Is it possible to sell a registered AR?

[calAWBsux]

I have a friend who no longer wants his registered Bushy AR and wanted to know how he can legally sell it. Of course, we know that it can't be sold to anyone in Kali. But, since it is registered can he sell it to someone out of state through a dealer with an AW permit?

I tried to talk him out of it, but he is adamant that he no longer wants it. He also has a Beta Mag that he purchased back in the day and five 20 round mags that will go with it as a package deal.



Any feedback will be appreciated.

[leelaw]

You should slap your friend. He'll thank you after the next ban. ;)

[calAWBsux]

Man, I already tried to talk him out of it, but he is SET on selling it. He stated that he just isn't interested in it anymore and that he just bought it because of the whole Y2K deal back in the day. The rifle only has about 300-400 rounds through it.

[Centurion_D]

I have a friend who no longer wants his registered Bushy AR and wanted to know how he can legally sell it. Of course, we know that it can't be sold to anyone in Kali. I tried to talk him out of it, but he is adamant that he no longer wants it. He also has a Beta Mag that he purchased back in the day and five 20 round mags that will go with it as a package deal.

From what I understand, he would need to talk to an FFL with an AW permint, right?

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Dude! Your friend is sick! I just can't figure out why he would want to dump all that firepower. Pray he never gets caught in the middle of a LA riot/New Orleans SHTF scenario..he'll regret selling his bushy.

[bwiese]

Call a cop, 5150 allows involuntary committment for mental defect/inability to care for oneself :)

If your insane friend really really wants to sell a legally-owned, registered *named* assault weapon, it needs to go thru a CA FFL that holds an AW permit to sell it out of state. He cannot just ship it to an FFL outside CA like he could with an ordinary rifle (or a disassembled, unlisted-by-name registered Cat III AW). He cannot of course sell it in state (unless the dealer w/AW permit wanted it for his inventory - unlikely).

The hicap magazines can be retained without still possessing the AW, or can be resold outside CA without any FFL intervention.

Tell the dude that if he needs cash to sell the full upper, and to keep the lower and hicaps.

Many many folks in CA, esp here, would pay thousands of dollars to have the legal ability to have the gun + mags your friend casually wants to discard.

[Super_tactical]

Is he trying to buy some crack rock with the money?

[Paratus et Vigilans]

Tell him to keep his rifle, and sell you his name!

Go do a legal name change.

Then, when you are legally the person in whose name that AW is registered, you'd better make sure you keep it secured according to the terms of our AW laws!

:D

You know, that started out as a joke . . .

Hmmmmm. . . . . :confused:

Nahhhh. . . .

Maybe?????

[bwiese]

Tell him to keep his rifle, and sell you his name!

Go do a legal name change.

Then, when you are legally the person in whose name that AW is registered, you'd better make sure you keep it secured according to the terms of our AW laws!

:D

You know, that started out as a joke . . .

Hmmmmm. . . . . :confused:

Nahhhh. . . .

Maybe?????

The AW reg is associated with a CDL# too.

Ahh, perhaps a campaign to get a law passed to pick 'preferred' DL#s ! :)

[guimus]

A used lower with LPK and stock is maybe worth 200 bucks. Tell him to sell the upper (non-controlled item, can be sold to anyone and shipped through the mail) and the beta (out of state). Hold on to the 20's and the lower. Tell him that you'll lend him the 200 bucks that he's out in case he ever needs it; you just get to hang out with him if SHTF.

[Cato]

I was at Reddings and a guy was trying to sell a Colt AR-15. The manager at Redding warned him he'll never be able to get another one in this state; then went on about there isn't really a market for these anywhere! A Colt AR-15! A Colt AR-15! There are some of us who would give up a testicle for one! The guy said that he doesnt really take it out shooting much anymore and it's taking up space in his safe! Can you believe it?!

Can we just revoke his man card?

[calAWBsux]

Call a cop, 5150 allows involuntary committment for mental defect/inability to care for oneself :)

If your insane friend really really wants to sell a legally-owned, registered *named* assault weapon, it needs to go thru a CA FFL that holds an AW permit. He cannot just ship it to an FFL outside CA like he could with an ordinary rifle (or a disassembled, unlisted-by-name registered Cat III AW).

The hicap magazines can be retained without still possessing the AW, or can be resold outside CA without any FFL intervention.

