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FiveSeven
10-19-2011, 8:08 PM
Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude ergonomics and lack of versatility. I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle. Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.
With that stated, there's many ways one can improve on AK just like with any other rifle that you prefer. AK's just so happen to be my preference.
Yes, all these mods make rifle easier to shoot/handle. In my particular experience they make the rifle more accurate as well and I believe its combinations of things.


Converted Saiga (newer series with 24mm FSB).
Cheek weld with this scope + Magpul CTR stock is outstanding, well balanced and very easy to place on target, a world of a difference when compared to traditional AK.
Those Hand guards dissipate heat much better than any wood or polymer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1v5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefgh-1.jpg

IOR 4x24 (tac scope) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image3cr.jpg~original)

Russian 24mm compensator (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefg.jpg) has internal baffle, reduces recoil a bit but sound very unusual/weird, not like any AK muzzle break I've shot with. Only drawback is that its not chromed lined as some of the other Russian muzzle devices. Needs to be removed for proper cleaning but that's not a big deal anyway. I use fine steel wool and it works well.

Surefire G2 (200lm LED). (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefghi.jpg)

Stamatos
10-19-2011, 10:23 PM
Awesome build. Unique and best of all, it is what YOU want!
I'd do something similar if I had an AK.

norcal77
10-19-2011, 11:18 PM
Interesting piece, I'd like it better in all flat black.

mrlonewolf
10-19-2011, 11:38 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/cruzie27/AK%20family/posters/comrade.jpg

:p

Ryan in SD
10-19-2011, 11:47 PM
Where did you get that brake from?

baz152
10-20-2011, 12:38 AM
I like it. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it with that scope? What stock tube is that? Finally, how do you like your light mount?

H2O MAN
10-20-2011, 6:12 AM
Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude egronomics and lack of versatility.
I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle.
Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.

+1

http://www.athenswater.com/images/H2OsAKM.JPG

FiveSeven
10-20-2011, 7:29 AM
^
Nice. $ well spent.


I like it. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it with that scope? What stock tube is that? Finally, how do you like your light mount?
Did not measure groups on paper but was able to shoot gallon milk jugs constantly at 180yd away (LRF) with out any problem. Have not shot any further, next time out will.
Tube is Aluminum from CSS, Flashlight & mount is good, It's slimmer in profile then some other ones out there. I had to fabricate the mount as in stock form it won't work on Midwest Ind rail in the up position.

Interesting piece, I'd like it better in all flat black.
Own others, few similar in black.

Awesome build. Unique and best of all, it is what YOU want!
I'd do something similar if I had an AK.
Thanks, definitely, if you ever get one it's so worth it.

Where did you get that brake from?
http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/guns_accessories.htm

@mrlonewolf
Yes, he designed the rifle in the 40's and it was fine back then. We don't live in those times so why would people be locked with that ideology mindset in modern times?
To each it's own I guess, I'm not here to explain why technology/innovation is a good thing.
Anyway, M. Kalashnikov never really was in charge of what he wanted in a rifle either. What Soviet/Russian higher command wanted then it was done. Even currently Russians try to upgrade their AK to somehow modern standard, even if they look a bit off.....at least they try to keep up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/2654328-tfb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/k123927_Medvedev-tacticalAK.jpg
Some Russian army units and police also upgrade their AK's over traditional. Yes, some even with American stuff.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/0_670fc_91b90bb8_XL.jpg

chead
10-20-2011, 11:16 AM
Tradition is boring.

http://i.imgur.com/NgGDNl.jpg

That Strikefire is sitting on an ultra-low mount now.

LOLfornia
10-21-2011, 6:20 PM
FiveSeven, your build looks amazing! Is it easy to attach the CTR stock? I have no experience switching them out.

Thanks

Fot
10-21-2011, 6:25 PM
looks nice man..

FiveSeven
10-21-2011, 11:11 PM
FiveSeven, your build looks amazing! Is it easy to attach the CTR stock? I have no experience switching them out.

Thanks

Thanks, Yes it's very easy. Drop in installation. Take old stock out and attach this one it its place.
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-180/Saiga-12-CAA-Collapsible/Detail
^
With this type of tube, you won't be able to mount some if not all side clamping scopes. The permanent sling mount (ear) prevents scope mount in lining up with the mount rails.
You would have to cut off sling mount.

