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DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Does anyone own a colt LE6940CA or know where I can buy one? I have been to 5 different gun shops in my area (solano county) and they all tell me that they cannot find this rifle or order it (they only carry or order the SP 6940). I also can't find one online for order. I've also been told that the "LE" stands for law enforcement and that's why they can't sell it. But...the Colt 2012 Catalog section titled "Colt Carbines - California compliant" lists this rifle as " the premier model of this new family" and a colt CSR told me over the phone that these dealers " just need to place an order". Any help is appreciated.

Droppin Deuces
02-17-2012, 12:20 PM
Why not just get the SP version. Isn't it the exact same thing?

seainc
02-17-2012, 1:03 PM
How about this one instead.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6940CA

RealBarber
02-17-2012, 1:25 PM
the LE6940 and SP6940 are the exact same rifle, just different rollmarks

the LE says Colt's Law Enforcement Carbine and the SP says M4 Carbine

Dhena81
02-17-2012, 1:33 PM
I almost bought a LE6940 when they were still making them I'm glad I didn't for a couple of reasons. Number one price not many CA FFL's sold them and when they did the ones I saw where a couple of hundred dollars over MSRP. Second if I was ever in a situation where for some reason an uninformed LEO wanted to inspect a rifle he might wonder why it says for law enforcement use only even though those words have no real meaning. There is no reason to own the LE model except for the roll mark they are exactly the same rifle components.

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 2:09 PM
I believe the SP doesn't have the full floating barrel. The more I search this the more conflicting information I get.

Ubermcoupe
02-17-2012, 2:13 PM
EDIT: The 2012 catalog is vastly different from 2011... you may be on to something OP


I believe the SP doesn't have the full floating barrel. The more I search this the more conflicting information I get.

The advantage of the SP6940 is unmatched. The SP6940 displays fresh ingenuity with Mil-Spec hammer and trigger pivot pins, a Mil-Spec backup iron sight and a folding front sight for enhanced optical solutions, a straight gas tube and a removable lower rail which provides modularity for under mounting accessories. The patented one-piece monolithic upper receiver incorporates a continuous Mil-Spec rail from the rear of the upper receiver to the front sight. This feature affords unmatched repeatability for mounting optical systems, not found with separate handguard rail systems. Designed with accuracy in mind, its true free-floating barrel provides the enhanced accuracy necessary for long-range acquisition capability.

Source: Colt’s website (http://www.colt.com/ColtLawEnforcement/Products/ColtAdvancedLawEnforcementCarbine.aspx)
The SP6940 = LE6940 (they stopped making the LE6940 rollmark) but you can find them from other OOS dealers.

Just get the SP6940CA, change the stock if you have too. Its the same rifle style and features.

Dave07997S
02-17-2012, 2:16 PM
I believe the SP doesn't have the full floating barrel. The more I search this the more conflicting information I get.

Same rifle, the SP6940 has the full floating barrel as well.

Dave

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 2:52 PM
This LE6940CA is brand new for 2012. I know the original 6940 has been around for a while but without the factory installed BB and It actually doesn't list the SP6940 on the retail price list or the list of the 5 new CA compliant rifles( http://www.ammoland.com/2011/11/23/colt-introduces-five-california-compliant-rifles/ ). I guess I'm just confused because it seems like Colt is promoting this as a civilian CA compliant rifle and they are nowhere to be found. And why would they push it as the "premier model" if the SP is the same gun? Because of the LE Roll mark?

Quote from the Colt 2012 Catalog titled "Colt Carbines-California Compliant"

"The world renowned line of Colt rifles and carbines will now be available to residents of all 50 states. The premier model of this new family is the LE6940CA. This carbine offers a patented one-piece monolithic upper receiver that incorporates a continuous Mil-Spec M1913 Picatinny rail from the rear of the receiver to the folding front sight. This allows for endless mounting options for optics, lights or lasers. The 16.1” chrome lined barrel is completely full floating and produces exceptional accuracy thanks to this monolithic upper receiver. All models in this new family will come standard with nine round magazines and a factory installed Bullet Button®. Go ahead America, enjoy your Colt rifle!"

