Eye protection

[Mag_Rat]

Who does and does not use eye protection here?

I see a lot of people without eye protection at the range:confused: .I always forget them but I do use them....What about you?

[VeryCoolCat]

Who does and does not use eye protection here?

I see a lot of guy without eye protection at the range:confused: .I always forget them but I do use them....What about you?


I use them when I can. Because I wear glasses... most protection won't fit over my glasses so I bought some prescription sunglasses which I use as my shooting glasses.

Shooting protection can save your life. I've heard stories of items that have actually KNOCKED the protection off peoples faces and that if they weren't wear em. They would have been killed as it would have penetrated through their eye.

I mean sure... getting an eyepatch would really give you a "coolness" factor wherever you go and might even get ya the ladies, :D but the loss of debt perception and taking a driving/vision test every year to maintain your drivers liscence would suck.

Grammaton has a story of not using good shooting protection.

[Kruzr]

I have no problem with people who enter our range without hearing protection. Going deaf isn't an immediate process and I won't have to clean up any mess or make any emergency phone calls.

If I see any shooter without eye protection in the range, he or she will get yelled at immediately........the same amount of time it takes to lose an eye.

If I see them without eye protection again in the same visit, they get invited to come out of the range to read the rules.

If you've never been hit in the glasses by flying brass, you either aren't shooting a semi-auto or haven't been shooting long.

[ocabj]

I wear prescription glasses. I don't wear secondary eye protection. I'm putting some faith in the polycarbonate lenses if there is a catastrophic failure when I am discharging a firearm.

But standard prescription eyeglasses are more than enough for typical blowback.

[Black Majik]

I used to wear wire frame Oakleys (A-wire). Even that didn't offer enough protection. I had a piece of gunpowder/debris get in my eye even with those sunglasses.

Now I only wear the M-frames which protect more of my eyes and face. Good eyewear is a must.

[Blackwater OPS]

I wear prescription glasses. I don't wear secondary eye protection. I'm putting some faith in the polycarbonate lenses if there is a catastrophic failure when I am discharging a firearm.

But standard prescription eyeglasses are more than enough for typical blowback.

Same here. I got some lead spatter while shooting .44 magnums from a lever action last time at the range, cut my ear up. Not wearing eye protection is a really bad idea, but polycarbonate lenses are probably better than most of those plastic glasses for eye protection.

[Franksremote]

I've always got one pair of Oakleys or another on anyways so basically covered, but change to M-Frames when I remember for the extra protection.

[Aluisious]

Not wearing eye protection is great. It keeps opthomologists employed.

[rips31]

i wear the oakley si m-frames or si half jacket xlj's when i'm at the indoor range. sometimes i'll wear coloured lenses on the above, or oakley square wires outdoors.

i always wear eye protection...i've had an ejected casing slip between my m-frames. ugh...it wasn't pleasant. i've had several times where the casing bounces off the lens.

[M. Sage]

I wear prescription glasses. I don't wear secondary eye protection. I'm putting some faith in the polycarbonate lenses if there is a catastrophic failure when I am discharging a firearm.

But standard prescription eyeglasses are more than enough for typical blowback.

Same here. I'm honestly in more danger of having a problem at work, and put my faith in my prescription glasses there, too.

[montan]

Always wear eye protection. No reason why not.

Ear protection is optional for some people :-). I've seen a guy taking off his ear protection while somebody is shooting and I immediately told him to put it back. He replied. "I want to lose my hearing for a few days so that I don't have to hear my wife nag tonight".

I told my wife and she said "NOT FUNNY!"

[Jicko]

I've 2 sets of Oakley's M-frame.... and 4 different lens for indoor, outdoor, sunny and cloudy.... :p and to match my outfit....

One should always wear shades.... they just look cool.... :D

[MadMex]

I’ve come very close to losing each eye on separate occasions; once due to injury and once due to illness. I’m compulsive about eye protection; won’t even light a BBQ or do my yard work without some sort of eye protection. The practice has prevented 3 subsequent major injuries. Most people take their sight for granted until nearly losing it.

[ViPER395]

I will admit that I have NEVER used eye protection. I really want to, but I usually forget a pair of them at home (I have lots of pairs of industrial safetly glasses)

I've never had a problem, but it's not to say I won't.

I sometimes wear my sunglasses while shooting, I don't know if that would help or hurt more.

[jessegpresley]

I wear Wiley X G-Line shooting glasses. I like them because they most closely resemble a regular pair of sunglasses. I don't like Oakleys because they remind me of Oakley Razors, which are an abomination and some of the tackiest eyewear ever conceived. I think they do look good with a mullet, though.

The Wiley X sunglasses have removable lenses. I wear the dark lenses for outdoor shooting, the clear lenses for indoor. The dark lenses get darker in bright light, and lighter in low level lighting, so maybe you don't even need the clear lenses.

