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l337viton
02-14-2012, 2:32 PM
Hi Everyone,

I've inherited a really rough Winchester 1895 from my grandfather. I'm not really sure when or how he got it but I'd like to know a little more about this rifle. Its in very rough shape and the buttstock is cracked. It looks like someone tried to repair the stock with some small nails and wood glue a while back.

What I would like to know is when the rifle was manufacturer and if it is worth anything in the state that it is. I know Winchester has "re-released" rifles so I'd like to find out if this is an original or a modern replica. If its a replica I might take on the challenge to clean it up, replace the stock, and take it out shooting!

I know its a Winchester 1895 chambered for 30-40 Krag. Its the shorter carbine version.

I haven't been able to find a serial number on the easily accessible areas so far. So far I have seen:

Manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Co.
New Haven Conn. U.S.A PAT Nov.5.95 Nov.12.95 Aug.17.97 Jan.25.98 Aug.23.98

on the receiver.

Anyone know anything more about these rifles? Thanks!

Pictures:
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Yemff
02-14-2012, 3:41 PM
I you have the serial # you can try here for a date of manufacture

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=410211

l337viton
02-14-2012, 3:46 PM
I haven't been able to find a serial number on it.

Anyone know where they are usually stamped?

eightmd
02-14-2012, 4:00 PM
I have one of those also. I was just looking for the serial number and couldn't find it. I didn't want to take off the top forestock, but it must be under there. Mine was my fathers and he recorded the serial number so I know there is one somewhere.

l337viton
02-14-2012, 4:07 PM
Ok thanks for that tip!

Under where the forestock would be is "SN A"

Pictures:

http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac329/l337viton/Winchester%201895/IMG_20120214_160302.jpg

http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac329/l337viton/Winchester%201895/IMG_20120214_160249.jpg

Sorry for the crappy pictures. Appreciate all the help so far.

l337viton
02-14-2012, 4:12 PM
Found another set of numbers on the bottom side of the receiver where it mates with the buttstock.

I think it reads "271"

Pictures:

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l337viton
02-14-2012, 4:20 PM
Alright sorry for posting so much. A little steel wool has revealed the following number which i believe is a serial number. The serial is "271XX" The "XX" was being obscured by some rust and grime.

l337viton
02-14-2012, 4:21 PM
According to http://oldguns.net

The year of manufacture for serial number 271XX is 1900.

TRAP55
02-14-2012, 5:15 PM
A 1895 Carbine 30/40, oldguns and Madis got one right on the serial.:)
Bronze wool and Kroil or ATF on the rust, edge of a copper penny on the bad stuff.
Piece of burlap soaked in linseed to scrub the stock.
Looks like the stock was broke at the wrist?
Get it cleaned up, and get me a better pic of the break, I know someone that can fix that where you'll really have to look to find it.

l337viton
02-17-2012, 6:05 PM
I found copper wool at the grocery store. Can I use that instead of bronze wool?

TRAP55
02-17-2012, 10:03 PM
Ace Hardware carries the bronze wool. The copper wool from a grocery store is for scrubbing pots and pans, and it's most likely copper plated whoknowswhat.

tankerman
02-18-2012, 8:53 PM
Looks pretty rough. probably needs to have the buttstock repair so it fits the tang better.

That type of repair is fairly straight forward and almost totally invisible.


BTW - I love my Win 1895.

John Browning
02-18-2012, 9:57 PM
Looks like the barrel is cut down and a new front sight installed and the front barrel band is missing. It looks like a very early 4 digit. Clean it up and shoot it. Not really in collector condition, but in perfect shape for a banger. The. 30 US is. 30-40 Krag.

v/dBrink
02-19-2012, 12:37 AM
Need photos:

- rear sight
- buttplate (remove that rubber thing)

It is not a 4 digit s/n. Flatside models s/n ran to 5000. This is not a flatside model. Early models had a one piece loop lever. This one has a 2 piece.

It does have the 1st of 4 upper tang markings with: Winchester Model 1895. This according to Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms 7th edition.

The rear sight appears to be of a military type. Show us a photo of the rear sight from the top and side, por favor.

Though I don't own a 1895 Winchester now I have owned one in the past, a take-down .30-06 from near end of production. Wonderful and very cool rifles.

Standard carbine barrel length not listed for .30 Gov't. Length was 22". With or without saddle ring. Carbines had a handguard.

Show more photos!

l337viton
02-19-2012, 8:24 PM
I already broke it down for a deep deep cleaning but I'll try to get some pictures up once its all put back together. Looks like its missing top part of the foreend.

Does anyone know of a good place to get the metal parts re-blued in San Diego?