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madland
11-02-2011, 1:45 AM
CheaperThanDirt.com has a water filtration system for $30 that says it will produce 14gallons per day. Anybody currently have one of these? Thoughts, ideas,etc? I'm starting to work on my earthquake kit for my family and have purification tabs and see that many have the Katadyn set-up but was just wondering what the verdict was on this product. Thanks for the input.

XYZ
11-02-2011, 3:54 AM
I use a Katadyn filter and Steri Pen for filtration/purification.

What's the link to the CTD product?

cineski
11-02-2011, 7:46 AM
In my experience, the Steri Pen does not work. A buddy of mine and I went hiking at San Gorgonio and we both got severely ill after drinking water 'purified' with the Pen. We even double dosed the water with the Steri Pen as we were both a bit nervous with the thought of a new purification system. FWIW, the water was clear as a bell.

11HE9
11-02-2011, 7:46 AM
Another Katadyn fan here (Pro hiker pump & Base camp filters). I use mine while camping & 4-wheeling, they're great!!

I'm curious about the CTD filter too (mostly the specs on it). I'd be careful, these seem to be one of those "you get what you pay for" items :oji:

killathrilla
11-02-2011, 7:52 AM
Boil boil boil...most of those cheap systems suck and are no substitute for straining then boiling

11HE9
11-02-2011, 8:36 AM
Poking around on CTD, I think I found the filter the OP is talking about. I've heard good things about this set up-

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CAMP352-1.html
120841

akjunkie
11-02-2011, 9:49 AM
I bought this last nite via Slickguns.com, was on sale for $48.

Alot of Positive reviews online and the Youtube videos sold me on the product.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BBF2RY/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=slickguns-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000BBF2RY&adid=06Z4VAPH4EZHX3WX8K4K

SVRider
11-02-2011, 10:53 AM
Stupid state!

I ordered a couple of these in the past. Reading the reviews, someone said that CTD won't ship to their state. Getting a bad feeling, I tried to enter city and state and they won't ship these any more to CA!!!!:banghead:

I tell you, this place is way past ridiculous already.....

redrex
11-02-2011, 1:54 PM
Has anyone tried a BioSand filter system. I'm thinking of setting one up at home.

berto
11-02-2011, 3:15 PM
Stupid state!

I ordered a couple of these in the past. Reading the reviews, someone said that CTD won't ship to their state. Getting a bad feeling, I tried to enter city and state and they won't ship these any more to CA!!!!:banghead:

I tell you, this place is way past ridiculous already.....

It's obviously an assault water filter. Look at it. I almost crapped myself in fear.

Fireguy
11-02-2011, 4:56 PM
A poster stated he treated water twice and still got sick Is there anyway to field test water after treatment to see if it is safe?

97F1504RAD
11-02-2011, 5:21 PM
I have a Katadyn on my X-mas list. Have read nothing but great things about them.

Rhythm of Life
11-02-2011, 6:30 PM
Katadyn is great, its what I own.

I've also used MSR filters for about 530miles and also have had great results.

Like the other poster I would not recommend a SteriPen as they seems to have a tendency to fail.

thenodnarb
11-02-2011, 6:43 PM
Stupid state!

I ordered a couple of these in the past. Reading the reviews, someone said that CTD won't ship to their state. Getting a bad feeling, I tried to enter city and state and they won't ship these any more to CA!!!!:banghead:

I tell you, this place is way past ridiculous already.....
buy them from here: http://shop.monolithic.com/products/just-water-ceramic-drip-filter
I bought my filters from this place.^^

11HE9
11-02-2011, 7:45 PM
A poster stated he treated water twice and still got sick Is there anyway to field test water after treatment to see if it is safe?

No field tests that I know of...

My water sources in the field have always been mountain streams or lakes. If all I had available was a small pond or questionable creek, I'd filter and boil to be safe.

Chlorine bleach (unscented) could be another option to make questionable water "safe"-



http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cphl/practice/water.htm

From link....


BLEACH DISINFECTION

Treating water with bleach is very effective at killing germs and it doesn't taste funny to most of us because this is basically what most city water supplies do. You need to have a bottle of plain liquid chlorine bleach and a dropper. The bleach should be 5 to 6 percent sodium hypochlorite with no preservatives and no additional ingredients. Do not use scented bleaches, color safe bleaches, powdered bleaches, or bleaches with added cleaners. You want the good old fashion stuff that smells like chlorine and burns holes in your clothes if you pour it right on them. Even this is hard to choose because it is now available in different concentrations. Ultra Clorox is a 6% solution instead of 5.25% but it is the same stuff. Keep a bottle of plain 5.25% or 6% chlorine bleach with no additives in the laundry room to use for water purification. Besides, this cleans sweat socks as well as any of the others.

