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natedogg1777
02-21-2007, 6:03 PM
What are some good deals out there right now excluding wolf(I have plenty of that already). Canned heat has been reliable for me, and the Hunting Shack seems pretty reasonable...what else is out there right now?

SemiAutoSam
02-21-2007, 6:50 PM
180.00 for a 720 round can and 28-30 UPS shipping to the west coast.

Disregard the 160.00 price on web page.

http://www.iscnetwork.com/patsreloading/ammo.htm

Lohse
02-21-2007, 7:18 PM
I'm glad I just picked up my 223. I bought it from pats a few weeks ago and got 4 cans for $180 per can shipped. Make sure to order in increments of 2 cans because the shipping on 2 cans is just over 40 bucks.

sthornwall
02-21-2007, 8:04 PM
One of your best bets would be to stock up when the gun show comes into town. You usually get a fairly decent price without paying shipping. The GS comes to Del Mar about every three months, this is the only time I purchase ammo. I have not found better prices locally in San Diego county.

natedogg1777
02-21-2007, 8:41 PM
I just bought some Wolf 55gr. HP for $105.00/1000(unbelievable I know, but I can still get it at that price), I just wanted some different options...any good sources out there right now for Guatemalan?

chiefcrash
02-21-2007, 8:52 PM
http://www.outdoormarksman.com/product_info.php?cPath=65_63_33&products_id=70656

SemiAutoSam
02-21-2007, 9:03 PM
OK deal but no strippers and bandoleers. thats equal to .26 cents a round not inc shipping.

http://www.outdoormarksman.com/product_info.php?cPath=65_63_33&products_id=70656

anotherted
02-21-2007, 9:09 PM
Ammo bros had 55gr reloads for $109.00/500 at ontario.

grammaton76
02-22-2007, 1:34 AM
Yep... Ammobros is the best deal in town, when they can get projectiles. Lately, that's been an issue for them. :(

Anyway, in the local SD area, probably your best bet is the Federal that American Shooting Center seems to have on sale whenever I'm in there. The price isn't too bad on it.

Of course, if you reload, you can make plinking ammo yourself for about 8.7c/rd...

Whitesmoke
02-22-2007, 4:16 AM
Of course, if you reload, you can make plinking ammo yourself for about 8.7c/rd...

but...only if you already have the brass. I like to stock pile....so it costs me about 18 cents a round including brass.

but your right...for my revolving plinking supply 8 cents is doable....

chiefcrash
02-22-2007, 7:21 AM
OK deal but no strippers and bandoleers. thats equal to .26 cents a round not inc shipping.

i make no claims for this being the best stuff out there. I personally would take this stuff over wolf and Radway Green though. Luckily i still got a 1000 rounds of some guatamalan...

SemiAutoSam
02-22-2007, 7:29 AM
I guess we should be happy we can buy ammo at all.

Have a look at this thread from NorthEastShooters.com

I have a feeling it will be this way all over the country in the next 5-10 years or maybe even sooner.

I have a feeling I will find alot better deal on the ammo at a local Gunshow or even The Big Reno Show.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16785

ocabj
02-22-2007, 7:37 AM
If I *had* to shoot someone else's reloads, it would either be:

Black Hills blue box
Hunting Shack

If this guy is still selling Hornady Remanufactured ammo, I would also get this:

http://www.radomski.us/njhp/major.htm

xrMike
02-22-2007, 11:53 AM
If I *had* to shoot someone else's reloads, it would either be:

Black Hills blue box
Hunting Shack

If this guy is still selling Hornady Remanufactured ammo, I would also get this:

http://www.radomski.us/njhp/major.htm

Do you think the major's stuff is as good as Black Hills blue box?

Seriously thinking about order 1K... Have you tried it?

Also, what is the highest (loosest?) twist you'd shoot this stuff through -- 1:8? 1:9? ?

grammaton76
02-22-2007, 12:10 PM
but...only if you already have the brass. I like to stock pile....so it costs me about 18 cents a round including brass.

but your right...for my revolving plinking supply 8 cents is doable....

