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Mac7504
12-16-2011, 11:38 AM
As some of you may know, I’ve been debating like crazy over which DD M4 to go with…
I know both are good.

Since I cannot decide for myself, I want other peeps input. Yeah it’s my gun, and blah blah, but I just really can’t decide; I like em both. I’ve debated and debated, flipped coins, and even tossed darts – all to no avail.
(I understand the only real freedom we have is choice, but I’ll give it up in this instance).
; ))

So help me spend my $$$

Pics for ref.
v7
http://i43.tinypic.com/4tprtz.jpg
v5
http://i41.tinypic.com/16hixhj.jpg

All my buddies like the V5, but the lighter config on the v7 is interesting (however, was told by DD that it will muzzle climb a bit more than the 5).

PolishMike
12-16-2011, 11:47 AM
Do you want/need full rails?

Boom question answered ;-)

JimA77
12-16-2011, 11:55 AM
Do you want/need full rails?

Boom question answered ;-)

That's why I say V7 plenty of rail available for almost anyone. I like the look also.

Fictitious Simily
12-16-2011, 11:57 AM
I love my V5. Never used a V7.
I voted for my V5 :D

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 11:58 AM
Do you want/need full rails?

Boom question answered ;-)

Not really, but the trade off would be muzzle climb, due to the lighter config.

Going to go again this weekend and "feel" them up again and see which is more balanced.

Keep em comin guys/gals.

Roots
12-16-2011, 11:59 AM
Muzzle climb - add some evil stuff to the front then.

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 12:14 PM
Muzzle climb - add some evil stuff to the front then.

Ahh very true...I just don't like to add a bunch of stuff on my arms.

grant22
12-16-2011, 12:22 PM
What is the main thing you plan on doing with this rifle? That matters quite a bit.

Puting that aside, I vote for the clean 'non rail' look.

MongooseV8
12-16-2011, 12:39 PM
I have a v5 with the govt profile and decided to order a lightweight barrel to swap out to save a bunch of uneeded weight off the front of my rifle. Not enough advantage for me to use anything but a lightweight barrel.

I then pulled off the dd rail and went to a Troy Trx extreme to save more weight and get a longer sight radius. I vote for the v7 with a lightweight barrel.

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 12:46 PM
What is the main thing you plan on doing with this rifle? That matters quite a bit.

Puting that aside, I vote for the clean 'non rail' look.

Will just be a range toy.

pyro3k2
12-16-2011, 12:51 PM
Will just be a range toy.

V7 then, but if at any point you want to make it a "go-to" rifle then I would go with the V5

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 1:06 PM
V7 then, but if at any point you want to make it a "go-to" rifle then I would go with the V5

Can you expound on this? Are you talking about social work...lol. DD explained that one rail is not stronger than the other, just lighter.

smattenson
12-16-2011, 1:08 PM
I really liked the way the v7 felt so I put down my deposit on a DD m4 V7. I don't have mine yet so I cannot comment on how one fires over the other, but anyway you look at it they all are great guns. Do what I did and go check them out (if you have the ability to shoot them both even better).

HKDoc
12-16-2011, 1:13 PM
V5, for the tacticool look!

cmace22
12-16-2011, 1:18 PM
I went the V7 route...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/cmace22/DSC00907Mod.jpg

engi
12-16-2011, 1:42 PM
Go v7. I doubt the muzzle climb will be significant nor would I care since it is a range toy.

grant22
12-16-2011, 1:45 PM
Will just be a range toy.

Ahhh, range toy, like 99% of us.....cool. I don't think muzzle rise is gonna be an issue at the range with the lighter one. If it were me, I'd get the one you 'like' better. I'd pick the lighter of the two, besides, it may become a varmint hunting rifle in your future, too. If it does, you'll appreciate the lighter weight.

Jyruiz
12-16-2011, 2:11 PM
I would go with the V7.

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 2:27 PM
I went the V7 route...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/cmace22/DSC00907Mod.jpg

Very nice.

