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shark92651
03-06-2007, 3:37 PM
I have a rifle with a Magpul PRS and a railed forearm. I was thinking about getting a pair of front and rear bags so that I could start to get into some precision shooting. What would you recommend for this rifle and stock, without spending too much money? Also, do you think a couple bags would be a better investment than getting a monopod for the PRS?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/409433804_675317c827_b.jpg

mr2.0
03-06-2007, 4:02 PM
I'd rather get the right length monopod with adjustable to adjust it exactly where you want it to be.

proraptor
03-06-2007, 4:04 PM
I dont hear very many good things about the monopod....I hear bags are better

ocabj
03-06-2007, 4:16 PM
http://www.ocabj.net/gallery/albums/desaye_rifle_rest/IMG_4474.sized.jpg

http://www.ocabj.net/gallery/desaye_rifle_rest/

I don't think you want to know how much it will cost to have one of these made.

Anyway, what kind of *precision* shooting are we talking about? If you're talking benchrest, then you'll want a pedestal front rest with a rear bag. If you're talking F-Class F/TR, then stick with the bipod and rear bag (assuming a rear rest is legal for F/TR).

shark92651
03-06-2007, 4:28 PM
ocabj,

I don't plan on doing any sort of competitive shooting just yet - right now I would just like to see how well I can shoot with my rifles, get good groups, and feel confident that I am shooting consistently enough to be able to notice differences between my rifles, different ammo, etc... Will my bipod and a rear bag suffice for this purpose? Sorry for the noob questions - but with a rear bag do you just squish it or shape it to adjust your aim or what?

proraptor
03-06-2007, 4:33 PM
http://www.ocabj.net/gallery/albums/desaye_rifle_rest/IMG_4474.sized.jpg

http://www.ocabj.net/gallery/desaye_rifle_rest/

I don't think you want to know how much it will cost to have one of these made.

Anyway, what kind of *precision* shooting are we talking about? If you're talking benchrest, then you'll want a pedestal front rest with a rear bag. If you're talking F-Class F/TR, then stick with the bipod and rear bag (assuming a rear rest is legal for F/TR).

Holy crap thats awesome.....How much did that run you?

ocabj
03-06-2007, 4:35 PM
Off a bench? I'm not a fan of bipods on a bench. You're going to find that pretty much any rifle shot off a bipod needs to be 'muscled' into place. You definitely don't want to free-recoil a rifle on a bipod. Most of the time, you won't be able to get the forward force on the rifle into the bipod while on a bench.

Personally, I'd just use sandbags for the front and rear if shooting off a bench. Most ranges have sandbags at each bench, or at least, I hope they do (Inland does).

If shooting prone, use the bipod with rear bag such as the one on this link:

http://triadtactical.com/store/item/vk78/MISC_Shooting_Gear/Redman_Rear_Bag_Olive_Drab.html

I have one of those bags in my tactical precision rig. Works good and you can squeeze/adjust it with your offhand to adjust elevation of the rear.

Mute
03-06-2007, 4:48 PM
I like bipod and accupod for field shooting and I don't want to drag a ton of equipment, otherwise for the range I use the Redman Tactical Pillow and rear bag that's available on the site ocabj linked.

shark92651
03-06-2007, 5:09 PM
I'm ordering up one of those Triad rear bags now. What is the "Tactical Pillow" you are referring to?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it.

proraptor
03-06-2007, 5:20 PM
shark can you post a link to it Id like to look at it also

xrMike
03-06-2007, 5:24 PM
What is the "Tactical Pillow" you are referring to?The wife and I have one of those, although I've never taken it to the range.

shark92651
03-06-2007, 5:29 PM
Here is the main product page of Red Tac gear that shows a rifle set up on his front and rear bags.

http://www.redmantactical.com/products.htm

Seems a little pricey to me. Cabela's has an adjustable front bench rest with bag for the same price.

shark92651
03-06-2007, 5:30 PM
The wife and I have one of those, although I've never taken it to the range.

Been doing some "precision work"? I think I've seen those, they are triangular in shape, right ;)

ocabj
03-06-2007, 6:21 PM
Holy crap thats awesome.....How much did that run you?

That's not mine. It belongs to a friend of mine who shoots at Inland. It was made by a man named Joe Desaye. It runs for $800, at least when my friend bought it.

There's a guy who also shoots at Inland who is a machinist, and he was able to duplicate the Desaye rest. But the materials alone cost around $600. It is aircraft grade aluminum from what I understand.

I don't shoot benchrest at any competitive level, but if I did, I'd definitely want a one piece unit like this.

Sandbags work fine for any bench shooting I do (ie: chronographing).

Prc329
03-06-2007, 7:09 PM
Here are my bags. They are actually a little low. I need taller ones. They work great with the MMG but are actually to low for my bullet-button builds

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0708.jpg

James R.
03-06-2007, 9:37 PM
Off a bench? I'm not a fan of bipods on a bench. You're going to find that pretty much any rifle shot off a bipod needs to be 'muscled' into place. You definitely don't want to free-recoil a rifle on a bipod. Most of the time, you won't be able to get the forward force on the rifle into the bipod while on a bench.

Personally, I'd just use sandbags for the front and rear if shooting off a bench. Most ranges have sandbags at each bench, or at least, I hope they do (Inland does).

If shooting prone, use the bipod with rear bag such as the one on this link:

http://triadtactical.com/store/item/vk78/MISC_Shooting_Gear/Redman_Rear_Bag_Olive_Drab.html

I have one of those bags in my tactical precision rig. Works good and you can squeeze/adjust it with your offhand to adjust elevation of the rear.

I've had pretty good luck with a bipod as my front rest when shooting from the bench. I don't free recoil the gun however (death grip). I agree free recoil does not work well on a bipod as the gun doesn't track straight and thus your groups will go to ****sville.

I use a Protektor type bag with the little rabbit ears, don't have a pic handy. Anyhow using a bone stock (save for trigger) Remington 700 and a Harris BR-S I can throw together a pretty decent 100 yard 5 shot group. Sadly I haven't taken my 700 out since the end of July (shame on me) but when I did this was my best group of the day, conditions weren't great either...

PS - Not sure I understand your muscle it into place comment. With the BR-S <- S model you can swivel left to right to level off the gun. I've never had a problem. My biggest issue has been elevation to the target relative to the bench...have to fiddle with the leg lengths, wish I'd gotten the notched version but they were out of stock.

http://www.apatheology.com/public_shares/images/BestGroup_07032006.jpg

Regards,

James R.

Mute
03-06-2007, 10:35 PM
I usually shoot prone or some field position as opposed to on a bench. However, when prone or on a bench I usually just use a front bag and support the rear of the rifle with my support hand. I use the support hand to adjust the angle for aiming. If you want to test your rifle's best abilities then, short of using a rest of some kind, a front and rear bag will probably eliminate the most amount of shooter induced errors. Maybe not completely but it will suffice.

mr2.0
03-07-2007, 12:16 AM
http://www.ctkprecision.com/product_detail/productdetail_p3monopod.htm

xrMike
03-07-2007, 8:30 AM
I've been using this up front:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=412484

and in the back:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=679278

Not sure how compatible the front rest would be with your bipod though...

shark92651
03-07-2007, 6:06 PM
http://www.ctkprecision.com/product_detail/productdetail_p3monopod.htm

Thats a nice looking monopod. It's a shame they all seem to be designed for stocks that have a sloped bottom edge and not for the straight bottom edge of the PRS - it makes them all kick back when mounted on the PRS.