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RAMCHARGER
12-12-2011, 1:39 PM
So now that the war in Iraq is ending there should be a glut of surplus 7.62 nato, right??.
Cuz I'm wanting a PTR 91 real bad :)

Noah3683
12-12-2011, 1:52 PM
So now that the war in Iraq is ending there should be a glut of surplus 7.62 nato, right??.
Cuz I'm wanting a PTR 91 real bad :)

Highly doubtful. 5.56 is in much wider use and Afghanistan is still ongoing regardless

DannyInSoCal
12-12-2011, 2:06 PM
It is standing by for Syria and Lybia.....

Squirrel-tactical
12-12-2011, 2:13 PM
^ That.

I think the only time you will see an inundation of current-use cartridges to the civilian market is if the military changes to a new cartridge.

MrPlink
12-12-2011, 2:31 PM
Ha, not likely. If O gets elected again prices may spike tho

zfields
12-12-2011, 2:36 PM
Ha, not likely. If O gets elected again prices may spike tho

Im the first to admit I am a little bit on the liberal side when it comes to certain things, but most the Dems' I know don't even support him anymore.

HK Dave
12-12-2011, 2:40 PM
Too bad there's no more surplus brass thanks to our current president.

nick
12-12-2011, 2:46 PM
Well, .308 is a much more popular caliber in Afghanistan, given the distances involved. So I highly doubt well much, if any, .308 surplus anytime soon. Especially given that the powers that be aren't too keen on selling it to civilians these days.

Noah3683
12-12-2011, 2:47 PM
Im the first to admit I am a little bit on the liberal side when it comes to certain things, but most the Dems' I know don't even support him anymore.Well the Republicans are massively dropping the ball, and with rumors that he may drop Biden and bring in Hellary as the VP candidate..... Things aren't looking good to unseat him.

nick
12-12-2011, 2:48 PM
Too bad there's no more surplus brass thanks to our current president.

I thought that one was resolved by an act of Congress?

zfields
12-12-2011, 2:49 PM
Well the Republicans are massively dropping the ball, and with rumors that he may drop Biden and bring in Hellary as the VP candidate..... Things aren't looking good to unseat him.

Moving to Canada seems reasonable now.

Noah3683
12-12-2011, 2:52 PM
Moving to Canada seems reasonable now.
Lol you may be right

rojocorsa
12-12-2011, 2:53 PM
We're still in Iraq. We're just subbing out the soldiers for contractors.

SlickmisterN
12-12-2011, 3:07 PM
Yeah and still using taxpayer money to fund the exercise, except now private firms are getting the dough...

rojocorsa
12-12-2011, 3:10 PM
Yeah and still using taxpayer money to fund the exercise, it's just that now, private firms are getting the dough...

At the very least that helps create jobs.


But it's probably not the greatest thing when the gov't is practically your employer by proxy. It is bad enough stateside with the gov't being so large... :oji:

HK Dave
12-12-2011, 3:10 PM
Well the Republicans are massively dropping the ball, and with rumors that he may drop Biden and bring in Hellary as the VP candidate..... Things aren't looking good to unseat him.

Lovely...

JAGACIDA
12-12-2011, 3:12 PM
This thread was about? I hope more becomes available a lot cheaper than the present. I like 308. Politics is for suckers. You should have learned by now. Watch the Grinch.

smle-man
12-12-2011, 3:53 PM
The only U.S. ball .308 we'll see for sale will condemned lots broken down as components. The Army is still shooting WW2 .50 ball for training so any serviceable 7.62 will be shot for training or service issue. Maybe LC cosmetic rejects will make it out for sale via Federal but that isn't surplus per se.

proclone1
12-12-2011, 4:22 PM
At the very least that helps create jobs.


But it's probably not the greatest thing when the gov't is practically your employer by proxy. It is bad enough stateside with the gov't being so large... :oji:

Actually, reading some of the books about PMC's in Iraq/Afghanistan was rather interesting. Blackwater (and triple-canopy, etc) discovered after awhile that "Hey, why pay American ex-mil $$$$$ when we can get South Americans (hondurans, panamanians [central americans :P], peruvians, etc) to do the same work for only $$". Wages for American contractors seemed to plummet.

Now, that work they were giving to south americans/asians was guard duty in a lot of cases, and for guarding high profile US civilians I'm sure they still used American ex-mil, but still.

We shouldn't be so quick to make a connection that "more contractors" = "more US jobs"! Ditto the idea that hiring contractors saves us money over using US military (see Haliburton et al). Moral of the story: don't trust anyone!!!!! lol

MrPlink
12-12-2011, 4:33 PM
^ yep. A lot of the PMCs from poorer places get paid crap compared to Americans, Brits etc etc

a1c
12-12-2011, 4:40 PM
That ammo is either going to be sold locally to PCs, or "donated" to the local military/police. Don't count on it coming back to the US and being sold on the civilian market.

Wherryj
12-12-2011, 6:08 PM
Moving to Canada seems reasonable now.

