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Javi
11-29-2011, 8:45 PM
Just doing some thinking for my AR-15 build. Went from wanting an adjustable to a fixed stock but the A2 seems longer then I would want so I'm looking at the 5/8" shorter A1 stocks. Just wondering if anyone has used stock's from "Calvary Manufacturing" or "Fulton Armory" as those are my choices?:

Fulton USGI stock and new:
http://www.fulton-armory.com/images/products/detail/M16buttstock.JPG

http://www.fulton-armory.com/images/products/detail/_DSC1267.JPG

Calvary's C1 stock:

http://www.cavalrymanufacturing.com/C1.jpg

Fulton is more expensive when buying the full assembly ($90 vs $70) but if it's better quality then the C1 then it'd be money well spent. I don't want to be able to rip off the stock. Any input?

G-forceJunkie
11-29-2011, 9:06 PM
All my fixed stock AR's have A1 stocks because I like the shorter length of pull. Mine are old milsurplus ones I bought ages ago for $2 each.

Javi
11-29-2011, 9:16 PM
All my fixed stock AR's have A1 stocks because I like the shorter length of pull. Mine are old milsurplus ones I bought ages ago for $2 each.

Nice! Fulton's USGI ones are $10 unless you want handpicked at $20(same price as a new one). I was maybe even thinking of just getting a Fulton new or used stock and try to get the spring, buffer & extension at a cheaper price but that could take some time waiting for the right price to come. Would you look at a gun show or something?

smittty
11-29-2011, 10:24 PM
The nicest A2 stock I've seen is the Leapers/UTG stock. I know your looking for the A1 but I only seen the A2 stocks.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-utg-model-15-standard-a2-butt-stock-assembly-black-rb-t469b.html

I really like these.

Javi
11-29-2011, 10:39 PM
Those look nice but A2's are too long for what I want.

Anyone tried out the two mentioned??

vintagearms
11-29-2011, 10:44 PM
I have the Cav Arms A1 and like it. I have it on my featureless. While the endcap/trap door is plastic, you can put on the metal one if you see fit. Since Im not busting down doors with it, and just using it in classes and the range, it is a suitable fir for it.

bohoki
11-29-2011, 11:43 PM
i like mine i have one with a2 one with a1 i guess i like the a1 cause its more rounded on the edges of the plate

the odd thing i noticed is the old furnature is really black but i made a retro one with a grey receiver on my a2 build the buttstock is greyish and the receiver is really black

kendog4570
11-30-2011, 7:00 AM
If you do go with a M16 or M16-A1 stock, make sure the right screw is used. The A2 screw with the A1 stock will cause feeding/cycling/short stroking issues.

stevie
11-30-2011, 7:05 AM
I have used the Cav arms A1 stocks, good quality. I have also used the old Military A1 stocks as sold by Fulton Armory. I just used some flat black spray paint on them.

I like the A1 length over the A2.

Javi
11-30-2011, 8:38 AM
If you do go with a M16 or M16-A1 stock, make sure the right screw is used. The A2 screw with the A1 stock will cause feeding/cycling/short stroking issues.
Good to know. I'm assuming both companies would send the right one out haha.
I have used the Cav arms A1 stocks, good quality. I have also used the old Military A1 stocks as sold by Fulton Armory. I just used some flat black spray paint on them.

I like the A1 length over the A2.

So both would be good to go? Might go C1 just because it's cheaper in price. With Fulton, I'd probably just buy a new one over the USGI

Munny$hot
11-30-2011, 9:33 AM
RockRiver makes/sell a complete short entry fixed A2 style stock kit for 57.50 shipped
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=299

Javi
11-30-2011, 10:17 AM
RockRiver makes/sell a complete short entry fixed A2 style stock kit for 57.50 shipped
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=299

Good price. Never seen that one but am familiar with the Bushmaster 'stubby' stock. I'm guessing they're the same length. Unsure about those, would probably prefer A1 length although I typically shoot my .22 AR one notch above completely collapsed.

gun toting monkeyboy
11-30-2011, 10:51 AM
I have both, and both work well. The Cav Arms one has the plastic buttplate, but It has held up fairly well. I have considered replacing it with a metal one, or a plastic GI one, but I have never gotten around to it. The USGI ones can be in somewhat rough shape, but you can't beat them for the price. I used one on my M16A1 retro build, and it is pretty nice. Be aware that many of these older USGI stocks are the older model that doesn't have a compartment in the back. They are just buttstocks, nothing more.

