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chickenfried
03-07-2007, 11:30 AM
Any members here? Are you happy with your membership? Looking for access to land for pig hunting.

edwardm
03-07-2007, 12:03 PM
I've had a full membership for about a year and a half now. Haven't had much time to go after pigs, but I know some of the properties are loaded with them. Other properties I've hunted had plenty of fresh sign (droppings and rootings), but never saw any pigs. Still trying to get my first boar.

I used it extensively for quail hunting this past season and had a blast. Those little suckers are fast and the only downside was burning up cases of 12 gauge like there was no tomorrow. :)

Worth it, IMO, if you're willing to put the time in. This deer season will be telling for me, though.

Any members here? Are you happy with your membership? Looking for access to land for pig hunting.

jemaddux
03-07-2007, 1:23 PM
I've had a full membership for about a year and a half now. Haven't had much time to go after pigs, but I know some of the properties are loaded with them. Other properties I've hunted had plenty of fresh sign (droppings and rootings), but never saw any pigs. Still trying to get my first boar.

I used it extensively for quail hunting this past season and had a blast. Those little suckers are fast and the only downside was burning up cases of 12 gauge like there was no tomorrow. :)

Worth it, IMO, if you're willing to put the time in. This deer season will be telling for me, though.



So far I have been happy with them. Went a did some pig hunting and saw a few running for it. I know a few people who got turkey and A LOT of quail. I also hunted a couple f the properties last deer eason and saw many people do very well. I didn't because my truck was down, now its back and I can get back to some of the areas good for hunting.


James

capitol
03-07-2007, 1:30 PM
Do the properties allow the use of quads?

edwardm
03-07-2007, 2:22 PM
It varies by property, but each one I've looked at in my club binder says "No" to ATVs.

Do the properties allow the use of quads?

Pablo
03-07-2007, 3:41 PM
I have been a member of WU for less than a year and so far I'm really happy with the membership.
Unfortunately I don't have a truck so to get access to some of the properties I have to walk, lucky for me I like to walk and when I go hunting I end up walking the whole day!

This are some pics of one of the many WU properties.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/435836.JPG (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=435836&c=500&z=1)
http://www.hunt101.com/img/435835.JPG (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=435835&c=500&z=1)

461
03-07-2007, 3:58 PM
Could someone post the cost or PM me with it? I got a brochure and checked out the website but they don't list the prices and wanted my phone number. Poor marketing if you ask me, in this day and age I rarely set myself up for a sales pitch.

scombs263
03-07-2007, 6:58 PM
I too would like to know the cost and number of properties in So Cal.....Thanks

edwardm
03-07-2007, 7:58 PM
Uhm. Try calling them, maybe?

I too would like to know the cost and number of properties in So Cal.....Thanks

Pablo
03-08-2007, 1:56 AM
Something that I really like about WU is that they have a lot of properties, some of which are really big.
I usually like to go hunting during the week, 2-3 days is enough for me. Most of the time I'm the only hunter out there, this is really nice specially because I really don't have a lot of experience so I need all the advantage I can get! Less hunters means more chances for me of bagging a deer or a pig. :)

http://www.hunt101.com/img/435840-big.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=435840&c=500&z=1)

461
03-08-2007, 12:41 PM
edwardm- Must be some huge secret then huh?

Company won't list the price on any literature or website, members won't mention price they paid even when asked- Sounds like the "Free Weekend Timeshare trip" to me.

Thanks but I've had it up to my neck in sales pitches from clowns that couldn't even sell used cars.

Pablo
03-08-2007, 2:09 PM
edwardm- Must be some huge secret then huh?

Company won't list the price on any literature or website, members won't mention price they paid even when asked- Sounds like the "Free Weekend Timeshare trip" to me.

Thanks but I've had it up to my neck in sales pitches from clowns that couldn't even sell used cars.


I don't get it... just grab the phone and call them. If you don't like the price just say "No, Thanks". Seriously there's no big secret here.

Regarding the membership price it all depends of the type of membership you want i.e. Full membership, camping and fishing, big game and bird membership. In my case, I have the BG and C&F membership. My point is that the price of the membership depends of the type of membership you want.

pinheadbob2002
03-08-2007, 2:52 PM
[QUOTE=461;527452]edwardm- Must be some huge secret then huh?


