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ns3v3n
03-19-2007, 9:52 PM
pretty bad ***, it's call the Kriss Super V, it's a full auto .45acp sub machine, reduced recoil with a new system in there. looks pretty bad ***. i'm trying to find a picture of it. hold on....

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=974

only one can find.

subject aside, is there a .45acp carbine out there? legal in california?

thefinger
03-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Yeah, I just saw it on discovery. Looks wierd, but wow.

Richard
03-19-2007, 10:10 PM
Yeah pretty good show....but that host is getting on my last nerve.:p

gunrun45
03-19-2007, 10:13 PM
Yep, there are several options out there.
You can do an OLL build with MM grip and Olympic arms 45 ACP upper (my current 45ACP carbine).
You can look very hard for a Marlin Camp 45 carbine (I've been looking for years for one without much luck).
You can build some OLL version of a Thompson.
You can have a Berretta Storm carbine converted to CA legal configuration in 45ACP.

I'm sure there are other options out there that others will chime in with.

Good luck in your venture and be sure to post pics when you finally get one!

Mssr. Eleganté
03-19-2007, 10:27 PM
subject aside, is there a .45acp carbine out there? legal in california?

One other option is the H&R Reising Model 60...

http://www.surplusrifle.com/reising60/graphics/full.jpg
photo from surplusrifle.com

It is the semi-auto/long barrel civilian version of the not very successful WWII submachinegun. But it's more expensive and harder to find than the Marlin Camp 45 that Gunrun45 mentioned.

proraptor
03-19-2007, 10:27 PM
That wasnt as cool as the full auto shotgun

oaklander
03-19-2007, 10:34 PM
http://images.military.com/stpics/SoldierTech_KRISS.jpg

cool...

NeoWeird
03-19-2007, 10:46 PM
http://images.military.com/stpics/SoldierTech_KRISS.jpg

cool...


Put a 16" barrel and a stock on it and it's one of the very few pistol grip rifles with a removable magazine legal in California.

leelaw
03-19-2007, 10:51 PM
Hmm.. does that pistol grip appear to protrude below that imaginary "action" line to anyone? Doesn't really look like it to me..

69Mach1
03-19-2007, 11:14 PM
Check it out live!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DsvbNfmBjQ0&mode=related&search=

Magpul was involved.
http://www.magpul.com/designgroup/kriss.html

mark3lb
03-19-2007, 11:54 PM
cool show. tivo it all the time.

thefinger
03-20-2007, 12:31 AM
Yeah pretty good show....but that host is getting on my last nerve.:p

If I hear him say "I think the results speak for themselves..." one more time, I'm gonna take my cetme to the cable box. :eek:

shin_en
03-20-2007, 12:36 AM
You can get an HK USC, but you'd have to modify it:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=356308

kilword
03-20-2007, 12:38 AM
Its cool the kriss takes glock mags

jerryb78
03-20-2007, 1:11 AM
If I hear him say "I think the results speak for themselves..." one more time, I'm gonna take my cetme to the cable box. :eek:

cable box...ok, but not the plasma screen!!!:D

jjperl
03-20-2007, 1:56 AM
I'm not to fond of the way the Chris looks, but the firepower was awesome.

Morales
03-20-2007, 2:52 AM
The sub machine gun designs keep getting more and more out there every year (Bison 100, P90), but this one is going for the bizzare gold. I'm glad some one brought up the Reising Model 50/60, based on its field use, it is the M16 of sub machine guns. By the way, its also good that the venerable .45 caliber is being resurected in the sub machine gun role, I though the Le France M16k was the last we would hear of it.

DedEye
03-20-2007, 3:20 AM
I'm not to fond of the way the Chris looks, but the firepower was awesome.

I don't watch the show for its host ;). This isn't Mythbusters (Kari) after all :p.

Geoffkoop
03-20-2007, 8:55 AM
That gun looks nice! I couldnt imagine shooting that expensive 45 ammo that fast. Good way to go broke.

dfletcher
03-20-2007, 9:03 AM
Looks neat - but it seems the bolt doesn't stay to the rear after the last shot is fired? Either that or it's supposed to & something's going wrong - the shooter looks a little surprised at the end of each burst.

NeoWeird
03-21-2007, 12:27 AM
Hmm.. does that pistol grip appear to protrude below that imaginary "action" line to anyone? Doesn't really look like it to me..

Sure does to me. Don't get action and trigger confused. Think of a 1919, the action is the bottom of the receiver action, not the bottom of the actuating trigger. In the firearm designed in the picture the barrel is just below the pistol grip, the action is behind the barrel and enclosed in the trigger/hand guard and then the grip protrudes above the action.


Looks neat - but it seems the bolt doesn't stay to the rear after the last shot is fired? Either that or it's supposed to & something's going wrong - the shooter looks a little surprised at the end of each burst.

He is intentionally, and in an exagerated manner to put an emphasis on safety, following safe firearm handling practices. It's always a good idea to check the action to make sure it is empty and not just a jam, light strike, dud, etc. Keep in mind that this particular clip is from their DVD, so it's an official statement from the company. Any 'negligence' on their part could mean trouble for them, so they have to go above and beyond normal demonstration to keep things nice, proper, and safe (in more than one way).

69Mach1
03-21-2007, 12:36 AM
It is a very interesting looking weapon.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/kriss5.jpg

Not sure if a cali legal version looks good though.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/kriss1.jpg
(My photoshop)

whatdyisit
03-21-2007, 12:56 AM
Unless that’s a fixed mag wouldn't you need to some more photo shopping on the grip/stock? If not you could throw that foregrip back on.

Yute
03-21-2007, 3:18 AM
IIRC the reason why they chose the .45acp was because the Kriss is a "proof of concept" so to speak - if they could make the weapon controllable with a .45acp, with its relatively heavy recoil, then it would demonstrate that the design worked. Thus they could scale the weapon up to other calibers.

I must admit I intially dismissed it as another weird but whacky weapons design when i first learned about it post shot show, thinking that wasn't anything particularly special until I watched the discovery channel program. Keep all the rounds on a target on full auto is definately a feat. The only thing I worry about is in the design is that more moving parts = greater chance at something going wrong. that said it is something to keep an eye on down the line!