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[24_minutes_to_1000]

I wear Wiley X G-Line shooting glasses. I like them because they most closely resemble a regular pair of sunglasses. I don't like Oakleys because they remind me of Oakley Razors, which are an abomination and some of the tackiest eyewear ever conceived. I think they do look good with a mullet, though.

The Wiley X sunglasses have removable lenses. I wear the dark lenses for outdoor shooting, the clear lenses for indoor. The dark lenses get darker in bright light, and lighter in low level lighting, so maybe you don't even need the clear lenses.

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+1 on this entire post. Wiley-X glasses are simply great.

[tankerman]

I have no problem with people who enter our range without hearing protection. Going deaf isn't an immediate process and I won't have to clean up any mess or make any emergency phone calls.

If I see any shooter without eye protection in the range, he or she will get yelled at immediately........the same amount of time it takes to lose an eye.

If I see them without eye protection again in the same visit, they get invited to come out of the range to read the rules.

If you've never been hit in the glasses by flying brass, you either aren't shooting a semi-auto or haven't been shooting long.

Deafness is immediate if I shoot my ported 454 next to the guy.

[Greg-Dawg®]

Outdoors I wear my Oakleys and indoors my perscription glasses.

They are a neccessity.

[Loner]

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[moulton]

my Rx glassses proably saved my eve from being burned today. There was a dude with his daughter shooting a mini-14 to the left of me and I stood up to grab somthing out of an ammo can when a .223 shell came flining over at me and hit the rim of my glasses.... not my eye:o

[JimAmentler]

I always wear eye protection when shooting. Unfortunately, as I've gotten older I find myself having to use eyewear off the range and well as on. I use Oakleys when shooting. They make prescription lenses for the M frames, so no problem trying to fit shooting glasses over my prescription lenses.

[tujungatoes]

I cought a ricochet fragment in the forehead because I happened to be looking down. If I'd been looking up and not wearing glasses, I'd be a pirate for halloween every year. Hell...I'm already half deaf(60% loss) in my right ear from shooting without plugs one day.

Now I wear eyes and ears ALWAYS!

[aznglocker]

If you shoot matches using steel plates you become a fast learner especially when witnessing a person get a piece of frag inbedded in their face.

[jbsocal]

I agree with wearing eye protection as I've been hit in the face from another's person's fragmented shots while at the range. Sometimes, the bullet fragments go everywhere. And I can't tell you how many times I've been hit in the head with shells.

[Mute]

I've tried a number of prescription sunglasses including Oakley M Frames. I've recently started using Rudy Projects and they're by far the best I've tried in terms of build quality, comfort and quality of the lenses.

[Altahick]

i dont like wearing eye protection, because i dont have any good ones, and i hate the bulky kind they rent at the range, but prolly by the next time i go shooting i am going to buy some nice ones that fit more like sunglases, i never shoot without ear protection hurts my head, especially if u have ever shot at the lincon range, the roof is only like 9 or 10 feet tall and it is really loud there.

[sorensen440]

Up untill today I wore sunglasses when I had them on but now it will be any time I shoot
After pulling a couple small pieces of brass out of my nose I looked at the freshly ejected case from my 416 Rem and noticed the bottom had blown out in a few places
Saftey glasses are important!!

[C.G.]

They would not let you shoot without glasses at my local range.

[Rem1492]

I swear by Oakleys. This pair saved my eye from x54 shrapnel, the rest of the shrapnel went into my face, arm and hands.
The M44 double fed and tapped a round off when not chambered, blew the rifle and me sky high.

Here you can see the lenses, the damage to me and the back of the case that was pulled out of my hand, the bullet is flatnosed because it was pushed out of the barrel with a cleaning rod later.

Oakley has a good government program if you guys are interested. As for Wiley Xs, my unit bought a whole bunch, they are a LOT cheaper than oakleys so oakley missed out on several million$$$ of gov contract but also, they are a bit -cheaper, as in design, fit and quality. I really dont like the Wiley Xs I got.

stay safe.

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[Blackwater OPS]

M44 double feed!?! You are either really lucky or really unlucky, I'm not sure which.:confused:

[NSR500]

I've been using my Prescription glasses under some real generic range type stuff. Now that I have contacts I'd like to step up to some Wiley-X, does anyone know who carries Wiley-X in the NorCal Bay Area?

[Rem1492]

The M44 extractor was bad, a live round was in the chamber, as you know the Nagant chamber shield covers the view of it well, so you cant just simply look from above to see if a round is chambered or not as you can with an AR or AK. A live round was fed, that round stuck, the bolt pulled back, the gun handed to me. I fed a live round and it slammed right into the back of the current live round in the chamber. We deduced this because of the different colors of shrapnel and different ammunition we were using.

The explosion cost me $5000 in payments as I had no insurance and was not an illegal alien so I had to pay for my medical care. It was a costly experience but luckily I only had minor nerve damage and my eyes were saved from burning gunpowder and brass shrapnel. It took me 7 years to get over that and finally touch a bolt action again. Paranoia=safety.