Here it goes-
It is over 1,000 to become a member - and a full member's package for you only is over 1,000 a year. Happy now!
They have lots of rules on what you can and can not do - when you are on there sites. Do not think you can go to a site and find a place to shoot targets. They will not allow this. You will be hunting on people's farm land - and need to respect that fact. So no ATV's - no off roding in your SUV's, etc. They look for people who will respect the fact they are guests on land some one else is using to make a living on.
It is a good deal if you like to hunt allot and do not want to pay trophy fees. So if you hunt a lot and pay fees – it will add up to $1000 fast.
They will also ask for references to make sure you are not a total idiot. So they have a formal interview process – this is why they do not post what it will cost. I do not know if they reject people – but they might if they feel you will mess up there business.

Boarding-Team-Leader
03-08-2007, 3:26 PM
Membership covers the members of your family also.
I have been a member for over ten years.

Make a phone call and set up an interview if interested in the price and details. You are not shopping at a store you are seeking membership in a club.

The good fishing was not mentioned in the above post. How many steelhead have you caught? That is one of the real secrets....
BTL

edwardm
03-08-2007, 5:26 PM
Some of the properties allow you to sight in/target shoot. Circle V Ranch comes to mind. They actually have a somewhat decent range with steel plates. Only problem is sometimes the cows like to occupy the range. :) In fact, they have a meat cooler there you can use too.

All things considered, I don't think a rancher or WU staff is going to gripe if you sight in your rifle and then clean up after yourself (brass and targets). Before I became a member, I went with my dad quite often and we would do just that.

alcmaeon
03-08-2007, 5:32 PM
FWIW

I have never been a member and can't tell you about that, however I can tell you why I decided not to pursue membership.

I talked to a guy from WU at the San Mateo Expo Sportsmen's show in 2006 and liked what I heard initially-- enough to give the guy my phone number. He did mention at that time that he couldn't talk price at the show. I was ok with that though it sent up a little warning flag. So he calls me up to set up a meeting. We start to chat and I again ask him about prices, which I can't remember the exact amount of but it was more than a $1000 in a one time fee and than there were yearly costs at over $1000. He changes the subject to how he wants me to have my wife at the meeting. I mention that she could care less about hunting or fishing and any activity or club centered on hunting and fishing and so she would not be at our meeting. This seems to really bother him so he starts pushing the matter. Why does it matter if she is there I ask, he wouldn’t give me a specific answer to that and boom it hits me, this is exactly like the high pressure sales you get for timeshares. Red flag goes off again I ask him what membership turnover is like and he will not talk about that, even Bally's will tell you how many active memberships a particular club has, it shouldn't be a secret.
So I was over with at that point. I said I had changed my mind, he said ok and we were done.

That does not make them either good or evil in my book; it was just way to much like the time share guys for me to advance my interest.

pinheadbob2002
03-08-2007, 5:37 PM
Some of the properties allow you to sight in/target shoot. Circle V Ranch comes to mind. They actually have a somewhat decent range with steel plates. Only problem is sometimes the cows like to occupy the range. :) In fact, they have a meat cooler there you can use too.

All things considered, I don't think a rancher or WU staff is going to gripe if you sight in your rifle and then clean up after yourself (brass and targets). Before I became a member, I went with my dad quite often and we would do just that.


wow
thats good to know

461
03-08-2007, 6:45 PM
Alcmaeon- That's exactly what I saw coming and exactly why I don't bother to call anyone that can't give an upfront cost on their product.

For you folks that finally gave out some semblance of the price, thank you. was it really that tough? And I guarantee I've got less time invested in a few posts on here than I would have wasted with a B.S. sales pitch from whoever answered the phone and still wouldn't have gotten a direct answer.

popndrop
06-23-2007, 8:56 AM
I just thought I'd add my 1.5 cents...