Specs:
Model LE6940CA
Caliber: 5.56X45 NATO
Barrel length: 16.1"
Bore: Chromed, 6 Grooves, 1-7" RH Twist
Front Sight: Flip-Up, Adjustable Post for Elevation
Rear Sight: Flip-Up, Adjustable for both Windage and Elevation
Extended Length: 35.5"
Collapsed Length: 32"
Weight: 6.8 lbs
Action: Direct Gas System, Locking Bolt
Finish: Matte Black
Special Features:
􏰀 Factory Installed Bullet Button®
􏰀 1-Piece Upper Receiver with Back Up Iron Sight (BUIS)
􏰀 Full Floated Barrel
􏰀 Bayonet Lug and Flash Hider

Ubermcoupe
02-17-2012, 3:01 PM
EDIT: The 2012 catalog is vastly different from 2011... you may be on to something OP


Your issue is the Free floating barrel right?

http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/ColtRifles/ColtCaliforniaCompliantRifles.aspx

Click on the LE6940CA picture (better yet I will post it for you)
http://www.coltsmfg.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=AqKID0OMR1I%3d&tabid=196&mid=707
Now let me post a picture of the 6940CA:
http://www.gandrtactical.com/PDGImages/SP6940CA.jpg
(taken from GR Tactical (http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6940CA))

Its the SAME rifle.

You’re right in that Colt no long lists SP6940CA on its website, but from what I gather, it doesn’t list ANY Sporter with the designation “SPxxxx” anymore.
My guess is they are ditching the “sporter” designation for the “LE” designation.


Either way your splitting hairs, its the same gun, and if you can’t get your head around that you can always just buy the FREE FLOAT upper:
http://www.coltsmfg.com/ShopOnline/tabid/62/ProdID/302/Default.aspx
eatures:
Full Floated 16.1" Chrome Lined Barrel with 1-7" RH Twist, 1 Piece Monolithic Receiver, Flip-up Front and Rear Sights, Bayonet Lug and Screw on Flash Hider, includes Pivot Pin Adapter to mount upper on Colt lower receivers with large pivot pins.

Ubermcoupe
02-17-2012, 3:11 PM
Okay so I’m looking over the current Catalog (2012) and they have a whole bunch of new rifles (including the piston models) in there, models not previously in the 2011 catalog...

Hrm, OP, you may be on to more than I thought you were.

Ubermcoupe
02-17-2012, 3:45 PM
Colt 2012 can be downloaded here (http://www.coltsmfg.com/MediaDownloads.aspx)

OKAY:

So I was confused OP, sorry about that. When you said LE6940 I thought of this:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL366/498052/7101083/243706057.jpg
Last year (2011) Colt finally released a CA compliant version under the “sporter” series with special “CA” designations after the model identification numbers.
So, I thought you were referring to the “old” LE6940s.

Upon closer inspection I see that Colt has changed their catalog to reflect the updated models and new additions to the stable, especially the new Piston model (LE6940P).

It appears (from the catalog) that all new rifles will carry the “M4 Carbine” roll mark (making them OLLs) as well as the CR series also carrying the “M4 Carbine” roll mark.

Obviously the CA designated models are CA okay.

However the AR series rifles (AR6720, AR6450, and most likely the AR6721) appear (based on catalog pictures) to carry the “AR-15” roll mark which means they are more than likely no-go in CA.
The Match Target line (MT6400, MT6400R, & most likely the MT6700 and MT6731) also appears to carry the “Match Target” roll mark which means they are also probably a No-Go in CA.

So, back to your question OP:

You will probably have to wait to get your hands on a “LE6940CA” rifle until they hit the shelves.
What’s the difference between the LE6940CA and SP6940CA?
The label on the box and the title of the brochure/manual that you will receive.

From the 2011 catalog:
Model SP6940
�� .223 Rem (5.56x45 NATO)
�� 16.1” Chromed, 6 Grooves, 1-7” RH Twist
�� Flip-Up, Adjustable Post for Elevation
�� Flip-Up, Adjustable for both Windage and Elevation
�� 35.25”
�� 32”
�� 6.6 lbs
�� Semi-Auto, Direct Gas System, Locking Bolt
�� Matte Black
�� 1-Piece Upper Receiver
�� Full Floated Barrel
�� Bayonet Lug and Flash Hider

vs

From the 2012 catalog:

Model LE6940CA
�� 5.56X45 NATO
�� 16.1" Chromed, 6 Grooves, 1-7" RH Twist
�� Flip-Up, Adjustable Post for Elevation
�� Flip-Up, Adjustable for both Windage and Elevation
�� 35.5"
�� 32"
�� 6.8 lbs
�� Direct Gas System, Locking Bolt
�� Matte Black
�� Factory Installed Bullet Button®
�� 1-Piece Upper Receiver with Back Up Iron Sight (BUIS)
�� Full Floated Barrel
�� Bayonet Lug and Flash Hider

If you ask me they are the same gun. You can get the SP6940CA now, or wait to get an LE6940CA (Summer some time?)

