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Mustang
01-30-2012, 3:53 PM
I glommed a rifle last week at an on-line auction. I went out on a limb because the price was really low...It was described as a "US Rockland 1903 A3 Rifle" (???)


What I'm hoping is that the auction house meant "Rock Island" 1903 and that the C stock has not been cut and the bore is good

Obviously the receiver has been D&T'd for the Redfield sight, the hand guard has been trimmed and the bolt handle has been ground.

It appears that there are some kind of mounting blocks affixed to the receiver and the barrel. The rear sight, but not the base, has been removed. The rear sight base looks like it is does not have the lightening cuts. I do not know whether the receiver is high or low number.

Like I said, I went out on a limb.

mes227
01-30-2012, 4:05 PM
Well, it's a nice looking piece, whatever it is.

freonr22
01-30-2012, 4:13 PM
Was it $150?

http://www.proxibid.net/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=1311&aid=24968&lid=7041669

Edit,

http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/u.s.-rockland-model-1903-a3-rifle-2-p-c6253cde55

I think they bought it first, then you bought it

Mustang
01-31-2012, 6:14 AM
Was it $150?

http://www.proxibid.net/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=1311&aid=24968&lid=7041669

Edit,

http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/u.s.-rockland-model-1903-a3-rifle-2-p-c6253cde55

I think they bought it first, then you bought it

I can't see the pictures in the Proxibid listing. If they are the same rifle, it would ease my mind a bit since the serial number mentioned in the Proxibid listing is a high number.

The PB listing advises that the rifle has a "Lyman" sight and mine has a Redfield, but those kind of mistakes are common at auction houses.

Better pics/description when it arrives.

emcon5
01-31-2012, 6:16 AM
That auction also says "No Sales to CA" (The proxibid one that is)

emcon5
01-31-2012, 6:35 AM
Those blocks are for Lyman/Unertl external adjustment scopes. Quick Google search turned up this old M70 with a Unertl scope.

http://www.texasbrigadearmory.com/m70.htm

I have a 513T with those blocks, I wish I could find a scope that fit them for less that the price of the rifle.....

Mike A
01-31-2012, 6:40 AM
If the price was low and the action is as pictured, the action and sights alone may be well worth the price. Looks like it could be made into an excellent sporter, or returned to military specs (or close) fairly easily. Don't see any permanent changes except extra holes for scope blocks and receiver sight; you can get a new bolt handle fitted if you want to return to milspec.

Looks like a sound limb to be out on.....

Flyin Brian
01-31-2012, 8:17 AM
I almost bid on one similar to that last week but the C stock had been cut out below the Redfield receiver sight, so it would have looked bad after removing the sight.

I hope yours is in good shape!! You could always sell half a dozen rifles and maybe a car and have enough money for an original Unertl scope ;)

Mustang
02-10-2012, 1:38 PM
The "Rockland 1903 A3" arrived today and as I hoped, it is a "Rock Island". Looks like I made out ok on this...it is high number and has a beautiful Sedgley barrel, gauging between "0" and "1" on the CMP muzzle gauge. Has the Unertl scope blocks mounted and the Redfield sight works well.

The bad news...the stock, which is a beautiful Springfield C stock looks like it has been cut short at the butt.

I'll post a range report shortly

Mssr. Eleganté
02-10-2012, 2:54 PM
Nice!

Time to pick up a vintage Unertl and turn it into an M1903A1 Sniper replica. :)

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/smallarms/KWjpg/1903Sniper.jpg

Blitzburgh
02-10-2012, 3:43 PM
Very nice indeed!

It's a shame that somebody cut the stock, but in the long run it looks like you got one heck of a deal! Beautiful rifle! Congrats!

Mustang
02-10-2012, 3:47 PM
Nice!

Time to pick up a vintage Unertl and turn it into an M1903A1 Sniper replica. :)

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/smallarms/KWjpg/1903Sniper.jpg

That's the plan

Mustang
02-10-2012, 3:48 PM
Very nice indeed!

It's a shame that somebody cut the stock, but in the long run it looks like you got one heck of a deal! Beautiful rifle! Congrats!

Thanks, blitz.

Mustang
02-14-2012, 12:06 PM
Sun came out and I was able to get a few pics of the bore...
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/grant729/03A3/011-1-1.jpghttp://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/grant729/03A3/012-4-1.jpg

joefrank64k
02-14-2012, 4:20 PM
Nice! That was some good climbing! ;)

Mustang
02-21-2012, 6:02 PM
Nice! That was some good climbing! ;)

Thanks, Joe

I got to the range last week and fired a few through my "out on a limb" rifle. I didn't want to waste much ammo, because I had to use the threaded hole that the aperture screws into as the rear "aperture". I tried to use a couple of my other apertures and they either wouldn't screw in far enough or were too large to operate the bolt with.

Fired a few @ 50 yards to make sure the windage on the sights was good...
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/grant729/targets/004-1-5.jpg

Moved the target back to 100 and got this...
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/grant729/targets/005-3-1.jpg

Without an aperture this was more of a Ghost ring sight than a target sight. I'm pretty sure that the flyers that went high were my fault. I usually do fine with the windage using aperture sights, but have some trouble reproducing the elevation aim from shot to shot.

Cessnapilot89
02-21-2012, 7:39 PM
Mustang, where are you located. If you want the sniper scope for that, I know where there is one in the bay area for sale

Mustang
02-21-2012, 11:32 PM
I'm in the Sacramento area and I would be interested.