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96740
02-14-2012, 5:58 PM
My next handgun is going to be a .45 ACP. I've narrowed it down to two. No tactical reasons, just pleasure.

Hk USP Compact

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x61/96740/Guns/c2f20072.jpg

Colt Gold Cup

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x61/96740/Guns/9fddd31e.jpg

Brain is going with the Hk and heart is going 1911

Mickey D
02-14-2012, 6:11 PM
I have both, and enjoy the 1911 for many more reasons. Thinner, classic look, acurate, not a big fan of polymer. (my USP.45c is my only polymer handgun).


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/HKusp1.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/ColtNic1911LH.jpg

Mojaveman
02-14-2012, 6:23 PM
Firearm technology has come a long way in over 100 years and in that respect the HK USP is a more advanced pistol.

Voted for the 1911 though mostly because of sentimental reasons. Carried one while just a kid in the service and learned how to shoot it well. They're also a classic American firearm and I love mine. :)

Ubermcoupe
02-14-2012, 6:48 PM
I own 3 USPs so:

Colt GC,
Hands down.

jptopz
02-14-2012, 8:00 PM
I say Yes to both! I have had four 1911's and will always be a 1911 fan with two still in my collection. I also had a HK USP 40 great gun, and I still kick myself for trading it for a 1911 that I later traded for a Sig 229. If you do buy a HK I would stick with a 45 or 9mm the 40cal doesn't have a very good resale. Good luck!

gant
02-14-2012, 8:01 PM
1911 all the way!!!!, everyone has to have one in there gun collection

strombeck
02-14-2012, 8:14 PM
1911 such a great gun, but the HK is pretty sweet second choice.

Moving Chicane
02-14-2012, 8:17 PM
Let's go shoot some night and you can try my 1911 (so solid!) and we'll rent a USP (mine won't be here for a couple weeks) and you can decide with your own hands. :)

96740
02-14-2012, 9:05 PM
Let's go!

avneet
02-14-2012, 9:55 PM
I've not tried the .45 1911, but I rented the HK USP .45 last weekend at the local range. I loved it. The recoil was amazing. I also enjoy its more beefier look vs. the slim and classy 1911.

Bobby Ricigliano
02-15-2012, 6:04 AM
The HK will be ready to for HD/SD needs right out of the box, with a rail, night sights, and higher magazine capacity. It will also have no reliability issues with any kind of ammo.

The Gold Cup is a far more beautiful and ergonomically friendly pistol. It is THE signature American pistol. People love 1911's and are ho-hum about USP's. The 1911 is trickier to take down and reassemble and particular about what it likes to digest. 1911's make for outstanding defensive firearms but are often modified with aftermarket parts, reliability jobs, etc.

With that said, if I could only have one pistol I'd take the HK.

By the way, I have both: A USP. 45 and a 1911. I love the 1911 more but I'd grab the USP if things were going to 'go hot'.

Bobby Hated
02-15-2012, 6:11 AM
first of all you should be comparing a HK USP .45 Expert to a Colt Gold Cup, or a HK USP Compact to a Colt Commander. you got it mixed up buddy.

that being said i own a HK USP .45 Expert and Multiple Colt 1911's.

the HK is by far a more reliable, lighter, better performing pistol. it eats anything, requires as little maintenance as a gun can get away with, and runs without malfunctions no matter what.

however, if you are an American you should own at least 1 Colt 1911 at all times. they require careful maintenance, can be finicky with ammo, and are more heavy than a larger polymer gun, but they are a piece of American history and every American should own at least 1. they are also highly customizable, which HK USP's are not.

Tarn_Helm
02-15-2012, 6:21 AM
My next handgun is going to be a .45 ACP. I've narrowed it down to two. No tactical reasons, just pleasure.

Hk USP Compact

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x61/96740/Guns/c2f20072.jpg

Colt Gold Cup

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x61/96740/Guns/9fddd31e.jpg

Brain is going with the Hk and heart is going 1911

Metal vs. Plastic?

No contest.

Crisp single action trigger vs. [Insert description of HK trigger here]?

No contest.

Perfectly balanced, ergonomically ideal vs. top-heavy Glock-style feel?

No contest.

1911 all the way.

