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problemchild
12-03-2011, 7:37 AM
From what I have read the quality and lumens of these lights is really good. The build quality is very good. For the price you cannot beat it. It does ship straight from Hong Kong so there is a 2-3 week wait after ordering.

Breakdown:

XPE (smaller emitter better throw, tighter hotspot, pencil beam, lowest brightness)

XPG (midway between throw and flood, medium brightness)

XML (brightest emitter, biggest emitter so more floody than throwy)

These lights run on AA, Eneloop, Nicad, Lithion 14500

The best part is they are $19.00 dollars plus 3 for shipping.
http://tacticalhid.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/Balder/SE-1/SE-1A.jpg

http://tacticalhid.info/se-1

thenodnarb
12-03-2011, 8:03 AM
I've bought some inexpensive chinese lights with bright LEDs before. Heck I bought several and gave them as gifts. The only downside to the ones I bought were the threads. They were very thin(but so was the body).One I kept for myself stripped where the head meets the body. On one that I gave as a gift, the rubber cover for the tail cap switch eroded and fell off from use. It still works though. Mine all run on CR123A's which I like better than AA. I bought a rechargeable CR123A lithium kit that I've been using for several years now. I've only had one set of batteries go bad, and I bought several more sets. They cost the same as ordinary lithium batteries, but they are rechargeable. The only downside is the MAh is only half of a non rechargeable, but I don't care because I just switch them out when they get low and charge the other ones. I haven't bought flashlight batteries in 3 years!

Now I use a surefire G2 LED. Its not nearly as bright, but its plenty bright enough for most uses, and lasts longer than my 230 lumen CREE bulb in my cheapie chinese light(which I now use as a weapon light since its hella-bright).

problemchild
12-03-2011, 8:18 AM
I know what you mean. I fell into the cheap chinese light trap in the beginning. I gave away all those lights they were crap. Now I stick with the better brands. Fenix, Eagletac, Nitecore, Jetbeam etc are all high quality lights. The balder light I posted above from what I read is good build quality. You can tell by looking at it its not the same as the cheapo chinese crapo lights. (http://www.dealextreme.com/c/ultrafire-flashlights-904?page=1&pagesize=52&pagesort=relevance)

The lights mentioned above are as good as the SF light that cost 10x more.


review of light (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/5450)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/23/mg4095i.jpg


I've bought some inexpensive chinese lights with bright LEDs before. Heck I bought several and gave them as gifts. The only downside to the ones I bought were the threads. They were very thin(but so was the body).One I kept for myself stripped where the head meets the body. On one that I gave as a gift, the rubber cover for the tail cap switch eroded and fell off from use. It still works though. Mine all run on CR123A's which I like better than AA. I bought a rechargeable CR123A lithium kit that I've been using for several years now. I've only had one set of batteries go bad, and I bought several more sets. They cost the same as ordinary lithium batteries, but they are rechargeable. The only downside is the MAh is only half of a non rechargeable, but I don't care because I just switch them out when they get low and charge the other ones. I haven't bought flashlight batteries in 3 years!

Now I use a surefire G2 LED. Its not nearly as bright, but its plenty bright enough for most uses, and lasts longer than my 230 lumen CREE bulb in my cheapie chinese light(which I now use as a weapon light since its hella-bright).

Chaparral
12-03-2011, 10:02 AM
Looks like it has all the things I like: standable, clip etc. My next purchase tho is going to be a Fenix TK 30. I just flat out want a 600 lumen light cannon for when strange cars pull up to my gate at night.

Batteries are not an issue for me...got the one is none and two is one issue for RCR123s and 16500s all taken care of.

chris
12-03-2011, 1:18 PM
i have my streamlight that i use at work and that thing is very bright. and several surefires that i have collected over the years.

problemchild
12-03-2011, 1:29 PM
Looks like it has all the things I like: standable, clip etc. My next purchase tho is going to be a Fenix TK 30. I just flat out want a 600 lumen light cannon for when strange cars pull up to my gate at night.

Batteries are not an issue for me...got the one is none and two is one issue for RCR123s and 16500s all taken care of.

Tk30 huh? Its a big light, not edc you know? For that size range I would look at other way more lumen lights.

I would get something like the RRT3-XM-L (2,000 lumens) The tiny monster (2,000 lumens) or a host of other lights like the Scorpion V2 (800 lumens) or jetbeam m1x 1300 lumens.

Maybe even an overready drop in 1400 lumens
http://www.oveready.com/images/uploads/ModHeadBlack.jpg

http://youtu.be/24VSvRrN2hw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9XosPlnhAc&feature=related

http://youtu.be/ABHbaJjpV1I

QQQ
12-03-2011, 8:04 PM
Thanks for the link; I'll have to try this out.

I'm not really eager to drop almost 100 bucks on a surefire at the moment, and my Fenix has been... disappointing. Apparently they can't handle a drop from 3.5 feet onto a hard surface too well.

problemchild
12-03-2011, 9:15 PM
Thanks for the link; I'll have to try this out.

I'm not really eager to drop almost 100 bucks on a surefire at the moment, and my Fenix has been... disappointing. Apparently they can't handle a drop from 3.5 feet onto a hard surface too well.

