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ns3v3n
02-15-2007, 6:57 PM
any suggestion for loading .45 acp fmj 230 gr bullet?

kenc9
02-15-2007, 7:32 PM
You need to start collecting loading data from different places. Here is one place but powder makers have it as well.

http://www.handloads.com

http://www.reloadammo.com/45loads.htm

-ken

ccampbell
02-15-2007, 7:33 PM
I've tried Unique, Blue Dot, American Select and Accurate #2. I liked AA#2 the best. I have heard others liking Vitavori n320 or n340, but it is pricey. AA#2 burns like bullseye, which I've heard is good for 45acp. If you have other pistol calibers, pick a powder you can use in all of them.

Chris

Wulf
02-15-2007, 7:33 PM
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44952

kurac
02-15-2007, 7:37 PM
I have been using W231, it could be a little cleaner but it meters well and fills almost half the case thus reducing the chance of a double charge.

Fjold
02-15-2007, 7:42 PM
I've used Bullseye and W231 for 20 years

ns3v3n
02-15-2007, 7:43 PM
i just got my modern reloading manual 2nd edition and just wondering, i still have to go through it throughly.

dwtt
02-15-2007, 7:50 PM
I use Winchester 231 and it works well for my guns. I shoot 185gr SWC out of a EAA Witness and a Rock Island 1911A1. Both guns are stock and haven't had any powder related problems.

halifax
02-15-2007, 8:06 PM
I just recently started using Trail Boss :eek: But I was looking for a low velocity (~730 fps), low recoil load for IDPA. The stuff looks like cheerios and kinda smells like burnt wet cheerios when ignited, but it fills the case completely and meters just fine. 4.6 gr, 230 gr Rainier RN.

Have also used Power Pistol and AA#2.

ns3v3n
02-15-2007, 8:14 PM
what about primers? i was reading the manual they mentioned cci and winchester, are those good?

Fjold
02-15-2007, 8:28 PM
what about primers? i was reading the manual they mentioned cci and winchester, are those good?


IMHO, After 20+ years worth of reloading, in handguns used at less than 100 yards, there's no significant difference in primer performance. A tiny difference in primer output is not going to affect the performance at all.

NRAhighpowershooter
02-15-2007, 8:33 PM
My load for a 230gr FMJ is 4.0gr 231 and a CCI primer.....

PLINK
02-15-2007, 8:41 PM
I recently got this info from Laser-Cast over the phoneand will be trying it out.

Bullet - .45 ACP LRN 230 .452 dia.
Powder - 5.4 grains (714 fps) - 5.9 grains (844 fps) of Hogdon Clays Universal
COL - 1.260
Primer - I am using Winchester WLP

I currently have the same bullet/COL/powder/primer above loaded with 4.8 grains and the recoil is really nice. Wulf is going to chrono it for me to see if I am in still above the 165 Major power factor for USPSA. Everything feeds and fires fine.

***Use this info at your own risk****

ns3v3n
02-16-2007, 11:41 AM
IMHO, After 20+ years worth of reloading, in handguns used at less than 100 yards, there's no significant difference in primer performance. A tiny difference in primer output is not going to affect the performance at all.

that's nice to know, thank you man.

kenc9
02-16-2007, 12:24 PM
I recently got this info from Laser-Cast over the phoneand will be trying it out.

Bullet - .45 ACP LRN 230 .452 dia.
Powder - 5.4 grains (714 fps) - 5.9 grains (844 fps) of Hogdon Clays Universal
COL - 1.260
Primer - I am using Winchester WLP

I currently have the same bullet/COL/powder/primer above loaded with 4.8 grains and the recoil is really nice. Wulf is going to chrono it for me to see if I am in still above the 165 Major power factor for USPSA. Everything feeds and fires fine.

***Use this info at your own risk****

I have been using Laser-Cast lately, I first ordered it from Midway but there was an 800 number on the box so I called it and they will sell direct. It was cheaper than Midway mostly because of the shipping is only $9.00 for 500 of 200 LRN.
I have been useing 4.6 Hogdon 38 with a COL 1.26 and Win. primer.
This load has a soft recoil but works fine with all my 1911's.
I figure that it is easy on the gun, shoots well in rapid shooting...I actually got three bulls in the first three shots but with the hotter loads I had to wait too long for the barrel to come back down to shoot again :cool:

-ken

ocabj
02-16-2007, 12:30 PM
If you're loading 230gr full power loads, just get 231 and be done with it. It's easy to find, fairly inexpensive, and is one of the more popular classic powders for .45ACP.

Personally, I strictly use Clays in .45ACP behind 200gr SWC to make light target loads for me and my father.

Ninja45
02-16-2007, 4:03 PM
I have been using W231 and Winchester (WLP) primers for over 20 years reloading .45 ACP's. My personal favorites:

200 SWC - W231 - 5.3 gr
230 FMJ - W231 -5.5 gr



Ninja45

olegk
02-16-2007, 5:00 PM
W231 (5.0 - 5.2 gr) with Zero Bullets (185 JHP) works great for me.
I like Clays for reduced charge. Shoots very smoooooth. My favorite.
IMR 700 is similar to Clays, but not measures well in autodisk(flake powder).

brando
02-16-2007, 5:24 PM
I've read good things about Titegroup for .45ACP.

