Well, H.R. 1022 now has 26 co-sponsors, all democrats.

[Incitatus]

Where's all of our gun-loving democrat posters here on CalGuns that told us that the Democrat politicians had learned their lesson and gun control was no longer part of the party platform?

COSPONSORS(26), ALPHABETICAL

Rep Ackerman, Gary L. [NY-5] - 3/7/2007
Rep Berman, Howard L. [CA-28] - 3/13/2007
Rep Capps, Lois [CA-23] - 3/9/2007
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 3/9/2007
Rep Crowley, Joseph [NY-7] - 3/7/2007
Rep DeGette, Diana [CO-1] - 3/13/2007
Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] - 3/13/2007
Rep Eshoo, Anna G. [CA-14] - 3/9/2007
Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 3/7/2007
Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 3/7/2007
Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] - 3/7/2007
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 3/9/2007
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 3/13/2007
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 3/7/2007
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 3/7/2007
Rep Markey, Edward J. [MA-7] - 3/13/2007
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 3/13/2007
Rep Meehan, Martin T. [MA-5] - 3/7/2007
Rep Miller, Brad [NC-13] - 3/9/2007
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 3/7/2007
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 3/13/2007
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 3/7/2007
Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 3/7/2007
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] - 3/13/2007
Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8] - 3/7/2007
Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] - 3/9/2007

I've been hearing a few rumblings about how those "Senior" Democrats who control the party are working to get the new kids in-line with the rest of the party. Apparently they are promising lots of pork to those who don't necessarily share the party view on issues like gun grabbing. Apparently there are a quite a few who are caving in to the pressure.

I would hope this doesn't come as a surprise to anyone - in particular to our democrat voting board colleagues.

[Centurion_D]

Well hold on to your @SS kiddies cuz it's gonna be a rough ride.:mad: Like I pointed out the top elitist democrates are gonna start tightening the thumb screws on those pro-gun demos to get with the program. You know the deal..it's the party line..everybody in step..no dissention allowed!!!! I'm tellin ya the demo's in charge just sends chills up my spine!!!

[Paratus et Vigilans]

Constituents of the "California 5" need to write and call their offices, express polite but sincere disappointment with their co-sponsorship and support for HR 1022, and offer educational materials and opportunities to them so they will not, in their obvious ignorance, continue to sponsor and support such weak-minded, ill-founded legislation.

You can't hope to budge the mindset of "true believers" in gun control, but if you can impact their chances of re-election, or even create the impression that supporting this bill will reduce their chance of continued representation of your district, you may get them to back off so they can get re-elected and continue to "do good" for you, and all of us, in Congress.

(Yeah, I know, pardon me while I vomit, but you know it's the truth.)

[ibbryn]

Personally, I support gun-hating Dem leaders right to voice their opinion and push this bill forward.

I see only good things coming from this bill. :D

[leelaw]

I see only good things coming from this bill. :D

...like?
:confused:

[jmlivingston]

...like?
:confused:

Maybe making the Dem's show their true colors right before a presidential election? There's still a lot of discussion out there that their position on gun-control is what cost them the last presidential election. Hopefully this bill gets shot down in the process!

[rohanreed]

I'm surprised that my "representative", Waxman, isn't on there yet. I would have expected him to be all over it.

[dychen]

Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 3/7/2007
Thats gotta go over real well in Texas :)

[CalNRA]

Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 3/7/2007
Thats gotta go over real well in Texas :)

The Democrats are consolidating their powers in Texas trying to roll back the CCW laws there among other things. Even Texas is not safe from the Antis as it gets more urbanizes and yuppified.

[CalNRA]

Maybe making the Dem's show their true colors right before a presidential election? There's still a lot of discussion out there that their position on gun-control is what cost them the last presidential election. Hopefully this bill gets shot down in the process!

that's what I was thinking. If they did lay low and bite their time, AW ban would be least of our worries in Feb 2009.

for all those who keep saying that these democrats are "blue-dog pro-gun Democrats", let's hope you are right.