All I've got to say is, indoor ranges... :)

Some ranges don't mind if you pick up rifle brass, as long as you don't touch the handgun brass that they reload. I frequently leave with a hundred or so extra 223 casings from my range.

BTW, http://www.brassworldonline.org/ - once fired 223 brass for about 4 cents apiece. Flat rate shipping... and occasionally they get in 6.8SPC brass. :)

ocabj
02-22-2007, 2:20 PM
Do you think the major's stuff is as good as Black Hills blue box?

Seriously thinking about order 1K... Have you tried it?

Also, what is the highest (loosest?) twist you'd shoot this stuff through -- 1:8? 1:9? ?

From what I've read on the National Match forums, this stuff is good. A year ago they did have a couple bad rounds reported where the case split on a competitor, but out of how many hundreds of thousands of rounds sold, a few bad rounds is expected.

Anyway, I've never tried any of it, but from what I understand, 24.0gr of Varget and a Hornady 75gr BTHP will duplicate the Hornady remanufactured ammo the Major sells. For those that don't reload, this is a good solid recipe and should work in almost any rifle. As far as twist rate, Hornady themselves claims that you can shoot their 75gr BTHP in a 1 in 9" twist. I think that's a "Your Mileage May Vary" situation. I know it will shoot in 1 in 8" or better. One of the guys at my range bought some 75gr A-Max bullets off me to load for his Savage in .223 which has a 1 in 9" twist, and he got good groups with it. But again, you may want to test the bullet if you have a 1 in 9" before you go buying 1000 rounds of it.

If anyone is interested in it, you should give the Major a call. Not sure how accurate that webpage is, if it's still up to date, etc.

GTKrockeTT
02-22-2007, 2:26 PM
From what I've read on the National Match forums, this stuff is good. A year ago they did have a couple bad rounds reported where the case split on a competitor, but out of how many hundreds of thousands of rounds sold, a few bad rounds is expected.

Anyway, I've never tried any of it, but from what I understand, 24.0gr of Varget and a Hornady 75gr BTHP will duplicate the Hornady remanufactured ammo the Major sells. For those that don't reload, this is a good solid recipe and should work in almost any rifle. As far as twist rate, Hornady themselves claims that you can shoot their 75gr BTHP in a 1 in 9" twist. I think that's a "Your Mileage May Vary" situation. I know it will shoot in 1 in 8" or better. One of the guys at my range bought some 75gr A-Max bullets off me to load for his Savage in .223 which has a 1 in 9" twist, and he got good groups with it. But again, you may want to test the bullet if you have a 1 in 9" before you go buying 1000 rounds of it. Or better yet, build another rifle with a 1 in 7" if it doesn't.

If anyone is interested in it, you should give the Major a call. Not sure how accurate that webpage is, if it's still up to date, etc.

fixed it for you. ;)

ocabj
02-22-2007, 2:49 PM
fixed it for you. ;)

Heh. That'll work.

xrMike
02-22-2007, 3:11 PM
Yeah, I have a 1:7 so I'm good to go. But my buddy has a High Standard carbine-style upper that he's not sure what the twist is on it...

I just wanted to know if he could shoot this stuff through his.

Ocabj, as always man -- you are the source of some of the most useful info on this board (for me anyway).

ocabj
02-22-2007, 7:27 PM
1 in 9" is not ideal for heavy bullets, specifically 77gr and higher, which are primarily used for competition shooting (NRA/CMP high power), and in limited numbers by military special operations (77gr ammo via MK262).

1 in 9" for some reason was picked by most of the commercial AR manufacturers. Perhaps they thought it gave the best balance as far as light bullets are concerned. You could shoot a wide range of bullets from 40gr on to 69, and possibly (according to Hornady), 75gr.

For some reason, complete rifles from commercial manufacturers are very rare with a 1 in 7" twist. Colt is still the only company that really pumps out rifles in 1 in 7" for the commercial market.