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 4:19 PM
Thanks for all the info! So my understanding is the SP6940 is the same rifle (older) with an aftermarket bullet button installed since Colt just started making them in 2012? Does that affect warranty? Also, as I stated in my original post, I called Colt and the CSR told me these gun stores I'd visited "just need to place an order" leading me to believe they have already hit shelves. The word "new" probably has me a little overzealous but I hope I can find one soon.

Droppin Deuces
02-17-2012, 4:24 PM
http://www.riflegear.com/p-1316-colt-sp6940ca-monolithic-upper-carbine-rifle.aspx

They just came out in the past 6 months or so. I don't know if I would call them old...

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 4:32 PM
I thought they were the 2011 model? The Colt factory installed BB just came out in 2012 right?

Ubermcoupe
02-17-2012, 5:58 PM
I thought they were the 2011 model? The Colt factory installed BB just came out in 2012 right?

No. Colt released the SP6940CA with a COLT BB from the factory just before the holiday season.

You can see links to the press releases from a similar thread here:

And if you still don’t believe me:
http://www.ammoland.com/2011/11/23/colt-introduces-five-california-compliant-rifles/
http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106775
http://www.guns.com/three-california-colts-now-with-more-bullet-button.html

And if you’re too :TFH: to believe that,

You can always just buy the 6940 upper (http://www.coltsmfg.com/ShopOnline/tabid/62/ProdID/302/Default.aspx) and buy any lower you want...


Hope that helps :D

The CA editions come from the factory with Colt (not sure if they contract out) Bullet Buttons and 9rd (yes 9) magazines.

Ubermcoupe
02-17-2012, 6:08 PM
Thanks for all the info! So my understanding is the SP6940 is the same rifle

Again I am not a colt rep, nor do I claim to be, but from the release of their brochures (2011 vs 2012) it appears they ditched the “SP” moniker and transitioned to the “LE” moniker.
I even highlighted the differences between the 2011 SP6940 and the 2012 LE6940 so it is my contention that they are indeed the same rifle.


...bullet button installed ...Does that affect warranty?
Since it’s a “colt” bullet button and comes from COLT in that form I would assume that they are covered under factory warranty. Maybe call a CSR @ colt to confirm if you’re still iffy.


I called Colt and the CSR told me these gun stores I'd visited "just need to place an order" leading me to believe they have already hit shelves.
That may be true, or it may take forever to get them, who knows... I can order a SA Professional and they may be “on shelves” somewhere but that doesn’t mean I will find one @ my LGS, you know?
Especially if the LGS still have SP6940CA’s in stock and on shelves.

Your best bet would be to ask a knowledgable GS to order you one - ( I say knowledgeable because I didn’t see the difference until you pointed it out).

In any case, good luck with the purchase. Let us know when/where you find one and be sure to post up pictures/range report when you get one! :D

BTW: I’d love to know the pricing on the LE6940P...:D

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 7:37 PM
Well, I filled out a gun inquiry at Bass Pro for the LE6940CA and they assured me that they'll find it if it's out there. I'm still going to check with a few more shops about this mythical rifle, but either way I'll be posting pics of my new Colt SP/LE soon. Thanks for the help!

The LE6940P seems to retail around $2,000 but is out of stock/ backorder everywhere I looked.

seainc
02-17-2012, 8:20 PM
There you go BUY IT NOW if you really want it.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273423444
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=274314334
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273786201
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273920853


Or you can try to find a deregistered LE6921 or LE6933 lower to go with a 6940 upper.

Find it. LE6921 (http://www.hkspecialiststore.com/product_detail.php?Category=12&Page_Number=1&Index_Seq=966&Home_Page=) LE6933 (http://www.hkspecialiststore.com/product_detail.php?Category=12&Page_Number=1&Index_Seq=965&Home_Page=). You will need to find a middle man can accept the transfer and deregister them for you. You can take the LE6921 upper but you need to pin a FH to bring it to legal length. LE6933 upper is too short so, you will need to ask the middle man to sell it for you.

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 9:45 PM
I think 3 out of those 4 guns are the older "restricted" Law Enforcement 6940's, which are illegal to own in CA right? One of them says it doesn't have the "restricted" roll mark. I'll have to see if it has a BB or if they can install one. $1,600 is also the price range I'm in, although that 6940 with the aimpoint and grip pod looks amazing for $3,100. Thanks for the links! I'm looking into the one for sale from OutlawGunsAndAmmo.

seainc
02-17-2012, 10:01 PM
Just curious, why you need a LE6940? You can get this for less and they come with BB installed.
http://www.riflegear.com/p-1316-colt-sp6940ca-monolithic-upper-carbine-rifle.aspx
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=7358226&postcount=22

