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jseiwert
01-31-2012, 11:33 PM
hi, I am new to the whole gun scene and this forum. I am wanting to build a CA legal AR rifle but I have a few questions. 3 years ago I was charged with possession of marijuana under 1oz, In court the judge offered me a PC1000 course to have my charges dismissed. I completed the course and the charges were dismissed after my last court date. Will my background disqualify me to purchase a rifle? I have used the search bar but could not find anything related. Any information you guys might have is appreciated!

pacifico23
01-31-2012, 11:41 PM
In pretty sure weed in California is just a misdemeanor when under 1oz. You should be g2g

iamgbot
01-31-2012, 11:46 PM
I think its under 1 gram.

prkprisoner
01-31-2012, 11:47 PM
Marijuana possession under one ounce is currently an infraction.

Dead*Reckoned
01-31-2012, 11:48 PM
Isn't one of the questions on the 4437 on marijuana?

WASR10
01-31-2012, 11:51 PM
You're good to go, man. Don't forget to post pics!!

jseiwert
01-31-2012, 11:56 PM
thanks for the reply's! I figured i would just go ahead and give it a shot, the only thing I would lose is the background fee lol

Dingoguns
02-01-2012, 12:00 AM
From the form 4473 itself:

"Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"

Please note that previous use is not mentioned. Since your previous crime was an infraction and was dismissed anyway (as has already been mentioned), you are indeed good to go.

FreedomIsNotFree
02-01-2012, 1:45 AM
You said the case was dismissed. There is no conviction to consider. Have fun building up your AR. It's addicting.

deebix
02-01-2012, 1:59 AM
You are unconvicted and thus a freeman in the eyes of the law. Stay away from that crap, adds no benefit to your life and forces you to always look behind your back.

WASR10
02-01-2012, 3:07 AM
You are unconvicted and thus a freeman in the eyes of the law. Stay away from that crap, adds no benefit to your life and forces you to always look behind your back.

+1! AR building is a much better use of your time ;)

jseiwert
02-01-2012, 8:50 AM
I am no longer a user, I quit after I completed the pc1000 program. I realized it is absolutely not the lifestyle I plan to live. I have found other hobbies and now I'm excited for the build! I'll be sure to post pics. Thanks for all the support.

GrizzlyGuy
02-01-2012, 11:07 AM
I am no longer a user, I quit after I completed the pc1000 program. I realized it is absolutely not the lifestyle I plan to live. I have found other hobbies and now I'm excited for the build! I'll be sure to post pics. Thanks for all the support.

You're good to go and can truthfully check NO as the answer to the 4473 form's 'are you an unlawful user' question. 9th circuit addressed this back in 2001 in United States v. Purdy (http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1040384.html) so they have your back. More info on their decision is here (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=4927996&postcount=100).

Dutch3
02-02-2012, 4:08 AM
I am no longer a user, I quit after I completed the pc1000 program. I realized it is absolutely not the lifestyle I plan to live. I have found other hobbies and now I'm excited for the build! I'll be sure to post pics. Thanks for all the support.

Don't you mean you quit when you started the PC1000 program? Using drugs while in a drug diversion program would obviously be a violation of the terms of the program and your probation.

Just saying.

deebix
02-02-2012, 7:32 AM
There is no probation. He was not found guilty.

jseiwert
02-02-2012, 9:33 AM
Sorry, I meant I quit before it. They drug and alcohol test you while you are in the program.

TwinStick
02-02-2012, 9:54 AM
You're good to go, man. Don't forget to post pics!!

Pics of his weed?

alexf2k9
02-02-2012, 9:59 AM
Pics of his weed?

LOL, I'm pretty sure he was requesting pics of the AR after its built.

madjack956
02-02-2012, 10:05 AM
You are unconvicted and thus a freeman in the eyes of the law. Stay away from that crap, adds no benefit to your life and forces you to always look behind your back.


You need to add a Southern drawl, and maybe tell him to get a haircut too.:)

lpspinner
02-02-2012, 10:16 AM
I am no longer a user...


I hate to tell you this, but you're going to be/already are addicted to a new drug. You can't build just one AR! It's an addiction! :)

Good luck and have fun!