Some will argue that 1 in 7" is too fast. As long as you shoot 55gr or higher, you're ok. Some will claim that 55gr won't shoot accurately in a 1 in 7". My question to those that make this claim is why won't it? You need a higher twist rate to stabilize longer bullets. So if you have a fast twist rate, there's not reason why it can't stablize a lighter bullet. It's not like you can overstabilize a bullet.

The only reason you would want to stay 'heavy enough' for 1 in 7" is in the rare chance that you tear the jacket off the bullet. There is a possibility that the jacket will separate from the core if you shoot a light round in a fast twist rate barrel at a fast enough muzzle velocity. 55gr is more than heavy enough in a 1 in 7" to avoid this. I even shot 52gr out of a 1 in 7" with no problem. 40gr on the other hand might be an issue...

That's why you don't really ever see 1 in 9" ARs on the firing line at any service rifle high power competition. Everyone's either got a 1 in 8" or 1 in 7" (or a weird variation like 1 in 7.7"). Heavier and better bullets for 22cal that came out in the 1990s is the reason why ARs now dominate service rifle high power. The rifle itself was accurate; the ammo wasn't.

But, 1 in 9" is perfectly fine for the regular, non service rifle high power shooter. Most people shoot 55gr or 62gr surplus at the range and that's it. Even 3 gunners may go as high as 69gr Sierra Match Kings, but that's it.

JOEKILLA
02-26-2007, 7:57 AM
Natchezss has some AE FMJ 55gr for 5.25/20rd box, cheapest I can find online.

Vepr62
02-26-2007, 5:19 PM
Ok, Gentlemen. Would somebody share the recepy for 8 cents per round reloads? I spend 3-4c/round on primer, 10-12 c/round bullet, plus undetermined yet ammount on powder. What am I doing wrong? Oh, and I don't want to cast my own bullets. The Sportsmans Warehouse got some ULTRAMAX remanufactured ammo for 13.99/50 rounds.Thank ya'll.
Vasiliy

Jicko
02-26-2007, 5:57 PM
out of curiosity whats bad about my 1:9 thats what my bushy is.

It probably will not stablize the heavier bullets.... ie. 75gr or 77gr...which are the rounds the you would want to you if you want to shoot "further" with your AR platform...

Look on ammo-oracle.com for more info.

Vepr62
02-27-2007, 11:08 AM
So, nobody wants to give me the recepy for 8 cents/round reloads for .223?
Natchez http://natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?contentID=ammoGroup&ammoGroup=1&searchBy=size&size=29&mfg=&brandCompare=&startRow=1 got some affordable ammo. 55gr. Nato (Federal) and 55 gr. S&B, for $5.99/box of 20, or $5.59 for 10 boxes.
Vasiliy

ocabj
02-27-2007, 11:14 AM
8 cents a round? Where are you getting this number from? I don't think anyone can reload .223 for under 10 cents a round.

Golden West Brass has 55gr FMJ for $128 per 2000. That alone is 6.5 cents per bullet.

Even with WC844 at $100 per 8lb keg, and at 25.0gr per round, that's 4.5 cents per round.

Make it 2 cents per primer and you've got 13 cents per round not counting brass.

gn3hz3ku1*
02-27-2007, 12:17 PM
I just bought some Wolf 55gr. HP for $105.00/1000(unbelievable I know, but I can still get it at that price), I just wanted some different options...any good sources out there right now for Guatemalan?

care to share how you can get 105 for 1000 of wolf?

DRM6000
02-27-2007, 2:48 PM
is this a decent deal?

360 rd. battle pack - $65
720 rd. can - $150

i think they may be radway green. oh, are boxer primed cases reloadable or was it berden?

Whitesmoke
02-27-2007, 2:59 PM
Thats a good deal...I think the Radway green is one of the best deals out there.

I havn't seen it as cheap as those prices in a few months though....can I ask who has it at that price?

draconianruler
02-27-2007, 3:01 PM
I believe its boxer primed that's reloadable.