Tell dude if he needs cash to sell the upper, and to keep the lower and hicaps.

Many many folks in CA, esp here, would pay thousands of dollars to have the legal ability to have the gun + mags your friend casually wants to discard.

Thanks. Will pass this info along.

By the way, fellas, I agree with everyone's sentiment here: he shouldn't sell the rifle!

[Centurion_D]

I was at Reddings and a guy was trying to sell a Colt AR-15. The manager at Redding warned him he'll never be able to get another one in this state; then went on about there isn't really a market for these anywhere! A Colt AR-15! A Colt AR-15! There are some of us who would give up a testicle for one! The guy said that he doesnt really take it out shooting much anymore and it's taking up space in his safe! Can you believe it?!

Can we just revoke his man card?

What the hell is that dude thinking?..taking up space in his safe?! He can slap a collapsible stock/16" upper and have plenty of room for other stuff. Hell he could take the upper and lower apart and store in his safe like that. Anything except sell it.:mad:

[Paratus et Vigilans]

Yeah, it's like dumping your original 427 AC Cobra because the price of gas is high and you need more room in your garage for your new Toyota Prius hybrid. :eek:

Man card revoked. Permanently. :D

[Mute]

Your friend deserves an honorary mention for the Darwin Awards.

[DV8]

Like everyone else, I'd strip it then sell off the parts but keep the lower and the mags. You never know when you're going to get the urge to have an AR again. If the ban hits, he's never getting one ever.

On the other hand, if this next ban is like the 94 one and you can still sell pre-ban hi-caps (god I hate that word), he can make a killing with his mags. Remember when pre-ban beta-c's used to sell for $800?

[1911 Pimp]

Like everyone else, I'd strip it then sell off the parts but keep the lower and the mags. You never know when you're going to get the urge to have an AR again. If the ban hits, he's never getting one ever.

On the other hand, if this next ban is like the 94 one and you can still sell pre-ban hi-caps (god I hate that word), he can make a killing with his mags. Remember when pre-ban beta-c's used to sell for $800?Thats what I would do . Tell him to strip it and sell the parts and keep the stripped lower.

[Surveyor]

Maybe this is the beginning of the "Zumbo" effect! :eek: The brady bunch

paid off Zumbo to brainwash us from the inside out. Now now your friend's

got this white guilt about having an AR-15. This guy needs to go on the Ted

Nugent AR-15 hunt with Zumbo! It's the gun communities version of going to

rehab.

[Diablo]

Man, I hope he loses the Hi Caps somewhere I can find them....:rolleyes: :D

[3GunFunShooter]

+ 1 on the MAN CARD revokation.
For shame, for shame.

[bwiese]

Man, I hope he loses the Hi Caps somewhere I can find them....:rolleyes: :D

I hope this was a joke.

Illegal mag acquisition seems to be an increasing concern of one or more midlevel DOJ staffers, as this was internally perceived as a side effect of an irrational Deputy AG campaign against fixed-mag rifles (nevertheless her campaign against same continued despite internal advice - guess she was tuned out from them and tuned into the Bradys).

[magsnubby]

I hope this thread is an early April Fools joke. Otherwise i think i'm gonna cry.

[hoffmang]

1. One other option for your friend to carry out his insanity legally is to travel with the registered AR out of California and sell it to an FFL in another state.

2. Illegal hi-cap acquisition may be something they are concerned with but they don't have a lot of law to chase people with.

-Gene

[xenophobe]

1. One other option for your friend to carry out his insanity legally is to travel with the registered AR out of California and sell it to an FFL in another state.

2. Illegal hi-cap acquisition may be something they are concerned with but they don't have a lot of law to chase people with.

-Gene

I was just going to add that. Good to see you beat me to it. lol :D

[stator]

Any feedback will be appreciated.


I will point out that if your buddy's Bushmaster is a pre-ban ('94 federal AWB), then it is worth something more than your average AR. There are states that ban post-ban ARs. Thus, those less-than-free citizens are forced to only buy pre-bans.

If it is a post-ban, he should keep it because he will probably not get much for it.

