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jimster716
12-17-2011, 6:17 PM
Third time to the range today with the remy 700 and tried to get some groupings.

Rifle: Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD .308 Winchester
Stock: B&C Tactical Medalist M40 in OD w/ black web
Optics: Nikko Stirling Gameking 4-16x50 ($60 closeout special at Turners)
Muzzle Brake: Smith Enterprise Good Iron
Bi-pod: Harris BRM with Accessory #9 for flat bottom fore-end
Ammunition: American Eagle .308 Winchester 150gr FMJ Boat-tail
Rear bag: Caldwell

This is the 3rd time shooting my rifle which is my first .308 (also bought a DPMS AR-15 in October so my experience with rifles goes back about 6 weeks hahaha).

Overall: I need to practice more with this rifle but it's a lot of fun. It definitely outshoots me and I look forward to getting better. My first mistake was trying to set up for follow up shots by adjusting my body and not the rifle which was not good since the rifle would get displaced sitting on a towel after each shot. I really like the Nikko Stirling scope especially for $60 and it is bright. But it has really short eye relief. I may upgrade to a Nikon Monarch in the new year.

My last group of 5 shots @100 yards was my best but still had a flyer. But at least it looked like a recognizable grouping (aside from the flyer).

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3871/rem700121711.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4920/target121711final.jpg

fusionstar
12-17-2011, 6:54 PM
Good enough to take out an eye. Some match ammo will shrink that down to half. Looks like a MOA gun with that load, assuming those are 1/2" squares.

jimster716
12-17-2011, 7:01 PM
Good enough to take out an eye. Some match ammo will shrink that down to half. Looks like a MOA gun with that load, assuming those are 1/2" squares.

I wish those were 1/2" squares. They're 1" squares. I'm sure it's an MOA rifle, the shooter not so much. :D

BAGunner
12-17-2011, 7:31 PM
The culprit: "Ammunition: American Eagle .308 Winchester 150gr FMJ Boat-tail"
Use this:http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/358/358610.jpg

jimmykan
12-17-2011, 7:37 PM
Or this slightly cheaper alternative:

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/280/280175.jpg

jimster716
12-17-2011, 7:46 PM
The culprit: "Ammunition: American Eagle .308 Winchester 150gr FMJ Boat-tail"
Use this:http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/358/358610.jpg

I actually have 3 boxes of these waiting in the wings at home. But judging by the other groups, I thought it prudent to practice more before whipping out the expensive stuff. ;)

thedudeabides
12-17-2011, 8:44 PM
+1 on the gold metal match.

shoots great in my aac sd, couldnt ask for more in the price range

jonjonkills101
12-18-2011, 12:28 AM
first time with american eagle and power shok i got similar groupings maybe a little worst. first time i bought gold medal match, my best 5 shot grouping shrunk to 1 big hole on a pretty consistent basis. (bipod/sidebag rear) ever since then i dont' even want to bother with non-match haha.

you might see better results since you have a diff stock that might prevent contact with the barrel.

Ziggy91
12-18-2011, 12:39 AM
Rifle looks awesome!!!
Good luck on your shooting, I'm sure those groups will tighten up with practice ;)
I know I'd be at the range every week if I had the money to shoot .308 with that thing

AlliedArmory
12-18-2011, 12:43 AM
Just practice and take your time shooting. The groups will definitely shrink.

I would definitely get some match ammo if you plan to shoot groups though. Add a trigger and some FGMM and you will be shooting .5moa groups in no time.

russ69
12-18-2011, 1:30 AM
You are doing pretty good. Your next step is handloading....

jimster716
12-18-2011, 2:36 PM
You are doing pretty good. Your next step is handloading....

Thanks. I'd like to get into handloading but the pricing per round plus the investment seems to make the expense of occasional purchases of match ammo kind of a wash. Of course, I'd like to make my own consistent custom loads and it looks like a lot of fun, having a greater hand in my own progression as a rifleman. I'll probably have it on my wishlist for next year...after the 1911 .45 and maybe a midlength AR build.

spencerk
12-18-2011, 2:45 PM
Thats really not bad. Better than most people i see at the range. Saw a guy with a similar R700 at the range i go to yesterday shooting 5" groupings at 50 yards. he even had a nice looking spotting scope with him. His rifle was definatly capable of .5 MOA groupings. Its all about the shooter (and obviously partly the rifle and load cosistancy) and the way your going i would be pretty excited. I remember my first one inch grouping... totally put a chill through my spine.

