View Full Version : First OLL build problem, or not?

02-18-2007, 8:33 PM
Hello to everybody here at calguns, been here for quite awhile now and has been afflicted by the BRD. I just build my first OLL using a CMMG lower with Stag Lower Parts Kit. Everything went so well, but i have one question. Is the safety selector only goes to the safe position when the hammer is cocked? I tried putting it to safety position when the hammer is released but it doesn't engage. Is it really like that or I missed something? Thanks a lot

02-18-2007, 8:43 PM
yup its like that

James R.
02-18-2007, 8:51 PM
Like poop says, it's just like that...lot of guns are that way. First other one that comes to mind for me is the Ruger 10/22, you can't engage the safety unless the hammer is cocked. My BFG-50 is like that as well, figures since it uses an AR style trigger setup...


James R.

02-18-2007, 11:15 PM
My SOCOM 2 is that way, too... and, my Kimber Custom 2.

02-19-2007, 9:27 PM
Any idea why it's like that and is here a way to allow you to move to SAFE regardless of whether you're cocked or not?

I just like seeing it lying in my case with the selector pointed to SAFE.

02-19-2007, 11:39 PM
It was a government SOP since the Garand rifle. The exception is the M1 carbine. It should theortically be a cheap easy dirty way to tell if your rifle is charged or not.
I like mine this way and can't think of a good reason to change it since it involves the alteration of a factory designed safety mechanism. Just IMO.

02-19-2007, 11:45 PM
There is an argument that this reminds you that your weapon is always dangerous. If its not cocked and there is no way for it to fire its not on "safe." If it is on safe it probably has a round live and in the chamber.

I kind of like the logic once I got used to it.


02-19-2007, 11:48 PM
Everytime I pick up my OLL (mag lock) I always check if I can engage the safety, If ever I can engage it to safety I'd be worried.

As what the others said, it's a good way of knowing if it's charged.

02-20-2007, 2:47 AM
If it's not loaded, why does it need to be on safe?

02-20-2007, 6:10 AM
Mini 14 is the same way.

02-20-2007, 7:23 AM
I don't like keeping the hammer cocked so I release it (not dry firing) before putting it away.

Look at it this way,
If you can put it on safe, the hammer is cocked and ready to fire thus you are ready to engage if needed.

02-20-2007, 10:39 AM
Like poop says, it's just like that...

^^ poop ^^ haha he said poop :D

02-20-2007, 12:00 PM
When the rifles are stored in the armory, at least in my unit, they are always cleared and then stored with the selector on "Semi" instead of "Safe".

02-20-2007, 2:35 PM
You need to download the military manual and do the safety check after assembly; BEFORE you go shooting. :rolleyes:


02-20-2007, 4:02 PM
The design is logical. If your gun is not cocked, why it needs safety?

My (trigger) finger is my safety.:D