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chrisf
11-26-2011, 8:54 PM
Well last tuesday I ordered a bunch of furniture for my AR-15 via midwayusa. The two items I ordered via usps got here yesterday. The rest well, It won't be here until wendesday. WTH?! I always thought ups was faster then usps? Its more expensive for no reason. Oh well I had to vent. Thanks for listening!

Josh3239
11-26-2011, 9:44 PM
Yep, I've learned my lesson. Somehow USPS is far more efficient that UPS. When I order from Midway using the cheapest USPS it gets here in 2-3 days, if I use the cheapest UPS it takes a week. And USPS is cheaper!

223556
11-26-2011, 9:48 PM
Yeah, UPS does suck. I have shipped stuff from USPS for regular standard price and its taken like 3-4 days to go cross country. Thats pretty quick to me.
BUT UPS has take a week to deleiver a stock I ordered for my Ruger 10/22 like 2 months ago.
HATE UPS

zfields
11-26-2011, 9:51 PM
Much prefer USPS, even though some dick face in a sorting facility has a few of our slings that he snatched.

Was great, customer got the box looking like it was never opened.

ArmyMedicMoose
11-26-2011, 9:55 PM
Well last tuesday I ordered a bunch of furniture for my AR-15 via midwayusa. The two items I ordered via usps got here yesterday. The rest well, It won't be here until wendesday. WTH?! I always thought ups was faster then usps? Its more expensive for no reason. Oh well I had to vent. Thanks for listening!

It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.

jvpark
11-26-2011, 10:03 PM
My Postman is my crack dealer. Waiting for my next package.

CrossedRifles
11-26-2011, 10:14 PM
My Postman is my crack dealer. Waiting for my next package.

Except the package won't f**k up your brain... :rofl:

H_4nupAxvNw

FourLoko
11-26-2011, 10:18 PM
UPS ground is slow. You get what you pay for.

USPS Priority is fast, it gets put on a plane. That's why they're going out of business.

ArmyMedicMoose
11-26-2011, 10:21 PM
USPS owns no planes.

m03
11-26-2011, 10:27 PM
It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.

Meh, USPS is still generally faster and more reliable for less money, even if UPS is handling the packages.

Plus, the USPS delivery people don't do idiotic crap like launching a package containing multi-thousand-dollar equipment over my fence and into the lawn instead of waiting for someone to come to the gate and sign for it. It's happened more than once... :cuss:

FatalKitty
11-26-2011, 10:31 PM
I can't stand UPS. if I order something and their only option is shipping UPS I will call and ask them to ship USPS at additional cost if need be. if they don't and I really must have it... I will have it sent to my work, since they make regular on-time deliveries and pick ups there it seams to work OK.


I once had a package sent UPS 3 day and the shipper didn't put my apt number on the box... so UPS sent a notice out through REGULAR MAIL to let me know my packaged needed to be PICKED UP. I was so mad I normally will not complain to customer service but I had to call them... I nearly flipped out.

Press Check
11-26-2011, 10:38 PM
Not only does UPS suck, but I seem to be the last house on their route, so not only does it take a week, I get my package just before 8pm.

FourLoko
11-26-2011, 10:40 PM
lol so many sad stories

our UPS man is timely, 10:30am

johnthomas
11-26-2011, 10:45 PM
You get what you pay for. I calculated the retail rate from Salinas CA to Norwood NJ.
My package 20 lbs. The top price is next day early am air, 215.97. That is shipped Monday the 28th, delivered Tuesday the 29th.
The cheapest is shipped on Monday the 28th and delivered on Monday, December 5th, 41.92. There are a lot of choices in between the top fee and bottom fee. When you order your things, you can decide when you want it and how much you are willing to pay. Unless UPS is delayed or lost your package, you are in charge, not them.

LovingTheYear1911
11-26-2011, 10:46 PM
I dont like using UPS either. They take forever and their never consistent. USPS on the other hand is 2-3 days tops and always on time!

bandook
11-26-2011, 11:05 PM
It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.

While the transport thing may be true, the big difference between UPS and USPS is that USPS (and Fedex) will deliver the item as soon as they receive it. UPS on the other hand will park the item in a warehouse until the 'paid-for' period has passed and then deliver it. In the SF East Bay area, I've seen items parked at either San Pablo or Richmond for a couple of days to ensure they don't get delivered too early.

E.g. Prescott to Bay Area took 7 days. Item was parked in Phoenix for 3 days and 2 days in Los Angeles. Arrived on day 7 of the 5-7 days paid service.
Another example - item moved on truck from Nevada all the way to Kentucky before heading back to the Bay Area to arrive on the last day of the 'service purchased'.
(There are stranger situations - items moving eastwards for 5 days and then having being flown back into the bay area for delivery the following day)
Heck, I've even had a UPS driver claim we refused delivery and sent the item back (this was a 47 inch TV from Costco - I guess the guy didn't want to unload it). Granted, the place had been empty/undergoing retrofit for a long time but at least he should have rang the bell...

chrisf
11-26-2011, 11:06 PM
It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.
I ordered all the items at the same time. Just used different cards so I had to do them separately. I got the email from midway that they were shipped at the same time so maybe ups just sucks? I may be a little biased because I worked at fedex but hey maybe the other people here saying the exact same thing may be wrong? Your right buddy thanks for your input.

chrisf
11-26-2011, 11:09 PM
Forgot to add I worked at both UPS and FedEx so I might know how things go a little better then you. And ups workers probably stole your slings fields because they were broke and bitter :-( ups pays $8.50/hr fedex pays $15.17 TO START raise every 90 days until you top out at around $20.00 in a year. That was the best p/t job EVER!! Not to mention fedex uses forklift so its easier work.

chrisf
11-26-2011, 11:11 PM
Not only does UPS suck, but I seem to be the last house on their route, so not only does it take a week, I get my package just before 8pm.
Ups is residential last. Business first. Which sucks because I run a business from my house and I always get my things last. I have to use ups for my business because my manufacturer in china selects not me :(

tonyxcom
11-26-2011, 11:16 PM
I always chose USPS Priority over UPS Ground. Always faster, especially from out of CA. Hell, even my Magpul orders from Primary Arms that ship free via Parcel Post make it from Tx to NorCal in 2-3 days.

The ONLY advantage UPS has over USPS is better tracking.

And I totally agree about UPS parking orders. I have a Larue order and SWFA order that look like they are going to be parked till Tuesday/Weds even though one has been in South City and the other in San Pablo since Friday. Hopefully they change their mind.

I just looked closer, the order that is in South City was in San Pablo already, the hub where my packages go "out for delivery" from.

1forall
11-27-2011, 12:36 AM
I have to agree...UPS sucks! I ordered a Micro T1 and CTR online only to come home and see my welcome mat completely off the ground with a big *** box under it. I guess they were trying to keep it discrete so that no one would see it and take it. Also, it had previously rained so the mat and ground under it was wet.

jonjonkills101
11-27-2011, 12:45 AM
im in the same boat...ordered my adams arms upper from the midway sale last monday, and i won't get it till tuesday, Thanksgiving has something to do with it, but for some reason they stopped updating the tracking number so i have no idea where or if my package is making progress. i have another UPS shipment for my lower parts kit and its doing the exact same thing. BOOO!!!!

all my usps stuff came within the week too so even more boo!

akjunkie
11-27-2011, 12:48 AM
Been waiting all week for delivery of my new Unlocked Iphone 4S via Fedex.

Got a note yesterday, "Attempted delivery @ 11:30am.... nobody home, etc."

Only thing was, my Entire family was home. Half dozen adults could've signed for my package. Guess the Fedex guy was to lazy or stupid to Ring the DOOR BELL.

I prefer using USPS, always 3 Day Priority w/delivery confirmation.

chad68
11-27-2011, 12:54 AM
I also hate UPS with a passion.

Last year they left $1,600 in coilovers and shocks on top of my garabge can, at my back door, where they sat till a nieghbor (2 hours later) told my apt manager they had been left there!! One time tracking said "left at front door". It was left someplace but was not even in my apt complex.

I have had about 10 UP's deliveries made and not once have they knocked on the door. Only two or three times did they leave the package at the front door, sometimes they drop it over the back fence.

What's next UP's, just slow down to about 5MPH over the speed limit and lob it in the general direction of my street?

