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Okami
01-31-2012, 11:28 PM
Looking to put together a 3 ring binder for my bound book.
I've been looking at leather portfolio organizers down to the 1/2 cheapie 3 ring binders. I would like it to be nice, but i'm open to see what you all use.

Thanks in advance!

Mr.Sandman
01-31-2012, 11:41 PM
This is what I use, it looks nice and serves its purpose:

http://www.amazon.com/BookFactory%C2%AE-Gun-Log-Book-LOG-120-GUN-02-LBT35/dp/B0062O9B5I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1328085591&sr=8-5

bigcasino
02-01-2012, 1:22 AM
I use a 3 ring binder with the plastic pages then i print out the form and slide it in the page. This way I can put copy of receipt or DL or C&R ect behind it and keep all the paperwork together but it is not as pretty as a factory book.

emcon5
02-01-2012, 5:18 AM
I use a 3 ring binder with the plastic pages then i print out the form and slide it in the page. This way I can put copy of receipt or DL or C&R ect behind it and keep all the paperwork together but it is not as pretty as a factory book.

I have been thinking of doing that for a while. Currently mine is a 3-ring binder, with 3 entries per page, and a wad of receipts/documents/FFLs tucked in a pocket on the back cover.

It would be pretty easy to convert, just take some time and a few bucks for the sheet protectors.

On edit, I was actually thinking more along the line of this: http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Write-Dividers-8-Tab-23079/dp/B001N40CB4

All the documents are letter sized, just punch the holes and put everything in the binder.

Bladeshark
02-01-2012, 5:42 AM
I use this one, but it isn't a 3 ring:

http://www.amazon.com/Curio-Relics-FFL-Bound-Book/dp/1606220047/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328107263&sr=8-2

C&Rtrader
02-01-2012, 6:12 AM
I use a cheapy 3 ring binder with tons of stuff packed on the pockets. it works. my entries are all very clear.

SkyStorm82
02-01-2012, 6:17 AM
I use what Mr.Sandman uses. It's a good bound book.

Okami
02-01-2012, 10:06 AM
These are all really great suggestions, please keep them coming if you like.
I just printed off some templates for the book. I've been checking out the Avery stuff at Office Depot with the one i'll likely get around $20.

Divernhunter
02-01-2012, 11:06 AM
I just bought mine from Brownells and it was not much especially with my C&R FFL. I also bought the personal firearm inventory package with has plactic slide in pages with a folded data page with roonm for all shorts of info and a photo as well as you can put the reciept/instruction manual etc in with each gun. They come in packs of 25 and are cheap and very good.

emcon5
02-01-2012, 11:14 AM
These are all really great suggestions, please keep them coming if you like.
I just printed off some templates for the book. I've been checking out the Avery stuff at Office Depot with the one i'll likely get around $20.

Something to consider (if your handwriting sucks as much as mine) is to fill them out on your computer, and print them as you need them.

littlejake
02-01-2012, 11:51 AM
Your A&D boundbook need only have the information required by regulation. I keep a separate ring binder with plastic sheet protectors to keep ancillary information regarding an Acquisition or Disposition. Examples are: the other party's license, receipts, documentation that I referred to that indicates age > 50 years, et cetera.

During an audit, you have a choice of showing your backup information. You are not required to show more than what's recorded in your A&D book.

Deadbolt
02-01-2012, 12:22 PM
I have 1 sheet of paper. 1 disposal on it. No acquisitions.

Money has been tight. Really bummed i still havent had the chance to get a CMP garand :(

edit: but I use this :

leather binder

https://pledesigns.com/images/binder_small.jpg

really fancy stuff for cataloging 1 FTF ppt :rofl:

CaliforniaLiberal
02-01-2012, 5:51 PM
RK Enterprises has a real nice package that includes a bound C&R Collectors book in the proper format and other useful stuff and information.

Gun Wholesaler List
FFL Copies Disposition Record
Collector Record Book
Personal Firearms Record Book
Multi-Weapon Transaction Record


You can call and make a credit card order by phone. The kit including the bound book and shipping was about $27

(805) 687-1416


Website under construction, not ready yet.

http://www.rkffl.com/

blackrat
02-02-2012, 9:26 AM
I've been using the little booklet that came with my C&R info package and of course keep all receipts and tags in my file cabinet. Are the bound books in this thread a requirement or something that you all are using because you go past (or intend to go past) the 10 item list that the booklet provides?