-Mb

Javi
11-30-2011, 10:56 AM
I have both, and both work well. The Cav Arms one has the plastic buttplate, but It has held up fairly well. I have considered replacing it with a metal one, or a plastic GI one, but I have never gotten around to it. The USGI ones can be in somewhat rough shape, but you can't beat them for the price. I used one on my M16A1 retro build, and it is pretty nice. Be aware that many of these older USGI stocks are the older model that doesn't have a compartment in the back. They are just buttstocks, nothing more.

-Mb

Thank you :) I've heard of people wanting to replace their plastic buttplate with a diff. A1 or A2(I hear the A2 fits better) but if it holds up, I'd keep it on. I don't mind if one is missing a compartment, I just care about a pretty good looking, RIGID A1 buttstock and hopefully at a good price. I'd probably just stick some hot cheetos in the compartment for all I know :D

jimmykan
11-30-2011, 10:57 AM
I bought a Fulton complete AR-15 with the A1 buttstock.

Fits well on the buffer tube, but the buttplate is plastic with no trap door, if I recall correctly.

I'll check later when I have time.

gemini1
11-30-2011, 3:53 PM
Good price. Never seen that one but am familiar with the Bushmaster 'stubby' stock. I'm guessing they're the same length. Unsure about those, would probably prefer A1 length although I typically shoot my .22 AR one notch above completely collapsed.

Thats also my preferred lenght on collapsible stock, its about 8.5" long. The A1 stock however is 10" so that a little longer.
I had played with the A1 stock similar to the first pic you posted. I did however shortened it by an inch to fit my comfort zone, used a carbine lenght tube to make it work.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=393749

Munny$hot
11-30-2011, 4:00 PM
Thats also my preferred lenght on collapsible stock, its about 8.5" long. The A1 stock however is 10" so that a little longer.
I had played with the A1 stock similar to the first pic you posted. I did however shortened it by an inch to fit my comfort zone, used a carbine lenght tube to make it work.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=393749

You cut off the stops/railed portion on a carbine length tube? Pics if you have them would be great.

gemini1
11-30-2011, 4:17 PM
Not sure what you meant by stops/railed portion. I cut/shortened the stock itself and used a carbine lenght buffer tube/spring/buffer. The pic is on the link below my post above.

Javi
11-30-2011, 4:25 PM
Thats also my preferred lenght on collapsible stock, its about 8.5" long. The A1 stock however is 10" so that a little longer.
I had played with the A1 stock similar to the first pic you posted. I did however shortened it by an inch to fit my comfort zone, used a carbine lenght tube to make it work.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=393749

Wonder if any local shops have a rifle with an A1 stock on it. I've been mounting my .22 AR full extended and a position or two below that as well (I haven't shot that extended in months) and that's good as well. I was suggested the 'nose to the charging handle' style so I adjusted to the nearly collapsed length I've been shooting for a good number of months. Didn't occur to me that I could just move my face up with it extended as well instead of straight down :)

Fate
11-30-2011, 5:01 PM
Based on your preferences, I'd go with a Sully ;)

http://i48.tinypic.com/nb590.jpg

gemini1
11-30-2011, 5:01 PM
Huh? moving your face forward on fully extended stock, to attain nose to charging handle? I don't think you can do that in a relax manner.

joelogic
11-30-2011, 9:05 PM
I use a vltor A1 and love it.