Or you can get polymer tube for half the price. I have it on my other Saiga and it's just as good or even better.
http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-373/Saiga-EMA-M4-Stock/Detail

1911pistola
10-22-2011, 5:59 PM
Nice rifles guys. lets keep this thread going. Here is mine.:cool2:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/1911pistola/PA220037.jpg

FiveSeven
10-23-2011, 1:57 PM
^
Nice.

Another Saiga, been trough several mods, this is the final one for sure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1c44.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1cr.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/667744.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/6655e.jpg

PK-01 V (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1j8.jpg)

Saiga 7.62x39 (3) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image4545.jpg)
.
.

Cuerno_de_Chivo
10-23-2011, 2:37 PM
I'm a wood person and I personally wouldn't put ANY of that stuff on mine but who cares. Each to his own. It's your rifle you can do whatever you want with it. But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

FiveSeven
10-23-2011, 2:55 PM
But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

Good Red dot/Scope make it more accurate OR makes it easier to be more accurate. Beats AK's front post anytime.
Red dot and especially scope requires constant/repetitive and proper cheek weld to maintain consistency in accuracy. Traditional stocks do not have any cheek support when it comes to optics unless red dot is low enough, like Ulimak gas tube mount.
Depends on a flash hider/muzzle brake you use. Some improve accuracy slightly and some degrade it horribly.

If a gun is more comfortable to shoot/handle then that in-itself will make it easier to shoot more accurately.

Updated: (more pics on page 9/10)
Saiga 5.45's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns5/akj2_zpsee64aba7.jpg~original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns5/a6_zps4295680f.jpg
Saiga 308
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns5/Image1b_zps119e8f06.jpg

1911pistola
10-23-2011, 5:55 PM
I'm a wood person and I personally wouldn't put ANY of that stuff on mine but who cares. Each to his own. It's your rifle you can do whatever you want with it. But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

I don't Know if rails and red dots, collapsible stocks etc, make it more accurate or not and I really don't care. I just wanted a non traditional AK.
I have several traditional AK'S .I just wanted something different.:43:

Cada Quen Que no?:)

Inquirer
10-23-2011, 7:21 PM
It's not real yet, but here's my blueprint:

CK_32
10-23-2011, 7:47 PM
[SIZE="1"]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1a.jpg



Wow I never thought AK's could be tactical and look good but thats BAD AS*

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2011, 8:19 PM
Nice.. I plan on keeping my 47 au-natural with wood and iron sights.. but this gives some great ideas from my 74.. :)

DavidRSA
10-23-2011, 8:30 PM
Nice rifles guys. lets keep this thread going. Here is mine.:cool2:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/1911pistola/PA220037.jpg

THIS! Is my the best of seen so far. Wow! Are the iron sights still usable over the rail system?

I dont have an AK yet and plan on building one from a flat if I can get into one of the build parties.

What type is this? Can these mods (rail system, stock) be added to any AK, or do I have to stick to a specific brand of parts or country? As you can see I know nada about AK's.

jimmykan
10-23-2011, 8:51 PM
Too many gadgets hanging off that AK.

What's the Soviet equivalent to mall ninja?

Commissary Ninja?

Yeah, too "commissary ninja."

FiveSeven
10-24-2011, 4:14 PM
One of my other rifles, just finished it (didn't get a chance to shoot it yet).
Flash hider is little bit darker in real life then in these slightly processed photos. It's darker brownish in color (anti corrosion finish).

Saiga hand-guard modified/drilled (3 points) to accept short rail, Magpul AFG is very secure, rock solid. ACE SOCOM stock provides very good eye relief for the scope.
Very sturdy stock, have it on my other AK and liked it so much I got one for this rifle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/5565-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/5543-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/555.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1n68-1.jpg

Scope was used on another rifle and it works well.
Since it was made for PSL it sits much lower than regular AK PSO type scope. Which is perfect, irons are still usable with the scope mounted.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/55678-1.jpg

Saiga 7.62x39 (4) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1b66789-1.jpg)
.