I just met with a guy for WU last week, first time meeting and all that.
I have to tell you, there was NO HIGH PRESSURE SALES involved in this meeting. I'm a sales guy myself, so I am always sensitive to getting SOLD something...this just wasn't the case in this situation. The guy came out after meeting him at the shooting expo at Rahagues a few weeks back, called first to talk for a few, set the appt and showed up right on time. He was very easy going, explained the whole program to me, answered all of my questions throughly. He did ask to meet my wife, but it was because she needed to sign a form as a member (waiver), he never tried to sell her the program (I had to do that ;)).

When it comes to price, the reason nobody wants to tell you what it costs is that everybody's cost is different, depending on when you join (they fix your cost for life if you keep your membership active). For example, my costs as a new member this year are probably more than the guys who joined from previous years. So in order to get the real price you have to talk with someone from WU.

I'd say this, the going rate is north of $3000 first year with about half that on a per year basis for life. That is for the full access program, big game, birds, fishing, camping, etc...the whole shebang-ola.

If you're really serious about hunting, as I am - you have 2 choices, you can spend TIME, or you can spend MONEY (in some cases you can spend both) if you want to hunt in California. Meaning this, you either have to put in a great deal of time hunting on public land, and I do mean a GREAT amount of TIME...don't expect results unless you're able to live with the 13% success ratios that you get in Cali on big game - that means that about 1 in 10 of your trips may be a success (that's a lot of time). Or you can pay to play...I've paid guides, I've leased duck blinds (i had one last year that cost me $4000, and I think that we shot 6 birds out of it, those were very expensive birds), and I've had to travel out of state in order to get to hunt...so all of those alternatives cost money.

But with all of those, you are very limited to what you get, guides let you hunt one thing, duck blinds - one thing, out of state, etc...but what about when you want to go out and shoot some quail, try for a pig, and then shoot some squirrels, and then maybe stay up and try to get a 'yote or 2...this WU program seems to be the solution to that problem...and at a reasonable cost. And they quote a 78% success ratio on big game - so that means i'll have to spend less TIME to put meat in the freezer.

Since I live in SoCal, all of my hunting trips are going to cost me TIME, and usually a lot of it (at least 6 hours of driving each way for anything that walks, and min 3.5 hours for flying things) I already have a hard enough time to get to the places that i'm hunting, so I can't really afford to take 10 trips in order to see 1 pig...the numbers just don't work out for me. Now, if you live in Paso, and have to drive 15 min to hunt, then sure, it's probably reasonable to take the 1:10 odds, because, even worst-case you're all-in at under what it takes me to make 1 trip. But for those of us who aren't so blessed, WU is a good alternative.

and no, you can't have my other half a cent.

thanks,

pnd

Camham
01-25-2008, 9:13 AM
Popndrop-
How was your first year as a member of Widerness Unlimited? I'm thinking of joining but for a $3000ish investment I'm finding ALOT of mixed reviews out there.

Flux Capacitor
01-25-2008, 10:03 AM
I just thought I'd add my 1.5 cents...

I just met with a guy for WU last week, first time meeting and all that.
I have to tell you, there was NO HIGH PRESSURE SALES involved in this meeting. I'm a sales guy myself, so I am always sensitive to getting SOLD something...this just wasn't the case in this situation. The guy came out after meeting him at the shooting expo at Rahagues a few weeks back, called first to talk for a few, set the appt and showed up right on time. He was very easy going, explained the whole program to me, answered all of my questions throughly. He did ask to meet my wife, but it was because she needed to sign a form as a member (waiver), he never tried to sell her the program (I had to do that ;)).

When it comes to price, the reason nobody wants to tell you what it costs is that everybody's cost is different, depending on when you join (they fix your cost for life if you keep your membership active). For example, my costs as a new member this year are probably more than the guys who joined from previous years. So in order to get the real price you have to talk with someone from WU.

I'd say this, the going rate is north of $3000 first year with about half that on a per year basis for life. That is for the full access program, big game, birds, fishing, camping, etc...the whole shebang-ola.

