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Prc329
02-22-2007, 2:51 PM
O.k., I ordered one from Wes and it looks pretty cool. very evil on my terrorist gun.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0664.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0663.jpg

I plan on taking it to Angeles this weekend and seeing how it performs and if it throws off my accuracy or not. That is if the weather doesn't turn on me. It sure does look cool and I can actually see the advantage this one would have over the other can since it does not add to the length of the gun. That would make the other can a little more adjustable to the look you want. Now I need to buy an 18" barrel to put it on, I think it would look cooler on an 18" with a middy gas system.

DIG
02-22-2007, 3:46 PM
I bought the same cool widget. Not sure what got into me :rolleyes: .
Anyone WTB it, PM me.

Q
02-22-2007, 3:50 PM
looks nice! i might want to get one. by the way i think you meant antiterrorist gun. :D

Tzvia
02-22-2007, 5:18 PM
O.k., I ordered one from Wes and it looks pretty cool. very evil on my terrorist gun.


:confused: You're not Jim Zumbo in drag are you? :D

mltrading
02-22-2007, 5:19 PM
sweet!

shark92651
02-22-2007, 5:57 PM
Looks like someone is running low on Cuervo too :D

Socal858
02-22-2007, 6:01 PM
makes me want one more now

Prc329
02-22-2007, 6:43 PM
It adds weight, but it's not that much considering this is a bench gun and the barrel is a bit heavy already.

jester
02-23-2007, 6:58 AM
How much was it?

tenpercentfirearms
02-23-2007, 7:54 AM
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=272

Prc329
02-23-2007, 9:54 AM
Hey 10% are you going to carry the MFI one?

Mael
02-23-2007, 11:20 AM
I've never really understood why people feel the need to put non-functional, AR "bling" on their rifles. Fake 30 round mags, fake suppressors, etc. To each his own I guess :rolleyes:

Prc329
02-23-2007, 11:46 AM
The fake can is actually a cooling device. It helps enhance the heat dissipation of the barrel.

I'm just kidding, it just looks cool. 30 and 20 round look alike mags do have a purpose. You can use a 30 round mag as a monopod when shooting prone and a 20 round look alike is needed to be CMP legal if you are competing (at least that is what I read on the website).

tenpercentfirearms
02-23-2007, 12:45 PM
I think I am going to abandon the custom MFIs with calguns on them, but I might order 5 or so. Give me a couple of weeks.

Prc329
02-23-2007, 12:50 PM
Maybe some with no markings?

Tweak338
02-23-2007, 12:51 PM
Why do the Spike cans have no markings?

Cpl_Peters
02-23-2007, 1:06 PM
enchantor has a bunch of the them that he sells on ebay. He has some with markings, some without and of different lengths. He also have ones that go over the barrel or extend out from it. Send him or me a PM if interested

tpliquid1
02-23-2007, 3:27 PM
how long is the can?

if over 5.5 inch i will go out and buy a LMT 10.5 and weld that bad boy on so i look tacticool

Prc329
02-23-2007, 4:55 PM
Before anyone gets any ideas, the Spikes can is basically a barrel shroud. If you want to do a 10.5 or 14" build you will want to weld on the MFI can, but then you might as well use a 16" barrel and the 2" spacer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0669.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0668.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0667.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/IMG_0666.jpg

Jicko
02-23-2007, 6:28 PM
Will it fit a 16" M4 profile barrel??

Cpl_Peters
02-23-2007, 6:47 PM
they do have barrel shroud ones but there are also 5.5 inch add ons..enchantor has both

tenpercentfirearms
02-23-2007, 6:57 PM
As was stated, the Spike's Tactical is basically a barrel shroud. The threads are on the muzzle end and it fits over your standard sized AR barrel. It most certainly will fit a M4 profile barrel. I have not tried it yet, but I would think it would look the best on a carbine length M4 upper.

