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Stormfeather
10-27-2011, 1:01 AM
So no kidding, was doing some exploring the other day, and a friend mentioned this underground bunker complex. Me being the guy I am, I said, lets go check it out! So we took a quick 15 minute drive from the house and he showed it to me! I have to say I was instantly impressed! Its in the woods, and its a Buried concrete bunker, 3 entrance points, metal gates covering the entrance, entrance hallways were approx 100 feet long, led to 2 large rooms, air vents in the roof which was about 6.5 feet up. The hallways themselves were only about 5 feet tall, which was a bit of a pain in the *** to negotiate, but once we got to the rooms, it was pretty nice! Im going to take a trip out there this sunday and get some pics of the place! The whole area covered had to have easily been 200 x 200 feet square area buried approximately 3-4 feet down underground! I think I found me my new Nuclear BOL! The air pipes leading to the ground above were actually extremely hard to find they had been camouflaged so well! Has anyone else every wandered onto something like this? Is it a good idea to plan on using this in the future in case SHTF? What do you think folks? And before somebody mentions it, im sure other people know about this as its on a unused area of a military installation thats open to the public. I think the only question is, how many people know about it, and how many people would try to use it in SHTF scenario?

ETA ssince it seems some people cant read, and keep making assumptions to what they are, I will post it here for all to see.

These were built 2 years ago, they are Tornado shelters for soldiers caught out in the field during training maneuvers. Not abandoned, not unfinished, simply tornado/storm shelters large enough to hold 150 or so soldiers in case of inclement weather

radioburning
10-27-2011, 1:09 AM
In a real SHTF situation, I'd imagine it wouldn't remain a secret for very long. You'd avoid the nuclear blast only to get crushed by the 2000 people trying to cram their way in. Surprised it's not a hangout for the homeless.

Santa Cruz Armory
10-27-2011, 1:21 AM
Sounds like a cool stabbin' cabin. :D

Syst3m Ov3rrid3
10-27-2011, 1:46 AM
:useless: :D

REPR
10-27-2011, 2:07 AM
Sounds interesting, but would imagine quite a few people know of the location for shtf.

mag360
10-27-2011, 4:19 AM
stbnwgn lol

Lone_Gunman
10-27-2011, 8:35 AM
Any chance of buying the property?

wash
10-27-2011, 10:02 AM
I don't think it is wise to have a bugout location anywhere near a place with military presense.

In a full blown nuclear war, it will be targeted or close enough to a target that it will be bad.

A place in the middle of nowhere might seem like the obvious choice but I think it's better to just settle for a place where no one will look.

Stormfeather
10-27-2011, 10:10 AM
In a real SHTF situation, I'd imagine it wouldn't remain a secret for very long. You'd avoid the nuclear blast only to get crushed by the 2000 people trying to cram their way in. Surprised it's not a hangout for the homeless.

I thought the same thing as well, but we dont have a homeless problem here where I am based at. Its kind of crazy knowing I havent seen a homeless person in over 2 years!

Oh, after doing some checking around, I found out it was a tornado shelter put in place for soldiers training in the field who might possibly get caught in a tornado while in the field training. And that there is approx 5 of them located thru-out the training areas.

There is no chance of buying the property though, since it is a military installation.

itisagoodname
10-27-2011, 10:14 AM
I had found one here in the Bay Area (Pacifica) where we used to hike up in the hills and play paintball. Ended up doing a report on it and it turns out it was a Japanese internment camp during WWII.

SCZ
10-27-2011, 10:23 AM
I don't think it is wise to have a bugout location anywhere near a place with military presense.

In a full blown nuclear war, it will be targeted or close enough to a target that it will be bad.

A place in the middle of nowhere might seem like the obvious choice but I think it's better to just settle for a place where no one will look.

Ya we don't have to worry about any of that here in Santa Cruz, we have signs on the city limits that say we're a nuclear free zone. Those do a great job of protecting us from nukes.

:banghead:

Rhythm of Life
10-27-2011, 10:45 AM
Ya we don't have to worry about any of that here in Santa Cruz, we have signs on the city limits that say we're a nuclear free zone. Those do a great job of protecting us from nukes.

:banghead:

You know it means anything nuclear is banned in that area right? So no nuclear power plants, no transport of materials, no business with companies that work in those areas.... etc.

Its not a "Don't aim here" type deal.

Stormfeather
10-27-2011, 11:09 AM
I already know the location, its on a US military installation!

Maddog5150
10-27-2011, 12:32 PM
Cool! I heard about a bunker complex near Blythe thats called "Slab City" So many criminals, druggies and vagrants there that even the cops dont go there. I hear its like whole families too with kids just kicking it there. Sucks because I want to go check it out.