DoubleDown707
02-17-2012, 11:30 PM
I don't NEED the LE...I just wanted to buy the new Colt CA compliant rifle complete without having to build it separately -Colt website says SP6940 upper may not be installed in CA, NY...etc. I did a little research and tried to find the rifle after seeing it in the 2012 catalog, but couldn't. So ive been trying to figure out why the stores I visited couldnt order it, and also if the SP and the LE were the same rifle. From what I've heard today, It sounds like they are...I just couldnt find the SP on the colt site, just the new LE models so I wasnt sure they were CA compliant. As Ubermcoupe said earlier they seem to be "ditching the "Sporter" designation for the "LE" designation". I just want the characteristics of the rifle I described earlier (LE6940CA) with a factory BB. As long as it meets those specs and it's CA legal I don't care if it's SP. And I'm looking to spend $1500-$1600. LE6940 msrp is $1530 in the Colt Catalog.

Ubermcoupe
02-18-2012, 9:01 AM
I think 3 out of those 4 guns are the older "restricted" Law Enforcement 6940's, which are illegal to own in CA right?

Incorrect. There are MANY threads on the topic so I won’t stir that pot. If you feel the need to fish out why its not illegal you can search and search (use google, enter your searchterm(s) and limit it to site:calguns.net) but in short the LE6940 is not illegal.
Only the LE6920’s (because there are explicitly named on the banned list) are illegal. Those came with this roll mark:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPn7h6eSfhDR8wOe_l2u4KUn0NsGs6Z YHcLQgAnaOxOYfPELqVwJXoyPJr

IIRC, The 6940’s came with this roll mark:
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL366/498052/7101083/243706057.jpg

Notice “M4LE” vs. “Law Enforcement”

It was strongly encouraged that those who ordered the “old” LE6940s kept their rifles in the exact configuration they came in from the factory and retained the original brochures and materials that identified it as a LE6940 vs and LE6920 in case of a legal challenge.

It was also recommended by “the powers that be” that folks stray away from these lowers because they could easily be confused with the banned lowers.
AND: with the price these lowers were going for it was inconceivable to $1000 for a colt lower when you could get a just as good, if not better, lower from DD, LMT, LWRC, et al for half the price.

Last year, Colt changed many of the roll marks to “M4 Carbine,” thus creating “Off List Lower” receivers, and when put in a CA compliant fashion (BB), they were now legal to own in CA.

OP, You are right that the ones seainc linked to are the “old” LE6940s and there is no reason why you should spend that much for one of those when you can get the CA compliant version for less.

Again, It will probably take awhile to find the “LE6940CA,” and my bet is when you put it next to a “SP6940CA” they will be identical (I could have sworn I posted that previously in this thread... :rolleyes: - o yea, here it is (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=8059402&postcount=12))

And to that part about the 6940 Upper being illegal if installed in CA, That’s bologna - Since when did the DOJ start banning upper receivers??? C’mon.

Guzzi
03-08-2012, 5:07 PM
I am also looking for the 2012 LE6940 CA, did you ever locate one?

Pags
03-08-2012, 8:53 PM
Hmmm... I haven't heard of a Law Enforcement /California Compliant version... The law enforcement 6940's are not intended for civilian purchase, and do not have bullet buttons installed. A LEO can purchase one if authorized by his/her agency, but they are not good to go for civilian purchase in California.

That being said, the SP6940CA's (CA compliant) have sold pretty well since they became available in CA.. They are pretty hard to find even on line right now. From what I'm told, Colt is a few weeks behind shipping out subsequent batches.

ginzero
03-09-2012, 12:31 AM
Mine's in jail.. gets out next Tuesday. Purchased from MPArms and sent to my FFL.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/ginzero/th_colt6940.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/ginzero/?action=view&current=colt6940.jpg)

Guzzi
03-09-2012, 5:05 PM
Hmmm... I haven't heard of a Law Enforcement /California Compliant version... The law enforcement 6940's are not intended for civilian purchase, and do not have bullet buttons installed. A LEO can purchase one if authorized by his/her agency, but they are not good to go for civilian purchase in California.

That being said, the SP6940CA's (CA compliant) have sold pretty well since they became available in CA.. They are pretty hard to find even on line right now. From what I'm told, Colt is a few weeks behind shipping out subsequent batches.

2012 LE6940CA is listed as CA Compliant with bullet button on the Colt Consumer website. It appears they haved changed from SP to LE unless their website is wrong.

Pags
03-10-2012, 7:28 AM
Guzzi - You're right, the 2012 catalogue does list it as LE6940CA, but I think they changed the roll marks before they started shipping the CA compliant rifles- I just bought one, and mine has an SP roll mark. (See below from Colt's FB page).