If you're really serious about hunting, as I am - you have 2 choices, you can spend TIME, or you can spend MONEY (in some cases you can spend both) if you want to hunt in California. Meaning this, you either have to put in a great deal of time hunting on public land, and I do mean a GREAT amount of TIME...don't expect results unless you're able to live with the 13% success ratios that you get in Cali on big game - that means that about 1 in 10 of your trips may be a success (that's a lot of time). Or you can pay to play...I've paid guides, I've leased duck blinds (i had one last year that cost me $4000, and I think that we shot 6 birds out of it, those were very expensive birds), and I've had to travel out of state in order to get to hunt...so all of those alternatives cost money.

But with all of those, you are very limited to what you get, guides let you hunt one thing, duck blinds - one thing, out of state, etc...but what about when you want to go out and shoot some quail, try for a pig, and then shoot some squirrels, and then maybe stay up and try to get a 'yote or 2...this WU program seems to be the solution to that problem...and at a reasonable cost. And they quote a 78% success ratio on big game - so that means i'll have to spend less TIME to put meat in the freezer.

Since I live in SoCal, all of my hunting trips are going to cost me TIME, and usually a lot of it (at least 6 hours of driving each way for anything that walks, and min 3.5 hours for flying things) I already have a hard enough time to get to the places that i'm hunting, so I can't really afford to take 10 trips in order to see 1 pig...the numbers just don't work out for me. Now, if you live in Paso, and have to drive 15 min to hunt, then sure, it's probably reasonable to take the 1:10 odds, because, even worst-case you're all-in at under what it takes me to make 1 trip. But for those of us who aren't so blessed, WU is a good alternative.

and no, you can't have my other half a cent.

thanks,

pnd



My solution is to drive out of state. Plenty of game out there. Much easier too. Feels better not to give into "the man." I'd rather spend it on gas and nonresident fees

tacticalcity
01-26-2008, 11:11 PM
My father had the very first membership sold. He owned a printing company at the time and when they were first getting started they hired him to print up their marketing materials. He gave them a discount in exchange for the first membership. He doesn't hunt any more, got a little soft hearted in his old age. Never the less that organization has always been good to him. He still goes to their anual Christmas dinner everyonce in a while just to catch up with his old friends there. They are very nice people.

gpnjr
06-05-2016, 10:45 AM
The initial sign-up is just over $3,500 that includes the sign-up fee and one year of property usage. But it all depends on the type of access you sign up for they have four different services. full access, big game, bird and waterfowl, and fishing. Based on which one you choose your yearly dudes will reflect the amount.

RandyD
06-05-2016, 11:21 AM
Interesting, you selected a thread that has been silent for almost 8 1/2 years for your first post. My thought is you are a paid employee of Wilderness Unlimited.

LynnJr
06-05-2016, 6:18 PM
I can assure you they don't have 78% success on big game animals.

NickTheGreek
06-06-2016, 12:55 PM
Interesting, you selected a thread that has been silent for almost 8 1/2 years for your first post. My thought is you are a paid employee of Wilderness Unlimited.

Suspicious, huh?

CABilly
06-07-2016, 8:05 AM
That or he just signed up and is searching for confirmation/reassurance on his big purchase.

jsisneroz
01-31-2017, 4:46 PM
Does anyone have any updated reviews on the company. Minus the guy who might work for them.

Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

HighWildFree
01-31-2017, 5:10 PM
Decade-old post...

TheDadLife
01-31-2017, 6:15 PM
Decade-old post...

A new member finally uses the "search" button before posting a new thread with an old question and that's what you chime in with?

Sorry OP, nothing from me but I'll use my bickering to bump this back to the top for you.

HighWildFree
01-31-2017, 6:47 PM
Sorry Dadlife, can't see post count from a phone. But I'd bet that he used google search, not calguns. Let see google search "wilderness unlimited reviews", second result IS!!!! This thread.

But mainly I responded because I wanted to be a part of this 10 year old thread, and found it amusing that it was so old.

TheDadLife
01-31-2017, 7:07 PM
Sorry Dadlife, can't see post count from a phone. But I'd bet that he used google search, not calguns. Let see google search "wilderness unlimited reviews", second result IS!!!! This thread.

But mainly I responded because I wanted to be a part of this 10 year old thread, and found it amusing that it was so old.