DRM6000
02-27-2007, 3:06 PM
what about this one:

guatamalan 1560rd. @ $343 any good?

how about some .308 prices

aussie f4 - 160 rd. pack @$30

Vepr62
02-27-2007, 3:18 PM
Yep... Ammobros is the best deal in town, when they can get projectiles. Lately, that's been an issue for them. :(

Anyway, in the local SD area, probably your best bet is the Federal that American Shooting Center seems to have on sale whenever I'm in there. The price isn't too bad on it.

Of course, if you reload, you can make plinking ammo yourself for about 8.7c/rd...

Grammaton76 claims it is doable, so i want to know the recepy. LOL
Vasiliy

WokMaster1
02-27-2007, 3:21 PM
Canyon Sports in Martinez (SF East Bay) has American Eagle & Remington 55 gr for $5.99/20 rds.

xrMike
02-27-2007, 4:56 PM
how about some .308 prices

aussie f4 - 160 rd. pack @$30If that's the Aussie .308 surplus that dried up a long time ago, I seriously doubt that price (or even that it's available, at any price).

DRM6000
02-27-2007, 4:57 PM
If that's the Aussie .308 surplus that dried up a long time ago, I seriously doubt that price (or even that it's available, at any price).

i'll try to order it and see if it goes through.

swift
02-27-2007, 4:59 PM
Grammaton76 claims it is doable, so i want to know the recepy. LOL
Vasiliy

Just running the numbers, it does not seem possible to reload for $0.08/round at current prices. Perhaps a year ago, when bullets were cheaper...

thedrickel
02-27-2007, 5:00 PM
what about this one:

guatamalan 1560rd. @ $343 any good?

how about some .308 prices

aussie f4 - 160 rd. pack @$30

Please PM me with the location of this aussie 308 for 30/160rds. Thanks :D

xrMike
02-27-2007, 5:51 PM
i'll try to order it and see if it goes through.Well, if you're not joking, I'd also appreciate a PM for that source. I would like to buy a few hundred rounds.

Santa Cruz Armory
02-27-2007, 9:40 PM
i'll try to order it and see if it goes through.


Please PM me the details as well.

Whitesmoke
02-28-2007, 2:13 AM
Please PM me the details as well.

me too!!!:D

sargenv
02-28-2007, 7:50 AM
Ok.. I'll chime in with what I have..

I purchased some WC846 ball powder for $10 a pound, 8# total some time back. Let's call it 26 gr per round = $.0371 per cartridge. I picked up 6k of the Pulled and sized 55 gr FMJ's from an online source. They were $93/3k add $9 shipping for a total of $102/3k or .034 per bullet. I use Winchester Small Rifle primers, call it $22 with tax or .022 per primer. so all total $.0371 + $.034 + .022 = $.0931 per loaded cartridge. I get my brass for free so I don't add in that cost, but if you wanted to you can get it for probably a $.05 each, $.1431 each round.

Now when I run out of WC846, I can no longer find it for this cheap and it is currently going for about $100 per 8 pound keg. So my cost will go up but I have an adequate supply of inexpensive projectiles. I've tested the pulled bullets and they are accurate enough for blasting at close range and good enough for 8" targets out to at least 200 yards (out of my heavy barreled Mini-14). I'm just happy I took the plunge on the bullets before they sold out.

Vince

xrMike
02-28-2007, 4:36 PM
Anyone hear from that guy on the wonder-priced .308? :rolleyes:

DRM6000
02-28-2007, 6:16 PM
i checked the website again and it's for ffl holders. i placed an order for the aussie 308 and a 223 battle pack and i hope that the catalog listing is current.

Whitesmoke
02-28-2007, 7:50 PM
i checked the website again and it's for ffl holders. i placed an order for the aussie 308 and a 223 battle pack and i hope that the catalog listing is current.


So why not share the info? is it
http://www.southernohiogun.com/images_2/catalog.pdf

I don't see the F4 in there though....

Gunsrruss
02-28-2007, 7:54 PM
Go to this sight and look under Ammunition. Federal, you will see 1000 .223 for 279/289.00. This is a good price for loaded 62gr ss-109. This stuff is bulk loaded in one big box. They also have some American Eagle further down the scroll. That brass will also be reloadable:)

6172crew
03-01-2007, 3:53 PM
http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=231&osCsid=6c5c7f75cc7e2fcedd2dd1c46de19fc6

here are some reloads.