Moving to Somalia is even starting to look reasonable. :(

MrPlink
12-12-2011, 6:17 PM
Moving to Somalia is even starting to look reasonable. :(

bring some chickens, you can trade em for genuine FA Norinco AKs

HBchevelle68
12-12-2011, 6:39 PM
Ha, not likely. If O gets elected again prices may spike tho

Lets pray that doesn't happen

a1fabweld
12-12-2011, 6:44 PM
So now that the war in Iraq is ending there should be a glut of surplus 7.62 nato, right??.
Cuz I'm wanting a PTR 91 real bad :)

You're running out of time. If you really want a PTR & some fodder for it, whip out the cash & get it now while it's available. As it get's closer to election time, folks will hoard both guns & ammo like in 2009 where they were happy to pay 2x value just to have it.

Nice choice on your next rifle BTW! Can't go wrong.

Flying Bones
12-12-2011, 7:33 PM
No way is the price dropping.

Note to self: don't buy rope from liberal guy.

docsmileyface
12-12-2011, 7:49 PM
I noticed a lot more Federal M855 out on the market - hell, they sell it at Walmart in other states.

Noah3683
12-12-2011, 9:00 PM
bring some chickens, you can trade em for genuine FA Norinco AKs

:rofl2:

Noah3683
12-12-2011, 9:03 PM
No way is the price dropping.

Note to self: don't buy rope from liberal guy.

hahahaha that's funny too.... but those are nice slings... my buddy gave me the double cobra one.... at least he's a gunny

motorwerks
12-12-2011, 9:08 PM
I'm scared of the prices.... Been saving up ammo for a while. I have a feeling this is as low as we're going to see it for a while.

Full Clip
12-12-2011, 9:21 PM
It is standing by for Syria and Lybia.....

You mean Iran.

Ubermcoupe
12-12-2011, 9:25 PM
Well the Republicans are massively dropping the ball, and with rumors that he may drop Biden and bring in Hellary as the VP candidate..... Things aren't looking good to unseat him.

Why is this the first time I have heard this... Wow I need to get off here and get out more :p

Mamluke
12-12-2011, 10:29 PM
Heh heh heh heh.... WE AIN'T leaving Iraq bros, we're just changing the size of our footprint and limiting the exposure....

Worried about ammo prices going up?! Well you' ain't gonna believe what will happen to oil prices if Iran influence takes it to Bassra... or building the 'bomb'

Naah, all that ammo is gonna stay where it is at boys and gals .... in the sand box floating on an ocean of oil...

heh heh heh... :D

GM4spd
12-13-2011, 3:29 AM
I like shooting my Brit L1A1 but it's getting harder and more expensive to
find 762 NATO--especially NON magnetic! Pete

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themailman
12-13-2011, 4:21 AM
I guess there is still this war going on in a place called Afghanistan...crazy, I know.

BHPFan
12-13-2011, 5:18 AM
So now that the war in Iraq is ending there should be a glut of surplus 7.62 nato, right??.
Cuz I'm wanting a PTR 91 real bad :)

Seriously, I doubt the price will come down and that glut will be more available to all of us. Good 'ole USA will get involved in the next skirmish so it's keeping its own surplus.

Richard Erichsen
12-13-2011, 6:38 AM
It is standing by for Syria and Lybia.....

The term "surplus" means not used. Anything that feeds a NATO or other allied nations small arms in ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq are going to be in high demand for awhile. Don't expect there to be a lot of "surplus" until after hostilities cease and that could take quite awhile. When they do cease, most of the 7.62x51 mm is going to be for MGs and may well be linked.

Most of the milsurp I've seen in the last few years dates between the 1950s and the 1990s. I think in general "surplus" tends to be 20+ years old and older and is only liquidated to make room for new ammo.

Two wars going on 10+ year duration make use of a lot of what might have been "surplus" in a few years from now. I doubt we'll see a lot of unused ammo coming out of this campaign, it will end up transferred to allies in the region long before it comes back to us.

R

xxINKxx
12-13-2011, 6:39 AM
Don't forget about AB809 passing. I bet rifle prices may spike if alot of people flock to buy rifles befor they need to be treated like handguns and get registered starting Jan 1 2014. Seems like everythings getting worse for gun owners in CA

I bet current prices right now are going to be the lowest it will ever be.

Write Winger
12-13-2011, 7:27 AM
I haven't bought ammo in a couple months and just saw a huge drop in the price of M855, like $0.10 a round. Reason?

bloodhawke83
12-13-2011, 7:52 AM
not really over, were sending 10k soldiers back.

joelogic
12-13-2011, 7:57 AM
I haven't bought ammo in a couple months and just saw a huge drop in the price of M855, like $0.10 a round. Reason?

Because it was over priced in the first place. Two years ago people wanted a dollar a round.

starsnuffer
12-13-2011, 10:14 AM
I'm sure there are goat herders in other countries that need oppressing.

-W