I personally wouldn't want a 11.5" upper. You have to stay at 16" anyway, so why not keep the extra barrel length and velocity? Adding a Spike's Tactical Fake can would give you the look of a shorter surpressed gun, but you could always change your mind later unlike a permanently fixed 11.5" with a MFI fake can permanently welded on. Just my two cents and you are more than welcome to do as you wish, because after all, this is about what you want. :D

pewpewguns
02-23-2007, 7:13 PM
I have a 20'' pre-ban upper marked HBAR 5.56 NATO that I'm thinking about putting one of these on, Can anyone tell me if the A2 flash hider is removable on this? It looks like a normal A2 flash hider but I was having trouble removing it, did any of the 20 '' pre-bans get pinned ?

Jicko
02-23-2007, 7:14 PM
As was stated, the Spike's Tactical is basically a barrel shroud. The threads are on the muzzle end and it fits over your standard sized AR barrel. It most certainly will fit a M4 profile barrel. I have not tried it yet, but I would think it would look the best on a carbine length M4 upper.

I was worrying that 5.5" from a 16" M4 barrel, would just be covering half or 1/4 of the "notch"... that may make a M4 looks really strange.....

tenpercentfirearms
02-23-2007, 7:15 PM
I was worrying that 5.5" from a 16" M4 barrel, would just be covering half or 1/4 of the "notch"... that may make a M4 looks really strange.....
Well that means when I get a chance I will have to pop the A2 FH off of one of my shop Stags and take a picture to find out! Now, getting time to do that before next year is the challenge. :rolleyes:

Prc329
02-23-2007, 7:30 PM
Once my daughter goes to bed I will pop out to my safe and take some measurements.

Jicko
02-23-2007, 7:34 PM
Well that means when I get a chance I will have to pop the A2 FH off of one of my shop Stags and take a picture to find out! Now, getting time to do that before next year is the challenge. :rolleyes:

Thanks Wes! I hope that you can do it before you got the new MM, so that I can bundle this can and a new MM and a fake 10/30....

I love fake stuffs!!!!

tenpercentfirearms
02-23-2007, 7:52 PM
Well I am not driving to Burbank tomorrow so maybe I will go work at the shop all day while we are closed so I can catch up on my long list of things to do and maybe I can have a picture by time the MonsterMan shows up next week.

Prc329
02-23-2007, 8:31 PM
I was worrying that 5.5" from a 16" M4 barrel, would just be covering half or 1/4 of the "notch"... that may make a M4 looks really strange.....

From my measurements I believe it will cover the notch. I am to lazy to mount it to my upper with the M4. Plus, I need to get some rest I gotta get to Angeles around 10:30 tomorrow (hour drive).

Fjold
02-23-2007, 8:34 PM
I've never really understood why people feel the need to put non-functional, AR "bling" on their rifles. Fake 30 round mags, fake suppressors, etc. To each his own I guess :rolleyes:

In my case, I'm going to get one because I pulled the flashider to run a detachable magazine and tried a muzzle brake but didn't like the extra noise so I'm going to use the fake can as a thread protector.

Prc329
02-23-2007, 8:36 PM
In my case, I'm going to get one because I pulled the flashider to run a detachable magazine and tried a muzzle brake but didn't like the extra noise so I'm going to use the fake can as a thread protector.

That was the main reason I bought it. I bought a stag break and it was just horrible ($12, oh well).

Prc329
02-24-2007, 2:28 PM
O.k., its official. my rifle is more accurate then I am. Also the Fake can did actually help in keeping the barrel cooler and accuracy was affected but nothing that would matter in my typ of shooting. I opened up my groups by maybe a .25 moa. I just need to work on my technique.

Jicko
02-25-2007, 8:49 AM
From my measurements I believe it will cover the notch. I am to lazy to mount it to my upper with the M4. Plus, I need to get some rest I gotta get to Angeles around 10:30 tomorrow (hour drive).


Spike's website said that it is only 5".... if that the case, it will only cover portion of the notch... which is worse than covering the whole notch... :-(

But then I may as well get one... as a thread protector... lol :D

Prc329
02-25-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm rebarreling my m4 soon to a 1-8 heavy barrel. If I stop being lazy today i will mount the can on and take pics.

