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anothergunnut
12-15-2011, 7:59 PM
My question isn't really where to get barrels to store water in; craigslist has plenty for sale. My question is how do you know they are safe to use for drinking water? All the ads claim that they were used for food products but I have my doubts. I can't believe there is that much food product shipped in 50 gallon drums. Here in the Modesto area, the only place that I am aware of that uses large plastic drums is Hilmar Cheese. But I see lots of these barrels used for chemicals. The barrels I have seen pictured have all been cleaned and had their labels removed so it's not obvious what was in them. Any suggestions?

TheChief
12-15-2011, 9:25 PM
The simple and expensive solution is to only buy new food grade barrels so you don't have to worry. If you buy online, plan for about $100 per barrel delivered to your door. You may be able to find them locally for around $60 though.

Good luck.

HIG541
12-15-2011, 9:35 PM
They use them all the time for syrups. Thats what most of the good grade ones are

Saym14
12-15-2011, 9:54 PM
anyone know where to get them in LA / OC / IE area for a decent price? new or used

Foriegn power
12-15-2011, 11:03 PM
CRAIGSLIST, type in plastic 55 gallon drum barrels

thenodnarb
12-15-2011, 11:07 PM
CRAIGSLIST, type in plastic 55 gallon drum barrels

This. I've met the guy in the chino area and he is friendly, has thousands of barrels and they are cheap. He knows which ones are food grade, and will give you the right ones.

T72MKIV
12-15-2011, 11:20 PM
I picked up two from http://www.sosproducts.com/

They're in Van Nuys near the Budweiser factory.

socal-shooter
12-15-2011, 11:38 PM
contact this calgunner in o.c $20 each, you pick up

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=435295

11HE9
12-16-2011, 12:34 AM
If you search "Food grade barrels" on Craigs list, it should bring up quite a few hits. I found a guy not far from me on the outskirts of Sacramento. He has several types to pick from, most have only been used for fruit juice.

Anyone know anything about Alum used for water treatment? I can get all the blue barrels I want from work. I have two 55 gallon barrels that I keep filled for toilet flushing in a "emergency" situation, but no way am I going to risk using it for anything else until I get more information :TFH:

anothergunnut
12-16-2011, 9:20 PM
But how do you know it was really used for food and not toxic chemicals?

cranemech
12-16-2011, 9:33 PM
If you search "Food grade barrels" on Craigs list, it should bring up quite a few hits. I found a guy not far from me on the outskirts of Sacramento. He has several types to pick from, most have only been used for fruit juice.

Anyone know anything about Alum used for water treatment? I can get all the blue barrels I want from work. I have two 55 gallon barrels that I keep filled for toilet flushing in a "emergency" situation, but no way am I going to risk using it for anything else until I get more information :TFH:

If it's the same guy I'm thinking of, I got my buckets from him. I think the barrels he had still had the labels on them.

madland
12-16-2011, 9:54 PM
anyone know where to get them in LA / OC / IE area for a decent price? new or used

M&I Surplus in Pomona has new and used ones..sorry can't remember the price but I want to say around $80-90 bucks for the new ones with threaded lids if memory serves me correct.

Jayacts
12-17-2011, 1:52 AM
BPA Free 55 gallon drums at a decent price, with pump:

http://www.calquakeinlandempire.com/storetitles/water/wtrsys.html

Librarian
12-17-2011, 2:54 AM
If you search "Food grade barrels" on Craigs list, it should bring up quite a few hits. I found a guy not far from me on the outskirts of Sacramento. He has several types to pick from, most have only been used for fruit juice.

Anyone know anything about Alum used for water treatment? I can get all the blue barrels I want from work. I have two 55 gallon barrels that I keep filled for toilet flushing in a "emergency" situation, but no way am I going to risk using it for anything else until I get more information :TFH:

You need a real chemist, but it looks like a washed barrel would be low-risk; see http://www.jmloveridge.com/cosh/Alum%20(Potash).pdf

The stuff is water soluble so it should wash out well.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum

Dutch3
12-17-2011, 7:31 AM
The barrels I have were used for fruit juice and still have the stenciled information on them. Around here, there are quite a few of the wide mouth drums available for cheap (I have seen them for $5), but they are often used for pickling olives, so have a residual vinegar odor that is not easy to remove.