Which flip ups? and Bi-pod?

SoCalSig1911
12-16-2011, 2:30 PM
I have the V1, I would go V5 if the choice were between those 2.

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 2:34 PM
I really liked the way the v7 felt so I put down my deposit on a DD m4 V7. I don't have mine yet so I cannot comment on how one fires over the other, but anyway you look at it they all are great guns. Do what I did and go check them out (if you have the ability to shoot them both even better).

Honestly, I did too. Truly, my only concern with the v7 was the durability of the rail and muzzle climb, however small it might be.

My smallish girly hands will probably like the V7 a bit more. I appreciate everyone input; I'm going to go fondle them some more tomorrow and let you all know which I will be drosing

Noah3683
12-16-2011, 2:37 PM
I'm not a big tube fan, so I chose the V5. I have the V5 LW now and prefer it to regular profile I had

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 2:50 PM
From what I've gathered, many with a V5 have swapped over to a lighter config LW barrel...??? If this is the case, it seems like the V7 would be a better choice (weight saving).

Noah3683
12-16-2011, 2:56 PM
From what I've gathered, many with a V5 have swapped over to a lighter config LW barrel...??? If this is the case, it seems like the V7 would be a better choice (weight saving).

I did, but it still wasn't really heavy anyway. In fact it was lighter than my BCM with 9" troy rail

cmace22
12-16-2011, 2:57 PM
Very nice.

Which flip ups? and Bi-pod?

Troy flip ups and an Atlas Bi-pod. I added the MIAD grip and switched out the MOE stock (did not like at all) for a B5 SOPMOD. Next on the list is a good trigger. I have an LMT 2-stage Im going to try out first.

Its getting some good glass as soon as I decide what I want.

Honestly The V7 is perfect for me. I have ZERO need for a railed HG. The tube is clean, smooth,light weight and fits my hand nicely. It honestly handles better than my Mid length in my avatar! Weight between the V5 and V7 cannot be much and muzzle rise would probably be indistinguishable! If it is and its an issue... get a comp!

The rail is solid and Ive read no reports of issues with it getting loose. Its a really good design and locks into the receiver by way of cut outs on the HG.

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 3:17 PM
Troy flip ups and an Atlas Bi-pod. I added the MIAD grip and switched out the MOE stock (did not like at all) for a B5 SOPMOD. Next on the list is a good trigger. I have an LMT 2-stage Im going to try out first.

Its getting some good glass as soon as I decide what I want.

Honestly The V7 is perfect for me. I have ZERO need for a railed HG. The tube is clean, smooth,light weight and fits my hand nicely. It honestly handles better than my Mid length in my avatar! Weight between the V5 and V7 cannot be much and muzzle rise would probably be indistinguishable! If it is and its an issue... get a comp!

The rail is solid and Ive read no reports of issues with it getting loose. Its a really good design and locks into the receiver by way of cut outs on the HG.

I'm sorry but what is a comp...??? lol. You are probably correct, in that, I won't notice the difference in muzzle climb. When I spoke to DD, they said it was negligible, but dunno about that.

After the sights, I think I will be adding a BCM charging handle with extended latch (Vltor), I really like the way it feels over DD's. That and a prince 50 bb or free lock mini kit.

cmace22
12-16-2011, 3:22 PM
I'm sorry but what is a comp...??? lol. You are probably correct, in that, I won't notice the difference in muzzle climb. When I spoke to DD, they said it was negligible, but dunno about that.

After the sights, I think I will be adding a BCM charging handle with extended latch (Vltor), I really like the way it feels over DD's. That and a prince 50 bb or free lock mini kit.

Compensator like the Battle comp, TTO, FCS556 and so on. Im sure DD is right about it being negligible! You can shoot mine if you are in the LA area at Angeles. Its the Prince 50.

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 3:30 PM
Compensator like the Battle comp, TTO, FCS556 and so on. Im sure DD is right about it being negligible! You can shoot mine if you are in the LA area at Angeles. Its the Prince 50.

