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Steyr_223
03-29-2007, 10:32 AM
I know it's not a good idea to drive around with an OLL AR with loaded mags in the same trunk.

However, can I have ammo on strippers with guides along with empty mags and an OLL rifle? Are 7.62x39 or 5.56x45 on strippers ok to have in the same trunk as my OLL rifle and emplty mags?

Thanks.

S

FreedomIsNotFree
03-29-2007, 10:36 AM
You can have loaded mags or strippers just make sure they are not attached to the gun in any manner.

If you are interested in the applicable law here you go...
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=19006029563+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

If you become familiar with this section of law you will understand many of the intricacies of CA gun law.

hoffmang
03-29-2007, 10:36 AM
If your firearm is seperate from your loaded magazines, it is in the trunk, and you are not a known gang member you are safe under People v. Clark to use that as a trunk gun.

Your risks, to the extent they exist, are more about OLL confusion than the misapprehensions that loaded magazines = loaded rifle.

Here is the case: http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/People-v-Clark-(1996).pdf

FreedomIsNotFree
03-29-2007, 10:37 AM
Gotcha...must have been a matter of seconds....

FreedomIsNotFree
03-29-2007, 10:40 AM
Just to add some sarcasm....

Your question dealt with 5.56 ammo in an automobile....just realize that the information provided thus far dealt soley for 5.56/.223 ammo...if you start talking 7.62/.308 or even some hefty pistol calibers like .45 and the like its a whole different ballgame....:)

Astig Boy
03-29-2007, 10:46 AM
Note: If your a "documented" gang member, different rules apply. :)

bwiese
03-29-2007, 10:56 AM
You can have loaded mags or strippers just make sure they are not attached to the gun in any manner.

Whaddya mean, I can't let strippers handle my gun?

:)

scootergmc
03-29-2007, 11:00 AM
Whaddya mean, I can't let strippers handle my gun?

:)

Just loaded strippers. Which is probabaly why they're strippers in the first place...:D

AJAX22
03-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Does membership here at Cal guns constitute being in a 'gang'? ;)

Steyr_223
03-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Does anyone have pictures of loaded strippers?

:)


Thanks for clearing this up.

S

oaklander
03-29-2007, 11:11 AM
http://www.mccormicktools.com/thumb.php?id=11472677981

FreedomIsNotFree
03-29-2007, 11:13 AM
Whaddya mean, I can't let strippers handle my gun?

:)

Exactly bill....if there is a relationship that has developed between your gun and stripper(s), under current CA law, then you have committed a crime. I mean, guns and strippers are dangerous enough on their own, but put them together, allow them to become attached to eachother, and you have a recipe for disaster.

FreedomIsNotFree
03-29-2007, 12:29 PM
Here is an example of what can happen when strippers and guns are mixed together....

New Mexico Recruit Finds Strippers and Guns Do Not Mix
http://mountain-west.aolsportsblog.com/2007/01/16/new-mexico-recruit-finds-strippers-and-guns-do-not-mix/


Posted Jan 16th 2007 11:43AM by Brian Grummell
Filed under: Mountain West, NCAA FB Campus, NCAA FB Recruiting, General CFB Insanity, NCAA FB Police Blotter, NCAA FB Scandal

In general terms, the mixing of naked women and alcohol constitutes a good time for most young men. Ideally that means a romantic dalliance or an evening with the wife/girlfriend but if a strip club is the vehicle for that, cool I guess.

Unfortunately for 20-year-old New Mexico recruit Ervin 'Una' Smiley, good times didn't roll during a Dec. 9 visit to the New Mexico campus and after-hours jaunt to a nearby gentlemen's club.
[Smiley] suffered four gunshot wounds that severed a nerve in his right leg during an official recruiting visit to UNM in December.

Smiley and three UNM players hosting his visit got into an argument with two men as they were leaving the Spearmint Rhino Gentleman's Club, 1645 University Blvd. N.E., around 2 a.m. Dec. 9.

Erminio Gonzalez, 26, has been charged with firing 17 bullets at the athletes as they fled the strip club parking lot.
It would seem to be that an evening spent in the company of naked women would constitute a good time. Ok, an expensive but good time. But who is demonic and twisted enough to bring a gun to the joint, get heated up, get into an argument and try to kill some random people? How does one go from lap dances and joyfully throwing singles everywhere to shooting someone in a short period of time? This boggles the mind.

Smiley ended up taking several bullets, causing serious injury and battles with red tape.
Smiley already should have undergone surgery on his right leg, a procedure that will determine whether he can ever walk normally again.

He suffered four gunshot wounds that severed a nerve in his right leg.
Now he and his mother are threatening to sue the school if he is not taken care of.
"I did get a call back from the nerve specialist who was working with me and helping me get set up for the surgery. They wanted to know who was going to pay my medical bills. I can only assume the doctors doing the surgery are waiting to find out how they are getting paid before they do anything else."

Smiley said UNM football coaches assured him the school will pay for all his medical expenses.

"I told the coaches what was going on and they promised they'd take care of everything," Smiley said. "I still believe them, but it's really hard because I expected to have the surgery already and figure out whether I'd ever get a chance to play again.
This is both sad and absurd. Hopefully Smiley can recover and the parties can amicably find their way through all of this but it isn't looking good.

Super_tactical
03-29-2007, 12:35 PM
Erminio Gonzalez...

rips31
03-29-2007, 4:31 PM
Whaddya mean, I can't let strippers handle my gun?

:)

lol...bill, i'm not sure we needed to know what your nickname is. :p

elsolo
03-30-2007, 6:32 AM
Being legal is necessary, avoiding harassment by LEO's is almost as important. Keep it all out of view, some cops get really nervous seeing loose ammo rolling around on the floor of your vehicle.