VictorFranko
12-17-2011, 7:44 AM
Why screw around with used barrels?
Even though they may be stenciled and may have originally contained food products, you really have no idea what has been stored in them or where these used barrels have been.
You are going to risk your water supply, and maybe your life, on some stranger from Craigslist?

anothergunnut
12-17-2011, 9:02 AM
BPA Free 55 gallon drums at a decent price, with pump:

http://www.calquakeinlandempire.com/storetitles/water/wtrsys.html

Wish I could find a new barrel for $60 in Nor Cal, that would be an easy choice.

Lex
12-17-2011, 9:48 AM
There is a guy in Chino has a huge supply of them. I got like 6 55 gal barrels from him and got another 20 from my friends.

thomashoward
12-17-2011, 12:34 PM
Wish I could find a new barrel for $60 in Nor Cal, that would be an easy choice.

Bataff Salvage on Mt. View Ave Santa Rosa has barrels. Big wide mouth that have the labels still on that were olive barrels from Israel

Dubious_Beans
12-17-2011, 1:29 PM
Bataff Salvage on Mt. View Ave Santa Rosa has barrels. Big wide mouth that have the labels still on that were olive barrels from Israel

Yep. Bataeff is where I get mine.
I got a few that had Dr. Pepper concentrate in them. They still stank of Dr.P.

Some barrels you will have to let stand full of clean water, drain, rinse, repeat quite a few times before the smell goes away.

Then I let them stand for a few days with bleach in them to make sure they're sterile.

Reading the labels on some of the "food" flavoring concentrates is kind of creepy...

http://www.weirdstuffwemake.com/blackhole/images/flammable%20liquid_0054.gif

http://www.weirdstuffwemake.com/blackhole/images/label_0132.gif

Librarian
12-17-2011, 2:02 PM
Yep. Bataeff is where I get mine.
I got a few that had Dr. Pepper concentrate in them. They still stank of Dr.P.

Some barrels you will have to let stand full of clean water, drain, rinse, repeat quite a few times before the smell goes away.

Then I let them stand for a few days with bleach in them to make sure they're sterile.



Have you tried the bleach treatment before the multiple rinse cycles? That is, will bleach shorten the number of needed rinses to get out the residual odors?

11HE9
12-17-2011, 2:08 PM
If it's the same guy I'm thinking of, I got my buckets from him. I think the barrels he had still had the labels on them.
The guy on Elder Creek rd? I haven't bought anything from him yet, does he have lids for the 5gal buckets?

You need a real chemist, but it looks like a washed barrel would be low-risk; see http://www.jmloveridge.com/cosh/Alum%20(Potash).pdf

The stuff is water soluble so it should wash out well.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum
The two barrels I have have been rinced multiple times, but I think I'll still check with an expert before using that water for consumption.

Dubious_Beans
12-17-2011, 2:27 PM
Have you tried the bleach treatment before the multiple rinse cycles? That is, will bleach shorten the number of needed rinses to get out the residual odors?

I don't know. It might shorten the number of rinse cycles required
I'm never in a hurry for the barrels and water is cheap here so I just fill them up let stand a few days then dump them out. I probably give them 4 - 6 cycles or so before bleaching.

Two of the worst ones I cleaned contained Crystal hot sauce. There was still about 1/2 cup of hot sauce dregs in each barrel and they really smelled.
Even after repeated rinsing they stank so I used one to store fuel and the other one I cut in half and planted cayenne peppers in the 1/2 barrels. :)

FatCity67
12-17-2011, 2:38 PM
My question isn't really where to get barrels to store water in; craigslist has plenty for sale. My question is how do you know they are safe to use for drinking water? All the ads claim that they were used for food products but I have my doubts. I can't believe there is that much food product shipped in 50 gallon drums. Here in the Modesto area, the only place that I am aware of that uses large plastic drums is Hilmar Cheese. But I see lots of these barrels used for chemicals. The barrels I have seen pictured have all been cleaned and had their labels removed so it's not obvious what was in them. Any suggestions?