Awe, ok, I knew what that was...:D

Honestly, that would be awesome. I would have no problem bringing the ammo, and extra for your trouble; are you heading up this weekend by any chance?

I've actually got to run a few more shots through my Pa459 and finally shoot the Bersa .380 I picked up two weeks ago. Meh, for the heck of it maybe my new .357 sig barrel on my M&P. :cool2:

marathonman
12-16-2011, 4:03 PM
I went with V7. Am I going to add more than 4 attachments? No. Just BUIS and maybe a light and maybe a vert foregrip. I like the smooth feel of the V7. Has a nice M1919 look :)

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/mg59/m1919a4_2.jpg

Mac7504
12-16-2011, 4:15 PM
Better than the KG9 (Tec9) comment I was getting..haha

http://i44.tinypic.com/apd442.png

cmace22
12-16-2011, 4:39 PM
Awe, ok, I knew what that was...:D

Honestly, that would be awesome. I would have no problem bringing the ammo, and extra for your trouble; are you heading up this weekend by any chance?

I've actually got to run a few more shots through my Pa459 and finally shoot the Bersa .380 I picked up two weeks ago. Meh, for the heck of it maybe my new .357 sig barrel on my M&P. :cool2:

If I dont work Ill be up on sunday. PM me your number.

intheknow
12-16-2011, 4:41 PM
which ever weighs less:shrug:

tradecraft
12-16-2011, 4:54 PM
I just went through the same dilemma but my choice was a little easier - I picked the V7 since I already have a V3.

15thaf5thbw
12-16-2011, 9:21 PM
:kest:I coulda had a V8!!

glock7
12-17-2011, 7:12 AM
i have to agree with you, it's a tough call. depends on what you want. i chose the v5, but i'd be happy with the v7.

Mac7504
12-28-2011, 11:53 AM
Anyone with a V7 care to throw up a few pics of the back sides of the 3 inch picatinny rails? I'm looking specifically at the mounting hardward.

sirsloth
12-28-2011, 4:53 PM
I would get the V7 since it's lighter. Also, if you ever change your mind, it will be A LOT easier to find an aftermarket Omega X 12.0 rail than the newer V7 rail.

jm13690
12-28-2011, 5:00 PM
I would get the V7 since it's lighter. Also, if you ever change your mind, it will be A LOT easier to find an aftermarket Omega X 12.0 rail than the newer V7 rail.

Yeah there are DD rails popping up in the used section all the time.

cmace22
12-28-2011, 5:05 PM
Anyone with a V7 care to throw up a few pics of the back sides of the 3 inch picatinny rails? I'm looking specifically at the mounting hardward.

I dont have any pics but the rail section is held in place by a metal retainer that rides in the rail slot on the HG. Its just a friction fit between the rail and the retainer. Do you have a more specific question? The rails are extremely easy to remove or place elsewhere on the HG.

You can see them on the inside of the HG in this photo.

https://danieldefense.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image1.jpg

Mac7504
12-29-2011, 12:59 PM
I would get the V7 since it's lighter. Also, if you ever change your mind, it will be A LOT easier to find an aftermarket Omega X 12.0 rail than the newer V7 rail.

I hear ya. The thing is, cost is becoming a factor in deciding now. While the V7 is a bit cheaper, adding a DD forward grip ($49 otd), plus two additional rails ($29 each=$60) vs the V5 which comes with a forward grip and no need for rails has me re-thinking.

Not to mention, I'm not completely sold on modular setups. I did have a chance to actually look at the mounting system (Doesn't seem bad), but not sure if I'd be happy fiddling with rails down the line. Also, it seems (at least to me) that the MFR can scratch pretty easy. The ones I've seen on display have some nice scratches on them, just from handling; I just like to keep my stuff looking new.

For now, I’ve decided to put down on a V5, mostly so I could be put on the list (they are completely out of stock) but they have plenty of V7’s and I simply switch if I change my mind.

It's such as hard choice, one of the most difficult choices I've had to make..haha