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yoteassasin
03-12-2007, 4:29 PM
so i jumped on the OLL bandwagon but if im going to have to pin the mag i want something a little acctualy a lot more fun than a 5.56 so has anyone shot a 50 beowulf or a 458 socom and would like to offer their oppinion of them it sure sounds like a great bear and pig gun to me:D

sierratangofoxtrotunion
03-12-2007, 4:57 PM
There was an AR in 50 Beowulf at the last Chabot Shoot n Que, I forget the guy's user name.

wilit
03-12-2007, 5:13 PM
Notime2shoot is the one with the Beowulf. It's cool and all, but unless you reload your own ammo, it's going to be VERY expensive to shoot.

thmpr
03-12-2007, 5:14 PM
It is a blast to shoot...! I bought the Beowulf last year and waiting on my custom upper from Bill.... Cant wait.

C.G.
03-12-2007, 8:47 PM
There was an AR in 50 Beowulf at the last Chabot Shoot n Que, I forget the guy's user name.

There were two, I was one of them.:)

C.G.
03-12-2007, 8:53 PM
so i jumped on the OLL bandwagon but if im going to have to pin the mag i want something a little acctualy a lot more fun than a 5.56 so has anyone shot a 50 beowulf or a 458 socom and would like to offer their oppinion of them it sure sounds like a great bear and pig gun to me:D

It is a blast, but remember that the range is only about 200 yards, unless you want to shoot it like a mortar.
I would go with the .50 Beowulf for the simple reason that there is a lot more support for it. The only ones building .458 are Teppo Juitsu and at some point RRA. Tony Rushmore doesn't do them anymore.
Here is the .50 Beowulf site:
http://www.50beowulf.com/forum/index.php

SemiAutoSam
03-12-2007, 8:57 PM
I'm building one in 300 whisper. Its the center round in the pic below.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/300-221.jpg/300px-300-221.jpg

The website below lists some of the more common calibers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15

MustangO4
03-12-2007, 9:28 PM
I have the SOCOM and if you are near San Diego, shoot me an email and you can shoot mine at Iron Sights in Oceanside. I have shot Gramatron's 50 beo too, and it is cool too! If you like load developement and odd-ball options, go 458. The 50 is a blast too and a little cheaper upfront. Either is so expensive to shoot (1.50-3.00 a round easy) you have to reload.

Check out www.458socomforums.com

yoteassasin
03-12-2007, 9:29 PM
i reload so that is not an issue are there any reliability issues, feeding issues , how hard does it hit what is the animals reaction type of scenarios on the 50 and does anyone have a 458 socom i realy want one of these and the upfront cost is really not an issue either in the long run its only a couple hundred and to get what i want its worth it basicy i want a semi auto repacement for my big bore marlin so the intended range is already 200yds max i know you guys got more to say so lets hear it oh and im in the east bay (san ramon) so if anyone is near by, well you know

ChrisSig
03-19-2007, 6:13 PM
Ok, total n00b question here - I understand that .50 Beowulf is CA legal. How is it not banned by the .50 cal rifle ban?

blkA4alb
03-19-2007, 6:17 PM
Ok, total n00b question here - I understand that .50 Beowulf is CA legal. How is it not banned by the .50 cal rifle ban?

Only .50BMG's case dimensions are banned. Not all .50 caliber rounds.

Jedidiah
03-19-2007, 6:17 PM
I think it's because the .50 BMG caliber is banned by name.

Chime in and correct me if I'm wrong guys I'm still new at this myself

grammaton76
03-19-2007, 6:19 PM
blka4alb's correct. 50BMG is banned by explicit dimensions, but there's no ban on other 50-caliber rounds.

ChrisSig
03-19-2007, 7:49 PM
Sweet!

ChrisSig
03-19-2007, 7:54 PM
Hey Grammaton, when can I shoot your .50 Beo? :D

brighamr
03-19-2007, 8:01 PM
blka4alb's correct. 50BMG is banned by explicit dimensions, but there's no ban on other 50-caliber rounds.

Does this mean we can buy complete .50 cal (non-BMG) rifles from out of state and send them here legally?:confused: If so, I am very :D :D :D

blkA4alb
03-19-2007, 8:03 PM
Does this mean we can buy complete .50 cal (non-BMG) rifles from out of state and send them here legally?:confused: If so, I am very :D :D :D

As long as they are not on any of the banned lists and do not violate SB23, yes.

SemiAutoSam
03-19-2007, 8:07 PM
Aren't 50BMG firearms only banned if they are shoulder fired ?

Remember that 50BMG cannon of sorts.
I recall a thread with a pic of that item.

blka4alb's correct. 50BMG is banned by explicit dimensions, but there's no ban on other 50-caliber rounds.

hoffmang
03-19-2007, 8:11 PM
Only rifles chambered in .50BMG are banned. Non shoulder fired - aka crew served weapons - like the M2 are not illegal to purchase, import, or own in California.

-Gene

blkA4alb
03-19-2007, 8:13 PM
Only rifles chambered in .50BMG are banned. Non shoulder fired - aka crew served weapons - like the M2 are not illegal to purchase, import, or own in California.

-Gene

Whoops, forgot that important part. Silly me.. :o .

brighamr
03-19-2007, 8:13 PM
I can finally have the gun I always dreamed of(below) but of course I'd have to do a 'saiga like' conversion to keep it legal. (move trigger back, no pg, and a more ergo stock)
http://www.defensereview.com/1_31_2004/Accuracy%20International%20AS50%20.50%20BMG%20Semi-Auto%20Rifle_1.jpg

theseacow
03-19-2007, 8:14 PM
1. Go with the wulf.
2. Handload your rounds, and use the woodleigh bullet in your beowulf.