Get ahold of this Calgunner. He's in Norcal.



http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=438144&highlight=water

sammy
12-17-2011, 4:21 PM
Wish I could find a new barrel for $60 in Nor Cal, that would be an easy choice.

I have several 55 gallon HDPE food grade plastics for just $10.00 a piece. Located in Concord.

Dutch3
12-17-2011, 5:02 PM
I have several 55 gallon HDPE food grade plastics for just $10.00 a piece. Located in Concord.

The poster is looking for new barrels; he also specified Nor Cal.

Used barrels in Concord are neither new nor in Nor Cal. Just saying.

cranemech
12-17-2011, 5:47 PM
Water barrel at Costco (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11610210&search=water&Mo=51&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=50000)

I_Love_My_.38
12-17-2011, 5:48 PM
Why screw around with used barrels?
Even though they may be stenciled and may have originally contained food products, you really have no idea what has been stored in them or where these used barrels have been.
You are going to risk your water supply, and maybe your life, on some stranger from Craigslist?

Yeah, I bought five from some guy in lodi off of craigslist, never ended up drinking from them, couldnt risk it, ended up cutting them in pieces and trashing them. When I do get back to rain water harvesting, I wont go cheap this time,

10 rounds
12-17-2011, 7:32 PM
+ 1 for http://www.sosproducts.com/

gorn5150
12-17-2011, 8:15 PM
The poster is looking for new barrels; he also specified Nor Cal.

Used barrels in Concord are neither new nor in Nor Cal. Just saying.

When did Concord shift south? Unless there has been a major geographic shift it still is north. I need to invent a fact checking add on for the snooty/snippy Internet unknowing know it alls then I could live a life of luxury.

bombadillo
12-17-2011, 8:21 PM
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11610210&search=emergency&Mo=75&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=emergency&Ntt=emergency&No=39&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

The real deal. No barrels with chemicals, food or anything else. Just a straight 55gal water drum with a bung, wrench, and pump. Perfect for what you're doing. Not cheap, but worth it if you need it.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/557901.jpg

I have one and love it.

I_Love_My_.38
12-17-2011, 8:26 PM
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11610210&search=emergency&Mo=75&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=emergency&Ntt=emergency&No=39&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

The real deal. No barrels with chemicals, food or anything else. Just a straight 55gal water drum with a bung, wrench, and pump. Perfect for what you're doing. Not cheap, but worth it if you need it.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/557901.jpg

I have one and love it.

Thank you for this. I was loving it up until it said made in the USA, then I was sold. I will buy it in the future.

bombadillo
12-17-2011, 8:43 PM
Sure. I own one and its great. Can't go wrong even if you pay a few bucks more. If something ever fails, it can also go back to Costco with no questions asked.

Dutch3
12-17-2011, 9:10 PM
When did Concord shift south? Unless there has been a major geographic shift it still is north. I need to invent a fact checking add on for the snooty/snippy Internet unknowing know it alls then I could live a life of luxury.

Concord is south SF Bay Area, not Nor Cal.

Used barrels are not new. Hard to believe, but it is true.

Avarice
12-17-2011, 9:15 PM
Craigslist has plenty. Just ask what was in them and avoid oils and chemicals. The ones I've seen say that they had tomato puree in them. CHEAP!

Librarian
12-17-2011, 10:41 PM
Concord is south SF Bay Area, not Nor Cal.

Used barrels are not new. Hard to believe, but it is true.

Bah!

Norcal starts at the southern boundary of San Luis Obispo county.

Sort of. Population balance is about there - see http://www.wrsc.org/attach_image/california-population-distribution

Real geographic southern boundary is about 32 deg 30 min N, northern boundary 42 deg N, so 37 deg 15 min N would be about half way, the norcal-socal line; that's about even with Saratoga, south of San Jose.

Concord is at 37 deg 56 min N - north of the midline.

dirtyJ
12-18-2011, 12:44 AM
Herp a derp, the prima donnas in this thread are crazy. Sammy's barrels are more than adequate for drinking water from. They used to contain sorbitol, which is a colorless, odorless sweetener, and is water soluble. I've got 6 that I rotate every year here at the house, and the water is 100% safe to drink.