Bad Kitty
10-27-2011, 1:05 PM
It puts the lotion on its skin, or it gets the hose...

xrMike
10-27-2011, 2:40 PM
^ Heheheh

NytWolf
10-27-2011, 2:50 PM
Originally Posted by SCZ View Post
Ya we don't have to worry about any of that here in Santa Cruz, we have signs on the city limits that say we're a nuclear free zone. Those do a great job of protecting us from nukes.
You know it means anything nuclear is banned in that area right? So no nuclear power plants, no transport of materials, no business with companies that work in those areas.... etc.

Its not a "Don't aim here" type deal.

So ... ummm yeah. The sarcasm didn't come through, did it?

SCZ
10-27-2011, 4:49 PM
So ... ummm yeah. The sarcasm didn't come through, did it?

Oh... Rythym was serious?

:kest:

Redyourdead
10-27-2011, 5:01 PM
Cant wait to see the pictures.

chris
10-27-2011, 5:16 PM
post pics when you can.

cannon
10-27-2011, 5:23 PM
Cool! I heard about a bunker complex near Blythe thats called "Slab City" So many criminals, druggies and vagrants there that even the cops dont go there. I hear its like whole families too with kids just kicking it there. Sucks because I want to go check it out.

Slab City is not a bunker complex. It's a WWII training airbase near the Salton Sea. After decomissioning they tore down the buildings leaving the cement floors. The slabs.

It is now BLM land and many snowbirds go there for free winter camping along with the mobile homeless and year round refugees that live in their RV's.

Very eclectic and fun place to camp. When we were there in our Airstream we had million plus $ buses and tent campers around us.

Quit being scared and go camp there. It's free.

Maddog5150
10-27-2011, 10:20 PM
Slab City is not a bunker complex. It's a WWII training airbase near the Salton Sea. After decomissioning they tore down the buildings leaving the cement floors. The slabs.

It is now BLM land and many snowbirds go there for free winter camping along with the mobile homeless and year round refugees that live in their RV's.

Very eclectic and fun place to camp. When we were there in our Airstream we had million plus $ buses and tent campers around us.

Quit being scared and go camp there. It's free.

Eh, thats just what I head. Far closer places to camp

Ubermcoupe
10-27-2011, 10:24 PM
No pictures yet? :D - I read "Bunker" and I had to see...

Disgruntled Gunny
10-27-2011, 10:25 PM
Tagged

bob7122
10-27-2011, 10:29 PM
tagged for when the pics are up...

Daesu
10-28-2011, 4:07 PM
anxiously waiting for pics

chris
10-28-2011, 5:27 PM
Slab City is not a bunker complex. It's a WWII training airbase near the Salton Sea. After decomissioning they tore down the buildings leaving the cement floors. The slabs.

It is now BLM land and many snowbirds go there for free winter camping along with the mobile homeless and year round refugees that live in their RV's.

Very eclectic and fun place to camp. When we were there in our Airstream we had million plus $ buses and tent campers around us.

Quit being scared and go camp there. It's free.

i have seen it going down there. it's qutie big. haven't gone there though.

JRent54
10-28-2011, 7:38 PM
Dharma Initiative?

holasrmateo
10-28-2011, 7:54 PM
I thought the same thing as well, but we dont have a homeless problem here where I am based at. Its kind of crazy knowing I havent seen a homeless person in over 2 years!

Oh, after doing some checking around, I found out it was a tornado shelter put in place for soldiers training in the field who might possibly get caught in a tornado while in the field training. And that there is approx 5 of them located thru-out the training areas.

There is no chance of buying the property though, since it is a military installation.

Cold snaps probably discourage homelessness. Pics please.

thenodnarb
10-28-2011, 11:57 PM
In a real SHTF situation, I'd imagine it wouldn't remain a secret for very long. You'd avoid the nuclear blast only to get crushed by the 2000 people trying to cram their way in. Surprised it's not a hangout for the homeless.

I don't think anyone is going to survive a blast on account of their shelter. Unlikely that we will have any warning, and you got to be IN your shelter for it to help you. Now fallout, that's a different story.

I laughed at the guy from doomsday preppers who built a blast shelter 60 minutes away from where he lives/works. Now if it was only a fallout shelter, great, but he was specifically reinforcing the hatch to deal with a direct blast. Not only that, but the shelter looked to be in the middle of nowhere. Hardly a target for a direct blast. That guy had more money than sense.

If you want an effective fallout shelter, dig one in your back yard. You'd probably have at least 20-30 minutes if not several hours before fallout hit you(depending on location), and chances are that you're already be home.

But your point stands that in the event of fallout, its a very risky thing to put all your plans on a location that you neither own nor control.

Doheny
10-29-2011, 12:39 AM
I don't think it is wise to have a bugout location anywhere near a place with military presense.

In a full blown nuclear war, it will be targeted or close enough to a target that it will be bad.

He said he only had to make a 15 min drive from his house. I don't a 15 min drive is gonna buy you much when the nukes start falling.