Good Shooting

fusionstar
12-18-2011, 3:23 PM
Yea, some guys I see at the range with multi thousand dollar rifles cant keep a 2" group to save their lives, even with a lead sled. I actually out-shot a guy with a CZ 452 American 22lr vs his tricked out savage 308 topped with a huge NF... said he "borrowed it" It was a great day.

I got into reloading for less than $150 with a lee press + precision 308 dies. Made the difference in half a year of casual shooting all the while having better than commercial match ammo. Actually cost me $0.441 per round vs $1.00+

Before the price increase on match primers and bullets, I was shoot match 308 loads for less than 30 cents a round.

ZX-10R
12-18-2011, 5:07 PM
That is you and for sure and not the gun. You can do better. Practice with normal ammo before you start going match grade. You will be wasting money if you do not have technique and skill set down.

Good job but keep practicing.

dlouie87
12-19-2011, 11:57 AM
get better ammo. the 168SMK are great up to 600 yards... anything pass that you'll need 175

jimster716
12-19-2011, 7:31 PM
That is you and for sure and not the gun. You can do better. Practice with normal ammo before you start going match grade. You will be wasting money if you do not have technique and skill set down.

Good job but keep practicing.

Definitely the rifle is far better than I am. Yeah, I got the match ammo on sale but I had no plans on shooting the match ammo until I felt like I was at a place to best use and not waste them.

I got into reloading for less than $150 with a lee press + precision 308 dies. Made the difference in half a year of casual shooting all the while having better than commercial match ammo. Actually cost me $0.441 per round vs $1.00+

Before the price increase on match primers and bullets, I was shoot match 308 loads for less than 30 cents a round.

Yeah, I've been reading further into reloading and I think it's jumped up the priority list above the .45 1911 and the midlength AR build. At the rate I'm shooting (most weekends now), it would be a sound investment.

jimster716
12-24-2011, 12:08 PM
Went to the Angeles range again today. 12/24/11

Fired off a few groups using the AE 150gr.

Then I shot a last group of 5 using the Federal SMK 168gr match rounds. Wow, those match rounds are awesome. But the expense is forcing me to order a reloading setup.

2 shots were practically on top of each other. I have never had a grouping like this using the AE 150gr FMJs, not even close.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5704/target2122411hdr.jpg

Of course, after this last group, I said "sweet" and ran away. I went to my AR and shot at the steel targets at 200 and 300 yds. I should've done a couple more groups with the .308 Federal SMK's to validate consistency but ran out of targets and it's my little Christmas present. Hahahaha.

shortround1
12-24-2011, 1:02 PM
I actually have 3 boxes of these waiting in the wings at home. But judging by the other groups, I thought it prudent to practice more before whipping out the expensive stuff. ;)

Your Remington will love 168 gr. match ammo.

Pete1979
12-24-2011, 1:33 PM
Great shooting, I have tried just about every bullet/powder/primer combo in my SPS Tac and always seem to go back to the 168 or 175 SMK. The 168 AMAX shoots just as good but you need to seat the bullet about .120 further out.
There is a lady who shoots at Angeles who has a rifle identical to mine (the SPS Tac before the AAC came out) and we shoot the same loads. If you want to try loading a few with us before buying all the stuff, pick up a box of sierra 2200s from the reloading store, grab your empty brass and shoot me a PM. I'm in Northridge.
I typically get 1/2 to 5/8 MOA out of mine off the bench if I can hold still...

jimster716
12-24-2011, 8:53 PM
Great shooting, I have tried just about every bullet/powder/primer combo in my SPS Tac and always seem to go back to the 168 or 175 SMK. The 168 AMAX shoots just as good but you need to seat the bullet about .120 further out.
There is a lady who shoots at Angeles who has a rifle identical to mine (the SPS Tac before the AAC came out) and we shoot the same loads. If you want to try loading a few with us before buying all the stuff, pick up a box of sierra 2200s from the reloading store, grab your empty brass and shoot me a PM. I'm in Northridge.
I typically get 1/2 to 5/8 MOA out of mine off the bench if I can hold still...

Wow, I may very well take you up on that generous offer even if I buy all the reloading stuff as I would be a complete newb to handloads. Your experience would be more important than specific recipes. Thanks very much! I'll hit you up soon post-holidays. :)