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Marthor
02-19-2012, 6:50 AM
Is there a priority list of top 2A laws that need implemented or fixed?

Sample California list:
1. Repeal AW ban law
2. Shall issue CCW
3. Safe gun list thing eliminated
4. Mag limit repealed
5. Castle Doctrine
6. Nunchucks, shuriken, etc. ban repealed
7. Open carry ban repealed
8. Registry eliminated
9. CA constitution amendment for RKBA
10. No local weapons restrictions (uniformity of state)

OleCuss
02-19-2012, 8:11 AM
So far as I know, there isn't a "priority" list.

There is a sort of malleable strategic list that the CGF board, SAF, etc. are not going to put onto this forum.

The idea is that winning requires a case law progression. You start with certain cases and get favorable case law and then leverage that case law for even more favorable case law - until our rights are restored.

As it turns out, the most bothersome/offensive laws may not be the ones which (if challenged at this time) would result in advancing our rights - they might actually serve to make it harder to restore our rights.

Edit: I should point out that this sticky thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=317860 is at least relevant to your question.

BobB35
02-19-2012, 9:03 AM
Is there a priority list of top 2A laws that need implemented or fixed?

Sample California list:
1. Repeal AW ban law
2. Shall issue CCW
3. Safe gun list thing eliminated
4. Mag limit repealed
5. Castle Doctrine
6. Nunchucks, shuriken, etc. ban repealed
7. Open carry ban repealed
8. Registry eliminated
9. CA constitution amendment for RKBA
10. No local weapons restrictions (uniformity of state)

Before you go about creating a list you have to get some things straight on just what the 2A right is accorrding to the supreme court. Right now they are still fighting a case filed last century and fighting an uphill battle trying to get the states to recognize that the scotus made a ruling in Heller and McDonald. As of now there has yet to be a win on that front. Expect at the current rate at least 3 to 5 more years. Just hope bummer loses in 2012 or the consevative justices remain health. Right now there is a lot of activity but very few substantial wins since Heller and mcdoald. Or in hthe last 2 to 4 years

Droc101
02-19-2012, 9:14 AM
Does anyone else find it odd that we have to rely on the government to allow us to exercise a right that was written to protect the people from the government?

SanPedroShooter
02-19-2012, 9:16 AM
Odd is not the right word.....

hoffmang
02-19-2012, 8:57 PM
It's roughly this after home issues:

1. Carry (RKBA outside the home.)
2. Roster (The state can't ban some/most handguns.)
3. All semiautomatic rifles/handguns/shotguns are protected arms.
4. You can't prohibit people from arms without due process, rights restoration (MCDV, restraining orders, 5150's, non violent felons.)
5. County/City/Parks can't violate Carry rights.
6. County/Cities can't restrict FFLs more than book stores.
7. Magazines are magazines and protected (one way or another.)
8. If you can pass a NICS you can buy a gun - anywhere.
9. If you have a NICS exempt license/permit you can't be made to wait to take possession.

The order isn't perfect, but that's the general outline.

-Gene

ptoguy2002
02-19-2012, 9:08 PM
.....and.......um......After 9 is done, we should have enough dates to be comfortable enough to go back door, so:
10. Sound suppressors are needed to prevent hearing loss.
11. Short barreled rifles are protected arms too.
12. NFA - 86 ban is unconstitutional

Can we add those to the list too?

hoffmang
02-19-2012, 9:53 PM
.....and.......um......After 9 is done, we should have enough dates to be comfortable enough to go back door, so:
10. Sound suppressors are needed to prevent hearing loss.
11. Short barreled rifles are protected arms too.
12. NFA - 86 ban is unconstitutional

Can we add those to the list too?

:whistling:

-Gene

ewarmour
02-19-2012, 9:59 PM
3. All semiautomatic rifles/handguns/shotguns are protected arms.

Does this include "unregistered assault weapons".

ewarmour
02-19-2012, 9:59 PM
D'oh!

nicki
02-19-2012, 10:24 PM
Problem we have is the court of public opinion. The reality is most Americans are grossly ignorant about not only what are constitutional rights are supposed to be, but why?

Like it or not, public opinion will effect how expansive the courts will extend the 2nd amendment.

Nicki

Gray Peterson
02-20-2012, 10:58 AM
Does this include "unregistered assault weapons".

If they annihilate the "features" bans and leave just the named AW ban in, it's completely ineffective.

ewarmour
02-20-2012, 12:24 PM
If they annihilate the "features" bans and leave just the named AW ban in, it's completely ineffective.

Makes sense.

It's roughly this after home issues:

1. Carry (RKBA outside the home.)
2. Roster (The state can't ban some/most handguns.)
3. All semiautomatic rifles/handguns/shotguns are protected arms.
4. You can't prohibit people from arms without due process, rights restoration (MCDV, restraining orders, 5150's, non violent felons.)
5. County/City/Parks can't violate Carry rights.
6. County/Cities can't restrict FFLs more than book stores.
7. Magazines are magazines and protected (one way or another.)
8. If you can pass a NICS you can buy a gun - anywhere.
9. If you have a NICS exempt license/permit you can't be made to wait to take possession.

The order isn't perfect, but that's the general outline.

-Gene

To these ends I've committed $100 per month to the Calguns Foundation with additional kickers where possible. Anyone up to match funds?