:oji:

Stormfeather
10-29-2011, 1:48 AM
Sorry I didnt get out there today guys to take pics, but you can guarantee I will post pics before the weekends out! Im planning on tomorrow morning, or Sunday morning making the trip out there to do a full exploration! Be patient! Pics will be forthcoming!

And yes, its less than 15 minutes from the house. total distance from my front door to its front door is 7 miles as the crow flies, and 8.2 driving distance.

exklusve
10-29-2011, 8:34 AM
:useless:

:D

tag'd to check out the pics.

Bizcuits
10-29-2011, 6:12 PM
There is no chance of buying the property though, since it is a military installation.

LOL, so once another democrat gets in office after Obama, we just need to save our money and have our bids ready?

Seeker
10-29-2011, 10:20 PM
:useless:
We need pics bro!

bob7122
10-30-2011, 9:46 AM
where are the pics?? waiting anxiously...
idk about you but if you don't hurry, the mob is going to come after you.

DannyInSoCal
10-30-2011, 9:54 AM
Hahahahah - This brings back memories of playing "war" in the "bunkers" at Bong Air Base in Wis with our pellet guns when I was a kid.

And yes - It really was named "Bong".

Ironic considering the activity of choice in my high school years....

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 1:35 PM
Road leading up to the bunker. . . nearest paved road, 5 miles

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_141034.jpg

view of one of the entrance points from the road

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_135840.jpg

Air vents, camouflaged

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140821.jpg

Second Air vents, also camouflaged

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/Bunker2.jpg

Looking at the entrance

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140016.jpg

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 1:35 PM
Entrance #1

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140102.jpg

Looking inside, its 67 paces down this hallway to the "T" intersection, counting on the left foot only.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140121.jpg

"T" intersection looking right

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140209.jpg

Room # 1

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140328.jpg

Overhead Vent in room #1

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140219.jpg

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 1:36 PM
Exit/Entrance #2

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140245.jpg

Outside View, looking in.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140301.jpg

Looking back down the hallway to Entrance #3

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140320.jpg

Entrance #3

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140431.jpg

Another view of #3

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140553.jpg

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 1:36 PM
Walk up view of #3

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140828.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140505.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140515.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140524.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140540.jpg

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 1:36 PM
Darkened Interior shots,

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140708.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140617.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140626.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140633.jpg

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 1:37 PM
So what do ya think folks? Good enough for a SHTF Zombie Nuclear Last Stand location?

chris
10-30-2011, 1:39 PM
ANd here we go. . .

saving the next few posts for pics!

saved for pics!

saved for more pics!

hmmm were waiting.:)

Group 4
10-30-2011, 2:00 PM
Those pics are totally cool. I don't know about last stand on earth, but I could see some very happening parties there.

vintagearms
10-30-2011, 2:07 PM
Nothing in the crates?

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 2:25 PM
Crates were all empty, Ive got tons of these crates already, they were free for the taking after we empty out the ordnance from them, so Ive got tons of bugout supplies loaded up in them!

As far as defensible, the way I look at it, it forces people into 3 fatal funnels, perfect for defense. If they dont know about all 3 entrances, then it offers the ability to counterattack as well!

Cokebottle
10-30-2011, 2:30 PM
I don't think it is wise to have a bugout location anywhere near a place with military presense.

In a full blown nuclear war, it will be targeted or close enough to a target that it will be bad.

A place in the middle of nowhere might seem like the obvious choice but I think it's better to just settle for a place where no one will look.
Most of these abandoned bunkers are not, or are no longer, near any military installation.

Look up some of the information on the old Nike locations around Los Angeles. One is near the National Guard armory in Whittier Narrows, and one is near Pt Fermin... but another is on one of the hills overlooking Brea and La Habra in the middle of oil company property.

1lostinspace
10-30-2011, 2:36 PM
Holly s*&^T!!!

Cokebottle
10-30-2011, 2:40 PM
Cool! I heard about a bunker complex near Blythe thats called "Slab City" So many criminals, druggies and vagrants there that even the cops dont go there. I hear its like whole families too with kids just kicking it there. Sucks because I want to go check it out.
Not really "close" to Blythe, it's down off of 111 not far from Niland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab_City
It's about 60 miles south of Indio on Hwy 111
Blythe is about 100 miles east of Indio on I-10

Not a bunker complex... foundations from abandoned WWII Marine barracks.

Cokebottle
10-30-2011, 2:50 PM
Awesome pics!

Have you drawn a map of the complex yet, or is that it... just a hallway with an intersection?

The 3 doors are a blessing and a curse. You would need quite the team to keep it secure, OTOH, you won't get trapped if you need to bug out of your bug out shelter.

bombadillo
10-30-2011, 3:04 PM
I like it but you would either have to barricade off 2 exits very well so nobody could enter, but obviously there are air vents so it would be pretty easy for somebody to smoke you out/chemical treatments to get you out of there. Some kind of chem bomb would be really bad in a place like that. Defensible yes, but I would want smaller and less known than that.

