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chickenfried
12-05-2011, 12:47 PM
I like carrying a minimum of gear backpacking or touring on a bike. I prefer just a sleeping bag and mat. But then I have to be selective about my trips, fair weather and bug swarm free spots. A bivvy sacks seems like it would be right up my alley to open up my options. Any recommendations? Also any idea why they are so expensive, a good bivvy is as expensive as a good tent. Less material, less poles shoudn't that equal cheaper?

thenodnarb
12-05-2011, 1:59 PM
I just got a new tent that only weighs 2 pounds which is close to a bivvy sack weight, and its is very compact. Its a big agnes 2 man tent, I'll have to check which model. A bivvy is like sleeping in a bag. You can't sit up inside it, and you might get claustrophobic. Why do that when you could have a 2 man tent for nearly the same weight?

Here it is:http://www.rei.com/product/796087/big-agnes-fly-creek-ul2-tent

A little spendy at $350 but you pay for weight savings.

chickenfried
12-05-2011, 2:04 PM
I'd want one with a front raised so the bivvy isn't just against your face. 2 pounds sounds great $350 not so much :p. If I can find a comparable tent weight/cost wise I'd defnitely be open to that ~$200 maybe a little more. Actually that line of tents looks interesting thanks for the suggestion

mindwip
12-05-2011, 2:23 PM
I use an eureka! one person tent. $98 3+ season tent one person two poles can sit up in center weight with stakes 3pound

Dark Mod
12-05-2011, 3:54 PM
I dont know why you wouldnt just take a tent, modern tents weigh almost nothing and can fit inside my cargo pocket. The poles are lightweight too, but space is an issue, ive actually gone out on 2 day trips and left the poles behind and just scavenged some sticks.

These arent 3 person tents or anything, and you cant stand up inside them but they keep the rain and bugs off you.

If your willing to drag some poles along just go with the Wenzel hiker tent for $26 and call it a day

mindwip
12-05-2011, 5:04 PM
I understand his light weight goal. I am trying to do the same my self. Recently I weighed all my camping stuff and was very surprised how some items add a lot of weight but little value!

Having said that I like my tent it protects me from bugs and bears!

thenodnarb
12-05-2011, 6:09 PM
I'd want one with a front raised so the bivvy isn't just against your face.

The ones that are like that that I've seen area also 2 pounds, but they are around $200. Not worth it IMO for something that probably wont breathe very well(moisture will build up in your bag, and that sucks).

$350 is quite an investment for such a small tent so I understand.

Another option is to carry a small tarp. I have one that is 5X7 and folds up pretty small. That and a little paracord, and you could have an improvised tent kinda like a pup tent. I think I would prefer that to a bivvy.

westcoastr
12-05-2011, 7:41 PM
every ounce counts...so if it is short trip with good weather likely:

http://www.rei.com/product/813513/sol-thermal-bivvy

warning...this bivy cant take a lot of use/abuse...but at 9 oz, it is great for trips when you can likely sleep outside and only need something in the event you get a little rain.

Otherwise i use an OR research bivy which I bought years ago that weighs in at 16 oz with poles. Used it all over the world. The new ones look to be heavier, so the Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2 Tent might be better now.

echo1
12-05-2011, 8:33 PM
I've used bivvys back in the day, and swore by it for minimalist needs. I would never use one again now. Sometimes I need to crash out in my chair kit sitting up. The comfort factor at this stage of the game is more important after 50 years of backpacking. I don't strike hard for multi-days or a week anymore, but I carry the same weight in lighter gear. If I lost 20lbs off my gut, I could carry more on my back. I've got a near new Eureka Solitare and a similar style Quest for cheap if your interested. PAX

bubbagump
12-05-2011, 9:46 PM
backpackinglight.com

Go to their gear section and you'll have pages upon pages on this topic.

Most people use a DWR bivy and add a tarp if the weather gets nasty.

http://www.titaniumgoat.com/Bivy.html
http://www.titaniumgoat.com/sitebuilder/images/TG_hood2-250x187.jpg

5.8 ounces will cost you 90 bucks.

http://www.prolitegear.com/golite_poncho_tarp.html
http://www.prolitegear.com/prolitegear/images/large/golite-ultralite-poncho-tarp-bamboo.jpg

7.5 ounces will cost you 60 bucks.

Thats a little over 13 ounces for 150 bucks. The tarp doubles as raingear. Your trekking pole doubles as a "tent pole".

Tanner68
12-05-2011, 9:53 PM
What bubbagump says^^^^^
I carry a big tarp, that weighs less than a pound and sleeps two comfortably, and can sleep three in a pinch. A poncho and a bivy makes a good ultralight setup. You can get a lighter bivy that doesn't enclose the your head, and use your poncho for an awning. Oware makes some good ones.

slagusmc
12-05-2011, 11:08 PM
Try a usgi "bivy sack". When I was on active duty that's pretty much all we ever used in the field. It's gore Tex, super lightweight, no poles, waterproof etc. Also look into the catoma tents/bugnets, if u really want to live in luxury lol