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HBchevelle68
12-28-2011, 11:22 AM
OK i just picked up a Howa 1500 varminter supreme in 22-250. It has a 24 inch barrel an laminated wood stock.

Problem is i cannot find what the twist rate for my rifle is! I plan on reloading so knowing my twist is kinda important.

Ive searched the web an can only find the twist rate for the .223 version

Will it be the same as the .223 version?

Help!!

THanks all!!

jtv3062
12-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Howa has nothing on their website? Have you tryed using a patched cleaning rod and ruler?

HBchevelle68
12-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Ya howa's website sucks. And no i have not. I am unfamiliar with that maethod

undercow16969
12-28-2011, 11:35 AM
I think the standard is a 1-14 or a 1-12. I have a 22-250 PPC with a 1-9 and a 22-250 Ackley improved that is a 1-14. I use 50gr for the AI for my varmint rounds and lighter for further distances all boat tail projectiles too :) best velocity for my builds that I have found I'm at about 3900fps.

jtv3062
12-28-2011, 11:46 AM
Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdoCNZBlRGQ

FeuerFrei
12-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Howa 1500 Heavy Barreled Action, 24" barrel length
.308 (1:12"), .243 (1:10"), .22-250(1:14"), .223(1:12")

Latigo
12-28-2011, 3:07 PM
Long Range Shooting Secrets
Bullets Tips
The twist rate of the barrel determines the best bullet weight for your gun and is the single, most important factor for rifle accuracy (see included twist rate chart). The manufacturer cuts the rifling to a twist rate that will stabilize the bullet designed and tested for that cartridge. The smaller the bore diameter, the more difficult it is to stabilize a bullet. Heavy bullets cannot be driven to the same velocities as lighter bullets in the same barrel, so they are also not spinning as fast leaving the muzzle and may not stabilize down range. Bullet spin is a product of twist rate and velocity. A sure sign of a bullet not spinning fast enough is a target with oval or keyhole hits. Using a light bullet in a fast twist rate barrel may cause the bullet to skip across the rifling and literally file itself, thus larger groups. Excess copper residue in the barrel is a clue. Try to duplicate factory loads. They have been extensively tested for best results. Matching the bullet weight to the twist rate and velocity is essential for accuracy. If you need a heavier bullet than your twist rate will handle, you are probably using the wrong rifle.
Bullet parameters: Besides weight, there are five measurements that should be considered when selecting a bullet. Sectional Density: A weight to length ratio measurement. The longer and heavier the bullet, the higher the sectional density thus the deeper it will penetrate. This parameter is not important for target and varmint loads but is very important for game hunting loads. Ballistic Coefficient (BC): The higher the BC, the more aerodynamic the bullet, thus it will drop less at long ranges and will be less affected by cross winds. Due to air density, small diameter bullets such as a .224” typically have poor BCs. 6mm bullets and larger start getting higher BCs. A BC of .400 is considered very good, .500 and higher is excellent. Balance: All rifle bullets are heavier in the rear than the front and therefore are naturally unstable. The more balanced, the more stable it will be. Bore Surface is the length of the bullet that actually touches the bore. The longer the bore surface, the more it dampens effects from bullet jump shock and the more stable the bullet will be going down the barrel. This parameter is very important for accuracy. Ogive is the point on the nose where the bullet first measures full diameter. This important parameter will dictate bullet seating depth, bullet jump and cartridge overall length. All bullets must be seated at optimum depth for best accuracy. This usually occurs where the ogive is .010” from the rifled bore.
Conclusion: Analyze before loading. Always stay within the bullet weight intended for your twist rate. Try to select a bullet with the longest bore surface, best balanced, shortest ogive to tip measurement, highest ballistic coefficient, and best sectional density, in that order. A good place to start is a boat tail with a blunt nose or hollow point. Most reloading manuals list BC, sectional density, and have pictures of bullets so you can compare important parameters. Don’t skimp on bullets; buy the best quality you can find. Most bullets sold in bulk packs are not uniform weight. Stay with boxes of 100. Use a Bullet Depth Gauge to determine proper bullet seating depth. Bullet Depth Gauges are available from Cactus Tactical in all cartridges with .224, 7mm, and .308 diameter bullets. These tools are very easy to use and come with simple instructions. Unfortunately, they are only available for guns with direct in-line chamber access such as a bolt action, single shot, AR-15, etc.
Next in Series: Long Range Shooting Secrets: Powder Tips.
Rifle Twist Rates
Caliber Twist Rate Bullet Weight
.172 1:10 all weights
.222 Rim Fire 1:16 all weights, lead bullets
.224 / 5.56mm 1:16 up to 55 grains, 4300 fps or more
1:15 up to 55 grains, 4100 – 4300 fps
1:14 up to 55 grains, less than 4100 fps
1:12 55 – 63 grains
1:9 63 – 70 grains
1:8 70 grains or more
.243 / 6mm 1:15 up to 70 grains
1:14 70 - 75 grains
1:13 75 – 85 grains
1:12 85 – 100 grains
1:10 100 grains or more
.257 1:14 up to 70 grains
1:13 70 – 80 grains
1:12 80 – 90 grains
1:10 90 – 100 grains
1:9 100 grains or more
.264 / 6.5 mm 1:9 up to 130 grains
1:8 130 grains or more
.270 1:10 all weights
.284 / 7mm 1:11 up to 140 grains
1:10 Magnum velocities
1:9.5 140 grains or more
.308 / 7.62mm 1:15 up to 150 grains
1:14 150 – 168 grains
1:12 168 – 170 grains
1:10 170 – 220 grains
1:8 220 grains or more
.311 / 7.65 mm 1:10 all weights
.321 1:16 all weights
.323 / 8mm 1:10 all weights
.338 1:10 all weights
.348 1:12 all weights
.358 1:12 all weights
.375 1:12 all weights
.411 1:14 all weights
.416 1:14 all weights
.429 1:38 all weights
.458 1:20 all weights up to 2000 fps
1:14 all weights above 2000 fps