[Ford8N]

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms: (a) All of the following specified rifles: (1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows: (A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S. (B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S. (C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47. (D) MAADI AK47 and ARM. (2) UZI and Galil. (3) Beretta AR-70. (4) CETME Sporter. (5) Colt AR-15 series. (6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C. (7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter. (8) MAS 223. (9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1 (10) The following MAC types: (A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11. (B) SWD Incorporated M11. (11) SKS with detachable magazine. (12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551. (13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48. (14) Sterling MK-6. (15) Steyer AUG. (16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S. (17) Armalite AR-180. (18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.


Is the receiver exactly marked "Bushmaster Assault Rifle" or something else? There might be some "wiggle room". Risky, but possible to transfer it in the state. Consult a good lawyer.

Just throwing this out there.

[Blue]

I was at Reddings and a guy was trying to sell a Colt AR-15. The manager at Redding warned him he'll never be able to get another one in this state; then went on about there isn't really a market for these anywhere! A Colt AR-15! A Colt AR-15! There are some of us who would give up a testicle for one! The guy said that he doesnt really take it out shooting much anymore and it's taking up space in his safe! Can you believe it?!

Can we just revoke his man card?


I'd think the guy at Reddings was trying to do the guy a favor. Tell him there's no market for them so he doesn't sell it. What a freaking huge mistake that would be.

[SemiAutoSam]

The Bushmaster assault rifle is listed on page 11 of this DOJ guide book to so called assault weapons. However Bushmaster is also listed on page 63 of the same PDF document. and that one is the one that this is most likely dealing with.


http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf


12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms: (a) All of the following specified rifles: (1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows: (A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S. (B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S. (C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47. (D) MAADI AK47 and ARM. (2) UZI and Galil. (3) Beretta AR-70. (4) CETME Sporter. (5) Colt AR-15 series. (6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C. (7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter. (8) MAS 223. (9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1 (10) The following MAC types: (A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11. (B) SWD Incorporated M11. (11) SKS with detachable magazine. (12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551. (13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48. (14) Sterling MK-6. (15) Steyer AUG. (16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S. (17) Armalite AR-180. (18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.


Is the receiver exactly marked "Bushmaster Assault Rifle" or something else? There might be some "wiggle room". Risky, but possible to transfer it in the state. Consult a good lawyer.

Just throwing this out there.

[Trader Jack]

[QUOTE=bwiese;538014]Call a cop, 5150 allows involuntary committment for mental defect/inability to care for oneself :)

If your insane friend really really wants to sell a legally-owned, registered *named* assault weapon, it needs to go thru a CA FFL that holds an AW permit to sell it out of state. He cannot just ship it to an FFL outside CA like he could with an ordinary rifle

He can also sell the gun out of state by taking it himself to that state.

[Diablo]

I hope this was a joke.

Illegal mag acquisition seems to be an increasing concern of one or more midlevel DOJ staffers, as this was internally perceived as a side effect of an irrational Deputy AG campaign against fixed-mag rifles (nevertheless her campaign against same continued despite internal advice - guess she was tuned out from them and tuned into the Bradys).



Jokie, joke people...jokie, joke....

Besides, I wouldn't know what to do with a Beta if I had one....

[adamsreeftank]

Sell a registered AW and legal high caps?

Would you sell your wife?
your dog?
your children?

[calAWBsux]

I will point out that if your buddy's Bushmaster is a pre-ban ('94 federal AWB), then it is worth something more than your average AR. There are states that ban post-ban ARs. Thus, those less-than-free citizens are forced to only buy pre-bans.

If it is a post-ban, he should keep it because he will probably not get much for it.

Yep, it's a post ban.

[Surveyor]

Sell a registered AW and legal high caps?

Would you sell your wife?
your dog?
your children?




Would you sell your wife? Yes. Please make me an offer.

your children? Umm, maybe the oldest one. (He's been really popping off lately!)

your dog? Hell no!!! Are you crazy!!! She's the only one that listens to me.;)

[Diablo]

Would you sell your wife? Yes. Please make me an offer.

your children? Umm, maybe the oldest one. (He's been really popping off lately!)

your dog? Hell no!!! Are you crazy!!! She's the only one that listens to me.;)


FUNNY!!!!:D :D

[unsped]

i have to admit i did sell a reg'ed AW, it was a century hk91 clone... the ones with the cast alum recievers. such an awful piece of junk it was more danger to the shooter than where it was aimed. took about 3 people to cock it, the cocking tube was 1/4" shy of making it to the reciever, and the trunion was rotated pretty aweful.

he could always strip it down to bare receiver and sell the parts.