SteveMartin
10-30-2011, 4:29 PM
You know it means anything nuclear is banned in that area right? So no nuclear power plants, no transport of materials, no business with companies that work in those areas.... etc.

Its not a "Don't aim here" type deal.

So, no smoke detectors either? ;)

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 5:18 PM
Awesome pics!

Have you drawn a map of the complex yet, or is that it... just a hallway with an intersection?

The 3 doors are a blessing and a curse. You would need quite the team to keep it secure, OTOH, you won't get trapped if you need to bug out of your bug out shelter.

There are some other parts to it, but i think those are better left not talked about. Cant give away all the secrets now can I? :thumbsup:

Stormfeather
10-30-2011, 5:22 PM
I like it but you would either have to barricade off 2 exits very well so nobody could enter, but obviously there are air vents so it would be pretty easy for somebody to smoke you out/chemical treatments to get you out of there. Some kind of chem bomb would be really bad in a place like that. Defensible yes, but I would want smaller and less known than that.

Well, as I said, the air vents are pretty camouflaged, You literally dont know they are there unless you actually step on them. They arent the typical white pvc or anything like that, lets just say the military went to great lengths to make sure they blend into the environment. As far as barricading off the doors, its a pretty long hallway that they would have to come down even after they made it thru any type of barricade, so it makes for the perfect fatal funnel, rounds fired downrange will pretty much ricochet around til they exit at the end, so makes for a pretty steep gamble to come down those hallways with no cover. That in itself makes it a force multiplier. Especially since those at the end can fire from cover!

Kid Stanislaus
10-30-2011, 5:27 PM
Ya we don't have to worry about any of that here in Santa Cruz, we have signs on the city limits that say we're a nuclear free zone. Those do a great job of protecting us from nukes.:banghead:

Its been my observation that the political leadership in Santa Cruz is very intelligent, progressive, and forward looking!:rolleyes::p

ojisan
10-30-2011, 5:34 PM
Great place for some paint ball wars.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x107/iamtheadamlanch/Paintball.jpg

problemchild
10-30-2011, 7:28 PM
No graffiti? Not well know site. Place some cheap deer cams and see who shows up over the next few months. Hide em good. DO NOT post a map or tell where it is.

trashman
10-30-2011, 7:34 PM
Great place for some paint ball wars.


Ha - you beat me to it..I was about to post the same thing ...

Seriously though, great pics Storm - it might be useful in a SHTF situation the doesn't involve nukes...

--Neill

cannon
10-30-2011, 8:04 PM
So what do ya think folks? Good enough for a SHTF Zombie Nuclear Last Stand location?

Nucs? No. Everything else is good.

Ubermcoupe
10-30-2011, 9:35 PM
The wood around those entrances looks pretty good. :thumbsup:

Def not :nuke: safe, and I prefer something a little more elevated for zombies... :D

bob7122
10-30-2011, 9:37 PM
i'll take! PM sent.lol

so jealous, i wish i found a place like that.

bob7122
10-30-2011, 9:39 PM
No graffiti? Not well know site. Place some cheap deer cams and see who shows up over the next few months. Hide em good. DO NOT post a map or tell where it is.

yep^^^

SCZ
10-30-2011, 9:58 PM
Its been my observation that the political leadership in Santa Cruz is very intelligent, progressive, and forward looking!:rolleyes::p

Ya, they're a special blend of idiot. Having said that, I will give them credit for not being dumb enough to try to implement their own local currency like some other CA cities. But then again, I suppose it's just a matter of time.

---

Back on topic.

I don't know how well it would work as a fortification if SHTF, but that place looks neat. I'll have to get one at some point ;)

223556
10-30-2011, 10:18 PM
Very interesting! Looks like a cool place!

Lone_Gunman
10-30-2011, 10:22 PM
+1 on the not nuke safe. It could be made nuke safe though. Cover those open air vents in the ceiling with plywood and 3+ feet of earth, add nuke safe air vents (http://americanbombshelter.com/ASR-blast-resistant-ventilation-ducts.htm) and cover 2 of the 3 entrances with 3+ feet of dirt/rock/concrete and you just might have an area that would even work for an expedient fallout shelter. Just remember gamma rays only move in a straight line and cannot penetrate more than 3 feet of earth, so if there is an area under 3+ feet and not in a straight line from an opening (around a 90 degree turn, 2 turns is even better)you should be good.

Heck, if no one is around there you could use cinderblocks and concrete and wall up 2 of the 3 entrances now. Double wall of cinderblocks filled with concrete should provide sufficient fallout protection. Secure some plywood to the underside of those ceiling vents, add air vents, and fill those big holes in the ceiling with concrete and then you would have a fallout shelter.

