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ParanoidCivilian
12-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Bought a BMG "Raptor" lower today. Anyone have any experience with this lower? It's from a company in Bend Oregon.

Twistedsteel
12-20-2011, 7:25 PM
How bout a pic?

donking
12-20-2011, 7:27 PM
:useless:

rero360
12-20-2011, 7:41 PM
Why would you buy something without doing research on it first?

mlevans66
12-20-2011, 8:10 PM
:useless:

Can we get one!

donking
01-15-2012, 5:27 PM
Can we get one!

A link would work too.

:oji:

ConcreteJungle
01-15-2012, 6:10 PM
i couldn't find the company website but i did find it on MREguns.com

http://www.mcssl.com/store/mreguns/catalog/product/00472895fd834e03aaeeb335012a30ff

Dreaded Claymore
01-15-2012, 6:14 PM
http://www.mcssl.com/store/mreguns/catalog/product/00472895fd834e03aaeeb335012a30ff

My first impression is that that web page is designed solely to trick people into paying more than a lower is worth. Then again, billet lower receivers usually cost about that much.

jm13690
01-15-2012, 6:25 PM
and it is even wrapped in specially treated heavy stock paper within the box

That is my favorite part of where they were describing the lower. I mean I was a fool to get my lowers all that was in the box was the lower itself, no special paper for me.

cabinetguy
01-15-2012, 6:32 PM
best quality 6061 aluminum available? im sure the lower is on par with others out there, but im interested in the ncstar scopes for sale on the right

supersonic
01-15-2012, 6:41 PM
WOW.....I just read that huge load of horses**t and I am perplexed that anyone in these times could fall for such utterly ridiculous nonsense! They are basically calling out all manufacturers of forged aluminum lowers (which would be 99.9% of the industry) for making an "inferior" product that consumers seem to be having HORRIBLE reliability issues with because of such "loose tolerances." Shame on anyone who would give such a company their business. This is very reminiscent of Vulcan's website/motto. :rolleyes:

Rukus
01-15-2012, 6:44 PM
How exactly does one "exceed mil specs"?

glockwise2000
01-15-2012, 6:46 PM
WOW.....I just read that huge load of horses**t and I am perplexed that anyone in these times could fall for such utterly ridiculous nonsense! They are basically calling out all manufacturers of forged aluminum lowers (which would be 99.9% of the industry) for making an "inferior" product that consumers seem to be having HORRIBLE reliability issues with because of such "loose tolerances." Shame on anyone who would give such a company their business. This is very reminiscent of Vulcan's website/motto. :rolleyes:

+1 :iagree:
That makes Colts an inferior product because they are forged too.

CSACANNONEER
01-15-2012, 6:58 PM
How exactly does one "exceed mil specs"?

All specs are +/- tolerances. If milspec is +/- 0.001", they might run their QC to only accept +/-0.0005". So, that claim is reasonable and possible to believe.

bigb0886
01-15-2012, 9:10 PM
I have one and it works perfectly fine. I think I got it for like 130 or something. Not a bad buy at the time and I guess its still okay. I have no complaints against it.

Rukus
01-15-2012, 11:22 PM
All specs are +/- tolerances. If milspec is +/- 0.001", they might run their QC to only accept +/-0.0005". So, that claim is reasonable and possible to believe.

Thanks, I was pretty sure mil-spec meant it was within a certain tolerance range, just wasn't sure how a tolerance was "exceeded".

Bhobbs
01-15-2012, 11:59 PM
. The forging process begins with molten aluminum alloy being poured into a cast, pressed into shape, and then allowed to cool. As the alloy cools, the shrinkage is not uniform and inconsistencies will form between casts. As a result of these inconsistencies, no one set of tooling can be created with close tolerances to hold these forgings in place while the CNC machine mill the final product. The final product will suffer intolerances when fitted to a milled upper receiver of good quality.

I would avoid for that BS alone. Either they have no clue what forging is or they are trying to deceive people.

mlevans66
01-16-2012, 4:47 AM
Yeeeeah about that site's little paragraph about how awesome there lower is.....For $214.00 you might as well buy a Larue or get a completed lower of "inferior" quality for that much.