Caliber Twist:

.172
- 9" for bullets heavier than 30gr.
- 10" for bullets up to 30gr.
.204/20
- 9" for VLD bullets
- 12" for all bullets
.222 RF
- 10"* 60 gr. bullets Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 14"* Twist for pistol barrels
- 15"* Special twist for rifle barrels
- 16" Standard twist for rifle barrels
- 16"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 17"* Special twist for rifle barrels
.224 CF
- 8" for bullets heavier than 70gr.
- 8"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 9" for bullets up to 70gr.
- 12: for bullets up to 63gr.
- 14" for bullets up to 55gr.
- 14"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 15"* for bullets up to 55gr. driven 4,100 pfs or more
- 16:* for bullets up to 55gr. driven 4,300 fps or more
6mm/.243
- 8" Special for VLD bullets over 100 gr.
- 8"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 10" For bullets up to 120 gr. and VLD under 100 gr.
- 12" for bullets up to 85gr.
- 13"* for bullets up to 75gr.
- 14"* for bullets up to 70gr.
- 14"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 15"* Special for bullets up to 70gr.
.257
- 9" for bullets heavier than 100gr.
- 10" for bullets up to 100gr.
- 12" for bullets up to 90gr.
- 13"* for bullets up to 80gr.
- 14"* for bullets up to 70gr.
6.5mm/.264
- 8" for bullets heavier than 130gr.
- 8"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 9" for bullets up to 130gr.
.270
- 10" for all bullets
7mm/.284
- 8" for all bullets-customer discretion 180 gr. VLD
- 9" for bullets heavier than 140gr.
- 11" for bullets up to 140gr.
.307
- 13"* Special size and twist
.308
- 8" for bullets heavier than 220gr.
- 10" for bullets up to 220gr.
- 12" for bullets up to 170gr.
- 13"* Ratchet rifled 4 groove
- 14"* for bullets up to 168gr.
- 15"* for bullets up to 150gr.
- 17"* for bullets up to 125 gr.
7.65mm/.311
- 10" for all bullets
8mm/.323
- 10" for all bullets
.338
- 8" for all bullets
- 10" for all bullets
9mm/.355
- 14" for low velocity wad cutters
- 16" for all other bullets
9.3mm/.365
- 12" for all bullets
.38/.357
- 14" for low velocity wad cutters
- 18" for all other bullets
.358
- 14" for all bullets
.375
- 12" for all bullets
10mm/.400
- 16" for all bullets
.411
- 14" for all bullets
.416
- 14" for all bullets
.44
- 20" for all bullets
- 16" for low velocity wad cutters
.451
- 16" for all bullets
.458
- 14" for all bullets
* Stainless Steel only


Black Powder Barrels (1.250" x 30"):

.32
- 14", 16" .320 groove
.38
- 20" .379 groove
.40
- 20" .403 groove
.457
- 20" , 14" .457 groove