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jmsenk
11-13-2011, 7:55 PM
What seems to be the consensus on loaded magazines in your BOB or GHB? How many do you carry? I have gone back and forth on the issue, at times only having one loaded mag (SD rounds) with each pistol, and the others I'd keep empty for training or dry fire work... and other times I've gone the opposite direction, having a full load out ready to roll at all times. currently I am on this cycle.

I have heard opinions on both - the most prevelent being that keeping mags loaded up constantly will compromise the spring, but I have seen no tangible evidence of this, and this is how I kept my kit for several 1yr+ iterations under, lets say, "hard use" and never had any issues (other than your basic ones with POS gear made by the lowest bidder)

How many mags do yall keep? how many loaded? whats your thinking behind this? is everything loaded with SD ammo, or do you change up your magazines (again, this is something I have heard several schools of thought on, each from very tactical people who's opinions I respect... but that might be a whole different conversation)

jeep7081
11-13-2011, 8:05 PM
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Panchira!
11-13-2011, 8:18 PM
I rotate my mags I have one loaded for a week then unload and reload a new mag. Usually by shooting it at the range hahah

As for springs wearing I don't buy it. If they did then our cars would be sitting on the frames. Don't get me wrong though they do break in and settle but I would imagine that would take so many years in a mag I think the whole gun would be a pile of dust ahahaha

Oceanbob
11-13-2011, 8:21 PM
My GHB (plastic Tub with lid really) I carry my Glock 20 10MM and a Glock 21 (.45)...I bought these Mag Pouches...brown for 10MM (15 round mags) and Black for .45 auto (13 round mags)

I reload all my calibers and I run (shoot) these mags at least every 6 months. No problems with feeding or spring set. I did change all the springs to WOLF +10% springs and I have several rebuild kits with springs and followers at hand.

I prefer to have my AMMO ready to rock and roll and these mag pouches have belt loops (with velcro) and are extremely handy to transport ammo in.

I don't want to carry empty mags and boxed ammo and have to load up. I prefer to just grab one and move out. (if needed)

My GHB plans are formulated around a Major Earthquake in Southern Calipornia that shuts down water, electricity, roads, freeways, overpasses, emergency services, ATM machines, Medical help and roaming gangs of hungry looters targeting people with uncontrolled fires in the backround. :D

If I am trapped at work or out of my area I want to make decisions about moving out on foot or camping (living) in my car depending on the neighborhood. I don't want to load up magazines. JMO folks.

I bought these mag holsters here:

http://glockstore.com/pgroup_descrip/378_Magazine+Holsters/7834_In-Line+Magazines+Carriers/?return=%3ftpl%3Dindex%26category_id%3D378%26_Maga zine%2BHolsters%2F


http://i51.tinypic.com/25ivv49.jpg


http://i56.tinypic.com/16712fd.jpg

Be well, Bob

DannyInSoCal
11-13-2011, 8:35 PM
I prefer Hustler and Juggs....

ginman
11-13-2011, 8:49 PM
I keep only 4 mags loaded for my glock 23 and an additional 2 for my glock 27. I rotate mags at the end of every month. I have heard that its fine to leave them loaded for long periods of time. If I were to keep the same ones loaded for a long period of time, I might load the mags one round shy, I've heard it makes the springs last longer when they are not at full tension. Also I would keep more like 6 loaded at once but I need to buy more mags. As for SD ammo I use speer gold dot or federal hst.

223556
11-13-2011, 8:56 PM
I usually have 3 pistol mags ready to go with defensive ammo and 5 rifle mags loaded with 5.56. Never had a problem with springs going bad.
But I do unloaded them and then load them up again after awhile so the springs can "stretch out" lol, this is just my theory.
Sometimes I feel I should just unload them all and load up when needed since I do have my Mossberg loaded 24/7/365...

97F1504RAD
11-13-2011, 8:57 PM
I prefer Hustler and Juggs....

I was thinking the same thing when I read the title. Yes my mind is in the gutter, My choice would be Hustler.

TurboChrisB
11-13-2011, 8:59 PM
Search this site, keeping mags loaded up will NOT compromise the spring. I have mags that have been loaded NON STOP for 20 years that are as good as new. It's the cycling of the spring (loaded then unloaded) which will create "wear and tear" on it. Use a mag a LOT and eventually you may see some loss of tension in it. But load one up and put it on a shelf? With very FEW exceptions it'll be ready to go YEARS down the road.

chris
11-14-2011, 1:13 PM
i have some mags loaded and some not. it depends what i feel like doing at the time. it is your choice what to do. i do have mags that have been loaded for years and have used them with no issues.

Ripon83
11-14-2011, 1:26 PM
I don't keep my magazines loaded. For HD I keep revolver(S) available but for the BOV (bug out vehicle) I have magazines/ammo. If I need a BOB I'm dead - I wanna drive.

Mr.1904
11-14-2011, 1:58 PM
3-4 mags loaded for each weapon at all times.

thenodnarb
11-14-2011, 1:59 PM
I'm more worried about the feed lips than the spring. It might not be a problem for well designed magazines, but certain mags are more susceptible to the feed lips spreading apart.

gorn5150
11-14-2011, 4:10 PM
I was told by the lead S&W instructor at pistol armorer school that the wire used in Smith mags is called "Rocket wire" by them. He said you leave the mags loaded forever and the wire won't fail. I would think other quality brands would use something that would be equivalent to that or better.