Blue
02-16-2007, 8:48 PM
I've been using Winchester WSF. I haven't been able to find 231 locally for a while. Works great.

6mmAI
02-16-2007, 9:59 PM
any suggestion for loading .45 acp fmj 230 gr bullet?


231, if that doesn work try 231. If all else fails try 231

Franksremote
02-16-2007, 10:04 PM
231, if that doesn work try 231. If all else fails try 231

Bullseye :p

aznglocker
02-17-2007, 12:23 AM
I use Win. 231. for .45 ACP. It's been around for a long time and relatively inexpensive compared to Vihta Vuori. Only drawback is it's a little smokey and leaves a lot of residue in the gun.

eckerph
02-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Bullet - .45 ACP LRN 230 .452 dia.
Powder - 5.4 grains (714 fps) - 5.9 grains (844 fps) of Hogdon Clays Universal
COL - 1.260
Primer - I am using Winchester WLP


Iv used this same load for my 1911 and it is very accurate and Hodgon powders burn pretty clean too.

Wulf
02-17-2007, 7:46 AM
I use Win. 231. for .45 ACP. It's been around for a long time and relatively inexpensive compared to Vihta Vuori. Only drawback is it's a little smokey and leaves a lot of residue in the gun.

There's also been reports that its overly temperature sensitive. Basically some guy loads his rounds for USPSA competetion 5 points over power factor, shows up at a major match and draws early morning chrono, pulls his ammo out of the trunk where its been all night and chronos ad 164.

vega
02-17-2007, 11:24 AM
what about primers? i was reading the manual they mentioned cci and winchester, are those good?
Since you are using Lee, don't use Federal. I use Winchester on all my loads but I don't have issue with CCI.

For my 45ACP I use Clays.

TonyM
02-17-2007, 4:49 PM
Another vote for 231 here. I've done some test loads with TiteGroup for .45 as well, but prefer to use TiteGroup for .40, and since I have about 15 pounds of 231 from my last order, I'm going to continue to use it. ;)

ns3v3n
02-17-2007, 5:07 PM
what about accurate arms #2?

PLINK
02-17-2007, 5:42 PM
Iv used this same load for my 1911 and it is very accurate and Hodgon powders burn pretty clean too.

What was the exact powder weight you were using?

aznglocker
02-20-2007, 12:25 AM
There's also been reports that its overly temperature sensitive. Basically some guy loads his rounds for USPSA competetion 5 points over power factor, shows up at a major match and draws early morning chrono, pulls his ammo out of the trunk where its been all night and chronos ad 164.
You are correct that 231 is temperature sensitive. I've noticed that to when chronographing in cold and hot temperatures. For what I use this powder for power factor is not a concern.

GW
02-20-2007, 1:31 AM
Bullseye, Unique from Alliant and Hogdon Clays have given me great results

I highly recommend the Lyman Pistol reloading book They give a lot of loads for different powders

Good luck to you

jrent
02-21-2007, 5:06 PM
I've been using Bullseye and Winchester LPP for over 20 years, good combination. Used to be able to buy 8 lb. kegs but now can only find 1 lb. cans. Usually load 200 gr SWC, occassional 185s or 230s but 200 gr bullet is my favorite.

Franksremote
02-21-2007, 5:49 PM
I've been using Bullseye and Winchester LPP for over 20 years, good combination. Used to be able to buy 8 lb. kegs but now can only find 1 lb. cans. Usually load 200 gr SWC, occassional 185s or 230s but 200 gr bullet is my favorite.

Just bought an 8 pound keg of Bullseye from Powder Valley, I think another member is putting together another GB. Can you give me some load data for 230 FMJ , WLP primers and Bullseye (minor and major pf) to try out?

1911whore
06-05-2007, 1:57 PM
i am looking for a super accurate light bucking load for idpa. I have used VVn320, winsuper field, win 231, titegroup, and greendot. i have titegroup & greendot loads with lasercast 230gr lrn loaded right now

anyone have a pet load they think i should try??

FNC80
06-05-2007, 4:37 PM
I've used Winchester WST, after switching from VV. Low residue and smoke. Ran 5K rounds through a class last year with no problems.

randy
06-06-2007, 3:16 AM
Winchester 231 in .45ACP is a real good choice maybe the best.

For my reloading I looked for a powder that would work in many different cartridges, is available for a good price, easy to find, meters well, and has lots of load data.

If you are looking for the enth degree of the proformance scale then you'll be buying many powders. If economy, convenience, and good shooting ammo is what you are looking for then W231 is pretty tough to beat.

If you are shooting a revolver that has been tuned up to have a short pull light trigger you'll need federal primers, otherwise Winchester primers are a great choice.

Good luck