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axel4488
02-05-2012, 2:10 AM
I was told by someone today that stated and I quote:
"You do not need to go through an FFL to purchase a handgun/rifle when purchasing from a private party."

Now I know this is complete and utter FUD but I want to show the PC along with my argument so I can shove it in his liberal face that he is in fact, wrong again.

I tried searching and my google-fu is weak. I ask you, almighty Librarian to heed your search upon such a lowly computer user.

blakdawg
02-05-2012, 2:35 AM
Actually, that's the opposite of FUD - it's creating the illusion of safety where in fact the conduct described is a crime.

See Penal Code 27545, 28050.

Generally, don't argue with idiots, just ignore them.

Mssr. Eleganté
02-05-2012, 3:31 AM
Yep, that's the exact opposite of FUD.

Librarian
02-05-2012, 11:14 AM
blakdawg got it - see also the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Private_Party_Transfer

microwaveguy
02-05-2012, 11:26 AM
I was told by someone today that stated and I quote:
"You do not need to go through an FFL to purchase a handgun/rifle when purchasing from a private party."

Well their about 20 years behind the times.
I can see this from someone that hasn't been active in the sport for awhile.

CSACANNONEER
02-05-2012, 11:30 AM
`Long guns over 50 years old do not need to go through a FFL. All other firearms do.

alfred1222
02-05-2012, 12:12 PM
`Long guns over 50 years old do not need to go through a FFL. All other firearms do.

THIS. C&R is the only place cash and carry applies. for everything else, you need to go through an FFL

blakdawg
02-06-2012, 12:46 AM
Upon further reflection, I understand the reference to FUD - the person was an anti-, and they were spouting Brady nonsense about the "gun show loophole" without understanding that it hasn't applied to CA for 20+ years.

E Pluribus Unum
02-06-2012, 1:01 AM
`Long guns over 50 years old do not need to go through a FFL. All other firearms do.



THIS. C&R is the only place cash and carry applies. for everything else, you need to go through an FFL

Muzzle loaders are fair-game too... no FFL required.

axel4488
02-06-2012, 12:58 PM
Upon further reflection, I understand the reference to FUD - the person was an anti-, and they were spouting Brady nonsense about the "gun show loophole" without understanding that it hasn't applied to CA for 20+ years.

No its even worse. Guy owns a glock 45 and some wheel gun.

Blackhawk556
02-06-2012, 10:06 PM
Never heard of a glock 45

So a "long gun" that is 50+ years doesn't need to to through a ffl? So you mean my savage arms bolt action 30-06 has 47 years to go before I can sell it without going through a ffl? :) awesome

Sgt Raven
02-06-2012, 11:26 PM
Never heard of a glock 45

So a "long gun" that is 50+ years doesn't need to to through a ffl? So you mean my savage arms bolt action 30-06 has 47 years to go before I can sell it without going through a ffl? :) awesome

A .45ACP Glock most likely. :rolleyes:

Mssr. Eleganté
02-07-2012, 12:45 AM
...So a "long gun" that is 50+ years doesn't need to to through a ffl? So you mean my savage arms bolt action 30-06 has 47 years to go before I can sell it without going through a ffl? :) awesome

Right now, a C&R long gun that is over 50 years old can be transferred between two California residents without needing to involve an FFL. But starting in 2014 this exemption goes away. So by the time your Savage turns 50 you will have to transfer it through a dealer or sell it to a C&R FFL who also has a COE.