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VTX
12-05-2011, 9:36 AM
I cant decide between a DPMS 24" fluted SS barrel or a DPMS sass 18" fluted SS black teflon coated and threaded pre ban barrel. I have a tm lower, dpms upper, FDE a2 and FDE free float handguard.
Any opinons? I was thinking about a long range shooter, its the 24" going to be much more accutate than the 18" or minimal?

thanks

chino
12-05-2011, 11:03 AM
I am using a Krieger M110 barrel (20")
http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/M_110_Service_Rifle-c1246-wp6474.htm (http://www.kriegerbarrels.com
/M_110_Service_Rifle-c1246-wp6474.htm)

I am still working a load for it. So far it is easily a sub MOA rifle.

You have to send Krieger your bolt for optimum fit.

Caution, the barrel requires a .875 gas block.

NSR500
12-05-2011, 11:07 AM
Rainier

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VTX
12-05-2011, 11:46 AM
whats wrong with dpms? sass?

JaeFern
12-05-2011, 12:18 PM
whats wrong with dpms? sass?

Good question. I haven't had a problem yet. I went the DPMS SASS route.

-Jae from my Photon 4G

VTX
12-05-2011, 12:32 PM
I dont see how dpms can be a problem, maybe its just brand choice like 7up versus coke
Its a long piece of metal with a hole drilled and rifled down the center. Not the most technological thing on the planet...
Be a given that it has to be down right with the right equipment, im sure in 2011 DPMS isnt using a guy with a drill and using the same equipment the others are using

Sicarius
12-05-2011, 1:00 PM
What is wrong with DPMS brand barrels? My SASS seems to be going its job and the price is hard to beat.
Kevin

Lostsheep
12-05-2011, 1:07 PM
I dont see how dpms can be a problem, maybe its just brand choice like 7up versus coke
Its a long piece of metal with a hole drilled and rifled down the center. Not the most technological thing on the planet...
Be a given that it has to be down right with the right equipment, im sure in 2011 DPMS isnt using a guy with a drill and using the same equipment the others are using

Drilling a .300" hole 20" long is no easy task.

I personally suspect the difference is in QCA and what different companies consider to be acceptable tolerances.

toyturbo
12-05-2011, 1:12 PM
$195 for an SASS 18" fluted bull barrel cannot be beat! I imagine the 24" would be too heavy and not really ideal for anything other than bench work.

WeenerDog
12-05-2011, 1:29 PM
I'd go for the SASS... 24" is *heavy* and awkward... but if you get a SASS and don't like it, we can trade :43:

Hoop
12-05-2011, 2:13 PM
If I were buying right now I would get a rainier select or rainier ultra match. Do not go longer than 20".

VTX
12-05-2011, 3:31 PM
$195 for an SASS 18" fluted bull barrel cannot be beat! I imagine the 24" would be too heavy and not really ideal for anything other than bench work.

where are they 195?
thank

toyturbo
12-05-2011, 3:37 PM
JSE surplus has the best deals....

http://www.jsesurplus.com/dpms18inchsass308barrel.aspx

lwbyo1
12-05-2011, 3:43 PM
If you order the SASS barrel, don't forget the gas block. There are only a few gas blocks that work with the SASS barrel and this is the cheapest one:

http://www.jsesurplus.com/dpmsmicro936gasblock.aspx

VTX
12-05-2011, 3:51 PM
Everybody has their favorites.
I did not say DPMS barrels were a problem.
This is just my opinion.
Take it or leave it, panties in a bunch!
i wasn't upset,just stating facts
you must be a clairvoyant to read more into it than it was
un-wod your g string!

Falstaff
12-05-2011, 3:57 PM
You can buy 2 or 3 Sass' for the price of one Shilen or Krieger or Rainier...
That doesn't mean those others aren't worth the money I am just saying that there's a lotta bang for the buck in a dpms barrel. I actually have one and I have no complaints about it's accuracy or performance. JSE sells them for 195, DPMS has sold them direct on special promotions for as low as 169 (though they're asking' 299 on their website right now)

motorwerks
12-05-2011, 9:16 PM
blackhole weaponry :D

VTX
12-05-2011, 9:42 PM
I think ill split the difference and look for a 20"
whats the diff between HBAR and bull profiles?