Ripon83
12-18-2011, 12:48 AM
The gentlemen in Concord has been a pleasure to deal with. To me "Nor Cal" means north of Bakersfield bay area or not....everyone has a different view. Concord is about 60 minutes from Modesto with heavy traffic. The original post didn't ask for new he asked for barrels that were safe to use.

You could always buy a restaurant grade sanitizer solution that usually mixes with water use that to wash down the barrels - after that I'd feel good about them if they were used for food items - which the gentlemen in Concord says his have.....I have not bought from him yet but intend too.


Concord is south SF Bay Area, not Nor Cal.

Used barrels are not new. Hard to believe, but it is true.

VictorFranko
12-18-2011, 6:40 AM
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11610210&search=emergency&Mo=75&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=emergency&Ntt=emergency&No=39&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

The real deal. No barrels with chemicals, food or anything else. Just a straight 55gal water drum with a bung, wrench, and pump. Perfect for what you're doing. Not cheap, but worth it if you need it.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/557901.jpg

I have one and love it.

This is my set-up.......(but I have more than one barrel)

In the Ventura County & North Los Angles County area (located in Moorpark), these guys have a good supply of emergency equipment:

QuakeKare (http://www.quakekare.com/)

Dutch3
12-18-2011, 7:08 AM
If a barrel had been used to store vodka, would it in effect be pre-sanitized?

I don't have a problem with used barrels provided they don't retain the odor of previously stored foodstuffs.

sammy
12-18-2011, 8:21 AM
Yeah, I bought five from some guy in lodi off of craigslist, never ended up drinking from them, couldnt risk it, ended up cutting them in pieces and trashing them. When I do get back to rain water harvesting, I wont go cheap this time,



So you are havesting rain water and are worried about contamination? Have you heard about this place called Fukushima, Japan?

Just google hot particle Fukushima, Japan.


A Simple Pump http://www.simplepump.com/ is what I have as a back up for my well. No way my kids are drinking wain water. Only as a last option.

And no, I don't work or sell anything from Simple Pump.

Shellshocker66
12-18-2011, 9:04 AM
If you're looking for "New" Sam's Club actually has a better price then Costco.
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod1842032&navAction=
$68.88 with the chemicals and the pump. Can have it delivered to your local Sam's.

thomashoward
12-18-2011, 10:00 AM
Have you tried the bleach treatment before the multiple rinse cycles? That is, will bleach shorten the number of needed rinses to get out the residual odors?

My emergency water barrel is a washed out providone iodine barrel from the dairy.I put a hose bib and a filler cap on it.
We actually PUT bleach in it so the water won't grow moss. I dump it every 2-3 years and start over. My wife's empty bleach bottles get a quick rinse then filled. Residual bleach will keep things from growing in it. Turn on your outside water full blast and you will smell the bleach the water treatment plant puts in city water. Kind of like a swimming pool.

bombadillo
12-18-2011, 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorn5150 View Post
When did Concord shift south? Unless there has been a major geographic shift it still is north. I need to invent a fact checking add on for the snooty/snippy Internet unknowing know it alls then I could live a life of luxury.

Concord is south SF Bay Area, not Nor Cal.

Used barrels are not new. Hard to believe, but it is true.


http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50506_76350107517_1079671_n.jpg


Nor-Cal, Mid-Cal, So-Cal...

gorn5150
12-18-2011, 2:51 PM
I've lived in Cal my whole life and this is the first time i've seen mid cal thrown into anything. It's always been northern cal (san jose and north) or southern cal (south of san jose).

If the State was ever broken down to 3 like that map shouldn't "mid cal" be central cal? So that map should be upper cal, mid cal, lower cal. I guess I could make up a map with 10 divisions of the state. We could call it Metric Cal.

bombadillo
12-18-2011, 3:21 PM
I actually do call it "central california" rather than mid cal, but you get the idea. Nor-Cal is MUCH further north than San Jose, so I can't stand it being called northern california most times. I live 5 hours north from S.F. and most people call SF "Nor-Cal" which drives me nuts.