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mmrx2
11-27-2011, 7:59 PM
How come .308 ar stripped lowers cost almost 4x more than ar15 lowers? .308 are around $400 and you can get .223 lowers for around $120 or so. I know they're bigger in the mag well, so more metal used, but 4x more? Do they cost that much more to produce?

AC89
11-27-2011, 8:01 PM
Likely because its an uncommon platform with low volume sales.

mmrx2
11-27-2011, 8:08 PM
If they made the prices more in line with the ar15s, they'd be a lot more common. They're basically almost the same thing.

AC89
11-27-2011, 8:10 PM
true, another reason may be that there aren't as many manufactures of parts, and there not universal. Also lowering the prices would move more units but profits would be lower.

cbaer5
11-27-2011, 8:13 PM
agreed I would have one by now if they weren't so expensive.
But that new colt 308 looks nice 762/556 in one. I gotta look and see if we can get them here.
or im sure someone here already knows if we can or they are making a CA version.

223556
11-27-2011, 8:13 PM
Ah I wondered the same thing! Oh well, maybe some day an AR10 will be in the future.

1Luv4SF
11-27-2011, 8:18 PM
Tactical Machine's .308 stripped lowers cost $220. I just picked one up from Mt. Pleasant Arms on sale for $215.

Speedpower
11-27-2011, 8:30 PM
I believe the reason for it to cost more than the AR15 is because the .308 lowers are machined from Billet Aluminum, but as 1Luv4SF said Tactical Machining have them for a very good price, I got one myself and it's definitely a quality machined lower.

ElvenSoul
11-27-2011, 8:33 PM
The Prices are starting to come down on AR10. I remember a cheap one was 1700 now I've seen $1000.

Don Nguyen
11-27-2011, 8:34 PM
AR15s are more standardized.

crazychinaman
11-28-2011, 6:43 AM
Like everything.Supply and demand.

Spyder
11-28-2011, 7:30 AM
Look at Tactical Machining. Great lower, EXCELLENT customer service, low cost.

NotEnufGarage
11-28-2011, 7:46 AM
Prices are coming down.. I just built a complete .308 black rifle for $1000, including shipping and DROS fees.

TM lower w/ parts kit install $240 shipped
DPMS 18" upper $600 shipped
DPMS A2 buttstock $90 shipped
2x ASC 10rd Mags $48 shipped

DROS was flat $65 for this and a couple PSA lowers, so we'll call that $22.

Total - $1000 (just made it)

I just picked up a 8.5-25x44 Mueller scope for it used for $100, so I'm still at around $1100. Of course, I could've just used other scopes that I already had.

LOL - I had 200 rounds of 147gr ammo loaded for it before I even purchased the upper and stock. Shoots great!

mmrx2
11-28-2011, 7:54 AM
Sweet, can you post a pic of it. That's a good deal.

Prices are coming down.. I just built a complete .308 black rifle for $1000, including shipping and DROS fees.

TM lower w/ parts kit install $240 shipped
DPMS 18" upper $600 shipped
DPMS A2 buttstock $90 shipped
2x ASC 10rd Mags $48 shipped

DROS was flat $65 for this and a couple PSA lowers, so we'll call that $22.

Total - $1000 (just made it)

I just picked up a 8.5-25x44 Mueller scope for it used for $100, so I'm still at around $1100. Of course, I could've just used other scopes that I already had.

wash
11-28-2011, 8:03 AM
AR15=America's most popular rifle

AR10=not on the list

You've got a VHS vs. Beta war going on between Armalite and DPMS pattern guns and all of the uppers are quite heavy.

I think I paid $200 for a billet 80% DPMS pattern lower which isn't that bad.

I paid $100 for a billet 80% AR15 lower which I think is a screaming deal.

high_revs
11-28-2011, 8:53 AM
damn.. hella deal. mine is like 3-3.5x that price. LOL (parts bought 2009 or so).

Prices are coming down.. I just built a complete .308 black rifle for $1000, including shipping and DROS fees.




if everyone went black rifle crazy on the ar10/308 platform like many did on the ar15, you'll see prices come down. not quite down to $88/lower like i did on some lauers, but lower than what we pay today.

chozenfew805
11-28-2011, 9:10 AM
Like everything.Supply and demand.

:iagree: +100

captbilly
11-28-2011, 9:41 AM
I bought my LR-308 lower receivers for a bit over $200. I generally pay about $70 for my AR-15 lower receivers, so that works out to the. 308 being about 3 times the cost. As others have said, the difference is almost certainly due to economies of scale. I think a machine shop can get raw forgings for for the AR-15 for under $15. The. 308 lowers start as a block of aluminum, since nobody makes a forging, so ther is much more waste of material. Though all of this machining is done on computer controlled mills there is going to be more mill time for a solid block than there will be for a forging (more material to remove from a block then a forging).

If someone decides to make a very large number of lr-308s they may be able to justify the cost of setting up a forging setup, and that could drive down the cost of the lower receiver. Probably the ultimate difference in cost, if both rifles were made in similar numbers, would be a few percent more for the lr-308.

motorwerks
11-28-2011, 10:05 AM
Tactical Machine's .308 stripped lowers cost $220. I just picked one up from Mt. Pleasant Arms on sale for $215.

thats where I was going to go with this. TM builds a great lower and their customer service is second to none.