Deadbolt
02-02-2012, 10:27 AM
I've been using the little booklet that came with my C&R info package and of course keep all receipts and tags in my file cabinet. Are the bound books in this thread a requirement or something that you all are using because you go past (or intend to go past) the 10 item list that the booklet provides?

"yes" At least that was my assumption when I purchased the binder and made my bound book. Reality is : money got tight and i never even needed it (still havent made a purchase since I got it :( )

but if you have grand designs of collecting and you want to go about it in a regal fashion, then customized bound book is like putting rims on your chevy son :D

:cool2: :rofl:

paul0660
02-02-2012, 10:33 AM
Don't be too fancy; you do want to throw it away when your license expires.

TheExpertish
02-02-2012, 12:25 PM
I use this one, but it isn't a 3 ring:

http://www.amazon.com/Curio-Relics-FFL-Bound-Book/dp/1606220047/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328107263&sr=8-2

^This is what I have, but a composition notebook can do just as well.

novalondon
02-05-2012, 12:24 AM
RK Enterprises has a real nice package that includes a bound C&R Collectors book in the proper format and other useful stuff and information.

Gun Wholesaler List
FFL Copies Disposition Record
Collector Record Book
Personal Firearms Record Book
Multi-Weapon Transaction Record


You can call and make a credit card order by phone. The kit including the bound book and shipping was about $27

(805) 687-1416


Website under construction, not ready yet.

http://www.rkffl.com/


I have had an 03, then my 07 and now my 01FFLs and all have been done in the RK Books. I even use them for the gunsmith book and manufacturing books I had to keep. These folks are super to talk to and their products are 2nd to none. They even offer a personal firearms inventory book for your own so any loss is at your fingertips for info on any weapon you own.
You won't regret using their products.

Okami
02-05-2012, 12:52 AM
I ended up getting a Samsonite zippered 3 ring Binder Organizer from Office Depot.
Added some page frotectors to keep my forms in and puched bound book pages added to the rings. I'm sure it's a bit of overkill, but it didn't cost much, looks nice, and keeps the contents organized and secure. :)

morrcarr67
02-05-2012, 6:20 AM
I use a .99 cent 1/2" binder from Walmart and I made my own pages.

You are free to use mine if you like. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84435&d=1296762381 It is designed to be printed on both sides of the paper. Print pages 1 and 2 first. Then print pages 3 and 4 as many times as you like. If you want you "back" page to be blank print only page 3 on one sheet of paper to be your last page.

Too Slow
02-05-2012, 9:35 AM
Ditto on this one. It is really nice and neat and keeps great track.



This is what I use, it looks nice and serves its purpose:

http://www.amazon.com/BookFactory%C2%AE-Gun-Log-Book-LOG-120-GUN-02-LBT35/dp/B0062O9B5I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1328085591&sr=8-5

Clipity
02-05-2012, 2:35 PM
Something to consider (if your handwriting sucks as much as mine) is to fill them out on your computer, and print them as you need them.

+1 here.

Took the PDF file that is floating around and converted it to a Word docx now can type everything up and print it out.

emcon5
02-13-2012, 12:24 PM
I picked up some of these, and did some Bound Book maintenance over the weekend.

http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Write-Dividers-8-Tab-23079/dp/B001N40CB4

I kept the current 3 entries per page from the MS Excel template, but added tabs in back for each entry for the documentation for each item.

Much more organized for the $1.50 price.

Mr.Sandman
02-13-2012, 2:01 PM
If you are just going to buy a few rifles and let your license expire I could understand going the route that many here have. However if you feel like you are going to maintain your interest in collecting and are going to be spending thousands of dollars on your collection over your lifetime then why not get a "real" bound book.

Spending 30 dollars or whatever on a real bound book that will establish a good first impression should you ever be audited by the BATF makes it even more valuable to me than just for logging my collection. Plus having 826 available entries on acid free archival paper means I will most likely never need another one in my lifetime.

emcon5
02-13-2012, 2:33 PM
I guarantee my neatly typed, laser printed pages will make a better impression than my chicken-scratch handwriting, even if the "real" bound book was leather bound, gem-encrusted with pages made of 500 year old vellum.

winnre
02-13-2012, 2:40 PM
I guarantee my neatly typed, laser printed pages will make a better impression than my chicken-scratch handwriting, even if the "real" bound book was leather bound, gem-encrusted with pages made of 500 year old vellum.

Makes me want to learn Olde English from a Tibetan Monk and make a bound book for the ages.