[Number 6]

Maybe making the Dem's show their true colors right before a presidential election? There's still a lot of discussion out there that their position on gun-control is what cost them the last presidential election. Hopefully this bill gets shot down in the process!

Some of the Democrat’s own advisors are saying the same thing. Gun control for the Democrats nationally is a losing issue for them, since it only makes their base feel good about themselves and alienates moderate voters from battleground states. It looks like they might be drunk on their own political windfall, and now think any issue is fair game for them.

[6172crew]

Some of the Democrat’s owns advisors are saying the same thing. Gun control for the Democrats nationally is a losing issue for them, since it only makes their base feel good about themselves and alienates moderate voters from battleground states. It looks like they might be drunk on their own political windfall, and now think any issue is fair game for them.

I think its a way to get back at the core of conservative values. Its doesnt seem to apply to this state but they have already railroaded the PRK anyhow. My point is I think they feel safe going after guns and bibles, its the 2 things that piss off Texans and Bush and just about every media outlet has been after these since the 80's.

[magsnubby]

Let's not get to cocky guys. I seem to remember Dubya said he would sign a new AWB if it made it to his desk. Sure we have a better chance, maybe, with a Republican in the White House, but we still need to be vigilant. Look at all the states that have introduced their own AWB's in the last few months. And as mentioned earlier even traditional pro gun states have been coming under attack from the anti's lately.

[DarthSean]

Congress can't even reach a decision on Iraq. I have my suspicions that the AW ban will get lost in the bickering as well.

[jjperl]

This bill better not pass cause I'll be one really pissed of gun owner :mad:

[DedEye]

Congress can't even reach a decision on Iraq. I have my suspicions that the AW ban will get lost in the bickering as well.

Bingo. The chances of this getting anywhere, let alone coming to a floor vote, are basically nonexistent.

[Number 6]

Let's not get to cocky guys. I seem to remember Dubya said he would sign a new AWB if it made it to his desk. Sure we have a better chance, maybe, with a Republican in the White House, but we still need to be vigilant. Look at all the states that have introduced their own AWB's in the last few months. And as mentioned earlier even traditional pro gun states have been coming under attack from the anti's lately.

That is one of the paradoxes of American Politics. Part of the strategy to win national elections is to appear moderate and to not paint oneself as too far left or right. As such gun rights is an issue that it can be argued that Republicans would be willing to sacrifice some of their base in return for a greater number of moderate swing votes. Vice verses the Democrats on the national stage can take a more pro-gun stance and achieve the same effect. That is why I was not surprised at the stance Bush took, but part of me thinks the only reason he took that stance was because he had a good hunch that the bill would never make it to his desk. Traditionally as a president's tenure in office progresses the president will stray more and more from the center and leave some of their more moderate views by the wayside, at least until election time.

I think one of the reasons why you are seeing gun control advocates take their cause to the local levels is that they have a much greater chance of winning. When you are running for election for only one congressional district it matters much less how moderate you appear. Sen. Feinstein has her senate seat locked in so hammering away at guns is a way for her to keep her base from fleeing to another Democrat that is more liberal than she is. Gun control groups can then persuade liberal politicians to make a name for themselves in the guise of "public safety" with little political cost if the election is already in a rather liberal area. But I digress.

[Incitatus]

As of today, they are 30 sponsors, all Democrats.

How can this be? We were assured by our leftist friends that the Dems had learned their lesson and gun control was nowhere part of their agenda!

[ViPER395]

I heard Hugh Hewitt yesterday. I only caught part of it. It sounded like he was agreeing to HR1022, and said something like (and im loosely paraphrasing) 'even most people agree with the assault weapon ban, only a fringe shooting crowd are against the bill'

I think he was responding to a caller who brought up the federal bill, or any impending CA bills. Either way, it brought my reespect for HH down a notch; Even HE doesn't understand the slippery slope on this issue.

[E Pluribus Unum]

As of today, they are 30 sponsors, all Democrats.

How can this be? We were assured by our leftist friends that the Dems had learned their lesson and gun control was nowhere part of their agenda!

We also learned from the DOJ that OLL are illegal....


Some choose to be ignorant.