PS don't give a $&%# how hard they work or how many hours they put in, it's no excuse not do do their %%$#ing job RIGHT!

triggs75
11-27-2011, 1:07 AM
Hmm well I guess my USPS person just sucks. Lost one package from riflegear but they were awsome and resent at no additional charge via ups and got here fine. USPS also misplaced a couple of my packages for a couple of days. It could just be my lame postman.

Mssr. Eleganté
11-27-2011, 1:15 AM
Remember that the USPS is free to run up 5 billion dollar deficits every year that we tax payers have to make up for. UPS and FedEx and FedEx Ground actually have to pay for their employees and fuel and stuff. They have to pay taxes and make a profit too. The USPS is kind of a socialist makebelieve shipping company. It's unfair to compare their prices and time in transit to private carriers.

CK_32
11-27-2011, 1:37 AM
I've never had a problem with either. As long as I get my package I'm happy.

Sucks to hear that. But it sounds like midway probably had that item back ordered or something and had to ship your items out seperatly. Hopefully it all goes through well.

SJgunguy24
11-27-2011, 2:25 AM
Last year during the holidays we were waiting for a bunch of guns to show up. UPS guy is awesome, always hangs out and if we have a hot package that has to go out we'll call him up and he'll swing by. Now back to the story. So we've been waiting for close to a week and now we're missing some big time money in guns. Then one of our customers stops by the shop to tell us that the Fed Ex guy told his boss that we had a sign up that said we were closed for 2 weeks during the holidays. The customer has something like 15K in guns getting ready to go back to the guy he bought them from. In total we had close to 80K in merchandise sitting down at Fed Ex because the driver ia a lazy pile of s**t. When that a**hole showed up we must of had 20 boxes to unload, with our stuff and customers guns as well.
Then there was the postal worker who looks at me and says "hey man I got a package for you"
Me, "OK cool where is it?"

Postal guy, "In my truck."

Me, "Let's get it."

PG, "I'll bring it by tomorrow."

Me :facepalm:, "I'm here now and your truck is right there." (less than 100 yards away)

PG, "Well if your not here tomorrow then I'll bring it the next day."

Me, "We need that s**t for peoples builds, do you want me to carry you?"

PG, "Bummer, see you tomorrow"

I swear I wanted to kill that douche bag. UPS rules compared to the others we've had deliver to us.

jigenax
11-27-2011, 3:20 AM
Sadly for me, all of them sucks. Had at least one bad experiences with every delivery company. UPS, US Post, FedEx, DHL... with DHL being the worst.

baih777
11-27-2011, 4:32 AM
dont feel bad.
i sent a barrel to be threaded for a muzzle brake. Priority mail and insured. it only had to go about 15 miles. i thought it would be easier than taking off work. the USPS sent it back to me next day. no reason. human error. when i went back to the post office i had all the clerks and people waiting inline laughing. i was loud.

TheExpertish
11-27-2011, 4:51 AM
It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.

What info do you have to support that? A quick google search and I couldn't find anything on it.

I don't like the UPS and when I had my small business I contracted with FedEx. Only problem I ever had with them is a shipment I sent out was destroyed in a "trailer fire". Claim was processed no problem and all was well.

Donk310
11-27-2011, 5:14 AM
I've had too many issues with USPS. I'm lucky if I get my packages at all. I'de rather wait a few extra days with UPS and at least get the package. UPS in my book.

0331Marine
11-27-2011, 5:49 AM
Hard to beat USPS here. 3 days tops anywhere in the US with a flat rate box.

FiveSeven
11-27-2011, 6:00 AM
To another poster above.... USPS does not operate on taxes but on fees (you use = you pay). So stop stating nonsense on how we the taxpayer are supporting their better and more efficient way of transporting packages.

I personally would go out of my way to not use UPS, I can't believe they are still in business. Horrible company and no match to USPS faster/prompt delivery.

rt66paul
11-27-2011, 6:23 AM
I live on a one block street on the west side of town. The street is mostly on the east side, so much that people do not put E. in front of the name. There is a house with a corresponding address to mine there. Even when the W. is underlined, UPS would bring my packages to them and swear they were dropped. Their map did not even show mt home, it was built in 1960!

When using UPS, only because I was forced to, I added a note that they had to enter my street from a certain blvd(on my side of town.). Finally, I get my stuff, the driver said that someone made a mistake - duh!

Tier One Arms
11-27-2011, 6:31 AM
I use USPS to ship all my orders whenever possible, they beat UPS in just about every aspect other then tracking.

mark2203
11-27-2011, 6:45 AM
USPS all the way, if it's available. I ordered an upper from PK Firearms on a Wednesday and it arrived on a Friday USPS Priority, which was cheaper than UPS ground. I always chose USPS if it's an available shipping method. UPS appears to hold up it's ground packages for 5-7 days so it inspires you to use priority shipping at a premium cost if you want your package in a shorter amount of time.

Jason_2111
11-27-2011, 6:52 AM
"What can Brown do for you?"... Brown is the color of poo.

I've run into this several times too. I figured it was just the UPS driver in my area being a moron, but I guess not.
There's been several times where I end up with a note on my door saying it was the third time they attempted delivery without me there, and I had to drive down to the facility and pick up whatever. This is always BS because there was never a first or second attempt! That, and they are way slow.

The USPS isn't perfect, the "tracking" they use is a joke. Whereas FedEx tells you things like "It's on the truck, in your driveway" practically.. the post office tracking is like "It was shipped" or "delivered", and good luck finding out anything in between. :P

For my side business, I ship everything with those small flat rate boxes. They routinely get to the east coast in 2 days, and to england/germany in 7 or 8 days.

GM4spd
11-27-2011, 6:57 AM
Good luck with UPS insurance,also---I sold a nice garand--seperated the
the stock and action---they cracked the stock right at the wrist.They gave
me the run around about careful packaging,long story short they did not pay
for the broken stock. Pete

morrcarr67
11-27-2011, 7:00 AM
I have had nothing but problems with UPS. They even leave rifles I order sitting on my porch without a signature :facepalm:

451040
11-27-2011, 7:02 AM
I HATE ... your threads.

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 7:06 AM
It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.
Midway and many other ship from multiple warehouses.
You could have one item coming from Vegas and one coming from Philadelphia. If you picked "ground", add in the holiday, and you're looking at 7-8 days coast to coast.

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 7:14 AM
The USPS isn't perfect, the "tracking" they use is a joke. Whereas FedEx tells you things like "It's on the truck, in your driveway" practically.. the post office tracking is like "It was shipped" or "delivered", and good luck finding out anything in between. :P
When you get it.

I won't order from a business that deals exclusively with FedEx. Their local driver is an a** and either:
1 - Won't get off his lazy a** to deliver in my condo complex
2 - Is too incompetent to be able to find my address

This has been going on for YEARS. Every time I get a FedEx delivery, the tracking shows "Delivery exception, business closed or recipient not home"
BS... wife is on disability and is here 24/7.
The driver NEVER leaves a door tag.
One day, we both took turns sitting outside by the front door from noon until 7pm. Tracking info said that delivery was attempted at around 3.

EVERY time I get a FedEx ground shipment, I have to make calls to the center. Sometimes I'll get it on the 4th "attempt" and other times I have to go and pick it up.
When I call and say that I want to pick it up, even that's a problem... the next morning it will always go back on the truck for delivery.

This isn't a problem with Overnight or other shipments that go through the Ontario Airport hub, but every shipment that comes through Industry has a problem.

toyotaguy
11-27-2011, 7:38 AM
Lots of UPS hate here, maybe its just because I live in a rural area but our UPS driver is great, he always makes sure to bring our stuff all the way to our house even when that involves opening and closing our gate, and he brings treats for our dog haha. The usps guy on the other hand loves to leave everything on the ground near our mail box even though it is on a public street half a mile away, wish he would just leave a pink slip for instead of leaving our stuff for the world to see.

