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ThE_LoNgShOt
01-25-2012, 11:17 PM
I'm going to start competing in some rimfire competitions in the near future and want to settle on the right ammo. when I say best "value" I mean highest performance for the best price. I've researched a lot of high end ammo and am aware that I could easily spend north of $200 a brick for the ultra premium stuff, but I'm looking at staying under $100. I've read a lot of good things about RWS Rifle Match which is around $85 a brick. anyone else have any suggestions? oh, and I should probably mention I'm shooting a Savage Mark ii TR. also, does anyone know where I can get RWS ammo here in so cal? their website does not have a dealer locator option, and I've not been able to find it. thanks for any information you can provide.

peytonrandolph
01-25-2012, 11:36 PM
try some wolf match and see how your gun likes it.

its actually lapua and costs about $50 a brick, its all i shoot.

brassburnz
01-25-2012, 11:51 PM
You're going about this backwards. For a .22 rimfire, you find out which ammo it likes to shoot, then you go out and buy a case of ammo. Buy a variety of standard velocity ammo and see what shoots the best in your gun. Sometimes the cheaper ammo shoots just as well as the expensive stuff.

When I was shooting bullseye, I found that Wolf Match Target at $20 a brick shot almost as well as Eley Pistol Match at $80 a brick, so I just shot the Wolf Match Target. Then Wolf MT went up to 40 and 50 bucks a brick, so I had to find something else to shoot. I discovered that Aguila SE shot pretty well in my gun, not as accurate at Wolf MT, but it was only $20 a brick.

Aguila SE became my practice ammo and Wolf MT my match ammo. When my supply of Wolf MT runs out, I'll have to start looking at ammo again.

My hardcore bullseye friends even go so far as to request certain lot numbers when they order a case of ammo. They'll ask ahead of time how many cases of a certain lot are in stock. If the number of cases seems to be running low, they'll buy out whatever's in stock. I'm a crappy shot so it doesn't really matter that much to me.

G-forceJunkie
01-25-2012, 11:53 PM
Cant go wrong with wolf.

Thefeeder
01-25-2012, 11:59 PM
You're going about this backwards. For a .22 rimfire, you find out which ammo it likes to shoot, then you go out and buy a case of ammo. Buy a variety of standard velocity ammo and see what shoots the best in your gun. Sometimes the cheaper ammo shoots just as well as the expensive stuff.

When I was shooting bullseye, I found that Wolf Match Target at $20 a brick shot almost as well as Eley Pistol Match at $80 a brick, so I just shot the Wolf Match Target. Then Wolf MT went up to 40 and 50 bucks a brick, so I had to find something else to shoot. I discovered that Aguila SE shot pretty well in my gun, not as accurate at Wolf MT, but it was only $20 a brick.

Aguila SE became my practice ammo and Wolf MT my match ammo. When my supply of Wolf MT runs out, I'll have to start looking at ammo again.

My hardcore bullseye friends even go so far as to request certain lot numbers when they order a case of ammo. They'll ask ahead of time how many cases of a certain lot are in stock. If the number of cases seems to be running low, they'll buy out whatever's in stock. I'm a crappy shot so it doesn't really matter that much to me.

This ^^^^^^^ all the way. "Your gun" means that one rifle...not that make or model.

Trading 10 rounds or a 1/2 box with fellow shooters is a good way to find "the one" without spending a ton of money.

sholling
01-26-2012, 12:03 AM
The default for most people when getting started is Wolf Match Target or Match Extra because it's affordable and it works well in a lot of rifles. Wolf 22LR match ammo isn't cheap Russian plinking ammo like Wolf centerfire ammo. Wolf 22LR match ammo is good precision match ammo. The problem is that 22s are funny critters and two identical rifles produced the same day in the same factory may do best with completely different ammo. The only thing that you can do is buy a single 50rd box of each of 5-6 brands and models and see what shoots best in your rifle. I'd place an order with Midway just because they have a good selection (http://www.midwayusa.com/find?&newcategorydimensionid=10122). Only once you find out what your rifle likes best would I even think about buying a brick. Once you get really hardcore you may find yourself measuring and weighing each round and then sorting them. ;)

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1679162820/wolf-match-target-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1679337609/wolf-match-extra-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1392481355/eley-match-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1392216306/eley-target-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1392140858/eley-tenex-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1270117421/lapua-center-x-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/953268932/federal-premium-gold-medal-target-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2506116263/aguila-match-rifle-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-round-nose
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1297150660/rws-r-50-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain

The other thing to keep in mind is don't be cleaning your barrel too often and when you do follow up by shooting a dozen fouling rounds before shooting for accuracy. 22s shoot better with a moderately dirty barrel - yes really.

sholling
01-26-2012, 12:09 AM
try some wolf match and see how your gun likes it.

its actually lapua and costs about $50 a brick, its all i shoot.

I thought Wolf was rebranded SK, have they changed it? I've been away from rimfire for a while.

peytonrandolph
01-26-2012, 12:22 AM
I thought Wolf was rebranded SK, have they changed it? I've been away from rimfire for a while.

I've just gotten into rimfire over the past year or so and have always heard lapua. :shrug:

mkane
01-26-2012, 7:43 AM
Eley Team @ Killough's. More consistant than Wolf. Meets your pricepoint.

mixicus
01-26-2012, 8:03 AM
Brassburnz's post has it. There is no best ammo, only the best ammo for your rifle. .22 Rim Fires are very individual in this respect. Buy 10 or more 50round boxes of ammo with good reputations and try it out.