Len
10-25-2011, 5:01 PM
My garage converted Saiga .308
-AK74 muzzle brake, this is an original AK74 brake that was bored to 7.62 dimensions
-Texas Weapon Systems top rail and aperture sight.
-Red Star Arms trigger group.
-VLTOR carbine stock adapter.
-Magpul CTR stock.
-US Palm grip.
-Krebs safety.
-Solar Tactical CA. magazine release.
-Custom made billet aluminum picatinny rail for Grip-pod with steel legs.
-Black Duracoat finish
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1419.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1418.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1413.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1417.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1416.jpg

Fern
10-25-2011, 5:11 PM
Very nice pics all. I have one in the works also.

smattenson
10-25-2011, 6:38 PM
Nice gun Len :)

MrPlink
10-25-2011, 7:53 PM
Nice gun Len :)

+1

I dig it.

I actually considered doing something similar to your set up with the rail/grip pod
but then I decided to get back to basics with mine

chead
10-29-2011, 9:48 AM
That .308 is all kinds of yes. I'm glad we finally have a non-historic AK thread :)

technique
10-29-2011, 11:05 AM
My AK-105
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/photo-13.jpg

AK-105/Plain Jane 74/ Non traditional 74
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/Photo1-74.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/Photo1-75.jpg

Whaaaa? :p
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/Photo1-76.jpg

SJgunguy24
10-29-2011, 1:07 PM
My AK-105
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/photo-13.jpg

AK-105/Plain Jane 74/ Non traditional 74
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/Photo1-74.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/Photo1-75.jpg

Whaaaa? :p
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/Photo1-76.jpg

What do those guns seem familiar?

Len
10-29-2011, 1:47 PM
OK, whats the skinny on the muzzle devices?
Those are too cool!

SJgunguy24
10-29-2011, 2:46 PM
OK, whats the skinny on the muzzle devices?
Those are too cool!

Those are BCM Battlecomp's in 24X 1.5 mm thread pattern. Nobody has those except a few people. They don't make them for sale.

technique
10-29-2011, 3:26 PM
I think SJGG meant to say BCE, as in Battle Comp Enterprises.
They are pretty rare. When I got the 2 I own there were only 10 in existence.

I'll have a solid review up on those soon. I plan to hit the local conex
city with my GoPro and a few other cameras sometime next week.

The AK-105 was built by Valkyrie Arms as a pistol and SBR'ed by yours truly.
Probly why it looks so familiar to SJGG, he built it. It's the nicest AK I've ever
had the pleasure of riding hard and putting away wet.

chead
10-29-2011, 5:08 PM
I think SJGG meant to say BCE, as in Battle Comp Enterprises.
They are pretty rare. When I got the 2 I own there were only 10 in existence.

I'll have a solid review up on those soon. I plan to hit the local conex
city with my GoPro and a few other cameras sometime next week.

The AK-105 was built by Valkyrie Arms as a pistol and SBR'ed by yours truly.
Probly why it looks so familiar to SJGG, he built it. It's the nicest AK I've ever
had the pleasure of riding hard and putting away wet.

If you don't mind revealing it, how much was the 105 pistol build?

SJgunguy24
10-29-2011, 10:32 PM
I think SJGG meant to say BCE, as in Battle Comp Enterprises.
They are pretty rare. When I got the 2 I own there were only 10 in existence.

I'll have a solid review up on those soon. I plan to hit the local conex
city with my GoPro and a few other cameras sometime next week.

The AK-105 was built by Valkyrie Arms as a pistol and SBR'ed by yours truly.
Probly why it looks so familiar to SJGG, he built it. It's the nicest AK I've ever
had the pleasure of riding hard and putting away wet.


I built that Tan gun too, I was actually looking for that yesterday.

Revolver Ocelot
10-30-2011, 3:23 AM
My AK-105
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/photo-13.jpg



I thought the 105s had the polymer folding stock?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Revolver0celot/AK-105_Avtomat_Kalashnikova.jpg

SJgunguy24
10-30-2011, 6:40 AM
They do, I didn't have one at the moment, and that had to get shipped out of state before the stock could be installed.

pacifico23
10-30-2011, 9:21 AM
Battle comps on AK's never seen that. Once again technique you fail to disappoint. Here is my recent build


Here is mine. Recently done. Some of you may have seen the thread.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=119143&d=1319086778

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=119144&d=1319086803

FiveSeven
10-30-2011, 10:29 AM
Battle comps on AK's never seen that.