Mail Clerk
11-27-2011, 7:55 AM
Well last tuesday I ordered a bunch of furniture for my AR-15 via midwayusa. The two items I ordered via usps got here yesterday. The rest well, It won't be here until wendesday. WTH?! I always thought ups was faster then usps? Its more expensive for no reason. Oh well I had to vent. Thanks for listening!

chris,

All the carriers (UPS, Fed Ex,DHL etc.) all have an alliance set up with the post office to complete the deliivery of our parcels. This way only one stop and the post office deliiveres yor stuff with a scanner to prove it was delivered. This saves money for both parties and gives the USPS/post office money to save there butts. That's why when you buy on-line always make sure it's insured FULLY!!!! Remember everything is about saving money now a days:oji:

Mail Clerk

JAGACIDA
11-27-2011, 9:14 AM
What info do you have to support that? A quick google search and I couldn't find anything on it.

I don't like the UPS and when I had my small business I contracted with FedEx. Only problem I ever had with them is a shipment I sent out was destroyed in a "trailer fire". Claim was processed no problem and all was well.

I had 2 packages delivered last week, one from Midway and one from Duluth Trading. Both were dropped off and delivered by the local mail. I have no complaints, always on time and drive through a foot of snow up my driveway to make a drop.
Now when I lived in SoCal....

mreed
11-27-2011, 10:18 AM
Ups repeatedly drops off packages at my house at around 9:00PM. Completely ridiculous if you ask me...

Noah3683
11-27-2011, 10:22 AM
I've had 4 delivery problems with Fedex. None with ups. I have a bonehead for a postal worker so ups is usually my preference. For those who say usps is always cheaper and faster try shipping something fairly heavy and then see how those rates vs time start adding up. I shipped a cylinder head to new jersey. Parcel post was $18 more than ups ground and was still estimated to take about 7 days. Priority was just under $40 more. Ups 3 day select would've been a hair under $3 cheaper than priority

cfusionpm
11-27-2011, 10:23 AM
Not only does UPS suck, but I seem to be the last house on their route, so not only does it take a week, I get my package just before 8pm.

You seem to be in the same boat as me. After chatting with my local UPS guy (get a lot of deliveries), it turns out he does both business and residential all on the single truck. Often, I will catch him at my work (less than a mile from home) and he will give me my packages there at 10-11am. If I know the tracking info, I give him a heads up and he's always chill about giving me them early. It's a win-win because he doesn't have to make the stop later on.

So in that regard, I actually really like UPS. :P

twoforme2
11-27-2011, 10:27 AM
Even though I have had UPS destroy one package. I would take them only second to FedEx, whom I have NEVER had an issue with.
USPS I absolutely HATE, I have lost track of how many times they have either lost or destroyed my incoming or outgoing mail/packages. Good luck finding a lost package through USPS. The tracking number does no good at all. I try to avoid them at all costs.
I will accept the time delay (usually one week shipping time to CA from anything east of the Mississippi River) for the ability to actually receive it!

CrossedRifles
11-27-2011, 10:28 AM
The only thing I like about UPS is that their trucks are so damn loud.

Lets me know when my packages are going to be thrown on the ground.

9:00 PM ( Rug-a-dug-a-dug-dug-rug. )

( Noise of my package being thrown on the ground. )

( Engine starts back up and roars away. )

:rant:

Alex M
11-27-2011, 10:29 AM
In terms of time in transit, Express Mail is not the same as UPS ground. It is more like UPS's 2 day air or 3 day select, so price wise it's actually a really good deal. When shipping an item that you know needs to be there on a certain day this is not always ideal since they claim 2-3 days or whatever. As an unbiased former employee that still works in the transportation industry, I can say that delivery wise I've had the least amount of issues with UPS followed by FedEx with USPS being the worst of the three.

zfields
11-27-2011, 10:30 AM
When I lived in CA, UPS and Fed Ex regularly "attempted" delivery when I was home, often working in my garage with the door open. I lived up few hundred yard driveway, paved, but out in the boonies. I let the fed ex hub have it one time when I payed 50$ or so for next day delivery on a new phone that they "attempted" delivery on. Never had an issue after that. Granted I moved about 2 months later though, but I had quite a bit of stuff come threw before I moved.

Since I moved to TX, and intown, I have never had an issue. Both UPS and Fed Ex actually knock on our door and wait a minute before they just leave items, and are pretty nice people. We may have just gotten lucky though.



I have NEVER had BS from USPS on delivery, however like I said earlier, had a couple items stolen, and there is no limited insurance, which is pure crap IMO.

mreed
11-27-2011, 10:37 AM
I've had 4 delivery problems with Fedex. None with ups. I have a bonehead for a postal worker so ups is usually my preference. For those who say usps is always cheaper and faster try shipping something fairly heavy and then see how those rates vs time start adding up. I shipped a cylinder head to new jersey. Parcel post was $18 more than ups ground and was still estimated to take about 7 days. Priority was just under $40 more. Ups 3 day select would've been a hair under $3 cheaper than priority

fedex... oh god. they owe me about 180$... i shipped a exhaust out to canada, got returned to me, employee forgot to give me power of attorney form. "Just pay again and we will refund your card" pay again, gets sent back again, bad postal code, go back in, employees all say the postal code checks out, i ask for another refund. Long story short, after many visits and many many phone calls to fedex over the past 11 weeks i still dont have my money yet, thinking small claims court is next..

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 10:58 AM
In terms of time in transit, Express Mail is not the same as UPS ground. It is more like UPS's 2 day air or 3 day select, so price wise it's actually a really good deal. When shipping an item that you know needs to be there on a certain day this is not always ideal since they claim 2-3 days or whatever.
The really nice thing about USPS is no matter how you ship it, it will arrive as quickly as possible.

With FedEx and UPS, if you don't pay for 2/3 day, it doesn't matter if the dispatcher routes it onto a 747 or not... if the ground-shipping chart says 5 days, it's going to sit in the terminal until the 5th day.
I've seen that a number of times.

wisefire
11-27-2011, 11:00 AM
Fu*k ups, 90% of my package arrives after 8pm, sometime at 10pm

mreed
11-27-2011, 11:03 AM
why are all the off topic threads in the "Centerfire Rifles" forum section?

Alex M
11-27-2011, 11:18 AM
The really nice thing about USPS is no matter how you ship it, it will arrive as quickly as possible.

With FedEx and UPS, if you don't pay for 2/3 day, it doesn't matter if the dispatcher routes it onto a 747 or not... if the ground-shipping chart says 5 days, it's going to sit in the terminal until the 5th day.
I've seen that a number of times.

If you've ever been to a UPS facility you would know that there is no place to just hold packages until the day they are supposed to deliver and there is nothing beneficial in doing so. That's not how they operate, now the freight industry on the other hand...

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 11:38 AM
If you've ever been to a UPS facility you would know that there is no place to just hold packages until the day they are supposed to deliver and there is nothing beneficial in doing so. That's not how they operate, now the freight industry on the other hand...
Sorry, but I've watched it.

It doesn't happen often, as they normally ship ground shipments by ground, but I have had ground shipments show on tracking as coming into ONT, then being routed to Vernon (air shipments go directly from ONT to my home and ground shipments are normally tracked in 'limbo' while on the truck until arrival in Vernon), and then sit there, scanned a couple of times, for 2-3 days before being sent out for delivery.

Maybe it's not supposed to happen, and maybe it doesn't happen often, but it has happened several times to me.

Mssr. Eleganté
11-27-2011, 11:43 AM
To another poster above.... USPS does not operate on taxes but on fees (you use = you pay). So stop stating nonsense on how we the taxpayer are supporting their better and more efficient way of transporting packages.

I personally would go out of my way to not use UPS, I can't believe they are still in business. Horrible company and no match to USPS faster/prompt delivery.

The USPS is better and more efficient?

:rofl2:

Even the USPS doesn't agree with you on that.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97582V00

chrisf
11-27-2011, 11:44 AM
UPDATE: As of 9:30 a.m of today my packages are in san Pablo, ca (30 miles from my house) and it won't be here until after 6pm wendesday WTF? never again will I use them unless I have no choice ill gladly pay $20 extra.

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 11:49 AM
UPDATE: As of 9:30 a.m of today my packages are in san Pablo, ca (30 miles from my house) and it won't be here until after 6pm wendesday WTF? never again will I use them unless I have no choice ill gladly pay $20 extra.
I had a shaving brush shipped FedEx from a business about 8 miles from here.
They shipped it on a Monday. I couldn't pick it up because they are only open 9:30-14:00 M-F (but that's not guaranteed).
I happened to have that Friday off.
I went to visit the shop around noon and made a purchase.
My brush arrived 15 minutes after I got home.