$249/1000

xrMike
03-03-2007, 2:09 PM
If this guy is still selling Hornady Remanufactured ammo, I would also get this:

http://www.radomski.us/njhp/major.htmDang! Contacted this guy and here's what he said:

"No more ammo, Hornady can no longer get the once fired LC brass. Bummer!
Carl"

Hunter
03-03-2007, 4:47 PM
Cascade has Federal 55gr XM193 for 5.95/box. The sweet deal is that shipping is a flat rate of $7.50.

So 500 rnds is $156.25 delivered and $305/1000 delivered to you.


http://www.cascade-ammo.com/catalog.php?type=product&id=110087

6172crew
03-03-2007, 5:49 PM
Dang! Contacted this guy and here's what he said:

"No more ammo, Hornady can no longer get the once fired LC brass. Bummer!
Carl"

I know the price of metal has gone up buy that doesnt make since, where does all the .mil, and police once fired go?:confused:

I did hear that Federal, LC, Win all tell my guy they wont sell military ammo to us next year. I knew the Dems were going after ammo instead of guns but this sucks.:mad:

SemiAutoSam
03-03-2007, 6:18 PM
Did you happen to purchase any of this ammo ?

SOG states its Indian but they say the head stamp is 70's vintage. Those at falfiles speak of the 70's Indian 308 as ok not to be confused with the later .308. anyone else have thoughts on this ?

After attempting to confirm the price of this ammo it seems to be gone from the SOG PDF.



So why not share the info? is it
http://www.southernohiogun.com/images_2/catalog.pdf

I don't see the F4 in there though....

DRM6000
03-03-2007, 6:22 PM
the other ammo i mentioned earlier is out of stock per sog.

Mr. Beretta
03-04-2007, 9:02 PM
FYI...Cascade is out of the XM193! :(

Turbinator
03-09-2007, 7:54 PM
So, what's the latest on availability of .223? I've checked around a few online places, and most are sold out. Anyone know why we have a shortage? Surely it's not the Iraq thing causing a shortage...! (I'm serious - I am sure we do not use Wolf ammo in Iraq for example)

A friend of mine is looking for some and I'm trying to help. Can't seem to find any surplus available, even Wolf is sold out at most places.

Turby

TonyM
03-09-2007, 8:04 PM
(I'm serious - I am sure we do not use Wolf ammo in Iraq for example)


You're right. But we use Winchester and Federal. That means the retail supply of those brands is low. Then, the masses that would normally not buy Wolf start buying it in quantity as it's the only thing available in quantity.

XM-193 is available online, but it is more expensive than ever. I just received 3,000 rounds via UPS today.

Turbinator
03-09-2007, 8:10 PM
You're right. But we use Winchester and Federal. That means the retail supply of those brands is low. Then, the masses that would normally not buy Wolf start buying it in quantity as it's the only thing available in quantity.

XM-193 is available online, but it is more expensive than ever. I just received 3,000 rounds via UPS today.

Ok - makes a lot of sense, thanks.

"More expensive than ever" - back in the day I think I must have paid $179 for 1000 rounds of PMC, which has always worked well for me. What are you paying for 1000 rounds of your XM193?

Turby

TonyM
03-09-2007, 8:22 PM
1000 was $299.50 + shipping.

ocabj
03-09-2007, 8:27 PM
I know the price of metal has gone up buy that doesnt make since, where does all the .mil, and police once fired go?:confused:

I did hear that Federal, LC, Win all tell my guy they wont sell military ammo to us next year. I knew the Dems were going after ammo instead of guns but this sucks.:mad:

I hear conflicting information about military brass. From what source I was told that the brass that the military sells through the DRMO cannot be used to remanufacture ammunition and must be rendered scrap. If that were true, that means all the once fired LC is coming from law enforcement.