They been out for a while in 14x1, have it on my Draco and I like it better than PWS47.
The reason there not as popular as everything else out there is because the cost is pretty high for some.

ZX-10R
10-31-2011, 6:01 AM
Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude egronomics and lack of versatility. I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle. Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.
With that stated, there's many ways one can improve on AK just like with any other rifle that you prefer. AK's just so happen to be my preference (won't go into it- don't care for vs. debates anymore).
Yes, all these mods make rifle easier to shoot/handle. In my particular experience they make the rifle more accurate as well and I believe its combinations of things.


Converted Saiga (newer series with 24mm FSB).
Cheek weld with this scope + Magpul CTR stock is outstanding, well balanced and very easy to place on target, a world of a difference when compared to traditional AK.
Those Hand guards dissipate heat much better than any wood or polymer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1v5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefgh-1.jpg

IOR 4x24 (tac scope) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image3cr.jpg)

Russian 24mm compensator (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefg.jpg) has internal baffle, reduces recoil a bit but sound very unusual/weird, not like any AK muzzle break I've shot with. Only drawback is that its not chromed lined as some of the other Russian muzzle devices. Needs to be removed for proper cleaning but that's not a big deal anyway. I use fine steel wool and it works well.

Surefire G2 (200lm LED). (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefghi.jpg)


Extremely well done. That thing must be a shooter. I can't believe I missed this thread. Yeah ergos, LOP, and optics make an AK an extremely nice platform.

ZX-10R
10-31-2011, 6:17 AM
Seems in one of the pics with the current President of Russia, they are using the FAB handguards which is Israeli in origin. It is what I have.

Someone asked how does all this make a rifle more accurate?
LOP - Do you really want a shorter stock if you have long arms or want a more comfortable posture when benching, shooting standing, or kneeling? I prefer the ACS stock as it gives me a nice cheek weld and heft to absorb recoil. Weight is not an issue as I have heavier rifles.
Optics/ Optics mount - You really think some of the yahoos here are tagging 200+yrd body shots consistently with steel sights. I can and there is no way I am doing that with steel CONSISTENTLY.
Forward grip - I know a lot of you practice on the bench however, you all should be practicing everything...Standing, kneeling, bench, prone (if allowed), etc. Forward grip helps in the standing, and kneeling, especially if you are doing 5 shot groups and/ or accuracy on follow up shots.
Lights - Surefire is my customer. If you need a light to blind someone or just for home defense use, you want something that withstand the recoil of a 30 cal or larger round. Lights are good for HD if that is what your gun is for.

To each is his own but most guys I see shooting with steel come back with crazy groups. You all don't train to spray and pray I assume? I need mine tighter than that to feel satisfied.

Nice rifles and well done!

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb85/mosepeda2000/IMG_2781.jpg

FiveSeven
01-03-2012, 3:40 PM
Improved this AK.
Before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image4766.jpg) and after (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a123456.jpg).
Much better rifle afterwards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1.jpg

Very slim profile.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a12345.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a123.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/6545555-1.jpg

V

FiveSeven
01-03-2012, 3:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234567891.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a12345678.jpg

could't capture dot properly but it's much better in real life and co-witness is perfect, better then any other side mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a21.jpg

Surefire G2X Tac (200lm )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234567891233.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image2m8.jpg

smog7
01-03-2012, 8:29 PM
^that is awesome looking. which model aimpoint are you using?

FiveSeven
01-03-2012, 9:11 PM
Thanks, Originally it was 9000SC-2X (2moa) but after cutting off 2x attachment it's 9000SC now.

nikonuser
01-04-2012, 6:55 AM
Very nice guys. I found myself having more fun shooting my AK after all my improvements and more accurately too.

69Mach1
01-04-2012, 7:08 AM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/DSC05365.jpg

ZX-10R
01-06-2012, 4:59 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234567891.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a12345678.jpg

could't capture dot properly but it's much better in real life and co-witness is perfect, better then any other side mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a21.jpg

Surefire G2X Tac (200lm )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234567891233.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image2m8.jpg

Very nice.

FiveSeven
01-06-2012, 6:27 PM
Thanks but please don't quote all the pics in the post... It's unneeded.

luckystrike
01-07-2012, 1:05 AM
some tac aks look alright, others look like the gunshow puked on them

RustyMacHine
01-07-2012, 6:31 AM
Improved this AK.