I should have just bought everything that Friday, but I couldn't be sure they would be open.

Alex M
11-27-2011, 12:05 PM
Sorry, but I've watched it.

It doesn't happen often, as they normally ship ground shipments by ground, but I have had ground shipments show on tracking as coming into ONT, then being routed to Vernon (air shipments go directly from ONT to my home and ground shipments are normally tracked in 'limbo' while on the truck until arrival in Vernon), and then sit there, scanned a couple of times, for 2-3 days before being sent out for delivery.

Maybe it's not supposed to happen, and maybe it doesn't happen often, but it has happened several times to me.

If you're interested to know how it works and what may have happened pm me the city you live in.

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 12:09 PM
If you're interested to know how it works and what may have happened pm me the city you live in.
Right there in my profile... Chino.

Noah3683
11-27-2011, 12:24 PM
The really nice thing about USPS is no matter how you ship it, it will arrive as quickly as possible.

With FedEx and UPS, if you don't pay for 2/3 day, it doesn't matter if the dispatcher routes it onto a 747 or not... if the ground-shipping chart says 5 days, it's going to sit in the terminal until the 5th day.
I've seen that a number of times.

Actually I have had more than a dozen packages get updated early arrivals from UPS (usually from Midwayusa go figure). Fedex on the other hand, I have had packages arrive 2 days early and not be able to go get them at the terminal, or they have been delivered to the wrong house 3 times.... Delivered 2 days late the other, oh and I shipped an Alpine DVD unit through them that the pulled an Ace Ventura on and it was destroyed. So actually that's 5 problems with them out of maybe a dozen overall experiences. That's a pretty high failure rate for me. You are right though, USPS usually pushes stuff as fast as possible. I get stuff to the office in a timely manner. Problem is I usually have to go in and ask for it.... my deliverer usually doesn't deliver the package call tag until 2 days later, or after hours

bsg
11-27-2011, 12:30 PM
USPS works for me.

FiveSeven
11-27-2011, 1:27 PM
The USPS is better and more efficient?

:rofl2:

Even the USPS doesn't agree with you on that.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97582V00

:rolleyes:
I'll believe it when I see it.
They might operate fewer locations (they became like Starbucks), operating an office withing few miles of another is not fiscally sound but they have been doing it, so is delivering outdated paper junk mail.
It's not for profit organization like others and surprisingly enough they've beat their competitions in customer satisfaction overwhelmingly as this thread clearly demonstrates.

Anyway.
Here's an example of timeline: a package being shipped across U.S
UPS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/12345/ScreenHunter_02Nov271418.jpg

USPS (yes, cheaper)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/12345/ScreenHunter_03Nov271422.jpg

Alex M
11-27-2011, 2:09 PM
Right there in my profile... Chino.

Sorry, I'm in my cell phone. Offer still stands, pm me if interested, don't want to type it all out in my cell if you don't care.

chrisf
11-27-2011, 2:12 PM
I HATE ... your threads.
Well thank you. I appreciate your kindness. But its funny how you continue to look at them.

KWB977
11-27-2011, 2:13 PM
Better then Fedex, if your package gets handled (no jokes please lol) by a private contractor, it gets delayed, or even flat out stolen since they know its insured. It has happened to me, where they stole some wheels, found them in the drivers house. And I had another instance where the driver went home sick and took the packages home instead of transferring them to another driver thus delaying the package. Id take UPS and deal with the time factor, verus the other issues Ive had.

zfields
11-27-2011, 2:16 PM
Well thank you. I appreciate your kindness. But its funny how you continue to look at them.

so when we gonna see this rifle. Still waitin for the 1911 pics.

LTP90
11-27-2011, 2:34 PM
My UPS guy rocks, He knows that the office is in the back of the house and knocks very loudly so that I am sure to hear it(can't hear the doorbell from the back of the house), and waits a while. Stuff always arrives on time, and I make sure I mark if I want it left on the doorstep which in my neighborhood is not a problem, had thousands of dollars of product(for business) on the front door for a day or two, its not going anywhere around here.

Fedex on the other hand, has been late..broken...torn up boxes....etc etc. On multiple occasions, I have yet to have anything shipped to my house(with the exception of business letters) that hasn't shown up with the box screwed up or something broken in it.

Also the reason stuff is "parked" in warehouse is probably UPS is trying to be efficient, They aren't going to send a truck from San Pablo to the next distribution center because your ONE package, the only reason we have UPS/Fedex is because of BULK, they need to move more than one package to make money.

And USPS is a failing enterprise that isn't supporting itself, and a government created monopoly which isn't good, and it gets to borrow money from me and you(aka tax dollars) at a discounted rate that me and you can't get. In my view its just another federally subsidized problem.

Rumline
11-27-2011, 2:40 PM
Since we're all throwing in our UPS gripes, I hate the UPS facility in my area. Unlike some of you lucky folks who get their packages when they are actually home, my driver always shows up between 2 and 3 pm when I am solidly in the middle of my workday. Leaves a notice saying "we will attempt delivery again". So I get home, call the number, and say hey let me just pick it up from the warehouse. They have a same-day will-call service if you call before 7:00 PM. They say OK, I drive down to the warehouse, wait in line with all the other working stiffs who are trying to get their packages. Get to the front of the line, give the guy my notice slip, he disappears for a while, and comes back saying "gee we can't find your package. We think they left it on the truck, but don't worry, it will be delivered tomorrow!" Great. :rolleyes: Rinse/repeat the whole process every day until they finally don't attempt delivery any longer. THEN they finally unload my package from the truck and I can go pick it up.

So every single signature-required shipment from UPS takes me between two and three full three days longer to actually receive because their incompetent staff don't know how to run a warehouse. :mad: I have to use UPS when ordering ammo online so I get to go through this ordeal all the time. Calls to customer service are like trying to piss upwind.

Mssr. Eleganté
11-27-2011, 2:44 PM
...It's not for profit organization like others and surprisingly enough they've beat their competitions in customer satisfaction overwhelmingly as this thread clearly demonstrates.

The USPS does not beat their competition in customer satisfaction. They continually place third behind FedEx and UPS in nationwide consumer surveys...

http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=255&Itemid=290

Express Delivery and Mail Services: UPS Grabs Industry Lead

Customer satisfaction with express mail services used by consumers who pay to ship and receive packages inches up for a second straight year, gaining 1.2% to an ACSI score of 84. Double-digit growth in online sales during the first quarter has increased demand for consumer-paid shipping of Internet purchases.

FedEx led the industry for more than a decade, but this year UPS moves into the number-one position with a 4% gain to 85. FedEx dips slightly, falling 2% to 83. The U.S. Postal Service gains 3% for its express delivery services, but its score of 79 keeps the USPS well behind both UPS and FedEx. Customer satisfaction with the Postal Service’s regular mail delivery also improves over last year, up 4% to match its former high point of 74. But this gain comes at a time when the volume of mail is shrinking and the Postal Service faces financial difficulties, indicating that the most dissatisfied customers may already have left.

Keep in mind that the USPS loses in customer satisfaction surveys even though it is able to charge artificially low prices. The USPS runs multi-billion dollar deficits every year by relying on its $15 billion line of credit with the Treasury Dept. Who do you think is going to pay that debt when the USPS runs out of money next year? And now the USPS is asking for a $5.5 billion hand out from Congress to shore up their underfunded pension plan.

FedEx and UPS don't get any of these cheap loans or cash handouts from taxpayers, yet both companies manage to make multi-billion dollar net profits every year.

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 3:47 PM
Sorry, I'm in my cell phone. Offer still stands, pm me if interested, don't want to type it all out in my cell if you don't care.
Meh... Not a big deal, and it hasn't happened in a couple of years.
Just saying that it can and has happened.

I still prefer UPS or USPS over FedEx. Like I said, I won't do business with a company that only ships FedEx.

FiveSeven
11-27-2011, 3:47 PM
The USPS does not beat their competition in customer satisfaction. They continually place third behind FedEx and UPS in nationwide consumer surveys...

http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=255&Itemid=290
As this thread clearly shows it's simply not true.
Slower delivery, higher charges, etc? Sure...
Common sense is not so common now days.