Colt Defense - Roll Mark Change.
by Colt on Friday, August 5, 2011 at 11:38am ·

Colt Defense is discontinuing the use of the LE “restricted to Military and Law Enforcement” roll mark. As soon as existing production runs are complete, models previously roll marked as LE6920 and LE6940 will be roll marked as SP6920 and SP6940. This change applies immediately to all new orders. In addition, existing orders will be filled with rifles marked with the new model numbers as soon as the LE roll marked inventory has been manufactured and shipped.

Accordingly, proceeding from this date forward, all orders for LE6920’s and LE6940’s will be entered as SP6920’s and SP6940’s respectively.

The roll mark for the SP6920’s and SP6940’s will appear as follows:

SPORTER

M4 CARBINE

SER. SPXXXXX


The SP serialization will continue in the chronological order that has been established and in use for many years.

Ubermcoupe
03-10-2012, 11:41 AM
Hmmm... I haven't heard of a Law Enforcement /California Compliant version... The law enforcement 6940's are not intended for civilian purchase, and do not have bullet buttons installed. A LEO can purchase one if authorized by his/her agency, but they are not good to go for civilian purchase in California.



With all due respect,
Did you read any of what I posted???

Do me a favor, consult the 2012 Colt Catalog and show me what page the SP6940CA appears on... :facepalm:

EDIT: I see that you have now seen the light, I would edit your original post so as to keep from spreading FUD - The MYTH that a civilian can’t buy an LE6940 is now dead.

Pags
03-10-2012, 2:19 PM
Ubermcoupe - Thanks for your discussion!! This is why I like Calguns, because I can learn from others and enjoy the different perspectves/opinions.

My post offering refers to the new California Compliant M4s that Colt just started shipping to California late last year (I think that that was the one the orginal poster was interested in purchasing). They are not roll marked "LE", and are not manufactured by Colt Defense Division. (Please see the Colt press release dated August 2011 which explains that they changed the roll mark from LE to SP).
I shopped at a few gun stores (both local and online), and my experience was the same as the original poster - the CA compliant model that they could sell /order for me was the SP6940CA. I found a bunch of LE6940's onlne, but my friend that handles my FFL transactions advised me that he could not legally DROS me an LE6940 without my agencies letter.

But in all seriousness - no sarcasm - Thank You for your input and response!! I love reading all these posts, and learn from everyone's experience and perspective. Heck, I'm rooting for you to be correct about any California civilian being able to just go out and purchase a regular LE6940... I took your advise and read some of the threads that you suggested, too - But my personal experience is that the LE6940's available at LGS (such as Botach, SD Police Supply, LAPRAAC, won't sell them without an agency letter). I think that was why the new California Compliant 6940 models sold so quickly, right?? Otherwise, everyone would have been able to get the 6940's already...

Anyways, I ended up finally finding my SP6940CA and pick it up tomorrow!!! You're earlier posts were right on - It's the same dang weapon, just with a BB installed!! I personally even like the roll mark better!!!

BTW, I think that Colt is in fact planning on a CA compliant Piston model for summer 2012... The one I am really hoping to be able to buy in the future is the 901!!!

Respectfully,
Pags

DoubleDown707
03-10-2012, 6:51 PM
I have talked to Colt mfg and Colt Defense several times since my last post and have been waiting for a distributor to get the LE6940CA in stock. I've found 2 gun stores that have located the gun for me, but they can't give me an accurate estimate as to when the distributors will have it in stock. So I'm going in tomorrow to pre-order the gun and wait it out. They are making me pay in advance...Ill let you know when it comes.
@ Pags -
I found out about the SP6940CA through this post but I was, and still am interested in the 2012 Model listed in the Colt catalog (LE6940CA). The Colt representatives I talked to informed me that the SP Models have been replaced by the new LE models. And yes, they have the exact same features, but I'm holding out for the "new" one. Don't ask me why...:)

Guzzi
03-10-2012, 7:56 PM
I have talked to Colt mfg and Colt Defense several times since my last post and have been waiting for a distributor to get the LE6940CA in stock. I've found 2 gun stores that have located the gun for me, but they can't give me an accurate estimate as to when the distributors will have it in stock. So I'm going in tomorrow to pre-order the gun and wait it out. They are making me pay in advance...Ill let you know when it comes.
@ Pags -
I found out about the SP6940CA through this post but I was, and still am interested in the 2012 Model listed in the Colt catalog (LE6940CA). The Colt representatives I talked to informed me that the SP Models have been replaced by the new LE models. And yes, they have the exact same features, but I'm holding out for the "new" one. Don't ask me why...:)

I also want the 12 so you are not alone, I was quoted $1,599 by Turner's. A bit torn, I could pick up a Ruger Mini 14 All Weather for an excellent price. I may go with the Mini and graduate to the LE 6940 when they are stocked and I can do a little better on price.