About 20 years ago, I was regularly shooting a Hammerli pistol. I found Remington standard velocity (green box) was shooting as well as most Eley and RWS loads but at 1/3 the price. Surprised me! Not saying it was the "best .22 ammo", it just worked really well in my pistol.

ThE_LoNgShOt
01-26-2012, 8:50 AM
thanks everyone, and point taken about finding the best ammo for my individual rifle. I just placed an order from Midway this morning for a mix of different rounds. got some of the Wolf, RWS, Eley, Lapua and SK. one more question though... I assume I should clean the barrel between each test?

kgcabs
01-26-2012, 9:01 AM
http://www.championshooters.com/store/product.php?productid=478&cat=316&page=1

sholling
01-26-2012, 9:03 AM
I assume I should clean the barrel between each test?
It'll take you a dozen or more fouling rounds to tighten up groups after each cleaning.

Izzy43
01-26-2012, 10:22 AM
Go here:http://www.championshooters.com/store/home.php?cat=284

There are several offerings by Eley, Wolf and Lapua that meet your price point. However there is no guarantee that any will shoot well in your rifle so best to buy a variety (1 box each) and test in your rifle. I find that my Savage Mk II BTVS loves Wolf MT, Wolf ME does no better at a higher price. It does not do well with Lapua-Center-X but my Kimber and CZ love it. Eley Club and Eley Target shot as well or better than Wolf MT. I have 6 different .22lr firearms and they all shoot Wolf MT very well. Can't say that about any other .22lr ammo that I have used although some ammo will shoot better in one of the rifles and not well in another.

I would suggest getting some CCI SV, you may find that locally and see how it shoots. Some have excellent results with it, other do not (me for instance) . Price is low but worth a try.

I have a difficult time finding any match quality ammo at my local gun stores. They seem content to sell bulk ammo to folks who want to blast away at cans. They will special order match ammo but the prices are outrageous so I always order from the link above.

rckjeep
01-26-2012, 11:00 AM
A buddy and I have been playing around with bulk as it applies to accuracy. Of course it's all subjective since every rifle is different, but so far CCI Blazer bulk has been the most accurate it's even on par with Federal Auto Match. In fact its actually a little better then FAM. Good luck in your matchs

only10x
01-26-2012, 11:08 AM
My rifles really like RWS Target, luckily I discovered this before their new prices kicked in (added $100 case) needless to say I stocked up :)

mkane
01-26-2012, 5:21 PM
Try some Eley Team, excellent stuff, a step below Match, uses the same lube as Match/Tenex. Wouldn't steer you wrong. Look @ Killough Shooting Sports, chaepest prices anywhere.

Rock6.3
01-26-2012, 5:55 PM
when testing ammo in rimfire rifles I like to shoot 25 rounds of the new ammo before I shoot a series of five test groups (5 shots per group) with the new ammo. (no not rapid fire, shoot as you would during a match). The 20 rounds are to move the bullet lube from the prior test ammo out of the barrel. This testing method uses one 50 round box per test.

TMcC
01-26-2012, 6:02 PM
I've tried several brands, versions, etc and my specific rifle seems to do well with wolf target match. Around $46 per 500. It's a little greasy for some reason, but fine. I really noticed a difference when I switched magazines one session from some generic winchester to the wolf. Soon as I did that, I was able to hit the barn. It was a great day.
Seriously:
It's been said many times before, try a few, see what your rifle likes. Specifically, try out in the rifle you're competing with.

G-forceJunkie
01-26-2012, 6:48 PM
Lapua make the Wolf and the SK standard plus.I thought Wolf was rebranded SK, have they changed it? I've been away from rimfire for a while.

covingtonhouse
01-28-2012, 8:55 PM
http://www.championshooters.com/store/product.php?productid=478&cat=316&page=1

+1 for Champion. Izzy knows his stuff too! I have a MkII BV that i did some pretty extensive testing when I first bought it. My resuts were as follows:
Eley Tenex, Lapua Midas +, RWS 50, Federal Ultramatch, RWS Rifle Match, and SK std +. Oddly enough, the Wolf didn't seem to perform in my rifle. It is made by Lapua, as is the SK supposedly on the same machines. Sportsmans Guide has the best price I've seen on RWS R50, and Champion sells SK std+ for $49/500 the last time I bought some. I ended up with about 1000 rds each of RWS R50, RWS rifle match, and SK std +. I occaisionally shoot the rimfire matches on this forum, and I usually shoot all three types and see which gives me the best results. I don't know if it's me, or what but it always seems to vary:confused:

covingtonhouse
01-28-2012, 8:58 PM
when testing ammo in rimfire rifles I like to shoot 25 rounds of the new ammo before I shoot a series of five test groups (5 shots per group) with the new ammo. (no not rapid fire, shoot as you would during a match). The 20 rounds are to move the bullet lube from the prior test ammo out of the barrel. This testing method uses one 50 round box per test.

And this is the method I used... at 50 yds with 1/2" orange squares on 1/10 graph paper. I also ran a bore snake through after each type. (I'm sure some will have a problem with this part)

shadow65
01-29-2012, 7:45 AM
I like Wolf MT. CCI standard velocity isn't bad for the price. Depends on what your rifle likes.
Dave N

john doe
02-02-2012, 7:32 AM
does anyone know how good the savage arms mark2 g model is??