EricCartmann
02-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Nice!

naimad
02-25-2007, 12:10 PM
I think I am going to abandon the custom MFIs with calguns on them, but I might order 5 or so. Give me a couple of weeks.

Wes i would be interested in one of the MFIs all balck no markings :D

indetrucks
02-25-2007, 12:19 PM
I've never really understood why people feel the need to put non-functional, AR "bling" on their rifles. Fake 30 round mags, fake suppressors, etc. To each his own I guess :rolleyes:

We woouldn't if we didn't live in CA. But since we do and we like the look of it.. Why not

Looks great man!!

pewpewguns
02-25-2007, 12:57 PM
I've never really understood why people feel the need to put non-functional, AR "bling" on their rifles. Fake 30 round mags, fake suppressors, etc. To each his own I guess :rolleyes:

Yeah whats wrong with having a rifle that looks good? A lot of people take pride in their toys ;)

It's not like every firearm you buy needs to be a tool that operates at maximum efficiency.

Prc329
02-25-2007, 1:41 PM
Yeah whats wrong with having a rifle that looks good? A lot of people take pride in their toys ;)

It's not like every firearm you buy needs to be a tool that operates at maximum efficiency.

That's what my XD is for. The ARs are just plain fun. I am building a competition gun that will be all business.

EricCartmann
02-25-2007, 2:19 PM
I've never really understood why people feel the need to put non-functional, AR "bling" on their rifles. Fake 30 round mags, fake suppressors, etc. To each his own I guess :rolleyes:

some us are not as cool or as rich as you so we do what we have to do to get by.

as for me, any upgrade I do, the first question I ask myself is "will this make my rifle look cooler" i also buy things such as surefire, leupolds, acogs, not because i really need them, i just like designer sshhiitt.

Prc329
02-25-2007, 2:29 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/IMG_0733.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/IMG_0734.jpg

O.K., I'm buying a second one. That just looks really cool and like I said, it covers the notch.

Jicko
02-25-2007, 2:30 PM
I'm rebarreling my m4 soon to a 1-8 heavy barrel. If I stop being lazy today i will mount the can on and take pics.

Why 1/8? Why don't u go all out to 1/7.... I know that 1/8 can probably stablize any magazine feedable 223s (up to 77 or 80gr)....

Prc329
02-25-2007, 2:35 PM
I have two guns in 1-8 and I like the way they perform in the chossen loads. I shoot mainly XM193 and I just fell in love with wolf gold 75 grain. It has worked very well in my two other builds. I also have an A2 in 1-7 on the way.

Jicko
02-25-2007, 2:38 PM
Damn, it looks REAL cool... so can you tell me how long it is?? it HAVE to be longer than 5"!!

The tip of the barrel is the same as the tip of the can, right?


O.K., I'm buying a second one. That just looks really cool and like I said, it covers the notch.

Prc329
02-25-2007, 2:43 PM
Yeah, it's closer to 5.5 inches long and yeah, it is flush with the tip of the barrel.

Jicko
02-25-2007, 2:58 PM
Yeah, it's closer to 5.5 inches long and yeah, it is flush with the tip of the barrel.

Ok then! Cuz I think the end of my notch to the tip of my Colt barrel is about 5.5 or 5.6 inches.

One last question, different barrels have different diameter.... when you put the fake can on your M4 profile barrel, are there any space between the inside wall of the can and your barrel?

Prc329
02-25-2007, 3:00 PM
I didn't really pay attention. I think there is barely any if any at all.

enchantor
03-18-2007, 8:28 PM
If anyone would like these I have them in stock. I mostly sell them on eBay but I have an online store too. (Click (http://members.cox.net/ericfricke/silc.html))

If you're interested PM me, I'll knock $20 off my store price for Calguns members.


Very nice looking set-ups with these btw!