To treat water with chlorine bleach, put the water in a clean container and add 16 drops of bleach for every gallon of water. Stir in the bleach and let the water stand for 30 minutes. If the water does not have a little smell of bleach, repeat the dosage of 16 drops per gallon and let it sit for another 15 minutes. If it smells of bleach now it is OK to drink. If it doesn't smell of bleach after two treatments, the water is too dirty to use. Throw it away and treat a new batch of water.

AMOUNTS OF BLEACH FOR ORDINARY CONTAINERS

1 quart bottle 4 drops of bleach
2 liter soda bottle 10 drops of bleach
1 gallon jug 16 drops of bleach (1/8 tsp)
2 gallon cooler 32 drops of bleach (1/4 tsp)
5 gallon bottle 1 teaspoon of bleach

JaMail
11-02-2011, 7:54 PM
Poking around on CTD, I think I found the filter the OP is talking about. I've heard good things about this set up-

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CAMP352-1.html
120841


CTD Wont ship this to california, you have to buy it from the manufacturer to get it shipped to california... i have 5 of them.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0000/3539/products/drip_flow_filter_photo_42_large_4_medium.jpg?10024 5

http://shop.monolithic.com/products/just-water-ceramic-drip-filter

11HE9
11-02-2011, 8:16 PM
CTD Wont ship this to california, you have to buy it from the manufacturer to get it shipped to california... i have 5 of them.
*Monolithic link saved* :)


Have you run one yet?

I'm curious about the water quality, my sis-in-law had a filter system that left some "stream aroma", but was still potable. I have not noticed any odor left over from my Katadyns, but they are for more of a field environment... I'd like to find a good (inexpensive) home base unit to have on hand.

Ripon83
11-02-2011, 8:21 PM
http://www.homespunenvironmental.com/product_p/bc-0102.htm

One of these cost me $33 with shipping. Looks like the one linked above. Good for 3,000 to 4,000 gallons just need buckets. Which I have. Still need to treat swell, but filter looks solid.

For BOL I gave the Gravityn by Katadyn. Good for a life time,39k gallons, but only 1 gal. An hour.

Saym14
11-02-2011, 10:36 PM
put your water in plastic PET 1 bottles for 8 hours in the sun and it is purified for drinking. no filters, no tabs, no boiling.

madland
11-03-2011, 4:10 AM
Thanks for the replies..if CTD won't ship here I'll have family in AZ buy it and ship it to me. I'll also take a look at the Katadyn systems and keep a bottle of bleach tucked away for emergencies. Thanks again!!

jchen76@gmail.com
11-03-2011, 7:52 AM
I've used the steri-pen over the past year. Used it to treat tap water in Thailand, 3 backpacking trips in Sequioa NP and Desolation NF. Haven't had any issues. The water for backpacking weren't scummy. One time was flowing stream, other times were standing ponds/lakes. No bowel issues after drinking the treated water.

I carry these tablets too
http://www.aquamira.com/consumer/aquamira-water-purifier-tablets-24-pack

just in case. I've used these tablets as stand alone and they work great. Packaging says to wait 4 hours, but you can drink the water after 1 hour.

JaMail
11-03-2011, 8:53 AM
put your water in plastic PET 1 bottles for 8 hours in the sun and it is purified for drinking. no filters, no tabs, no boiling.


better hope i never have to drink during the winter months or during a rainstorm..


mental note, never live in a forest, damn those tree's for blocking the sun.


sorry for the sarcasm, but the post wasnt on how to "sterlize" water in 8 to 16 ounce batches in 8 hours in bright sunlight, it was on how to filter and specifically referencing a cheaper than dirt model of filtration.

JaMail
11-03-2011, 8:56 AM
Thanks for the replies..if CTD won't ship here I'll have family in AZ buy it and ship it to me. I'll also take a look at the Katadyn systems and keep a bottle of bleach tucked away for emergencies. Thanks again!!

dont waste the shipping, just buy from the manufacturer they have no problems shipping to california..

its a cheaper than dirt thing, i think they have an ambulance chaser as their staff attorny who trys to keep his job safe by banning all kinds of stuff to california just to cry wolf..

In one of my past posts last year, someone even referenced the law in california on why those filters arent allowed, I want to say I remember it was some type of lead regulation here in california.

Saym14
11-03-2011, 12:27 PM
i have bought numerous things from CTD and they always ship here?

akjunkie
11-03-2011, 12:49 PM
Has anyone tried a BioSand filter system. I'm thinking of setting one up at home.

Never heard of the BioSand Filter so i did a Youtube search.

This is Simple and Effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LMWzb7DMS8&feature=related

ExAcHog
11-03-2011, 9:57 PM
You guys looking into the Katadyn...PLEASE also look into the First Need XL.
IMO, it is the best filter made. High flow rate, best filtration, and it also works as a gravity filter. (A gravity filter is the #1 way to filter if you are doing large amounts of water).
That being said, I used a Katadyn for years, they rock.
I AM JUST A TOTAL CONVERT TO THE FIRST NEED!!