Keep in mind that the USPS loses in customer satisfaction surveys even though it is able to charge artificially low prices. The USPS runs multi-billion dollar deficits every year by relying on its $15 billion line of credit with the Treasury Dept. Who do you think is going to pay that debt when the USPS runs out of money next year? And now the USPS is asking for a $5.5 billion hand out from Congress to shore up their underfunded pension plan.

FedEx and UPS don't get any of these cheap loans or cash handouts from taxpayers, yet both companies manage to make multi-billion dollar net profits every year.

USPS employees even with their retirement do not make more than career UPS employees.
If UPS delivered junk paper mail and were operating 6 day work week, charged cheaper rate and be as large? Would they be doing any better?
USPS definitely will have to be restructured and would have to be smaller in general but as this thread shows. UPS is far behind in customer satisfaction and yes efficiency. In my book efficiency is FASTER and better service and me being satisfied returning customer.

Cokebottle
11-27-2011, 3:52 PM
The USPS does not beat their competition in customer satisfaction. They continually place third behind FedEx and UPS in nationwide consumer surveys...
Nobody ever surveyed me.

My only beef with USPS is the carrier likes to stuff a 5"x4" box into a 5"x4" mailbox that has a 4.8"x3.8" opening at the door end.
After the 5th time I couldn't get my lock open because he had shoved the junk mail up against the door, I fabricated a cover for the lock and epoxied it to the inside of the door. Nothing can get under the pin now.

People who complain about USPS are the same as people who b**ch about WalMart.
It's "the thing to do" but there's no rational basis for it.

Does UPS deliver on Saturday without specifying and paying extra?
Nope.
Does UPS offer flat-rate shipping on small packages?
Nope.

maj0rglitch
11-27-2011, 3:52 PM
I have two complete uppers and lower kits waiting at their local hub to be delivered since Wednesday. Thursday is a holiday, they don't deliver UPS Ground on Friday and Saturday delivery needs to be arranged prior to shipping :censored:. I tried to pay them more for Friday or Saturday delivery no go. So my complete uppers have jail time too via UPS.

If you want to be cruel send via UPS ground and time it to arrive on their local hub the day before Thanksgiving. :43:

zfields
11-27-2011, 3:58 PM
I have two complete uppers and lower kits waiting at their local hub to be delivered since Wednesday. Thursday is a holiday, they don't deliver UPS Ground on Friday and Saturday delivery needs to be arranged prior to shipping :censored:. I tried to pay them more for Friday or Saturday delivery no go. So my complete uppers have jail time too via UPS.

If you want to be cruel send via UPS ground and time it to arrive on their local hub the day before Thanksgiving. :43:

Only thing worse is that Smart Post garbage.

X-NewYawker
11-27-2011, 4:01 PM
USPS is great -- but you know what's better? Buying parts from your local gunstore! You get your stuff right there and keep the store open!
:)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/gun-mess.jpg

zfields
11-27-2011, 4:05 PM
If the local gunstore didnt want 2x as much on parts, I sure would have.


My local gunstore now is Cabelas, so cant complain much.

FiveSeven
11-27-2011, 4:14 PM
USPS is great -- but you know what's better? Buying parts from your local gunstore! You get your stuff right there and keep the store open!
:)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/gun-mess.jpg

What's the point of spending as much as x2 for the same stuff?
If they want to make a great profit they can find people who don't care about the price.

.......no offense but that looks like something out of A&E's Hoarders.

Ahmad
11-27-2011, 4:25 PM
Use the extra days to reflect on the virtue of patience.

SureShot241
11-27-2011, 4:44 PM
Personally, If I really want something NOW then I will pay the extra money and buy the item from a local store. If they don't have the item then I would order online. If it shows up a day late then it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

shadow65
11-27-2011, 4:52 PM
I use USPS Priority Mail every chance I get. It gets there faster.
If UPS tells you 7 days, bet your A** it will be 7 days and not a moment sooner.
Then there are the busted up boxes. I've had two uppers that arrived with the front sight block sticking through a double box.
Dave N

Noah3683
11-27-2011, 5:19 PM
I have two complete uppers and lower kits waiting at their local hub to be delivered since Wednesday. Thursday is a holiday, they don't deliver UPS Ground on Friday and Saturday delivery needs to be arranged prior to shipping :censored:. I tried to pay them more for Friday or Saturday delivery no go. So my complete uppers have jail time too via UPS.

If you want to be cruel send via UPS ground and time it to arrive on their local hub the day before Thanksgiving. :43:
Very interesting since I received 2 packages via UPS ground this past Friday

maj0rglitch
11-27-2011, 5:47 PM
Very interesting since I received 2 packages via UPS ground this past Friday

:confused: that's messed up, I could have gone to the range today.

Knife Edge
11-27-2011, 6:10 PM
USPS Priority travels by air in certain circumstances, UPS Ground can be very slow. I've always had great luck with USPS...

Noah3683
11-27-2011, 7:37 PM
:confused: that's messed up, I could have gone to the range today.

Maybe a local office thing? I've never heard of them not delivering on a Friday. Hell they usually run even on many federal holidays that USPS is closed. That really sucks for you though then

CrossedRifles
11-27-2011, 9:20 PM
This is ridiculous. My order from Larue Tactical shipped 11/21 ( which shipped really fast to add ), but the tracking information said it will be delivered 11/28.

Just now it switched to 11/29. WTF!

Factoring in Thanksgiving and 2 weekends, it still shouldn't take 5 days!

Larue is based in Texas and using the zone delivery map, it should have taken only 3 days. :rant:

zfields
11-27-2011, 9:26 PM
This is ridiculous. My order from Larue Tactical shipped 11/21 ( which shipped really fast to add ), but the tracking information said it will be delivered 11/28.

Just now it switched to 11/29. WTF!

Factoring in Thanksgiving and 2 weekends, it still shouldn't take 5 days!

Larue is based in Texas and using the zone delivery map, it should have taken only 3 days. :rant:

Hell, we shipped stuff on the 23rd from TX and it got to CA yesterday (26th)

peter95
11-28-2011, 12:28 AM
funny story... My friend has been with UPS for about 7 years now....

Wow, the stories he tells me about some truck loaders are just wow....
I cant go into details, but I can say this. If you have something fragile to ship and they see that.... Lets just say, the way they handle the package is a bit rough compared to non fragile packages...

Ill leave it at that.... Not saying all UPS employees do this, but he did say a good chunk do.

zfields
11-28-2011, 12:42 AM
funny story... My friend has been with UPS for about 7 years now....

Wow, the stories he tells me about some truck loaders are just wow....
I cant go into details, but I can say this. If you have something fragile to ship and they see that.... Lets just say, the way they handle the package is a bit rough compared to non fragile packages...

Ill leave it at that.... Not saying all UPS employees do this, but he did say a good chunk do.

Sad, wish the supervision would give a crap. Not sure about the loaders, but UPS seems to have good pay and good bennies, would think that would give them a reason to give a s*** about there job.

ultimatetaba
11-28-2011, 12:46 AM
LTlLOF2moxY

CrossedRifles
11-28-2011, 3:37 AM
LTlLOF2moxY

:rofl2:

anthonyca
11-28-2011, 4:33 AM
If you can email or call the merchant and tell them it's ok to leave the package on the porch you won't have to go pick it up. I have a few items a week shipped to my house for work and they never leave a tag. Sometimes if they get there early they leave it behind my truck or the side of the house with a note. The note doesn't say exactly where it is but just that it's delivered.

It helps that I know my regular drivers by name and get so many packages. UPS has been going down hill since they went public though.

tonyxcom
11-28-2011, 6:50 AM
Well its official. I have 4 packages en route via UPS. The 2 day shipping amazon one is out for delivery from San Pablo. The other 3 are sitting in San Pablo, been there since Friday and Saturday. They were shipped on the 21st and 22nd and all coming from Texas (SWFA, Larue, DSG).

What a JOKE.

Cokebottle
11-28-2011, 4:21 PM
funny story... My friend has been with UPS for about 7 years now....

Wow, the stories he tells me about some truck loaders are just wow....
I cant go into details, but I can say this. If you have something fragile to ship and they see that.... Lets just say, the way they handle the package is a bit rough compared to non fragile packages...

Ill leave it at that.... Not saying all UPS employees do this, but he did say a good chunk do.
Yup.