Eric

tenpercentfirearms
04-18-2007, 9:51 PM
Here is what you have been waiting for ladies and gentleman!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=55503

I must say I really, really like the SD1 and SD2 cans. As soon as I get the funds, I am building one of those bad boys up with a Daniel Defense rail for the complete SD look. I might just have to do that Saturday before I go to the prom!

tenpercentfirearms
04-19-2007, 5:34 AM
That looks to be the CAR1. The CAR1 is just the type that goes right over the end of the barrel and does not add any length. Maybe you ordered the SD1 which is made to look more like an MP5SD supressor.

Tim, e-mail me and if you have one you can't use, maybe I could do some exchanging with you. guns@tenpercentfirearms.com

Prc329
04-19-2007, 6:25 AM
What 10% said. It is the one that does not add any length to the barrel.

proraptor
04-19-2007, 7:48 AM
You guys should send a private message to member on here Enchantor as he sells these things cheap! I got one from him and love it

tenpercentfirearms
04-19-2007, 8:11 AM
Oh, one more thing. I need to get in some micro gas blocks so I can help set up these MP5SD builds. Can you guys give me any good links to some micro gas blocks? I think CMMG might have some, but I need to start checking.

Prc329
04-19-2007, 8:13 AM
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cat=5

cmmg

Mr.RoDiN
04-19-2007, 11:30 PM
Im interested to see the can on a Kel Tec su 16 ca. Anyone have a setup like this? If so can you please post a pic?

Jicko
04-19-2007, 11:51 PM
Oh, one more thing. I need to get in some micro gas blocks so I can help set up these MP5SD builds. Can you guys give me any good links to some micro gas blocks? I think CMMG might have some, but I need to start checking.

Vltor has a VERY nice one.

http://images22.fotki.com/v754/photos/2/26966/4762546/IMG_9740-vi.jpg

Tweak338
04-20-2007, 12:03 AM
Im interested to see the can on a Kel Tec su 16 ca. Anyone have a setup like this? If so can you please post a pic?

if no one posts one next time I see Soup Nazi i'll have him take a picture with my fake can on his..

Prc329
04-20-2007, 6:17 AM
Vltor has a VERY nice one.

http://images22.fotki.com/v754/photos/2/26966/4762546/IMG_9740-vi.jpg

I like the Vltor one a lot. I have two on diffrent rigs. Fits very snug and looks good to.

Mr.RoDiN
04-20-2007, 2:21 PM
if no one posts one next time I see Soup Nazi i'll have him take a picture with my fake can on his..

THANKS!

vikingshelmut
04-20-2007, 3:32 PM
Ok, so now I'm wanting one! I should be picking up a Stag 3H upper shortly, and installing a Troy MRF-MX FF handguard. I'm curious which length can I should get so that it extends completely underneath the handguard? My understanding is that on this upper the barrel is 16", and it has a carbine-length gas system. If I replace the gas block with a micro block, will the 8" SD1 fit?

Jicko
04-20-2007, 3:37 PM
Ok, so now I'm wanting one! I should be picking up a Stag 3H upper shortly, and installing a Troy MRF-MX FF handguard. I'm curious which length can I should get so that it extends completely underneath the handguard? My understanding is that on this upper the barrel is 16", and it has a carbine-length gas system. If I replace the gas block with a micro block, will the 8" SD1 fit?

Nope, I don't think so.

My understanding is, micro gas block is only for the gas block to be able to mount INSIDE the 4 rails FF hand guards.

So, you can opt for a longer hand guards, and then use a 6" SD can...

It will have a KICK *** look.. !!

Prc329
04-20-2007, 3:41 PM
I have a vltor that fits under the MI free float. The YHM free float is huge indise so any low pro gas block will worl. I am sure the vltor could also fit under the troy as well. I am not positive though.

vikingshelmut
04-20-2007, 3:42 PM
If I have a 16" barrel, add a 10" handguard, and a 6" can, I guess they would possibly "meet in the middle", which might be close enough for me. If only there was a 6.5".... :)

02supervic
04-21-2007, 4:19 AM
Probably a stupid noob question but if these things slide over the existing barrel with no extension to it why is accuracy changed? I mean its basically a thread protector right? :confused:

ta2oed1
04-21-2007, 5:20 AM
The only way that an extensionless, slide on accoutrement can effect the accuracy of a barrel is if it in some way created a screwy harmonic during exit of the projectile. Not likely to be noticable by the average plinker.