You're probably right. Maybe this wasn't the example, I've been waiting to use that one in case you couldn't tell.

yoteassasin
01-31-2017, 7:25 PM
Dont do it !!!! A membership in wilderness unlimited is buying some other guys big game success... it is an outdoorsman pyramid scheme ....

mzhunter
01-31-2017, 7:50 PM
I too would like to know the cost and number of properties in So Cal.....Thanks

if your not up north don't bother all the good stuff is way up north not much in southern cali.

antonio
01-31-2017, 9:54 PM
that place has to be rich now lol.. 3,000 for a membership lucky i have friends with private property i can hunt

RandyD
02-01-2017, 7:35 AM
The initial sign-up is just over $3,500 that includes the sign-up fee and one year of property usage. But it all depends on the type of access you sign up for they have four different services. full access, big game, bird and waterfowl, and fishing. Based on which one you choose your yearly dudes will reflect the amount.

This member joins in March 2016, makes one post, and his last log in was in July 5, 2016.

Regarding Wilderness Unlimited, my old hunting partner had joined, but he and I typically hunted outside of CA. There is much better hunting on public lands, in the other western U.S, that I can't justify the cost of joining.

Newbshooter
02-01-2017, 8:07 AM
The reason they don't post prices is they want a sales guy to come to your house and put a hard sale on you filled with left out details. I went with the limited option. Just like other hunting they have lotteries for good properties on opening days. with a limited option you cannot go on any opening weekend.

To be honest I just didn't have the time to go as much as I wanted if you have time and can go during the week it may pay off.

The did have a great jr deer hunt weekend my daughter got to go on. She didn't shoot a deer but had a guide 1-1/2 day hunt and meals, was lots of fun.

ysr_racer
02-01-2017, 8:27 AM
It almost sounds like a timeshare for hunting?

Bull Elk
02-01-2017, 8:41 AM
I just thought I'd add my 1.5 cents...

I just met with a guy for WU last week, first time meeting and all that.
I have to tell you, there was NO HIGH PRESSURE SALES involved in this meeting. I'm a sales guy myself, so I am always sensitive to getting SOLD something...this just wasn't the case in this situation. The guy came out after meeting him at the shooting expo at Rahagues a few weeks back, called first to talk for a few, set the appt and showed up right on time. He was very easy going, explained the whole program to me, answered all of my questions throughly. He did ask to meet my wife, but it was because she needed to sign a form as a member (waiver), he never tried to sell her the program (I had to do that ;)).

When it comes to price, the reason nobody wants to tell you what it costs is that everybody's cost is different, depending on when you join (they fix your cost for life if you keep your membership active). For example, my costs as a new member this year are probably more than the guys who joined from previous years. So in order to get the real price you have to talk with someone from WU.

I'd say this, the going rate is north of $3000 first year with about half that on a per year basis for life. That is for the full access program, big game, birds, fishing, camping, etc...the whole shebang-ola.

If you're really serious about hunting, as I am - you have 2 choices, you can spend TIME, or you can spend MONEY (in some cases you can spend both) if you want to hunt in California. Meaning this, you either have to put in a great deal of time hunting on public land, and I do mean a GREAT amount of TIME...don't expect results unless you're able to live with the 13% success ratios that you get in Cali on big game - that means that about 1 in 10 of your trips may be a success (that's a lot of time). Or you can pay to play...I've paid guides, I've leased duck blinds (i had one last year that cost me $4000, and I think that we shot 6 birds out of it, those were very expensive birds), and I've had to travel out of state in order to get to hunt...so all of those alternatives cost money.

But with all of those, you are very limited to what you get, guides let you hunt one thing, duck blinds - one thing, out of state, etc...but what about when you want to go out and shoot some quail, try for a pig, and then shoot some squirrels, and then maybe stay up and try to get a 'yote or 2...this WU program seems to be the solution to that problem...and at a reasonable cost. And they quote a 78% success ratio on big game - so that means i'll have to spend less TIME to put meat in the freezer.