A friend worked at Space Age back in the early 80s.
He said that "Fragile" simply meant "At least TRY to catch it"

Montu
11-28-2011, 4:31 PM
even though UPS is slower I still rather have them deliver my items then usps
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5277/203132365.jpg


fedex>ups>usps

JJ1911
11-28-2011, 6:37 PM
Just had to share: was expecting a package from larue tactical via UPS. I live on Stockton street they attempted delivery on Scott street :(

peter95
11-28-2011, 6:46 PM
Yup.

A friend worked at Space Age back in the early 80s.
He said that "Fragile" simply meant "At least TRY to catch it"

Exactly....!

CrossedRifles
11-28-2011, 6:50 PM
Status switched back to Monday and received it 3:30.

Not too disappointing. :shrug:

HPGunner
11-28-2011, 6:58 PM
USPS has always been faster than UPS for me. For large packages it's cheaper with UPS. I would rather pay more and buy locally sometimes instead of saving a little and dealing with lost packages and delays.

Also for some reason I've had a few packages stolen when shipped via ups (especially ammo) and I never had a package stolen (knock on wood) when FedEx or USPS leaves a package at the door.

negolien
11-29-2011, 5:52 AM
Never did enjoy them leaving my packages containing scopes and crap on my Front Doorstep or lobbing them over the fence.I do have an apatrment manager they should try using them.:(

Panchira!
11-29-2011, 10:56 AM
Good lord don't get me started with ups! Man I have had so many bad experiencies with them. First was a car hood which some how got ran over by a forklift! They denied the claim and paid me 5 bucks for it! Grr! I ordered some tires and they left it on the sidewalk! 600 bucks of tires left on the sidewalk! They got an earful from me!

Now the driver shows up around 9pm and doesn't even ring the door bell! I cought him once bringing me my ammo order 640 rnds spam can x2 and he was about to toss them onto my porch from about 5-6 feet away! I told him you might not want to do that! The guy got pissed and pushed them to me then ran off! I said some things I can not remember. It's now either FedEx or USPS. Although my barrel from USPS was well holy crap:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/SW203SGTE/31c2767c.jpg

chicoredneck
11-29-2011, 12:49 PM
Here is an interesting tid-bit: all of USPS parcel mail is now transported and sorted by other carriers, mostly fedex and ups. When the package arrives at the local USPS station it returns into their posetion and sortation. All, or almost all of the USPS priority parcel shipments are transported on fedex express planes. I believe the USPS still handles their own letter mail.

My day job is as a manager working for a major transportation and shipping company. All the major delivery companies are going to have accidents sometimes, but the USPS has the crowning achievement of having the worst (by far) customer service out of any shipping operation. There CS is notoriously terrible. It's a joke really. And their shipping times are determined by their carriers, not USPS. The major transporter for their packages changes fairly often between ups and fedex, with fedex currently taking the majority of the share.

loosewreck
11-29-2011, 1:09 PM
I've caught UPS chucking my packages over my fence too. WTF? Since when was that acceptable?

USPS, makes an effort to walk it up to the porch if it doesn't fit in the mail box.

FiveSeven
11-29-2011, 1:35 PM
Here is an interesting tid-bit: all of USPS parcel mail is now transported and sorted by other carriers, mostly fedex and ups. When the package arrives at the local USPS station it returns into their posetion and sortation. All, or almost all of the USPS priority parcel shipments are transported on fedex express planes. I believe the USPS still handles their own letter mail.
So, let me understand something..... UPS and FEDEX ships their packages on those same planes but deliberately makes sure they are placed behind USPS in priority sorting/shipping?
How does that make any sense as a business motto? "We make sure our competitor gets there before we do and we don't rely on customer satisfaction as much as our rival"

My day job is as a manager working for a major transportation and shipping company. All the major delivery companies are going to have accidents sometimes, but the USPS has the crowning achievement of having the worst (by far) customer service out of any shipping operation. There CS is notoriously terrible. It's a joke really. And their shipping times are determined by their carriers, not USPS. The major transporter for their packages changes fairly often between ups and fedex, with fedex currently taking the majority of the share.

Not true, I sell/buy stuff from Ebay quite a bit.
Several times I had fraudulent seller and issue of a claim of non received returned computer parts. USPS went out of it's way to resolve the problem and even called me back after they finished their investigation.
So, I would say their CS is pretty good. That was only two times but I never had to deal with CS dep before or since and it's been thousand of packages all undamaged with prompt delivery.
The best CS department is when C never needs its S.

Iggy
11-29-2011, 1:56 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean. USPS or FedEx for me.

Montu
11-29-2011, 2:02 PM
I've had horrible CS from usps as well dealt with them 3 times....3/3 were horrible

IntoForever
11-29-2011, 2:15 PM
The UPS drivers will forge my sig and leave rifle uppers, ammo and extremely expensive camera gear on my porch, I was home and yelled at him once. Once delivered a rifle upper to a neighbor who was out of town and forged my sig. A friend had an upper delivered with the barrel poking out the box, forged sig and left the box on his doorstep in a crappy apartment building with kids running around. Next time I'm expecting a sig required package, I'm setting up a camera and busting his ***!

chicoredneck
11-29-2011, 2:55 PM
Sure, don't listen to the guy who actually works in the business :rolleyes:
The individual driver in your area is going to reflect and influence your own personal delivery experience with any carrier. Joe schmoe may love ups, but john doe may hate ups because his driver is lazy. It works that way with any shipping company. As a whole, USPS is rated dead last when it comes to CS. That does not mean it applies always or to everyone. My personal experiences with USPS have been negative. Most of my experiences with fedex or ups have been positive.

So, let me understand something..... UPS and FEDEX ships their packages on those same planes but deliberately makes sure they are placed behind USPS in priority sorting/shipping?
How does that make any sense as a business motto? "We make sure our competitor gets there before we do and we don't rely on customer satisfaction as much as our rival"



Not true, I sell/buy stuff from Ebay quite a bit.
Several times I had fraudulent seller and issue of a claim of non received returned computer parts. USPS went out of it's way to resolve the problem and even called me back after they finished their investigation.
So, I would say their CS is pretty good. That was only two times but I never had to deal with CS dep before or since and it's been thousand of packages all undamaged with prompt delivery.
The best CS department is when C never needs its S.

chicoredneck
11-29-2011, 3:02 PM
Usually what delays shipments is the company does not have the product shipped or picked up right away. Ups and/or fedex are not placing USPS package ahead of their own. Fedex even has their own seperate operating company strictly for handling and transporting standard USPS packages called Smartpost.

So, let me understand something..... UPS and FEDEX ships their packages on those same planes but deliberately makes sure they are placed behind USPS in priority sorting/shipping?
How does that make any sense as a business motto? "We make sure our competitor gets there before we do and we don't rely on customer satisfaction as much as our rival"



Not true, I sell/buy stuff from Ebay quite a bit.
Several times I had fraudulent seller and issue of a claim of non received returned computer parts. USPS went out of it's way to resolve the problem and even called me back after they finished their investigation.
So, I would say their CS is pretty good. That was only two times but I never had to deal with CS dep before or since and it's been thousand of packages all undamaged with prompt delivery.
The best CS department is when C never needs its S.

chrisf
11-29-2011, 4:54 PM
What's the point of spending as much as x2 for the same stuff?
If they want to make a great profit they can find people who don't care about the price.

.......no offense but that looks like something out of A&E's Hoarders.
Tell the gun shop owners to stop being a*swholes and ripoffs and a lot more people would go there. 3 of my local gun shops tried to ask $425 for a s&w sigma are you kidding me? I could buy it online for 299.

chrisf
11-29-2011, 4:55 PM
UPDATE: Well I had two packages left, I got one yesterday and the other one is still in san pablo. ARE YOU KIDDING ME it was on the same damn truck.

chad68
11-29-2011, 5:47 PM
Well yesterday I had a set of tires $1100 delievered by Fed Ex. The dude knocked on my door!!! First time since I have lived there any carrier has knocked. He said, "I wanted to make sure somebody was home before I left them".

My only guess is he must be a new guy LOL

Cali-Shooter
11-29-2011, 6:11 PM
UPS causes trouble again, navigating their site is a total nightmare. I can't believe the limitations there are in simply trying to re-direct a package in transit to another delivery location in the same damn city. Piece of crap "My UPS" service too.