Yeah you need to add a stainless bezel to all your lights so they can take a drop torture and survive. It wont look pretty but the glass and light will survive.

jyo
12-03-2011, 9:42 PM
Just received another four Mini Maglite LED lights for two AA batteries from Amazon in three days at less than $19 each plus free shipping. These are not "Tactical" flashlights, just good old , small general purpose lights that take the common AA batts. Seems like a good idea to me...

Chaparral
12-04-2011, 10:36 AM
Tk30 huh? Its a big light, not edc you know? For that size range I would look at other way more lumen lights.

I had a line on one for around 70 dollars sans batteries or charger, which I already have multiples of. I won't pay more than 70 bucks for one unless it comes with extras like the right batteries and maybe another charger or some sort of mounting bracket doohickey.

That JETfire with the single emitter is nice but at 300 to 400 bucks, it's gonna have to wait.

The one other option, if i can't score a TK 30 cheap, is that guy Jayrob over at CPF who sells kits for converting a 2D Maglite to a bonafide 1000 lumen single emitter led unit. I have a couple of 4D maglites that I've carried since the early '90s that could use a new lease on life and maybe his 2D conversion could be made to work with the 4D host.

Again, a light like this is for me, a single purpose tool to be used when the dogs start aggressively barking at either a human or a raccoon at night. It has to be an absolutely brutal, thermonuclear light cannon with mostly throw and less spill, one mode is ok, and a momentary on/off switch either at the tail or on the side must be doable.

If they have that bark that signals "possum, cat, rat, other stray dog at the gate" I just approach with a regular EDC.

As it is now, when there's aggressive barking, I go out in the dark with a TAM-14, handlheld and an EDC that throws out a greenish tinted 250-300 odd lumens.

In the old days, as in late 80s to early 90s, I had a Q-Beam with a 12 V jack and a man-purse with a motorcycle battery in it. That was a lot of fun lighting up the desert and checking out the occasional abandoned mine. That unit was killed by saltwater exposure unfortunately :(

cudakidd
12-04-2011, 11:39 AM
I have the Chinese made lights. Many of them. Semi reliable, nice bright lights to use around the house.

But for BOB and such, I wanted bullet proof reliablity and quality. So...Recently LA Police Gear was blowing out their Surefire models, the incandescent models. I bought Eight E1E models. Now I need a source for reliable, cheap LED conversions for them!

Any thoughts?

problemchild
12-05-2011, 9:46 AM
OMG it sounds like you are in need of an O light SR90, 91 or 92. Or look at the Thrunite Catapult v3 or even the Olight M3X Triton.

The 90 will sear the retinas off anything inside of 600 yards.

FF to 4:25 mins if you just want to see the lights in action.
http://youtu.be/naPw4292nn4

90
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha7fLDI_ozY&feature=relmfu

91
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VOytmo79FA&feature=relmfu

Thrunite Catapult v3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8YwnsBExIM&feature=relmfu

Jetbeam RRT3-xml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWs31qgEFZA&feature=related

JETBeam M2S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_9g0T4oo0U&feature=relmfu

Dirt cheap but mega powerful
JETBeam BC40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NahPQrNyBp8&feature=relmfu


I had a line on one for around 70 dollars sans batteries or charger, which I already have multiples of. I won't pay more than 70 bucks for one unless it comes with extras like the right batteries and maybe another charger or some sort of mounting bracket doohickey.

That JETfire with the single emitter is nice but at 300 to 400 bucks, it's gonna have to wait.

The one other option, if i can't score a TK 30 cheap, is that guy Jayrob over at CPF who sells kits for converting a 2D Maglite to a bonafide 1000 lumen single emitter led unit. I have a couple of 4D maglites that I've carried since the early '90s that could use a new lease on life and maybe his 2D conversion could be made to work with the 4D host.

Again, a light like this is for me, a single purpose tool to be used when the dogs start aggressively barking at either a human or a raccoon at night. It has to be an absolutely brutal, thermonuclear light cannon with mostly throw and less spill, one mode is ok, and a momentary on/off switch either at the tail or on the side must be doable.

If they have that bark that signals "possum, cat, rat, other stray dog at the gate" I just approach with a regular EDC.

As it is now, when there's aggressive barking, I go out in the dark with a TAM-14, handlheld and an EDC that throws out a greenish tinted 250-300 odd lumens.

In the old days, as in late 80s to early 90s, I had a Q-Beam with a 12 V jack and a man-purse with a motorcycle battery in it. That was a lot of fun lighting up the desert and checking out the occasional abandoned mine. That unit was killed by saltwater exposure unfortunately :(

FrankG
12-07-2011, 6:51 PM
how do these compare to the xeno light eo3 .. http://tacticalhid.info/e03

Chaparral
12-10-2011, 6:25 PM
Dirt cheap but mega powerful
JETBeam BC40


Looked up the specs, and gave it a shot. It has less features than the Fenix and in the end, for its intended purpose, that makes it to me, more high speed and low drag. It arrived this afternoon, been playing around with it tonight and it fills the bill without all that annoying mode hopping with the rear clicky. 65 bucks shipped beats the cheapest TK 30 price by a long shot.

The build quality doesn't seem bad either. It looks well made enough and has nice throw with enough spill that I can see what else the dogs might be barking at in the shadows.