Prc329
04-21-2007, 2:39 PM
Peep the end thread model :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/DSC00924.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/DSC00925.jpg

If it doesn't rain I will be able to see if it screws up accuracy. This gun and my trigger finger can do 1" at 100 yards with the YHM muzzle break on it.

ta2oed1
04-21-2007, 3:04 PM
Did you have the fluting done? Pretty groovy.

Jicko
04-21-2007, 4:25 PM
Peep the end thread model :)

If it doesn't rain I will be able to see if it screws up accuracy. This gun and my trigger finger can do 1" at 100 yards with the YHM muzzle break on it.

I personally think that the way you had it setup *before* looks nicer.... ie. with the fake can covering up your barrel....

Prc329
04-21-2007, 4:58 PM
Did you have the fluting done? Pretty groovy.

It came that way from DPMS.

I personally think that the way you had it setup *before* looks nicer.... ie. with the fake can covering up your barrel....

Never had one on this build. It was to long for it. The gas block was to far out and would not fit. if it had a mid gas instead of rifle it would work, but then I would be hiding the flutes. The other rifle is in a completely different configuration.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/DSC00910.jpg

Jicko
04-21-2007, 5:01 PM
I must have your rifles/toys confused.... basically... I think... a stainless steel barrel with a SS brake make sense.... with a black can.... doesn't....

Prc329
04-21-2007, 5:04 PM
I must have your rifles/toys confused.... basically... I think... a stainless steel barrel with a SS brake make sense.... with a black can.... doesn't....

I feel ya and point noted.....but.....I like so its all good.

Biff...
04-24-2007, 3:18 PM
I have a question on the spike tacitical fake can I just got. Do I have to add loctite(sp) to the end of threads in order to avoid trouble?

Jicko
04-24-2007, 3:35 PM
I have a question on the spike tacitical fake can I just got. Do I have to add loctite(sp) to the end of threads in order to avoid trouble?

Not really...

But then.... I dunno *what* trouble u r trying to refer to...

Biff...
04-24-2007, 3:39 PM
Not really...

But then.... I dunno *what* trouble u r trying to refer to...

Just in general, I don't was a LEO unscrewing the can in front of me and telling me I have something illegal.

Jicko
04-24-2007, 4:03 PM
Just in general, I don't was a LEO unscrewing the can in front of me and telling me I have something illegal.

1st of all.... there is NOTHING illegal about these fake can.... it is a SOLID piece of metal.... and with the slip on model.... the tip of the barrel is exposed... so, the bullet won't even travel thru your can....

Secondly, if the LEO stupidly think that your can is illegal, then whether it can be "unscrewed" or not.... YOU ARE SCREWED!! (But eventually, you will come out OK, since, that LEO will be seriously laughed at by his peer and he DA....)

Having it "removable" or not, does not contribute to the legality of this item.

Surveyor
04-24-2007, 4:26 PM
1st of all.... there is NOTHING illegal about these fake can.... it is a SOLID piece of metal.... and with the slip on model.... the tip of the barrel is exposed... so, the bullet won't even travel thru your can....

Secondly, if the LEO stupidly think that your can is illegal, then whether it can be "unscrewed" or not.... YOU ARE SCREWED!! (But eventually, you will come out OK, since, that LEO will be seriously laughed at by his peer and he DA....)

Having it "removable" or not, does not contribute to the legality of this item.

Unless your barrel is under 16" of course. Then it would have to be pinned or welded, or duct taped really, really well (JK).

tenpercentfirearms
04-24-2007, 5:19 PM
You can shoot your gun with nothing on the end of it and it is still legal. There is nothing in the law that says you can't have a threaded barrel. You just can't have a flash hider.