I bought a new 10 22 Carbine Stainless today which is a nice addition too... would go nice with the stainless mini...

jonzer77
03-10-2012, 10:27 PM
I have talked to Colt mfg and Colt Defense several times since my last post and have been waiting for a distributor to get the LE6940CA in stock. I've found 2 gun stores that have located the gun for me, but they can't give me an accurate estimate as to when the distributors will have it in stock. So I'm going in tomorrow to pre-order the gun and wait it out. They are making me pay in advance...Ill let you know when it comes.
@ Pags -
I found out about the SP6940CA through this post but I was, and still am interested in the 2012 Model listed in the Colt catalog (LE6940CA). The Colt representatives I talked to informed me that the SP Models have been replaced by the new LE models. And yes, they have the exact same features, but I'm holding out for the "new" one. Don't ask me why...:)

Go to galleryofguns.com and setup an email alert to find out when they get one in stock. Usually when they get a bunch in stock, everyone else does as well. The nice thing about ordering from them is no one can beat their otd prices(they include the fees in their prices) and they also give you a lifetime warranty as long as your register it with them after you buy it.

Pags
03-11-2012, 7:53 AM
@Doubledown - Also hit up Rifle Gear in Fountain Valley.... great customer service without being condescending.... Hold out for the gun that you want, and good luck!!!!

docsmileyface
03-11-2012, 10:56 AM
Mine's in jail.. gets out next Tuesday. Purchased from MPArms and sent to my FFL.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/ginzero/th_colt6940.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/ginzero/?action=view&current=colt6940.jpg)

LOL, I was about to buy that 6940 the same night you bought it from Peter. I ended up getting a 6920 from him, then I bought the upper separate from G&R Tactical. When I pick up the 6920 I'm just going to strip down the upper and sell it, so in the end I'll have a 6940 for actually a couple hundred dollars cheaper than if I bought a 6940 from the start!

ginzero
03-11-2012, 8:08 PM
LOL, I was about to buy that 6940 the same night you bought it from Peter. I ended up getting a 6920 from him, then I bought the upper separate from G&R Tactical. When I pick up the 6920 I'm just going to strip down the upper and sell it, so in the end I'll have a 6940 for actually a couple hundred dollars cheaper than if I bought a 6940 from the start!

Nice! What are you gonna get the with extra dough?

drick
09-22-2012, 12:03 AM
Does anyone own a colt LE6940CA or know where I can buy one? I have been to 5 different gun shops in my area (solano county) and they all tell me that they cannot find this rifle or order it (they only carry or order the SP 6940). I also can't find one online for order. I've also been told that the "LE" stands for law enforcement and that's why they can't sell it. But...the Colt 2012 Catalog section titled "Colt Carbines - California compliant" lists this rifle as " the premier model of this new family" and a colt CSR told me over the phone that these dealers " just need to place an order". Any help is appreciated.

doubledown, did you ever find one, and if so what are your feelings post sale? if you could also share where you got it, that would be appreciated

BranNutz
09-22-2012, 2:02 AM
I have a SP6940CA that I got in Jan. It was my first rifle.

I absolutely love it. Has never misfired a round or not ejected a spent shell yet. The milled upper makes it very light weight for a quad rail setup. My buddies M&P15 sport with a aftermarket quad rail weighs a noticeable amount more.

I got it at Turners when they first released in Jan, but it wasn't easy they only had a few of the 40's. I had one transferred from another store.

drick
09-22-2012, 6:48 AM
I have a SP6940CA that I got in Jan. It was my first rifle.

I absolutely love it. Has never misfired a round or not ejected a spent shell yet. The milled upper makes it very light weight for a quad rail setup. My buddies M&P15 sport with a aftermarket quad rail weighs a noticeable amount more.

I got it at Turners when they first released in Jan, but it wasn't easy they only had a few of the 40's. I had one transferred from another store.

Thanks Bran, i assume when you say turners that is Turners Outdoorsman in SoCal right?

I'm trying to find someone in NorCal, but thanks for the review information.

InvalidUserID
09-22-2012, 2:09 PM
What's the deal with the 6920/6940CA? Limited run or is Colt just slow to release more?

I'm also in CA and interested in these Colt models, none in the area or online.

myk
09-22-2012, 2:20 PM
What's the deal with the 6920/6940CA? Limited run or is Colt just slow to release more?

I'm also in CA and interested in these Colt models, none in the area or online.

