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mr821907
02-17-2012, 9:03 AM
I bought two kits the other day. A Tapco AK 10/30 mag and a Ruger 10/25 mag. The tapco has a block inside and has a riveted butt plate. The ruger is also riveted on the side and the rivet is long enough to block for only 10 rounds. Would I need to do anything else? My AK has a BB. My Ruger is a rimfire that has a thumbhole stock so I think its exempted from needing a BB. I'm I GTG?

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr197/mrmj821907/IMAG0127.jpg

Shiboleth
02-17-2012, 9:24 AM
Unless I'm missing something, you're GTG.

SanPedroShooter
02-17-2012, 10:01 AM
Yeah. Rimfires cannot be 'assault weapons' so no mag lock needed there. The over ten round mags is a seperate law that doenst apply to permantly blocked mags.

Are those rebuild kits? I thought rebuild kits were mag parts? Those are just standard mags that have been blocked to ten.

Always check the flow chart if you think you may create an AW.

http://calnra.com/cgi-bin/flowchart.cgi

mr821907
02-17-2012, 10:26 AM
Yeah. Rimfires cannot be 'assault weapons' so no mag lock needed there. The over ten round mags is a seperate law that doenst apply to permantly blocked mags.

Are those rebuild kits? I thought rebuild kits were mag parts? Those are just standard mags that have been blocked to ten.

Always check the flow chart if you think you may create an AW.

http://calnra.com/cgi-bin/flowchart.cgi

Yeah they were in parts but the ruger mag had rivets already installed. The Tapco was put together with the blocker and the rivet on the butt cover was riveted after.

SanPedroShooter
02-17-2012, 10:34 AM
There is a generally accepted definition of 'permanent' you may want to look up. I dont think there is a legal one though, the law just says 'permanently altered'

Know the laws and know your gun, and you will be fine.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=516032

"Do I need to use epoxy?
This question comes down to what is considered "permanent" by California law. As stated in CA PC12020(25): As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following: (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds. Most people play it safe and use epoxy, roll pins, rivets or other added measures of safety which we strongly recommend. DOJ info on this can be found here: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/fsor.pdf"

mr821907
02-18-2012, 12:43 PM
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/fsor.pdf

Thank you.

dieselpower
02-18-2012, 3:06 PM
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/fsor.pdf

Thank you.

Well that isn't the reason the magazines were blocked to ten rounds. That link is for why the AG worded certain aspects of the law on AWs.

You can USE any magazine you want, but you can not buy (with intent to get around a law), sell, trade, offer to sell, display for sale (to the general public) or import any magazine with a greater than ten round capacity. This started 1/1/2000.

If you USE a magazine with a capacity greater than ten in a centerfire FIXED magazine rifle, you have an AW...thats all. Without permission from the AG / DoJ office, that is a crime. Thats where that link comes in.

That has nothing to do with magazine law. So the magazine you bought can be used in ANY rifle you own. They are limited to ten rounds based on the Magazine restriction law.

My Ruger is a rimfire that has a thumbhole stock so I think its exempted from needing a BB. I'm I GTG?

Yes, your rimfire is OK without a BB and so would your AK. Your rimfire can use a 25 round magazine with a thumbhole stock, since rimfires not listed as AWs are not subject to AW ID laws. Its just your AK needs a BB since it probably has a pistol grip. Without the pistol grip (or flashhider) you could use a 30rd magazine if you legally owned one.