Eat Dirt
10-30-2011, 10:47 PM
Would make a Great movie set for an episode of Walking Dead

And I thought having an old Lockhead test base near me was Cool !!
( Off hwy 79 Between Beaumont and Hemet )

ExAcHog
10-30-2011, 11:15 PM
Maybe spend a little time and $ planting blackberry bushes (THORNS & Food) around the exits and air vents, and dont tell a soul about your new spot. A few apple trees/potato's etc planted around and you are GTG. I would think the first well armed group to get there after the SHTF would own it!

Saym14
10-30-2011, 11:30 PM
I found a secret bunker. lets share it with the internets!

'Ike'
10-30-2011, 11:46 PM
:thumbsup: I frick'n want one!

ireload
10-31-2011, 4:50 AM
StormF what is contained in those wooden boxes that are scattered inside the bunker? Just curious.

Dutch3
10-31-2011, 6:02 AM
Judging by the condition of the wood at the entrances, it looks to be of fairly recent construction.

smashycrashy
10-31-2011, 6:28 AM
Im guessing the MP's from Fort Mccoy would check the bunker fairly often. I'd also guess during a SHTF scenario that you probably don't want to be trying to defend a bunker from the Army, who wouldn't be taking kindly to someone occupying said bunker.

It's a very cool place though.

Stormfeather
10-31-2011, 11:46 AM
No graffiti? Not well know site. Place some cheap deer cams and see who shows up over the next few months. Hide em good. DO NOT post a map or tell where it is.

Well, first off, believe it or not, theres not any graffiti anywhere around here. WE dont even have graffiti in the big towns around us.

The wood around those entrances looks pretty good. :thumbsup:
Def not :nuke: safe, and I prefer something a little more elevated for zombies... :D

Actually, I think it would be Nuke safe, theres easily 8 feet if not more of earth overhead.


+1 on the not nuke safe. It could be made nuke safe though. Cover those open air vents in the ceiling with plywood and 3+ feet of earth, add nuke safe air vents (http://americanbombshelter.com/ASR-blast-resistant-ventilation-ducts.htm) and cover 2 of the 3 entrances with 3+ feet of dirt/rock/concrete and you just might have an area that would even work for an expedient fallout shelter. Just remember gamma rays only move in a straight line and cannot penetrate more than 3 feet of earth, so if there is an area under 3+ feet and not in a straight line from an opening (around a 90 degree turn, 2 turns is even better)you should be good.

Heck, if no one is around there you could use cinderblocks and concrete and wall up 2 of the 3 entrances now. Double wall of cinderblocks filled with concrete should provide sufficient fallout protection. Secure some plywood to the underside of those ceiling vents, add air vents, and fill those big holes in the ceiling with concrete and then you would have a fallout shelter.

I take it you didnt actually look at the pics? As I just mentioned, theres easily 8-10 feet of earth above it. The air vents are already the anti-blast types. The only opening besides the air vents is the main round one, and im pretty sure that can be taken care of pretty fast if need be.

I said it was a bunker, not a nuclear fallout shelter. Its primary design is for hiding in during a tornado style event. As for expediency, it is what is it.

Maybe spend a little time and $ planting blackberry bushes (THORNS & Food) around the exits and air vents, and dont tell a soul about your new spot. A few apple trees/potato's etc planted around and you are GTG. I would think the first well armed group to get there after the SHTF would own it!

Its not my place to set it up, its on a military installation. As for knowing about it, pretty much anyone that goes out on the training lanes knows about them and knows the near location of one. There are multiple bunkers all around the training areas that are there for safety spots in case of tornados.

I found a secret bunker. lets share it with the internets!

Heck, for a smart guy like you, I will even post up the coordinates!

44* 05' 00.64 N
90* 42' 07.73 W
StormF what is contained in those wooden boxes that are scattered inside the bunker? Just curious.

Those are empty woody ammo crates. Nothing in them, but they make great storage crates!
Im guessing the MP's from Fort Mccoy would check the bunker fairly often. I'd also guess during a SHTF scenario that you probably don't want to be trying to defend a bunker from the Army, who wouldn't be taking kindly to someone occupying said bunker.
It's a very cool place though.

We dont have MP's here, civilian security man the gates. Its a national guard/reserve base. And I wouldnt worry about defending from the army since Im in the army!

FatCity67
10-31-2011, 11:55 AM
If I were you I would get rid of that first shot showing the ridge line in the background also the second pic from the road. With a little detective work and google earth it would be easy to find that road compromising your spot.

xrMike
10-31-2011, 12:17 PM
If I were you I would get rid of that first shot showing the ridge line in the background also the second pic from the road. With a little detective work and google earth it would be easy to find that road compromising your spot.But it's on an army base. So wouldn't you have to take it away from the whole damn army?!?! :D

Casual_Shooter
10-31-2011, 12:35 PM
Very cool!

h0use
10-31-2011, 12:54 PM
wow neat little place. what was it used for befor it was abondoned? who owns it?

gatesbox
10-31-2011, 1:04 PM
Judging by the condition of the wood at the entrances, it looks to be of fairly recent construction.