Tell me about it. No one around here has one and no one can tell me when they're going to restock-it's the craziest thing in the world. I have seen the 6920 CQB or whatever it's called, and the 6920 PD-I'd recommend picking those up as long as you're o.k. with the way it's set up...

DoubleDown707
09-22-2012, 2:26 PM
I completely forgot about this post. Probably because I looked for a Colt LE6940CA for soooo long. I had two gun shops tell me that they would order it, but after months of waiting and no estimate of when they would have it, I gave up.:mad:

Anyway, I decided to build my own. I chose a Noveske Gen II lower with a JP Trigger and Magpul UBR Stock. I'm currently waiting on the Noveske NSR Rail and Recon Barrel to go with the Vltor MUR. I'll Post some pics when she's finished.

Drick - If you want to buy the Colt LE6940CA, it looks like you will have to wait until mid November. The SP6940CA is available now and I've seen it in a few gun shops in the Sac area.

dat1callidude
09-22-2012, 2:55 PM
you know the upper hand guard is non removable, it milled as one piece...not sure of correct term....

Cadre
09-22-2012, 3:13 PM
there's one for sale private FA forum.

myk
09-22-2012, 3:33 PM
you know the upper hand guard is non removable, it milled as one piece...not sure of correct term....

That's the main reason why I chose the 6920 standard; I don't like the idea of an upper that has limited options for 'mods in case I ever decide to go that way. Plus, I know this is strange but I just don't like rails over the stock contoured hand guard. Other than that they're all the same rifle, pretty much...

Roland Deschain
09-22-2012, 3:34 PM
What's the deal with the 6920/6940CA? Limited run or is Colt just slow to release more?

I'm also in CA and interested in these Colt models, none in the area or online.

I waited months for a SP/LE6920 and my LGS was never able to locate one. Ended up swapping out for a Colt CR6720 (had one in stock) and couldn't be happier. If it wasn't my first AR I would have probably waited longer. Still planning to hunt down a 6920/6940 in the future.

Roland Deschain
09-22-2012, 3:45 PM
there's one for sale private FA forum.

Pretty pricey for a 6940 (assuming we're talking about the same post).

DoubleDown707
09-22-2012, 4:43 PM
you know the upper hand guard is non removable, it milled as one piece...not sure of correct term....

Monolithic

It might be a good idea to grab a Monolithic upper because other manufacturers like Mega are going to stop making them. Apparently, LMT is getting the patent. I don't know if Colt will be affected though.

Chameleon Loco
09-22-2012, 10:24 PM
The Colt LE6940 will be my first ar-15. The upper monolithic reciever is just so sweet and the lower recivever roll marked law enforcement is awesome. Plus its a colt and comes with the name and quality associated with them. They are a little pricy but I think they are worth it.

docsmileyface
09-23-2012, 7:54 AM
The monolithic upper is a great value for a free floating rail system - the price difference between the 6920 and 6940 is less than if you bought most standard drop in rails and put them in the 6920.

bigbully
09-23-2012, 8:10 AM
What's the deal with the 6920/6940CA? Limited run or is Colt just slow to release more?

I'm also in CA and interested in these Colt models, none in the area or online.

What part of Cali are you in? I've seen them here in SoCal and bought one in stock a month or two ago. I believe Turner's in Downey still has them in stock.

chicobeaks
10-08-2012, 10:52 AM
Pretty pricey for a 6940 (assuming we're talking about the same post).

That guy is dreaming if he thinks somebody will give him $1800 for that rifle. I found my LE6940CA at a shop in San Diego. They wanted $1479 for it, I offered $1400 cash and they took it.

dat1callidude
10-08-2012, 11:44 AM
even 1,400 is way to much imo...i got mine for 6920 1,100 with magpul furniture seen them for 1k even as well. impact guns has them new for 1,200

barca101
10-08-2012, 1:05 PM
Just like dat1callidude, I just purchased a 6920 with the Magpul funiture for 1,080 today. I made sure it has the LE serial number on it. The rifle is rock solid. The only thing I want to do with it is replace the BB with a Raddlock.

bigbully
10-08-2012, 6:11 PM
Lets compare apples to apples... the 6940 is completely different from the 6920 and not in the same price range. They regularly retail for $1500. I paid $1450 for mine, but I do agree $1800 is way too much.

myk
10-08-2012, 7:06 PM
How is the 6940 completely different from the 6920? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the only difference is that built-in rail system on the 6940, right? Also, has anyone seen the 6920 SOCOM? Pretty neat, IMO...

bigbully
10-08-2012, 7:33 PM
It's subjective, but IMHO, the fully free floating monolithic rail system is a significant upgrade from the standard hand guard, thus the higher price. Replacing the 6920 hand guard with tactical rails would cost just about as much as the price difference to the 6940.

myk
10-08-2012, 8:09 PM
It's subjective, but IMHO, the fully free floating monolithic rail system is a significant upgrade from the standard hand guard, thus the higher price. Replacing the 6920 hand guard with tactical rails would cost just about as much as the price difference to the 6940.