Fedex all the way, UPS blows.

icenix
11-29-2011, 6:26 PM
Sorry if someone already said this, but with UPS or FedEx if your not home you sometimes have to schedule a time for them to bring it back by, but what if you are always working and won't be home when they deliver?? Stupid mail, lol.

Stormtrooperthunder
11-29-2011, 6:38 PM
Having a goodie shipped to my house. Its been sitting in the UPS San Pablo hub since yesterday morning and has not updated since. It is scheduled for delivery by the end of the week. San Pablo is an hour away from me. =|

tonyxcom
11-29-2011, 9:41 PM
I've gotten 3 of the 4 UPS shipments I have been waiting for. They all shipped last Mon/Tues before Thanksgiving.

One on Monday, two today.

Here is the kicker, and why UPS sucks. They have all been in San Pablo since Fri/Sat (well except for that one that took a trip to South City and back).

The last one is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

I don't care how USPS Priority works or who's plane or truck they might ride on (why should anyone care for that matter). Packages from Texas take 2 days, coast to coast is 3.

Cokebottle
11-30-2011, 4:43 PM
Packages from Texas take 2 days, coast to coast is 3.
?????
The day it is shipped does not count. Ship something 2nd day Wednesday afternoon and it will arrive on Friday. Ship it tomorrow and it arrives Monday.
Weekends and holidays don't count (even if the package moves).

UPS ground shipments take more than 2 days from Texas, and take more than 3 from the east coast.
I just checked, they state 4 days in transit to New York and 3 days in transit to Houston.

Seriously... it takes 2 days to drive from Texas to Los Angeles (UPS drivers can't drive 24/7). The package still has to be sorted, loaded, unloaded, sorted, and delivered.

Knife Edge
11-30-2011, 6:09 PM
If it makes you feel better my latest shipment has been rescheduled to arrive a day early!!

Noah3683
11-30-2011, 7:05 PM
If it makes you feel better my latest shipment has been rescheduled to arrive a day early!!

mine too :D

tonyxcom
11-30-2011, 8:36 PM
?????
The day it is shipped does not count. Ship something 2nd day Wednesday afternoon and it will arrive on Friday. Ship it tomorrow and it arrives Monday.
Weekends and holidays don't count (even if the package moves).

UPS ground shipments take more than 2 days from Texas, and take more than 3 from the east coast.
I just checked, they state 4 days in transit to New York and 3 days in transit to Houston.

Seriously... it takes 2 days to drive from Texas to Los Angeles (UPS drivers can't drive 24/7). The package still has to be sorted, loaded, unloaded, sorted, and delivered.

What???? I was talking about USPS.

Have a gander at one of my recent orders from Primary Arms.
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction.action?tLabels=9101010521297296 048337

Oh and here is another one that was sent from Primary Arms via FIRST CLASS MAIL.
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction.action?tLabels=9101010521297297 585589

And just so you think the USPS gives Primary Arms special treatment, here is one from DSG Arms
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction.action?tLabels=9405510200883203 701150

CrossedRifles
11-30-2011, 8:46 PM
8 days for UPS to deliver a little BUIS TROY to reach California.

Took USPS to deliver the same distance in 3 days.

:(

Knife Edge
11-30-2011, 9:35 PM
8 days for UPS to deliver a little BUIS TROY to reach California.

Took USPS to deliver the same distance in 3 days.

:(

USPS Priority Mail rides in the cargo bins of US airlines under various contracts, UPS ground cruises along at 70mph on the brown elephant.

Stormtrooperthunder
11-30-2011, 10:57 PM
My package moved from San Pablo to Oakland. It is now 10 minutes closer to me. ALLMYHATE

edit:
I do not think I have had anything "out" this early. Should I be worried?
http://i.imgur.com/PmccX.png

Knife Edge
12-01-2011, 5:12 AM
My other package is arriving three days early!!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/4404ca6b-8b4a-493e.jpg

chrisf
12-02-2011, 8:14 PM
UPDATE Just ordered a sigma from kentucky. It took only 2 days to get to the bay area. Man I love USPS.

Cokebottle
12-02-2011, 8:27 PM
This time of year, USPS seems to ship everything by air unless it is ORM-D, regardless of whether it was shipped parcel post, priority, or express.

They're into their busiest time of year and don't want to end up backed up on December 19th.

tonyxcom
12-02-2011, 8:31 PM
My packages from Primary Arms always take just 2 days.

FatalKitty
12-02-2011, 8:58 PM
My packages from Primary Arms always take just 2 days.

the first time I ordered something from PA I was impressed with the speed at which it was packed and sent out to me.
however the last time I ordered something It was ordered on Saturday night... didn't ship out until wednesday and arrived at my house on Friday. I was OK with this... but thought it was odd they waited 3 days to ship :(

doesn't change anything, I will continue to shop at PA and ALWAYS use USPS

zfields
12-02-2011, 9:12 PM
the first time I ordered something from PA I was impressed with the speed at which it was packed and sent out to me.
however the last time I ordered something It was ordered on Saturday night... didn't ship out until wednesday and arrived at my house on Friday. I was OK with this... but thought it was odd they waited 3 days to ship :(

doesn't change anything, I will continue to shop at PA and ALWAYS use USPS

Thats surprising, they are usually super fast. Hell I had a replacement dot shipped before I even got the old one back in the mail.

Noah3683
12-02-2011, 9:50 PM
Well my final package for the time being arrived today. Was scheduled for Monday. You know looking through this thread, the common problem seems to be the San Pablo terminal. Seems to me Vernon pushes to get stuff out of there more hastily

rero360
12-03-2011, 8:09 AM
I ordered some small stuff from BCM, taking advantage of their black friday sale, was delivered yesterday, UPS, showed up in a USPS box, with the side of the box ripped open enough for everything to come out. My heart sank at the thought of having to call BCM up and tell them that part if not all of my order was lost.

Turns out everything was still in the box, the charging handle, bolt carrier group and surefire muzzle brake, plus all the swag was still in there too, stickers, booklets, and a complete gun mag.

The gun gods were looking out for me there. But seriously, I didn't even open the box, just reached in and pulled everything out through the rip.

Agent Tikki
12-03-2011, 8:38 AM
I ordered some small stuff from BCM, taking advantage of their black friday sale, was delivered yesterday, UPS, showed up in a USPS box, with the side of the box ripped open enough for everything to come out. My heart sank at the thought of having to call BCM up and tell them that part if not all of my order was lost.

Turns out everything was still in the box, the charging handle, bolt carrier group and surefire muzzle brake, plus all the swag was still in there too, stickers, booklets, and a complete gun mag.

The gun gods were looking out for me there. But seriously, I didn't even open the box, just reached in and pulled everything out through the rip.



you sir are a lucky man.......

Bonedeval
12-03-2011, 8:46 AM
I also hate ups.. They dont deliver on Saturdays either

loosewreck
12-03-2011, 9:26 AM
This past Thursday my neighborhood and most surrounding areas here in NE Los Angeles had no power and were literally blown to a dysfunctional mess, but my from package from Primary Arms was still delivered on time and placed in front of my front door, on my porch by USPS. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting on a package sent out the same day via UPS from another retailer :toetap05:.

mjmagee67
12-03-2011, 11:19 AM
Don't get to use to USPS being cheaper and faster---that will all be changing in the near future--can't keep running 5 billion in the hole, somethings got to give (other than the tax payers) FWIW I too use USPS when ever possible.

chrisf
12-03-2011, 3:22 PM
well my gun was suppose to be delivered through usps today. No word it didn't even get updated yet. It doesn't really matter because my ffl isn't open today. So hopefully monday will be the day, I get to hold my much hated for no reason sigma 40.

chad68
12-20-2011, 7:42 PM
Ha and you guys thought I was kidding about slowing down and just chucking the package from the street. getting damn close.

At the tail end of this vid there's a UPS guy who chucks the package from about the sidewalk, to I'm gussing the porch/front door.


http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/us/2011/12/20/pkg-moos-deliveries-gone-wild.cnn

themailman
12-20-2011, 8:03 PM
USPS beats UPS and Fedex on many levels. Every time Ive dealt with Fedex it has been painful.

icenix
12-21-2011, 8:27 AM
It took my upper a week, 7 days exactly, to get from Bravo Company to California and it took about 6 days for my bolt carrier group to get from G&R Tactical, near Bravo Company, to California. What sucks is on the day they said both items were out for delivery, it said that at like 5:00 am but I didn't receive either until like 7:00 at night. Still got them though.