This, the wood on the retaining walls looks pretty new at the entrance...concrete looks fairly new as well....this is most def not any abandoned structure, maybe an abandoned unfinished project....

Seems pretty open with the multiple entrances. Almost looks more like a drainage junction....

Lone_Gunman
10-31-2011, 1:07 PM
I take it you didnt actually look at the pics? As I just mentioned, theres easily 8-10 feet of earth above it. The air vents are already the anti-blast types. The only opening besides the air vents is the main round one, and im pretty sure that can be taken care of pretty fast if need be.

I said it was a bunker, not a nuclear fallout shelter. Its primary design is for hiding in during a tornado style event. As for expediency, it is what is it.




Yeah I looked at the pics. I was talking about the big f'ing hole in the roof that you called an air vent and the 3 entrances. Not nuke safe as it stands.

killathrilla
10-31-2011, 1:09 PM
Thats fricken awesome

Eddy's Shooting Sports
10-31-2011, 1:10 PM
Ya, they're a special blend of idiot. Having said that, I will give them credit for not being dumb enough to try to implement their own local currency like some other CA cities. But then again, I suppose it's just a matter of time.

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Back on topic.

I don't know how well it would work as a fortification if SHTF, but that place looks neat. I'll have to get one at some point ;)

They DID try.

http://www.goodtimessantacruz.com/component/content/article/1690-cruz-dollars.html

the86d
10-31-2011, 1:10 PM
Awesome! THX for posting it!

SoCal_Sapper
10-31-2011, 1:31 PM
Awesome pics, very cool find!

I'm originally from Salem, MA and that's right near a small town called Nahant. It was an island that could be reached by a bridge from the mainland. Towards the tip of the island is a old coastal defense bunker that is absolutely immense. It has 2 levels and a **** load of rooms and air vents that led to the side of a cliff that plunged down into the water. If it wasn't so well known, that place would make the perfect bug out shelter.

Stormfeather
10-31-2011, 2:09 PM
If I were you I would get rid of that first shot showing the ridge line in the background also the second pic from the road. With a little detective work and google earth it would be easy to find that road compromising your spot.

No detective work needed, check the post above yours, I even listed the google earth coordinates!

44* 05' 00.64 N
90* 42' 07.73 W

Stormfeather
10-31-2011, 2:13 PM
This, the wood on the retaining walls looks pretty new at the entrance...concrete looks fairly new as well....this is most def not any abandoned structure, maybe an abandoned unfinished project....

Seems pretty open with the multiple entrances. Almost looks more like a drainage junction....

These were built 2 years ago, they are Tornado shelters for soldiers caught out in the field during training maneuvers. Not abandoned, not unfinished, simply tornado/storm shelters large enough to hold 150 or so soldiers in case of inclement weather

LooseCannon
10-31-2011, 2:15 PM
Be sure you take good hearing protection for everyone with you!

I bet after one rifle shot from inside the bunker you would be almost def for hours.
:walkman:

LC

LooseCannon
10-31-2011, 2:17 PM
They would only need one Ground Burst Simulator, in through the Air vent and everyone would be bleeding from the ears.

LC

Eat Dirt
10-31-2011, 2:18 PM
These were built 2 years ago, they are Tornado shelters for soldiers caught out in the field during training maneuvers. Not abandoned, not unfinished, simply tornado/storm shelters large enough to hold 150 or so soldiers in case of inclement weather

That sounds about right..

Thanks for the update/ Very Cool !!

Stormfeather
10-31-2011, 5:58 PM
They would only need one Ground Burst Simulator, in through the Air vent and everyone would be bleeding from the ears.

LC

Im curious how you would propose putting that ground burst similator thru a curved metal blast vent. Dont you people even read the posts about the place or just make assumptions?

LooseCannon
11-01-2011, 8:38 AM
Im curious how you would propose putting that ground burst similator thru a curved metal blast vent. Dont you people even read the posts about the place or just make assumptions?



I did read the whole thread. This looks like an easy opening to me (if they find it)...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140219.jpg




You did want input on your SHTF plan right?

No need to get defensive, I'm not trashing it, in fact I think it's very good. I'm just suggesting hearing protection for your bug out bag.

LC

bombadillo
11-01-2011, 8:53 AM
Also, its really easy to make a shelter if you have time, shovels, and hands. So long as you brace it up fairly well, a small bunker with a coffee can sized air vent from 2 directions can go a long way. You can hide it well and all you really need it for is temporary concealment and maybe a few weeks worth of hiding out and cooking.

keenkeen
11-01-2011, 10:36 AM
Now it makes sense....:)

These were built 2 years ago, they are Tornado shelters

Yeah...that makes sense. Since we get about 4 tornados a year in CA...