Funny thing is, with my 6920 propped beside my bed I'm thinking "gee, I may need to put a light on this thing so I can see at night-wish I had some rails..." LOL...

drick
10-08-2012, 8:32 PM
I completely forgot about this post. Probably because I looked for a Colt LE6940CA for soooo long. I had two gun shops tell me that they would order it, but after months of waiting and no estimate of when they would have it, I gave up.:mad:

Anyway, I decided to build my own. I chose a Noveske Gen II lower with a JP Trigger and Magpul UBR Stock. I'm currently waiting on the Noveske NSR Rail and Recon Barrel to go with the Vltor MUR. I'll Post some pics when she's finished.

Drick - If you want to buy the Colt LE6940CA, it looks like you will have to wait until mid November. The SP6940CA is available now and I've seen it in a few gun shops in the Sac area.

i actually looked at the noveske as well, did you get it yet? if so, how do you like it?

bigbully
10-08-2012, 8:34 PM
Funny thing is, with my 6920 propped beside my bed I'm thinking "gee, I may need to put a light on this thing so I can see at night-wish I had some rails..." LOL...

I hear ya, but you still have options. A few include:

Elzetta (http://www.elzetta.com/zfh1500FAQ.htm)

Safariland Model RK-M4 (http://www.safariland.com/FirearmsAccessories/Product-Accessorize.aspx)

BLAM AR15 M16 Bayonet Lug Accessory Mount (http://customdefensiveproducts.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=C&Product_Code=BLAM&Category_Code=AR15)

MI Tactical Light Mount (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=94)

myk
10-08-2012, 8:36 PM
I hear ya, but you still have options. A few include:

Elzetta (http://www.elzetta.com/zfh1500FAQ.htm)

Safariland Model RK-M4 (http://www.safariland.com/FirearmsAccessories/Product-Accessorize.aspx)

BLAM AR15 M16 Bayonet Lug Accessory Mount (http://customdefensiveproducts.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=C&Product_Code=BLAM&Category_Code=AR15)

MI Tactical Light Mount (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=94)

That is so freaking cool, thank you! Now...if I decide that I no longer want the contoured hand guard and want rails, is that something I can install on the 6920?

bigbully
10-08-2012, 9:04 PM
That is so freaking cool, thank you! Now...if I decide that I no longer want the contoured hand guard and want rails, is that something I can install on the 6920?

Yeah, there are a number of aftermarket rail systems you could go with. You just have to find the right length. I bought a VLTOR CASV for a carbine I'm building, but I also like the Yankee Hill Diamond Series forearms. There are a lot to choose from, but you have to find the right size to go with the sight you have or consider removing/replacing your front sight.

chicobeaks
10-10-2012, 2:58 PM
As of about an hour ago Parallax Tactical in San Diego has an LE6940CA in stock for $1500 if anybody is still looking for one.

DoubleDown707
10-10-2012, 8:32 PM
i actually looked at the noveske as well, did you get it yet? if so, how do you like it?

Still waiting on the upper. Probably won't get it until late November :(

sho
08-13-2015, 5:10 PM
Fast forward to 2015. Anyone knows where to get the 6940CA?


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KING_PALM
08-13-2015, 5:15 PM
Fast forward to 2015. Anyone knows where to get the 6940CA?


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Rifle gear has one in stock.

Also you are going to want to hop on it. Colt made it 10000x harder to get colt products unless you are a stocking dealer.

GM4spd
08-13-2015, 5:28 PM
the lower recivever roll marked law enforcement is awesome.


You may want to consider that very carefully. Pete

jonzer77
08-13-2015, 6:03 PM
Rifle gear has one in stock.

Also you are going to want to hop on it. Colt made it 10000x harder to get colt products unless you are a stocking dealer.


How weird. GoG had every gun colt makes and this all they sell now. This is recent because just a few weeks ago I was looking at what they had.

Notice it's only Walter made "Colt's"

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bigbully
08-14-2015, 12:01 AM
Turners website shows they still have it on sale for $1399.98. That's a pretty good price. I paid $1450 for mine before the big panic a few years ago.

sho
08-15-2015, 10:09 PM
Thanks guys. Any chance you guys know of a brick and mortar location in Nor Cal that carries it? No transfer would be one less step.


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