Saym14
11-03-2011, 10:46 PM
Never heard of the BioSand Filter so i did a Youtube search.

This is Simple and Effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LMWzb7DMS8&feature=related

yes tried it and it failed.

XYZ
11-03-2011, 11:05 PM
You guys looking into the Katadyn...PLEASE also look into the First Need XL.
IMO, it is the best filter made. High flow rate, best filtration, and it also works as a gravity filter. (A gravity filter is the #1 way to filter if you are doing large amounts of water).
That being said, I used a Katadyn for years, they rock.
I AM JUST A TOTAL CONVERT TO THE FIRST NEED!!

Yup! First Need is a great choice. I'd have this and a Katadyn for earthquake preparedness - two is one and one is none!

I'm also keeping my Steripen :).

cineski
11-04-2011, 6:34 AM
I was sick for a solid week. Freaking sick. How's that for a field test? Get a good pump filter and if you really want extra protection drop a couple of chlorine tablets in. Otherwise it's pray and drink! And don't buy a SteriPen.

A poster stated he treated water twice and still got sick Is there anyway to field test water after treatment to see if it is safe?

akjunkie
11-04-2011, 6:51 PM
yes tried it and it failed.

Can U elaborate?

What failed?

The design itself?

Or your DIY project?

JaMail
11-04-2011, 7:05 PM
i have bought numerous things from CTD and they always ship here?


two examples of why i dont shop with CTD.. EVER

at the bottom of each items page, type in your city and state and click to check if they will ship..

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemDetail.aspx?sku=CAMP-352
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/lgprod/CAMP-352.jpg


http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/72872-1.html
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/lgprod/72872.jpg

11HE9
11-04-2011, 7:32 PM
two examples of why i dont shop with CTD.. EVER

at the bottom of each items page, type in your city and state and click to check if they will ship..

Looks like the city doesn't really matter, but as soon as you plug in "CA" your'e screwed :mad:


121199

121200

121198

JaMail
11-04-2011, 7:37 PM
city's matter in for some items based on local laws.. ammo into the city of LA for example are a no no, yet long beach is ok.

for the two items i posted, they refuse to ship to the entire state of california.. they consider pistol grips to be illegal to ship into california.

11HE9
11-04-2011, 7:53 PM
city's matter in for some items based on local laws.. ammo into the city of LA for example are a no no, yet long beach is ok.

They will ship 1000 rounds of 5.56 to my door, but not a water filter :facepalm:

Saym14
11-05-2011, 9:18 AM
Can U elaborate?

What failed?

The design itself?

Or your DIY project?

built a sand filter. filtered water. tested positive for bacteria after.

YANCHI
11-05-2011, 9:54 AM
http://www.sawyer.com/products.htm#035

I am thinking about pulling the trigger on one of these.

I have read good things about these filters, and they state they will filter a lifetime of water. They are easily back flushed if they get clogged and good to go again!

Packy14
11-05-2011, 10:45 AM
I have the katadyn pocket... very nice durable filter. I got mine for 200$, but I see the price is up to 350$! I did find somewhere that is cheaper (230$), I think I'ma buy another today since I was thinking of getting one for the gf.

cannon
11-05-2011, 1:37 PM
built a sand filter. filtered water. tested positive for bacteria after.

How soon after construction was that?

akjunkie
11-05-2011, 8:10 PM
built a sand filter. filtered water. tested positive for bacteria after.

Think U gotta wait several weeks for the "good bacteria" to ferment.

Still doing my research on the subject.

anthonyca
11-05-2011, 8:23 PM
dont waste the shipping, just buy from the manufacturer they have no problems shipping to california..

its a cheaper than dirt thing, i think they have an ambulance chaser as their staff attorny who trys to keep his job safe by banning all kinds of stuff to california just to cry wolf..

In one of my past posts last year, someone even referenced the law in california on why those filters arent allowed, I want to say I remember it was some type of lead regulation here in california.

It's California law. I'm on my phone and too lazy to look it up. It has to do with the lead free plumbing code law. Freaking ball valves went up like crazy after that.

FrankG
11-05-2011, 10:49 PM
i tried the monolithic filter when i went camping... while it filtered pretty slow....no where near the rate they claim, it did filter river water i treated with a few drops of bleach and tasted just fine..nice fresh water. They do make a pressurized filter too that might be better but it looks like its the same filter with a schrader type valve and screw on lid buckets. (ima make my own buckets for it though)

Frank

Saym14
11-05-2011, 11:02 PM
we used these - they take 48 hours.
tested boiling, tablets, sand filter and solar. solar was the best.


http://testing-kits.com/buy-bacteria-growth-check.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_water_disinfection