View Full Version : What is minimum rifle length for OLL with fixed mag?
If I have a fixed mag OLL and I have all the evil features, what is the total legal length does it have to be (collapsed) in California? I read somewhere it was 30" for semi-auto, but with a 16" barrel (14.5" with perm flash suppressor), I think it falls a little short when the stock is collapsed completely.
03-11-2007, 7:13 AM
under 30" semi-auto is an "assault weapon"
03-11-2007, 11:58 AM
With a 16" barrel and collapsable stock it will still meet the 30" requirement.
03-11-2007, 1:17 PM
put a screw in the bottom of the buffer tube (near the holes for each extension position) that will prevent it from collapsing all the way.
03-11-2007, 1:24 PM
Any semiauto centerfire rifle in CA must be 30" or longer or it is considered an assault weapon (that's one of the alternate definitions).
A mainstream collapsible "CAR" or "M4" stock on a rifle with 16" barrel should still get your rifle to beyond 30" min length, even when collapsed. As I recall, my 16" carbine with VLTOR stock was ~31" long (but wasn't paying too much attention as it's a legal reg'd AW).
03-11-2007, 2:00 PM
As I recall, my 16" carbine with VLTOR stock was ~31" long (but wasn't paying too much attention as it's a legal reg'd AW).
My Colt M4gery with a 14.5" (brought to 16" with a permanent Vortex) and a Vltor collapsible come to 30 1/2"
The standard A2 compensator, even if permanently fastened to 14.5" M4 barrel is not long enough to bring the barrel assembly to the 16" legal minimum. That's why you have to use a Vortex, Phantom or one of the newer, longer muzzle devices.
My 16" DPMS HBAR (no muzzle brake or hider) with 6 POS CAR is 30-5/8" fully collapsed.
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