If I had after market mags (and I do), then I would be suspicious of them and treat them different than factory mags.

Revulshawn
11-14-2011, 5:05 PM
I prefer Hustler and Juggs....


Gah! Beat me to it.

secret.asian.man
11-14-2011, 5:39 PM
My GHB (plastic Tub with lid really) I carry my Glock 20 10MM and a Glock 21 (.45)...I bought these Mag Pouches...brown for 10MM (15 round mags) and Black for .45 auto (13 round mags)

I reload all my calibers and I run (shoot) these mags at least every 6 months. No problems with feeding or spring set. I did change all the springs to WOLF +10% springs and I have several rebuild kits with springs and followers at hand.

I prefer to have my AMMO ready to rock and roll and these mag pouches have belt loops (with velcro) and are extremely handy to transport ammo in.

I don't want to carry empty mags and boxed ammo and have to load up. I prefer to just grab one and move out. (if needed)

My GHB plans are formulated around a Major Earthquake in Southern Calipornia that shuts down water, electricity, roads, freeways, overpasses, emergency services, ATM machines, Medical help and roaming gangs of hungry looters targeting people with uncontrolled fires in the backround. :D

If I am trapped at work or out of my area I want to make decisions about moving out on foot or camping (living) in my car depending on the neighborhood. I don't want to load up magazines. JMO folks.

I bought these mag holsters here:

http://glockstore.com/pgroup_descrip/378_Magazine+Holsters/7834_In-Line+Magazines+Carriers/?return=%3ftpl%3Dindex%26category_id%3D378%26_Maga zine%2BHolsters%2F


http://i51.tinypic.com/25ivv49.jpg


http://i56.tinypic.com/16712fd.jpg

Be well, Bob

awesome pouches!

Scout2Diesel
11-14-2011, 7:35 PM
+1 x2 I have come across many a worn out automotive springs on Scout 4x4s. Put a lot of weight on and work them - they will relax.


Search this site, keeping mags loaded up will NOT compromise the spring. I have mags that have been loaded NON STOP for 20 years that are as good as new. It's the cycling of the spring (loaded then unloaded) which will create "wear and tear" on it. Use a mag a LOT and eventually you may see some loss of tension in it. But load one up and put it on a shelf? With very FEW exceptions it'll be ready to go YEARS down the road.

I notice this on single stacks the most ymmv.

I'm more worried about the feed lips than the spring. It might not be a problem for well designed magazines, but certain mags are more susceptible to the feed lips spreading apart.

Changalang
11-14-2011, 8:35 PM
springs get "worn" from compressing and decompressing multiple times. it is that compression cycle that lowers follower spring tensions. keeping mags loaded does not compromise the strength of your springs. my 2 cents

HIG541
11-14-2011, 8:39 PM
Search this site, keeping mags loaded up will NOT compromise the spring. I have mags that have been loaded NON STOP for 20 years that are as good as new. It's the cycling of the spring (loaded then unloaded) which will create "wear and tear" on it. Use a mag a LOT and eventually you may see some loss of tension in it. But load one up and put it on a shelf? With very FEW exceptions it'll be ready to go YEARS down the road.

This is what will fatigue metal.

SDM44
11-15-2011, 1:04 PM
Those TUFF pouches are nice, but expensive. I went a cheaper route and just picked up a 6-mag pouch from MidwayUSA for $12, since it stays in my BOB. Plus, it also has belt loops on the back if I want to wear it. The only difference is that the cover flap doesn't remove like it does on the TUFF one, so it's not a great holster to wear.

It fits my G19 mags in there perfectly, so I can keep 95 rounds loaded and ready to go in my bag. I did this for my dedicated BOB G26, and my G19 that I would grab out of the safe and also take with me. Sure the loaded mags adds some weight, but no more than 2 loose boxes of 9mm rounds.


Even though I wasn't concerned with this, I went ahead and bought 6 new factory Glock mag springs to put into my older G19 mags. They were only a few bucks each, and now I have a better feeling of the mags not failing on me if they sit around before I use them.

stix213
11-15-2011, 4:55 PM
I keep 4 mags for my G26 in my car's emergency bag, and another 75 rounds in boxes. On top of that another box of .380 for my Sig P238 I often have with me. That's likely well more than enough, but I figure if I'm in my car I'm away from home and won't get the opportunity to grab more ammo if I thought I needed more.

At home I keep my backpacking gear ready to go as a bug out bag, but I figure I'll have a few minutes to decide what kind of firearm and ammo I need depending on where I am going.

For example, if I need to head to the forest I'll probably grab an AR with about 50 rounds of .223, my .22LR conversion drop in, and several hundred rounds of .22lr. Plus my 10mm Glock with 10-20 rounds. If I'm just heading to a hotel in Eureka I would pack differently, probably a bunch of .380 for my Sig and 9mm for my G17C with no long gun.