And I am pretty sure that the lady dropped the box with my upper in it on the front porch because I heard a loud noise. It was wrapped loosely in bubble wrap by Bravo Company, but there was plenty of room in the box to still move around, but I don't think it did any damage.

Briancnelson
12-21-2011, 8:33 AM
UPS always gives me problems. Frankly, so does USPS. FedEx is the only reliable one of the three.

I don't even mind that UPS ground is slow and whatnot, that's factored into the price. I mind that their employees have the brains god gave a pissant. They have screwed up so many deliveries to our law firm that I just avoid them whenever possible.

icenix
12-21-2011, 9:33 AM
UPS always gives me problems. Frankly, so does USPS. FedEx is the only reliable one of the three.

I don't even mind that UPS ground is slow and whatnot, that's factored into the price. I mind that their employees have the brains god gave a pissant. They have screwed up so many deliveries to our law firm that I just avoid them whenever possible.

haha, have you not seen the FedEx video going around now?

I would be pissed if that were my computer/monitor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tga9XmjDEJQ

Wherryj
12-21-2011, 11:41 AM
I've had nothing but good experiences with UPS. FedEx in our area is a bit "hit or miss" and the USPS is consistently mediocre. I guess that's because our local USPS branch is located a whopping 200 feet away. You can't expect perfection with that sort of ludicrous supply line.

drifter2be
12-21-2011, 11:55 AM
It took my upper a week, 7 days exactly, to get from Bravo Company to California and it took about 6 days for my bolt carrier group to get from G&R Tactical, near Bravo Company, to California. What sucks is on the day they said both items were out for delivery, it said that at like 5:00 am but I didn't receive either until like 7:00 at night. Still got them though.

And I am pretty sure that the lady dropped the box with my upper in it on the front porch because I heard a loud noise. It was wrapped loosely in bubble wrap by Bravo Company, but there was plenty of room in the box to still move around, but I don't think it did any damage.

Just because it says out for delivery does not mean that it is minutes away from you. They scan it at the facility when it gets loaded on the truck that will be dropping it off. I will agree that almost all delivery companies suck, and they all are extremely rough with the packages they deliver, I came home once and a UPS driver was tossing a package over the railing on my balcony next to the stair case. Luckily nothing that could be easily damaged was in there, just the stock for my Mosin, but I got ig'nant and went off on him about how they treat customers packages. I hate dealing with UPS more than any other company, they fail to leave attempted delivery notices constantly, and their customer service(if you could call it that) is complete crap. USPS is a close runner up for crap service, since they seem to lose or mis-deliver a package of mine at least once a month.

icenix
12-21-2011, 1:52 PM
Just because it says out for delivery does not mean that it is minutes away from you. They scan it at the facility when it gets loaded on the truck that will be dropping it off. I will agree that almost all delivery companies suck, and they all are extremely rough with the packages they deliver, I came home once and a UPS driver was tossing a package over the railing on my balcony next to the stair case. Luckily nothing that could be easily damaged was in there, just the stock for my Mosin, but I got ig'nant and went off on him about how they treat customers packages. I hate dealing with UPS more than any other company, they fail to leave attempted delivery notices constantly, and their customer service(if you could call it that) is complete crap. USPS is a close runner up for crap service, since they seem to lose or mis-deliver a package of mine at least once a month.

Oh no, I know that. I just think I am on the end of whatever route this driver has, which sucks, lol.

As for all the other companies, I use USPS a lot because I have sold on eBay for many years. I have never really had any major problems with USPS, but I am sure problems do happen.

It makes me mad that "FedEx" is dealing with it. The guy should lose his job. You know if he has done it once, then he has probably done it many other times. You wonder how many packages are returned to companies because they are "damaged" when really it just comes from the people delivering them.

Furthermore, I believe UPS and FedEx (UPS at least) gets paid pretty well and has good benefits, kind of like employees at Costco. So they should care about their job a little more than that.

jetspeedz
12-21-2011, 1:54 PM
Be glad you are getting your items. UPS delivered my items to my neighbors and one of my packages went missing. Not ever using UPS without signature confirmation

chad68
12-21-2011, 6:21 PM
I had heard somehwere that if UPS drivers finish their routes faster than normal/time alloted, they get to go home ealier, with the same pay as if they did their job correctly/slower.

If there is any truth to that, maybe that's why they throw ***** and don't leave notices and all the other things they do to save time.

Bobby Ricigliano
12-22-2011, 2:45 AM
Much prefer USPS, even though some dick face in a sorting facility has a few of our slings that he snatched.

Was great, customer got the box looking like it was never opened.

I guess his fat government job with luxurious benefits wasn't quite enough. He had to pilfer people's boxes too. Low.

chrisf
12-22-2011, 2:51 AM
Is my thread still going on?? 2 gun purchases (almost 3 when I get back to california m44 mosin) later??

utahraptor
12-22-2011, 8:47 PM
I wish more people would ship USPS, UPS is slower than a snail in salt!

fusionstar
12-22-2011, 11:16 PM
So I decided to compare the shipping times from UPS and USPS as I made several orders from several different vendors.

RRA Order, Shipped UPS on the 22nd
(delivers on the 29th from Colona, IL)

PSA Order, Shipped UPS on the 21st
(delivers on the 29th from Columbia, SC)

SurplusAmmo Order, Shipped UPS on the 20th
(delivers on the 27th from Tacoma, WA)

WFT Order, Shipped USPS on the 22nd no delivery date yet

Brownells Order.Shipped USPS on the 21st
(Expected Delivery By: December 23, 2011, Currently In west sac sorting facility.. shipped from Montezuma, Iowa)

The usps parcel post (cheapest and slowest option from USPS) from brownells will be here tomorrow.

This in no way is related to the companies who I purchased from, they're great! except that PSA wont ship ammo to Sacramento. other than that they have great prices.

I stopped using UPS unless it was significantly cheaper than others and if it was the only available option.

jbush
12-24-2011, 2:47 AM
UPS always takes a few days longer from back east to here the USPS. I recently mailed (with regular postage) a padded envelope to Alabama. They had it in 3 days. They shipped back to me late on a Friday and I had it on Monday. That's fast.

Also, my UPS deliveries don't show up sometimes until between 8 and 9 pm at night.

The only problem Ive ever had with USPS was a gun barrel in a long triangle shaped shipping box. It was reinforced on both ends with 4 layers of cardboard, the barrel was wrapped in bubble wrap and the package had heavy crumpled brown paper in it to keep the barrel from moving in the box. It had been slammed so hard on the end that the barrel broke through the box, and they delivered me an empty box with a hole in the end and and never noted the contents were missing

prc77
12-25-2011, 7:11 PM
It funny how false your statement since UPS now handles 75% USPS parcel. UPS largest contract is with the USPS. Now think about that! It could be that Midwayusa didn't process your order in a timely manner.


USPS delivers parcels from, UPS, Fedex and Ontract. It is not cut and dry on who delivers what. USPS delivers every address every day it is not cost effective for FedEx and UPS to drive to the smaller towns across America just for a few parcels. Thats where the agreement between USPS,UPS and FedEx come into play. Post Office delivers all of there own parcels AND those of there competitors

GOPOSTALMAIL
12-26-2011, 7:51 AM
{USPS delivers parcels from, UPS, Fedex and Ontract. It is not cut and dry on who delivers what. USPS delivers every address every day it is not cost effective for FedEx and UPS to drive to the smaller towns across America just for a few parcels. Thats where the agreement between USPS,UPS and FedEx come into play. Post Office delivers all of there own parcels AND those of there competitors }

Thanks for setting the record straight.

During Christmas week, my local Post Office (one) here in Orange County delivered about 8 - 9,000 parcels a day (not a high volume office), including more than 150 from UPS dropship, 1,000 from FedEx Smartpost dropship, 300 from Ontract/Velocity/Newsgistics/DHL dropship. Usually these dropship came in after 07:00am cut off time and would be processed and delivered the next day ALL of them.