Since I live in SoCal, all of my hunting trips are going to cost me TIME, and usually a lot of it (at least 6 hours of driving each way for anything that walks, and min 3.5 hours for flying things) I already have a hard enough time to get to the places that i'm hunting, so I can't really afford to take 10 trips in order to see 1 pig...the numbers just don't work out for me. Now, if you live in Paso, and have to drive 15 min to hunt, then sure, it's probably reasonable to take the 1:10 odds, because, even worst-case you're all-in at under what it takes me to make 1 trip. But for those of us who aren't so blessed, WU is a good alternative.

and no, you can't have my other half a cent.

thanks,

pnd Report back after your first year as a member. I'd love to know if your opinions have changed. It's a lot of money, and you'll soon find out that your at the bottom of the list for hunting the best properties. It's kind of like a pyramid system. Good luck........and they do have a high turn over rate.

Spyder
02-01-2017, 8:54 AM
I live near a couple of their properties and most folks who I know that hunt them, like it. But they're all folks who have been hunting them for years, so maybe they get better options? I don't know how it works, as to who gets what access and when.

leadstorm
02-01-2017, 9:15 AM
Report back after your first year as a member. I'd love to know if your opinions have changed. It's a lot of money, and you'll soon find out that your at the bottom of the list for hunting the best properties. It's kind of like a pyramid system. Good luck........and they do have a high turn over rate.How about his first 9-1/2 years as a member? :D

Anyway, why not just pay a guide on a hunt-by-hunt basis? No long-term commitment required, and the established ones have access to properties that produce.

Jusgunn3
02-01-2017, 12:27 PM
I joined last year after doing a bunch of research. The sales pitch worked I guess haha. I got out a few times, met a few people, but killed nothing. I only got to get out a handful of times, but I did see animals on every property. I might freeze my membership because I have a kid otw. I wish I got the chance to get out to more properties and hunt. I Also hunted public land because it was closer a few times with also no success. Is it worth a few grand? If you have it sure, if not you might not be hunting very much anyways. At least for me its all expensive. A guided pig hunt is upwards of a grand the last time I went so in two hunts your paying the same as the price of the membership but you will have animals instead of just opportunity. Good Luck!

Bull Elk
02-01-2017, 3:42 PM
How about his first 9-1/2 years as a member? :D

Anyway, why not just pay a guide on a hunt-by-hunt basis? No long-term commitment required, and the established ones have access to properties that produce.

That's what I do.

BigBamBoo
02-01-2017, 3:45 PM
I guess I am lucky. I go knock on doors in the ranching community and have great success in gaining access to hunt on private property.

Worse they can say is no or get off my property.

.

evanboyle
02-01-2017, 4:04 PM
I have a membership, went inactive this year due to first child being born in sept. Good upland and duck properties, some awesome big game ranches, lots of stream access up near Lassen.. Worth the buy in / dues? Still not sure. May stay inactive again for next season but only because I bought into a duck club @ Lambertville and have a family lease in TX for deer. Like others have said - you may be better off paying a guide a few times a season. For folks who hunt a lot the value is there and there is NO preference for old timers getting the 'best spot'. Managed to draw my first choice blind for duck opener last year. If anyone else wants more details PM me.

Btw I am not an employee of WU nor would I bs on here on their behalf.

Paulflores185
02-06-2017, 8:03 PM
i am a wilderness unlimited member in so cal and was wondering if there was any other members who might want to go on a pig hunt. ive never gone hunting on a ranch yet and im looking forward to it. i am looking to hopefully get a bear this year too.. i have my twin brother that joined with me too but we are both new to the hunting community. we have been shooting for years but recently got into the hunt. we love the hunt. i hope wilderness unlimited was the right move. i plan on going soon so ill let you guys know how it goes. i need some hunting buddies..

Spyder
02-07-2017, 6:48 PM
Paul, you doing archery or rifle hunts? There's a WU property up by me that's archery only that is pretty dang good. Long drive for you though. I'm not a member, so can't hunt it, but I know there's animals!

Paulflores185
02-07-2017, 8:07 PM
Paul, you doing archery or rifle hunts? There's a WU property up by me that's archery only that is pretty dang good. Long drive for you though. I'm not a member, so can't hunt it, but I know there's animals!
i do rifle but i have been thinking of buying a bow because you get to hunt a month earlier than rifle and shotgun. as well as some ranches are bow only.