good; you can also get night sights. etc.
9. You can go swimming with it and she will still run 100%.
10. Will always be worth $500.
11. Bury it for 2 years in the mud. Dig it up and it will run no problem.
12. Did I mention that it was ugly...? :)

Be well
Bob
:chris:

SP2022 costs $400. If you look to buy a fun gun, SP2022 is my recommendation.

KeithG
02-28-2012, 10:52 AM
I've ran them, no issues. A few people have reported issues with the P226 ones, that said I've never seen it first hand. Even then though its small in numbers. I hadnt even seen pictures of them until people finally did and then I tried one from a buddy.

I'd definitely stay with mecgar, but either way checkmate usually makes a decent mag. Where did you find the Checkmate P226 mag pictures?

Thanks.

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Sturnovik
02-28-2012, 11:25 AM
Where did you find the Checkmate P226 mag pictures?

Thanks.

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Sig forum. I dont see them often and I've tried them once. But yea the mecgars are still better.

runway1
02-28-2012, 11:25 AM
I have a P226.....and I voted for the Glock. My entire view of handguns changed when I bought my first Glock. I will probably never buy another brand of handgun again.....unless it's a 1911.

Funny how things work; I had the same experience in reverse! Shot many a gun when I came across shooting a Glock. I will probably never buy a Glock:eek:

P.S. Choice hands down is Sig, then Beretta, then CZ for 9mm.

AeroEngi
02-28-2012, 6:52 PM
Sig forum. I dont see them often and I've tried them once. But yea the mecgars are still better.

Damn, the 10 round Mec-Gar's are out of stock pretty much everywhere :(

AeroEngi
03-02-2012, 1:20 PM
Finally DROS'd the P226 today. It looked like it was in great shape. No smilies on the barrel and the frame rails looked excellent. Now the wait begins...

Just wanted to thank everyone for their help and advice.

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KeithG
03-02-2012, 1:44 PM
If/as/when you get the SRT done, I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences.

Enjoy and welcome to the club!

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AeroEngi
03-02-2012, 2:59 PM
If/as/when you get the SRT done, I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences.

Enjoy and welcome to the club!

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Will do man. Thanks!

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SIGSHOOTR
03-02-2012, 3:03 PM
One more question guys. Is the SRT really worth it? I was thinking about ordering it for both of my Sigs.

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TOTALLY. Had it done to my P226 Navy. I had it installed after sending it back to SIG for its 5K round service. The stock trigger is fine-- but the SRT makes the gun much more responsive for rapid fire/folo-on shots. Also, if your gun didn't come with them- I'd recommend getting a good set of night sights.

Sturnovik
03-02-2012, 4:11 PM
TOTALLY. Had it done to my P226 Navy. I had it installed after sending it back to SIG for its 5K round service. The stock trigger is fine-- but the SRT makes the gun much more responsive for rapid fire/folo-on shots. Also, if your gun didn't come with them- I'd recommend getting a good set of night sights.

+1, its so much easier than doing it yourself, factory is sighted and is a plus. Bring a punch simply because you may end up having a different shooting style or may shoot it farther than they sight them in at.


Finally DROS'd the P226 today. It looked like it was in great shape. No smilies on the barrel and the frame rails looked excellent. Now the wait begins...

Just wanted to thank everyone for their help and advice.

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Mecgars sight has them, only certain finishes though. It almost looks like Mecgar is stopping them all together. Thank god I have like 3-4 of those and some OEM 10's. I wonder what spring I'll have to use if they ever crap out. Honestly if you see them on Mecgar's website, you only end up paying 5-8 bucks more atleast.

You'll like the SRT if you got it.

KeithG
03-02-2012, 5:50 PM
If n/a means not available, don't bother visiting http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Sig-Sauer/MGP22610 :mad:

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KeithG
03-02-2012, 5:56 PM
Bring a punch simply because you may end up having a different shooting style or may shoot it farther than they sight them in at.Punch? No. :eek:

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AeroEngi
03-02-2012, 6:32 PM
Found the Mec-Gar mags on gregcotellc.com per the advice from the guys on the sig forum. They only had the nickel plated ones in stock so I bought a couple of those.

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KeithG
03-02-2012, 6:46 PM
Found the Mec-Gar mags on gregcotellc.com per the advice from the guys on the sig forum. They only had the nickel plated ones in stock so I bought a couple of those.

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The guys at the range will simply assume that your stainless steel P226 is a safe queen. ;)

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Sturnovik
03-02-2012, 7:17 PM
Punch? No. :eek:

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Yea really. Like I'd go out and spend 80-100 plus bucks on a device that I can do with a soft mallet and a punch covered in a sock or other soft material. Men use punches :D. In fact, even on my p226 W. German I found my last set of trijicons I installed myself that way were a tad more accurate than the sig factory ones installed when I did the package. But if you have no clue how to OP, def use a tool. I doubt you'll need it though.

Sturnovik
03-02-2012, 7:18 PM
If n/a means not available, don't bother visiting http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Sig-Sauer/MGP22610 :mad:

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Must have just hit, because I bought one less than 2 days ago form there.

Sturnovik
03-02-2012, 7:19 PM
Found the Mec-Gar mags on gregcotellc.com per the advice from the guys on the sig forum. They only had the nickel plated ones in stock so I bought a couple of those.

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The nickel are fine, even mecgar had those on there site. 5 buck difference, never heard of that site before though, the "gregcotellc.com" one.