This does make some sense considering the volume of ammo that gets shot at military ranges. If you ever go to a military range like Camp Pendleton, you'll see barrels upon barrels of once fired brass in a storage area that accumulate quickly due to quals and training. With all that brass, you figure there's enough to go around, unless of course it is true and all that brass is being sold to be melted down.

As far as not selling military ammo on the commercial market, technically they don't sell us military ammo now. It's duplicate spec or lot rejects repackage for commercial sale. There isn't true M193 or M855 on the market. I remember ammoman.com was selling actual M855 military packaged ammo. How he got that stuff is a mystery to me.

Even if for some reason XM193, XM855, and even Q3131A is no longer available to the commercial market, there are plenty of other factory offerings out there. You don't *have* to shoot XM193/XM855/Q3131A. You can shoot the M193 Wolf, or Federal American Eagle 55gr, or Black Hills blue box, or Hornady TAP, etc. Or you can reload.

xrMike
03-10-2007, 11:04 AM
You don't *have* to shoot XM193/XM855/Q3131A. You can shoot the M193 Wolf, or Federal American Eagle 55gr, or Black Hills blue box, or Hornady TAP, etc. Or you can reload.If you can find it! Every time I check, Midway and other places are sold out of Black Hills blue box, at least in the heavier weights I want to buy. That's just given me extra incentive to start loading my own.

chiefcrash
03-12-2007, 9:22 AM
I know the price of metal has gone up buy that doesnt make since, where does all the .mil, and police once fired go?:confused:

not sure about the police brass, but i'm guessing most of the military once-fired is going in some field in Iraq....

Jicko
03-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Let's organize a trip to go pick up once-fired brass on the street of Bagdad..... :D

Gunsrruss
03-12-2007, 1:58 PM
Let's organize a trip to go pick up once-fired brass on the street of Bagdad..... :D

We can get in some live fire exersize while were there:) Rick, sometimes I think your a genious:rolleyes: I think it's time to pack;)

shonc99
03-15-2007, 7:33 AM
I took it upon myself last year to ask around about brass from the base ranges. The range officers directed me to the base recycling office. Here in San Diego it is on 32nd St Naval station (for Navy anyway). So, I drove down there one lunch hour to inquire as to how to go about relieving them of the brass or purchasing it as they surely sold it off.

The recycling office almost had a fit as no one had ever asked that before. I explained that I reloaded and wanted to either take or purchase the brass for that purpose. They explained in great painstaiking detail that they HAD TO CRUSH :eek: :( the brass and sell for scrap because what had been happening is certain other foreign government entities would buy the reloadable brass and use to make rounds for themselves.

Now I know as well as anyone that you or I, or any other person from any other place can buy brass from just about any online retailer that happens to sell it. Hell, go to E-bay right now and it's for sale.

But, given the Gov (and mil especially) insecurity towards persons handling ammunition in the first place, it is sad that they think that them not selling the useable brass would keep other's from getting it.

Another reason that they crush the brass was that it made sure that there were no live rounds that had gotten past the range. Supposedly if a live round were to have gotten to the crusher it could theoretically cause a nuclear meltdown which would case every particle in the known universe to simultaneously explode at the speed of light........ Yet any one of age can purchase said rounds and scatter them about causing the same widespread universal destruction.

(And don't even get me started on transporting ammunition in the military. Your head will explode at the mere explanation)

ocabj
03-15-2007, 8:09 AM
Yes, this is what I was told by other sources. From what I understand, any fired brass from military ranges has to be rendered unusable for reloading/remanufacturing new ammunition. So all those lots of brass you see on the Gov't DRMO website are being sold to brass scrap processors.

As far as where Black Hills gets their brass from for their blue box, I'm guessing that they get it from law enforcement ranges.

Yes, it's a shame, but the military is getting quite a bit of money from those smelters and processors anyway. From the prices I've seen the brass lots go for on the DRMO website, the Govt is getting more than anyone here would pay for once fired brass, anyway.

Plus, it's not like that once fired brass isn't going to be reused to make new brass cases. That brass is going to come full circle.

oldrifle
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