(P.S., Glock ergonomics and/or grip angle do not bother me personally in the slightest--large hands--but some handguns definitely offer a more ergonomic grip, and I can understand how some folks dislike their "blocky" feel.)

:cool:

speeedracerr
02-15-2012, 6:54 AM
As an owner of both the HK USP 45 and Colt Gold Cup I would have to say...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314554_2388844204446_1351062048_2871436_4102348_n. jpg

All dressed up in some Dragon Pearl Grips and in Ultimate Stainless Steel :)

Capt_Communist
02-15-2012, 7:16 AM
1911 all day long

Saym14
02-15-2012, 8:59 AM
for the price of most good 1911's you could pick up a HK45 by sinble shot exemption. I would get the HK45.

R1K
02-15-2012, 9:28 AM
My next handgun is going to be a .45 ACP. I've narrowed it down to two. No tactical reasons, just pleasure.

Hk USP Compact = SHTF

Colt Gold Cup = PLEASURE



IMHO. I own both.

Sniper3142
02-15-2012, 11:29 AM
I've got a USP 45 compact and a 1911.

Both are great guns and loads of fun to shoot.

The 1911 will be more accurate and possibly easier to shoot.

The USPc will be more reliable.

Both have 8 and 10 round magazines available. The standard USP45c does not come with night sights. And the rail is a proprietory design requiring an adapter to use most lights & lasers.

So your answer is simple...

GET BOTH!

bloodhawke83
02-15-2012, 12:05 PM
I got a 1911A1 1944 colt, never failed me.

Thomas1190
02-15-2012, 12:14 PM
The Colt 1911 for sure. When I take all my guns out shooting, my Colt 1911 gets the most action. People even compliment the Colt more than any other firearm, they always want to see it and love it. Its fun and easy to shoot. Its a work of art and soo classy :D

Even when im at home not shooting, I cant help but stare and fondle it :43:

markman42
02-15-2012, 1:19 PM
Your going to end up with both so id p/u the colt first before the price gets way jacked up

bigmike82
02-15-2012, 1:23 PM
My USP can outshoot my 1911 any day (though only because my 1911 is a crappy SA GI one).

It's far more comfortable than a 1911 (as I have big hands) and the accuracy is amazing. The 1911s are cool, but the USP is, in my limited experience, a much better gun.

Ak714
02-15-2012, 1:51 PM
Tough decision... Get both
I chose the Hk USPc 45
Get into the hk45 or hk45c
OC armory can hook you up

Xtracrispy
02-15-2012, 2:17 PM
FWIW, I have a Sig 1911 and my buddy has a USP.45. His gun is a great shooter, but I prefer my 1911. The USP seems kinda plasticky to me, more than most polymer pistols.

The USP was in my lineup when I was shopping for a pistol, and the feel of it dissuaded me from wanting one.

Not saying its not a great gun, because it is. Easier to field strip, more reliable(1911's seem magazine-picky), and accurate. I just would not have been able to stand owning it based on how it feels.

RUSSIAN
02-15-2012, 3:41 PM
Metal vs. Plastic?

No contest.

Crisp single action trigger vs. [Insert description of HK trigger here]?

No contest.

Perfectly balanced, ergonomically ideal vs. top-heavy Glock-style feel?

No contest.

1911 all the way.

(P.S., Glock ergonomics and/or grip angle do not bother me personally in the slightest--large hands--but some handguns definitely offer a more ergonomic grip, and I can understand how some folks dislike their "blocky" feel.)

:cool:


The only thing that an HK and glock have in common is plastic. The USP feels and shoots nothing like a glock.
Most HK fans feel that the USP is HK's version of a modern, updated 1911. The trigger is WAY better on a 1911, IMHO the mag release is far better on HK's. Take down is stupid simple on a USP, and most people can successfully swap trigger variants on HK's with some direction(or HK will do it). So the answer is.... Get both!:43:

96740
02-15-2012, 4:47 PM
Everyone seems to be leaning the same way I am. It also looks like almost every manufacturer makes a version/copy of the 1911.

cannon
02-15-2012, 4:59 PM
Everyone seems to be leaning the same way I am. It also looks like almost every manufacturer makes a version/copy of the 1911.

Yes they all make copies. Colt makes the original. Quit wasting time and go out and get a Colt Gold Cup. ;)