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ckprax
02-08-2012, 11:26 AM
My understanding is that the feds do not consider traditional muzzleloaders to be firearms so they would be exempt from NFA. Does CA include muzzleloaders in it's SBS/SBR regulations?

Cabela's has a 20ga coach gun that it appears we could simply ship to our homes without any trouble. Would this run afoul of any of our wonderful laws?

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Traditional-Rifles-Shotguns|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104641380/Davide-Pedersoli-20-gauge-Double-Barrel-Coach-Shotgun/1278438.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshoo ting-black-powder-traditional-rifles-shotguns%2F_%2FN-1100202%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104641380%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat1047 92580%253Bcat104701680&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104701680%3Bcat104 641380

Coded-Dude
02-08-2012, 11:31 AM
Black powder guns are cash and carry. You can have it sent to your front door, or walk into a store and walk out with one in hand the same day. As far as I know.

Blood Ocean
02-08-2012, 11:58 AM
$900 is a little steep for two shots and a LONG reload time...

Scarecrow Repair
02-08-2012, 12:40 PM
$900 is a little steep for two shots and a LONG reload time...

But blackpowder is so much more than just cram in two shells and bang bang. The smell and smoke are worth something, and the relaxed shooting is a treasure.

InGrAM
02-08-2012, 12:43 PM
$900 is a little steep for two shots and a LONG reload time...

to each his own. Some people like the process of reloading their own ammo.

Mssr. Eleganté
02-08-2012, 12:46 PM
My understanding is that the feds do not consider traditional muzzleloaders to be firearms so they would be exempt from NFA. Does CA include muzzleloaders in it's SBS/SBR regulations?

Cabela's has a 20ga coach gun that it appears we could simply ship to our homes without any trouble. Would this run afoul of any of our wonderful laws?

California still considers them to be firearms and still considers them to be SBSs/SBRs, but they are exempt from California's restrictions on SBSs/SBRs. They are also exempt from California's dealer transfer requirement.

So both Federal and California law allow these to be shipped right to your door.

ckprax
02-08-2012, 12:52 PM
I guess I could have stated my question a little clearer. I understand that muzzleloaders can be shipped directly to my residence and they are cash and carry, i was just unsure if I could buy or manufacture a SBR or SBS as long as it is a muzzleloader. I do not intend to buy the coach gun but I thought it was interesting. I grew up shooting various black powder firearms so it peaked my interest, could be a fun range toy.

ckprax
02-08-2012, 12:52 PM
California still considers them to be firearms and still considers them to be SBSs/SBRs, but they are exempt from California's restrictions on SBSs/SBRs. They are also exempt from California's dealer transfer requirement.

So both Federal and California law allow these to be shipped right to your door.

Thanks, that was what I thought.