Lesson learned, EYE protection is a must. Ear protection is dependant on sound levels and hand protection (gloves) is also an option. I use nomex leather flying gloves from now on, stops touching burning barrels or shrapnel in hand by accident.

the KEY for eye protection is the ANSI z85 rating for ballistic impact. Dont get a cheapo $5 pair of walmart or target sunglasses, though they would be better than nothing, dont think they would be the same as safety glasses.

Also think about skin coverage, Oakley lenses cover a lot depending on the cut, some other glasses are thin and small, cool looking but they wont block that errant brass case or ricochet to your cheekbone. Oakley also sells Laser optics on the military site but thats a whole other story.

A lot of guys prefer WileyXs because they have a strap that under your helmet really gets the glasses tight on you whereas oakleys only have arms that can slide or cause headaches from squeezing your ears and head for too long. In anycase, eyewear is not cheap and should seriously be considered by any shooter. Try them out like trying new shoes in a store.

Oakley has special green lenses for shooting (dont use them to drive though), check em out.

[Blackwater OPS]

I bet you will always check the chamber of a weapon handed to you now as well...

[Rem1492]

I bet you will always check the chamber of a weapon handed to you now as well...

lessons learned :) from that paranoia I also carry my sidearm with no round in the chamber although regulations state we should be chambered. I just make up for it by having the hammer cocked so I can rack the slide quickly if need be. I am sure if I wind up in downtown Khafji in the middle of a Clint Eastwood shootout I will have wished one was in the chamber, but otherwise it makes peace of mind.

[cseabass]

it honestly depends on what im doing. i hate cheap eye-pro. and right now i cant afford the good ****, so i dont wear it(though if im close to the plates in the range, i wear it for fear of catching splatter frags. out doors, i have a pair of sunglasses that are saftey rated but, i dont like the coverage, but its better than nothing.
when i get another good pair, ill probly wear them all the time.

[cseabass]

I've been using my Prescription glasses under some real generic range type stuff. Now that I have contacts I'd like to step up to some Wiley-X, does anyone know who carries Wiley-X in the NorCal Bay Area?

We carry them at TMW.

[jmlivingston]

At my last eye appointment I paid the extra to take my prescription glasses from a regular lense to the safety lense. It only cost something like an extra $50 or so, and I made sure the frames I chose (Persol model 2224) were large enough to provide adequate protection. Many of the current style of frames that are popular have too small a lense area to provide enough protection, the ones I chose aren't "wrap-around" by any means, but they do extend towards the side of the eye as well as having a nice fit around the brow. I've been real happy with them, but I haven't had any shrapnel hits to test them out with either.

John

[jmlivingston]

I use nomex leather flying gloves from now on, stops touching burning barrels or shrapnel in hand by accident.


That's an excellent idea! They're lightweight with a snug fit covering the wrist. Wish I still had a pair from the days I was a crewman on UH-1's. I may just need to go buy a pair now.

John

[Smokeybehr]

Eyes and ears every time for me. I haven't had anything catastrophic, but I've come back from the range many times with an unexplained laceration somewhere on my body.

[grammaton76]

Careful with Wiley-X... mine fog up within SECONDS of putting them on.

I've got some anti-fog coating stuff to apply to it, however I'm still trying to get it to the point where the coating's light enough not to blur my vision, yet heavy enough to prevent them from fogging up.

As for the BS about "just spit in it and rub it around" - NO, that DOES NOT WORK for how little air flow the Wiley-X's get. Spit is just flat-out not effective.

[Rob454]

I have a set of clear Oakleys and a coupel of pairs of clear lens and yellow lens wanna be oakley type glasses. i usually have a couple of pairs because either one of my buddies forgets to bring one or the guy next to me doesnt have any. Another reason I bring tons of foam ear plugs because one time I was at the range this guy and his kid were shooting next to me and either had any hearing protection. I was shooting my 30-06 and I had some 190 grain rounds and they were freaking loud. the kid was plugging his ears with his fingers. i dug in my ammo bag and brought out some foam plugs. The guy offered to buy them but I declined. The nice thign was he let me shoot his AR15 which was pretty fun to shoot
Rob

[Blackwater OPS]

pone time I was at the range this guy and his kid were shooting next to me and either had any hearing protection.p
Rob

:eek: :eek: :eek: I would have intervened there, no way that's kosher.

[Clodbuster]

I use SG-1s and they came with raised foam ridges that you can tailor to increase airflow and prevent fogging. I had to cut nearly all of them in half.

Clod

Careful with Wiley-X... mine fog up within SECONDS of putting them on.

I've got some anti-fog coating stuff to apply to it, however I'm still trying to get it to the point where the coating's light enough not to blur my vision, yet heavy enough to prevent them from fogging up.

As for the BS about "just spit in it and rub it around" - NO, that DOES NOT WORK for how little air flow the Wiley-X's get. Spit is just flat-out not effective.