Bladewurk
12-05-2011, 9:54 PM
I would only go longer than 18 if building a dedicated side charger Match rifle for competition.....stick with an 18 for all around use. I like Rock Creek barrels but the DPMS is a great value

24 will not be more accurate just slightly better velocity at extreme range and nice long Iron sight radius on a Match Rifle

motorwerks
12-05-2011, 9:55 PM
I think ill split the difference and look for a 20"
whats the diff between HBAR and bull profiles?
Bull carries a larger diameter all the way out past the the gas block to ether the muzzle device or crown. HBAR normally looks like a normal barrel past the gasblock and id larger diameter under the handguard. I prefer HBAR profile personally.

robert101
12-06-2011, 5:38 AM
I have a DPMS Tac20. I like the 20" barrel length for this setup. It is not a bull barrel but a "heavy" barrel. It make the rifle a little heavier but seems to be right for accuracy.

marktse
12-06-2011, 7:48 AM
i have 2 308 barrel. DPMS Ap4 and fulton armorys criterion kregger chrome. Both equally accurate. Kriegger claims that its equally accurate to their SS series because their chroming process. AP4 is a 250 dollar SS barrel criterion from fulton is 350. Take your pick. but if you can get equal accuracy out of a chrome and treat like a chrome, you will be happier.

XDshooter
12-06-2011, 12:41 PM
I have a DPMS 18" SASS Fluted barrel and it shoots great.

3 shot groups at 100yrds. Federal GMM 175gr.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3572/ar308001large.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/ar308001large.jpg/)


http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3751/ar308002large.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/ar308002large.jpg/)

hcbr
12-06-2011, 1:09 PM
my dpms barrel is gtg,

gdcpony
02-03-2013, 8:39 AM
I am aware I am resurrecting a dead thread, but the replies here got me to thinking about a build I am about to order a barrel for.

What interests me is the comments about shorter barrels. I was about to order mine as a 24" bull. I knew it would be heavy, but figured it would still not be too bad. What would I gain/lose by going with say a 20" length over the 24"?

Specs are basic. Heavy bull, fluted, threaded 5/8-24 for a JP Brake, and housed under a JP 15" tube. The odd one is the chambering in .257Roberts.

VTX
02-19-2013, 3:59 AM
I built mine with a 24" DPMS stainless fluted Bull Barrel, I had it threaded and a custom comp installed. I asked myself your question many times before opting for a long barrel.
Question 1. What am i using it for? Mine was for long range bench rest. I'm not peeking around doorways with a 308! I have ar-15's for that.
2. Ever see a military precision sniper rifle with an 16 pr 18" barrel? No, Ever see an off the shelf bench rest rifle with a 16" or 18" barrel? No, why? Better balistics with a longer barrel, better velosity and more accurate at long ranges and more complete powder burn which means less flash/noise. My recoil is down around close an ar-15
my 2c

someR1
02-19-2013, 8:39 AM
bigger is better :D especially if you don't care about the weight

FMJBT
02-19-2013, 9:08 AM
Ever see a military precision sniper rifle with an 16 pr 18" barrel?

The Mk 12 Mod 0 and Mod 1 5.56 rifles use an 18" barrel, and the 7.62X51 KAC M-110C uses a 16" barrel. FWIW, the shorter M-110C has proven to more accurate than it's 20" M-110 counterpart.

Paltik
02-19-2013, 2:42 PM
As a rule of thumb, I expect to see 1% lower velocity per 1 inch shorter barrel from 24". If you're looking for a long-range shooter, keep the barrel at 24". As you start to get concerned about weight and handiness, you can start lopping off inches.

I have a 16" barrel on my Mini-G and figure that leaves it with a 450-yard effective range (i.e. energy), but there's some serious elevation adjustments (over 4 ft.) at that range; it's still great (in terms of trajectory) for out to 200 yards, though.

freedom-lover
02-19-2013, 3:59 PM
What about the new NEMO 308 barrels?