626Tony
02-02-2012, 10:28 AM
You're fine my buddy had the same charges now he has 6 ar15 s

GTXR390
02-02-2012, 2:02 PM
had a buddy who got caught with weed (tryna smoke a joint at the park LOL). he got a ticket, had to take a class...i heard he's now a LEO :)

626Tony
02-02-2012, 3:35 PM
You're fine my buddy had the same charges now he has 6 ar15 s

but he would not mess up again cause next time ...i dunno what will happen food for thought !! good luck and buy that lower !

shy 7th
02-02-2012, 5:07 PM
+1! AR building is a much better use of your time ;)

Though both are equally as destructive to your wallet.

Ron-Solo
02-02-2012, 7:36 PM
There is no probation. He was not found guilty.

No, to qualify for diversion programs you have to plead guilty or no contest. Upon completion of the program, the charges are dismissed. Big difference! If he was found not guilty at trial, he wouldn't have been required to a program.

He is good to go!

mossy
02-02-2012, 7:55 PM
your in CA. a small amount of weed is no big deal here, you are g2g

ramathorn
02-02-2012, 8:11 PM
Just go try. The DOJ will let the FFL know if its a problem. I doubt it'll be an issue. :)

IrishPirate
02-02-2012, 8:16 PM
drug dealers have guns, and you can only buy guns from a shop, so you should be ok!!!


sorry, couldn't resist....you're good to go though, so long as you're not still getting high

huntercf
02-02-2012, 9:16 PM
I hate to tell you this, but you're going to be/already are addicted to a new drug. You can't build just one AR! It's an addiction! :)

Good luck and have fun!

+1000 on that, you might even get infected with the AK bug as well. The diversion program is similar to traffic court in that when completed the charges are dismissed like it almost never happened.

wnewton
02-03-2012, 3:04 AM
You are unconvicted and thus a freeman in the eyes of the law. Stay away from that crap, adds no benefit to your life and forces you to always look behind your back.

whateva, I do what I want. look behind your own back, i'll worry about my own benefits.

Bigtime1
02-03-2012, 4:10 PM
Though both are equally as destructive to your wallet.


Ya, but ARs are so much more practical. Just try to hold off a category four zombie invasion with a bag of ganja and a bong.

Junkie
02-03-2012, 4:34 PM
good point, if you get the zombies high they'll want to eat even more brains. they might not get up off the couch, though...

1911ZENSHOOTER
02-03-2012, 5:44 PM
Good things about the gun addiction is a) you will still have the gun. you can't say that about weed as it's turned into smoke. b) your gun may be resold after you have enjoyed it. again, you can't say that about weed.

Silverlake223
02-03-2012, 7:39 PM
Good for you bro, welcome aboard! This is a rather expensive but very rewarding hobby.

jseiwert
02-29-2012, 8:56 PM
just to update..everything went well and my build is in progress!
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k12/dc2integ/IMAG0231.jpg

radioman
02-29-2012, 9:54 PM
It's good see you got your lower, welcome to calguns and have fun with that AR. calguns has a flow chart to keep you out of trouble with the law, get it, read it, and build build build.

Curley Red
03-01-2012, 8:51 AM
Ya, but ARs are so much more practical. Just try to hold off a category four zombie invasion with a bag of ganja and a bong.

If your seeing zombies then your smoking the wrong stuff.:p

CHIEFone
03-01-2012, 11:28 AM
in the same boat as the OP. caught a DUI back in 2008, charged in 2009. small amount of herb on me, less than joint worth as well as concentrated, hash, less than a gram. court dismissed the marijuana, did DEJ program for the hash but probabtion doesn't end until april.

so after that i should be okay to purchase per previous posts right? since no charge shows for the drugs, just an arrest. since my program cleared me of charges, first offense. is that right?

there are a still a few firearms my heart desires but dont want to get flagged and have to lose my current firearms.

thanks for any further guidance that can be offered.

Deucer
03-01-2012, 11:41 AM
Congrats, you can buy guns. I got you this cake to celebrate:

http://content.mindcrap.com/gallery/picdump/111/32.jpg

CHIEFone
03-01-2012, 11:45 AM
^^^ hahahaaaa