Our tax dollars at work. :)

Stormfeather
11-01-2011, 11:46 AM
I did read the whole thread. This looks like an easy opening to me (if they find it)...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/IMG_20111030_140219.jpg
You did want input on your SHTF plan right?
No need to get defensive, I'm not trashing it, in fact I think it's very good. I'm just suggesting hearing protection for your bug out bag.
LC

Ahh, makes more sense to me now, I thought you was talking about the actual "S" shaped blast vent pipes. Yea, this portal area would be, in my opinion, the only true weakness to the whole setup. I think that with some concrete and a wooden disk form, this area could be fixed to become a non-issue pretty fast.
Not getting defensive, just a misunderstanding on my part! The metal vent pipes are this weird configuration of a "S" with two seperate angles on them, dont think anything could make it thru that unless it was a ball (or grenade) but even then, the time it would take to push it up and thru I think would detonate the grenade anyways! Dont sweat it and thanks for the input!

Stormfeather
11-01-2011, 11:47 AM
Yeah...that makes sense. Since we get about 4 tornados a year in CA...

Our tax dollars at work. :)

Please look at my location, im not in California, Im stationed in Wisconsin

jaq
11-01-2011, 4:25 PM
Please look at my location, im not in California, Im stationed in Wisconsin

Thanks for posting this. I found it to be interesting. Especially since I am an Army vet and I grew up in Oklahoma (aka Tornado Alley)

Mickey D
11-11-2011, 7:02 PM
Wolverines!

Doheny
11-11-2011, 7:10 PM
These were built 2 years ago, they are Tornado shelters for soldiers caught out in the field during training maneuvers. Not abandoned, not unfinished, simply tornado/storm shelters large enough to hold 150 or so soldiers in case of inclement weather

How often/how bad/ do you guys have tornadoes around there?

77bawls
11-11-2011, 8:37 PM
I would like to build a small bunker in my back yard connected maybe through the garage. Is that something they give permits for?

Darklyte27
11-12-2011, 7:10 AM
when the heck was this place built? that wood looks new.

Cokebottle
11-12-2011, 1:37 PM
when the heck was this place built? that wood looks new.
I suspect a lot of what we've been calling "wood" is actually concrete that's taken the grain of the wood used as a pouring form.

Cokebottle
11-12-2011, 1:42 PM
I would like to build a small bunker in my back yard connected maybe through the garage. Is that something they give permits for?
Check your local codes.
If you aren't running utilities and it's not a "living space" you may be in the clear, though generally cities require a permit any time there is a vertical component unless it is pre-fab... example... buy a 12x24 ft commercial gazebo for your hot tub and you don't need a permit. Buy the lumber and build a 4x8 ft shade over your BBQ and you generally will.
My city requires a permit for concrete flatwork that exceeds 100sqft.

To make it easier and not raise any red flags, you aren't a crazy prepper.... you're building a wine cellar ;)

Edit:
Even if your city does not require a permit for a wine cellar, you will absolutely need to call USAS to have underground utilities marked. From the time the USAS notice goes out, utility owners have 48 hours (not including weekends) to mark all underground structures within 2ft of your delineations. The "call" is good for 2 weeks... if the project takes longer, you need to call in a "work continuing" to keep the ticket alive. As long as the ticket is live, you can send a "Request Remarks" ticket any time if you have "lost" a marking... or if you find something that wasn't marked, you can call to have the utilities respond to confirm exactly what it is that you found.
A marking doesn't mean you can't dig there... it just means that you have to hand-dig it to avoid damage. The utilities must be within 2ft of the markings. If you hit and damage something and it is more than 2ft from a marking, the utility is responsible for repair and any damage caused. If the utility is within 2ft and you damage it, you pay for the repair... even if you were hand-digging and, for instance, broke into a PVC communications conduit.

Generally, the only thing in your back yard is likely to be gas, water, sewer, and perhaps electrical if you aren't overhead.
AT&T, MCI, Level-3, MFM, etc... are normally not found in residential areas or on private property.
Gas, water, and sewer are normally run down the middle of the street and you'll have a lateral that runs from there to your house... so the back yard is typically clear, but it depends on when and where it was built.
It's possible that the utilities run down an alley behind your property (or what WAS an alley 75 years ago!), and it's even possible that a tract of homes was configured with main lines on every 3rd or 4th street with the home behind yours being fed from the same lateral that feeds yours.
Most common for the back yard is electrical, as it used to be common for the overhead lines to be run along the property lines down the middle of a block rather than on the street, and in the early 70s, they started going to underground feeds to homes from the existing poles rather than hanging the wires across the yard. That should be noted as an easement in the paperwork when you closed escrow.

kel-tec-innovations
11-12-2011, 4:04 PM
My friend found a bunker in San Bernardino near the airport. It was in the middle of the orange grove with a big heavy steel door. They went inside and it was as big as a aircraft hanger. This was all underground. It was empty stripped clean. The second time they went back there, there was people in military uniform and military vehicles and they were spotted and chased down by black suburbans. My friends went back the third time and concrete was poured over the entire entrance. Its located around Tippecanoe. Wish they took pictures.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/rionhosaki/map.jpg

Cokebottle
11-12-2011, 4:52 PM
Think that might have something to do with the fact that San Bernardino International Airport was Norton Air Force Base from 1942 to 1994?

steve91104
11-12-2011, 8:19 PM
Nice man cave :D

cavemanlrrp
11-12-2011, 9:45 PM
Good find.

