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Tghgy2
02-19-2012, 10:11 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts on the Thureon defense .40 s&w rifle? Or know of any alternetives I might look at?

CaliforniaLiberal
02-20-2012, 5:41 AM
Ruger P40

Don't know Thureon except from Heather LeCroix youtube videos.

r3dn3ck
02-20-2012, 6:21 AM
Any of a number of lever actions from rossi, taurus, winchester in rimmed cases (.38/357 up to .45lc). AR platform uppers in any of a number of pistol rounds. Don't forget the Destroyer Carbine type like me and a few others are building right now (mauser bolt gun + conversion kit = .45acp bolt action rifle feeds from 1911 mags, no AW laws). There's also the Ruger PC40 and PC9 and the Marlin Camp series of 9mm-.45acp rifles.

The thureon looks like a redneck with a CNC mill decided to make a toy. It looks created rather than engineered.... sorta in the same way as a M3 grease gun.

rudigan
02-20-2012, 6:28 AM
I picked up a Puma .357/.38 lever action at Big 5 a few years ago. Super fun gun, great match with the J frames.

VegasND
02-20-2012, 7:20 AM
I've got lever actions in .38/.357 mag and .44 mag along with semi-autos in 9mm and .45acp. They're a lot of fun, mostly for plinking and playing or small game/varmint hunting.

If I need to carry a rifle for any serious reason I want a rifle power cartridge.

Tghgy2
02-20-2012, 3:19 PM
Any of a number of lever actions from rossi, taurus, winchester in rimmed cases (.38/357 up to .45lc). AR platform uppers in any of a number of pistol rounds. Don't forget the Destroyer Carbine type like me and a few others are building right now (mauser bolt gun + conversion kit = .45acp bolt action rifle feeds from 1911 mags, no AW laws). There's also the Ruger PC40 and PC9 and the Marlin Camp series of 9mm-.45acp rifles.

The thureon looks like a redneck with a CNC mill decided to make a toy. It looks created rather than engineered.... sorta in the same way as a M3 grease gun.

I agree the Thureon looks terrible...Ill look into the others thanks

ivanimal
02-20-2012, 3:37 PM
https://www.masterpiecearms.com/prodimages/MPA1sst-CA-II.jpg

https://www.masterpiecearms.com/proddetail.php?prod=MPA1SST&cat=23
https://www.masterpiecearms.com/prodimages/MPA9300SST.jpg

https://www.masterpiecearms.com/products.php?cat=33

fourXfour
02-20-2012, 3:45 PM
Thureon Defense makes the AR that takes Glock mags. I spoke to them at SHOT. They sell CA legal versions

http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/edmateo50/photo-4.jpg

Their rifles look similar to a the EMF JR carbine. Both take Glock mags, but I believe the JR carbine requires the buffer tube to be unscrewed to clean.

http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/edmateo50/photo-7.jpg

I have never shot either one, so I can't give any hands on opinions.

wayneinFL
02-20-2012, 3:53 PM
Probably not what you're looking for, but I have a 16" 94 trapper in 357 mag. Fun little gun to shoot. Also, a Ruger 44 mag carbine. I'd swear it's lighter than the 44 mag Redhawk I have, and easier to carry in the woods.

DannyInSoCal
02-20-2012, 4:02 PM
I grabbed a Hi-Point carbine in .45ACP -

Surprisingly accurate out to about 75 yards -

Heavy - Ugly - Crappy trigger -

And according to everyone who loves to shoot it -

The best $300 I ever spent....

:43:

ElvenSoul
02-20-2012, 4:04 PM
HiPoint, CX4, and the Keltec 2K.

Tghgy2
02-20-2012, 5:22 PM
Thanks all

Bikertrash
02-20-2012, 5:35 PM
I like my Rossi .38/.357, but my Henry Big Boy in. 45LC is pretty sweet.

jmust1991
02-20-2012, 5:37 PM
Ruger PC4 and PC9 FTW

ElvenSoul
02-21-2012, 7:11 AM
Sten, Sterling, MP40, Uzi, & Mac10 come to mind as well.

Capybara
02-21-2012, 11:58 AM
I have wanted to own an UZI since I was a kid. I will be buying a CA compliant Vector. Oh and I always wanted an MP5 as well, is there a CA compliant MP5?

Dan

Woodworker2
02-21-2012, 5:55 PM
Olympic Arms makes AR pistol caliber uppers in 9mm, 40 S&W, and .45 ACP. No magazine well adapters are required, the magazines have the same shape as a standard 223 magazine (10 round magazines are available). No special hammer, or buffer, is needed.

Saym14
02-21-2012, 6:00 PM
several experts I have read said if you need a rifle, then you need a rifle cartridge. handgun bullets are a compromise of size and are reletively weak compared to a rifle.

look at Navy Seals and SWAT teams have left the 9mm MP5 for the 5.56 M4 rifle.

ElvenSoul
02-21-2012, 6:03 PM
Saym14 carbines are popular for home defense situations.

SanPedroShooter
02-21-2012, 6:38 PM
I made the mother of a thread about those Thueron defense Glock mag carbines the other day. I think they look kinda cool in a black gun sort of way, and the owners are cool, and they are super California friendly and they come in almost every caliber Glock makes mags for makes execpt .45 GAP... So 9, 357SIG, .40, .45, 10mm. They make a bullet button that will fit any of their lowers.

I was thinking about a featurless one so I can use my 32 rounders.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=535227

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad189/brentx39/gc9.jpg

The Gleam
02-21-2012, 6:49 PM
Ruger PC4 .40S&W
Ruger PC9 9mm
Marlin Camp Carbines in .9mm or .45ACP
HK USC in .45ACP
Ruger's Carbine in .44 Magnum
M1 Carbine shoots .30Carbine (More like a pistol round than rifle)
Plenty or Lever Actions chambered in pistol rounds.
MPA 971 Masterpiece Arms in 9mm using a Suomi magazine
Plenty of AR conversions.
FN PS90 in 5.7mmX28mm

...and a whole lot of others.

SanPedroShooter
02-21-2012, 6:56 PM
I've been to some indoor 'pistol' ranges where they let me shoot my M1 Carbine.

Bt Doctur
02-21-2012, 7:33 PM
Dont know if this is Cali legal,but.........................
http://www.popguns.com/mech_tech.htm

sumdood
02-21-2012, 7:42 PM
Doesn't someone make one that uses a Glock 17 frame?

Edt: never mind, I just looked at the link in the above post? Illegal in California?

Thanks