This is the PERFECT pig round for 250 yards or shorter. There isn't a bullet/caliber combo that makes a meat slap sound like the beowulf .50/woodleigh. Pigs hit with this setup DIE everytime(and all the time). Ask me how i know?

TheMan
03-19-2007, 10:02 PM
I can finally have the gun I always dreamed of(below) but of course I'd have to do a 'saiga like' conversion to keep it legal. (move trigger back, no pg, and a more ergo stock)

Isnt the AS50 chambered in 50BMG? You'd need to get it rechambered in .510 DTC, or something else

TheMan
03-19-2007, 10:10 PM
so i jumped on the OLL bandwagon but if im going to have to pin the mag i want something a little acctualy a lot more fun than a 5.56 so has anyone shot a 50 beowulf or a 458 socom and would like to offer their oppinion of them it sure sounds like a great bear and pig gun to me:D


If you are building a big bore, you will probably want a fixed mag anyhow. And the .50 Beowulf only comes with a muzzle brake or bare muzzle. So all you'd need to do is to get rid of the pistol grip, and you can run it in a removable mag configuration. Like this:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/bradrs/Beowulf/S_CAlegalbeowulf.jpg

Haven't had a chance to hunt any boars with it yet, but I'd like to.

shootm
03-20-2007, 12:04 AM
Here is mine. Tony Rumor @Tromix did the brake and polished the barrel for me.
Also a 3 shot group with my reloads. :D
http://usera.imagecave.com/kiyoAR10man/BEO-PURPLE/DSC00516-copy.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/kiyoAR10man/BEO-PURPLE/DSC00517.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/kiyoAR10man/BEOWULF-GROUPS/Beowulfsmallestgroupyet.jpg

ChrisSig
03-20-2007, 6:24 AM
Are the .50 Beo/ .458 socom etc. magazines CA legal (as long as they are less than 10 rounds, and I believe they all are) ? From what I understand they are simply 20 or 30 rd. 5.56 magazines with a different follower and modified feed lips.

shootm
03-20-2007, 8:51 AM
Are the .50 Beo/ .458 socom etc. magazines CA legal (as long as they are less than 10 rounds, and I believe they all are) ? From what I understand they are simply 20 or 30 rd. 5.56 magazines with a different follower and modified feed lips.

Yes, they are. You cannot load 223 in them cause the feed lips are too wide. You can only get 10 Beo's in a 30 mag body, 4 in the 20. If you alread have the magazines you can modify them your self. They use the same follower.:D

MustangO4
03-20-2007, 10:34 AM
On 458 no modification is required on an AR mag.

ChrisSig
03-20-2007, 12:16 PM
On 458 no modification is required on an AR mag.

Does that present any problems for us here in CA?

brighamr
03-20-2007, 1:08 PM
Isnt the AS50 chambered in 50BMG? You'd need to get it rechambered in .510 DTC, or something else

obviously this is correct, what I meant was that I could have a semi-auto .50 cal sniper rifle (the AS50 with slight changes). Up until now, I never thought it possible in Komifornia

stevied
03-20-2007, 3:14 PM
Does that present any problems for us here in CA?

It should be fine if you keep a 458 upper attached to the lower. It would be better to buy a 30 round mag that is stamped 458 socom though

grammaton76
03-20-2007, 3:43 PM
Hey Grammaton, when can I shoot your .50 Beo? :D

Probably next Monday, 7:30pm, although POSSIBLY the Monday after that instead - just depends on how dead I am after the Costa Mesa show.

There'll be a U-15 stock and new Monsterman grip for demonstration purposes. As well as U-15's available for cash-and-carry, so you can save S&H... :)

yoteassasin
03-20-2007, 5:51 PM
yea so im most likely getting the 458 socom and i im gona lin the mag cause i like how the ar 15 swings to my shoulder with the pistol grip and i realy dont ever see the need to dump more than 7 rds at an animal and if i was im pretty sure that i would be dead befor i got the next mag in anyway . i am worndering about the mag legality any one have any imput???

ChrisSig
03-20-2007, 6:00 PM
Probably next Monday, 7:30pm, although POSSIBLY the Monday after that instead - just depends on how dead I am after the Costa Mesa show.

There'll be a U-15 stock and new Monsterman grip for demonstration purposes. As well as U-15's available for cash-and-carry, so you can save S&H... :)

Cool, just send me a PM when you can.

pullnshoot25
03-20-2007, 8:32 PM
I can finally have the gun I always dreamed of(below) but of course I'd have to do a 'saiga like' conversion to keep it legal. (move trigger back, no pg, and a more ergo stock)
http://www.defensereview.com/1_31_2004/Accuracy%20International%20AS50%20.50%20BMG%20Semi-Auto%20Rifle_1.jpg

That is one of the best gun pictures I have ever seen... friggin badass.

C.G.
03-20-2007, 9:55 PM
Yes, they are. You cannot load 223 in them cause the feed lips are too wide. You can only get 10 Beo's in a 30 mag body, 4 in the 20. If you alread have the magazines you can modify them your self. They use the same follower.:D

Slight correction, 7 rounds of Beo in 20 rounder and either 3 or 4 in 10 rounders, depending on manufacture.