It belongs to the Army sounds like. If the army went away,for what ever reason...? ether way it's good to know whats around.

If I lived in that neck of the woods I'd like to know were all the "Army tornado shelters" were. Always good to know your ground. ;)

Doesn't sound like a place a guy could prep up in advance. But could be interesting to have a bit of a cache near by maybe... if a guy thought that may be useful someday.
Hows the hunting around there?

Anyway, have fun.

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cavemane

77bawls
11-13-2011, 4:06 AM
Who's got pictures of the overhead painting made to disguise military bases to look like residential neighborhoods?

Chaos47
11-13-2011, 5:04 AM
Who's got pictures of the overhead painting made to disguise military bases to look like residential neighborhoods?

http://www.sonnyradio.com/airfactory.htm

Stormfeather
11-13-2011, 9:11 AM
Good find.

It belongs to the Army sounds like. If the army went away,for what ever reason...? ether way it's good to know whats around.

If I lived in that neck of the woods I'd like to know were all the "Army tornado shelters" were. Always good to know your ground. ;)
Doesn't sound like a place a guy could prep up in advance. But could be interesting to have a bit of a cache near by maybe... if a guy thought that may be useful someday.
Hows the hunting around there?
Anyway, have fun.
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cavemane

True, I have since located all the other shelters in the area, and programmed into the gps and marked on my strip maps. I agree, it pays to know the area!

Hunting is excellent! Ive gotten 2 deer already this year and havent even bought my deer tags yet! Jeep, the best projectile for killing deer! At this rate, I will have my freezer stocked before rifle season! Weve got it all around here, Deer, Bear, Turkey, Ducks, Geese, Bobcat, Wolf, Coyote, . . . all edible!

cavemanlrrp
11-13-2011, 9:44 AM
True, I have since located all the other shelters in the area, and programmed into the gps and marked on my strip maps. I agree, it pays to know the area!

Hunting is excellent! Ive gotten 2 deer already this year and havent even bought my deer tags yet! Jeep, the best projectile for killing deer! At this rate, I will have my freezer stocked before rifle season! Weve got it all around here, Deer, Bear, Turkey, Ducks, Geese, Bobcat, Wolf, Coyote, . . . all edible!

With multiple below ground shelters and fresh food on the hoof in the aria, I'd say the possible scenarios are many.

Are can's legal there? I quiet means of hunting or snares may be in order too.

Escape and evade, remain undetected, etc. Your AO has has allot going for it.

Sounds like you may want to put a cow catcher on the Jeep. :D You didn't mention Elk or Moose, they can end up in the front seat with you, not good. :eek:

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caveman

smle-man
11-13-2011, 11:48 AM
I spent a year at Ft. McCoy one summer back in 1986....

Stormfeather
11-13-2011, 4:50 PM
With multiple below ground shelters and fresh food on the hoof in the aria, I'd say the possible scenarios are many.

Are can's legal there? I quiet means of hunting or snares may be in order too.

Escape and evade, remain undetected, etc. Your AO has has allot going for it.

Sounds like you may want to put a cow catcher on the Jeep. :D You didn't mention Elk or Moose, they can end up in the front seat with you, not good. :eek:

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caveman

Yes, there are plenty of possibilities as far as food goes. Theres tons of wildlife areas open to the public for public hunting. Most folks already have a sweet spot to go to, so it leaves the public areas open to the new folks in the area, and theres plenty of it to go around!
yea, I probably should put a cow catcher on the jeep, but Ive found the stinger off road bumper works just fine If I can catch them on the front half of the body! Both deer I caught like that and it snapped their neck like a twig and didnt hurt a single bit of meat on the body! Cant ask for anything better than that! As long as they dont land in the front seat I think I will be okay! :thumbsup:

Oh yea, Cans are legal here, as are F/A, SBS, SBR, DD's, and pretty much anything as far as guns go!

cavemanlrrp
11-13-2011, 5:50 PM
Oh yea, Cans are legal here, as are F/A, SBS, SBR, DD's, and pretty much anything as far as guns go!

The sweet taste of freedom. :oji:

Now I'm really jealous. :(

If I lived there I'd be broker though. :43:

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caveman