V

You're just plain crazy... :thumbsup:



69Mach1's VEPR


... and you don't play fair. That's a VEPR. Very limited mods you can do with that thing.


Both look great though... Let's wait for Mamluke to see these.


.

Lagduf
01-07-2012, 11:08 AM
Thanks, Originally it was 9000SC-2X (2moa) but after cutting off 2x attachment it's 9000SC now.

What side mount (and rings) are you using? I don't think I've ever seen one that mounted a 30mm tube so low, other than the RS Products AK mount.

I have an Aimpoint 9000SC on my Kel-Tec SU16 and seeing that on your gun has me convinced to move it over to my AK-74.

FiveSeven
01-07-2012, 12:05 PM
^

The mount is PK-01V.
It's sold with only one offset ring, I had one already that came with Russian red dot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1j8.jpg)... Purchased another one (just the mount with a ring), moved Russian red dot to RS Product mount and used leftover ring for Aimpoint.

Here's the leftover mount without the ring.
Unlike some of the other side mount...... This is a heavier all steel construction.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image2tr55.jpg

nikonuser
01-07-2012, 12:19 PM
Lifted this from arfcom.
Not sure if its Photoshopped or not but I see American accesories here. The first pic looked suspicious as the op is wearing multicam. Real or not I like the look of these AKs.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6654987589_9256b20583_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56296927@N00/6654987589/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6654987417_2f79a275e2_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/56296927@N00/6654987417/)

FiveSeven
01-07-2012, 12:41 PM
^
Very true.. Here's Moscow Police officer with updated AK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/0_6a832_f26ecd66_XXL.jpg

Russian SF/LE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image2k88.jpg

Another example of PK-01V with Aimpoint.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/mount1od6_1.jpg

West9319
01-07-2012, 1:57 PM
My garage converted Saiga .308
-AK74 muzzle brake, this is an original AK74 brake that was bored to 7.62 dimensions
-Texas Weapon Systems top rail and aperture sight.
-Red Star Arms trigger group.
-VLTOR carbine stock adapter.
-Magpul CTR stock.
-US Palm grip.
-Krebs safety.
-Solar Tactical CA. magazine release.
-Custom made billet aluminum picatinny rail for Grip-pod with steel legs.
-Black Duracoat finish
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1419.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1418.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1413.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1417.jpg
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/IMG_1416.jpg

Dude that is one bad ***** saiga.

Lagduf
01-08-2012, 11:47 AM
^

The mount is PK-01V.
It's sold with only one offset ring, I had one already that came with Russian red dot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1j8.jpg)... Purchased another one (just the mount with a ring), moved Russian red dot to RS Product mount and used leftover ring for Aimpoint.

Thanks again. I wonder if I can find another offset ring - I didn't see any on the Kalinka Optics site.

I current have my Aimpoint 9000sc in a single ring mount on my SU-16 and have had no issues with it. I might try the RS Products mount with it anyway.

chead
01-08-2012, 5:58 PM
Surefire G2X Tac (200lm )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234567891233.jpg

What handguards are those?

And to contribute:

http://i.imgur.com/CI91kl.jpg (http://imgur.com/CI91k)

FiveSeven
01-08-2012, 6:23 PM
Looks good.
What handguards are those?

Hogue.

1911ZENSHOOTER
01-08-2012, 7:22 PM
Improved this AK.
Before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image4766.jpg) and after (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a123456.jpg).
Much better rifle afterwards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1234.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a1.jpg

Very slim profile.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a12345.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/9000a123.jpg



V

Which lower hg is that?

FiveSeven
01-08-2012, 8:01 PM
Which lower hg is that?
Hogue.

NorCArl
01-09-2012, 4:48 PM
My newly finished garage build-
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i426/robalark/2012-01-09084851.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i426/robalark/2012-01-09084954.jpg

vintagedude88
01-17-2012, 8:08 PM
FiveSeven - What compensator is that on the muzzle?

Caeser2001
01-18-2012, 3:19 PM
+1

http://www.athenswater.com/images/H2OsAKM.JPG

Exactly as I plan to build mine. How much does she weigh?

FiveSeven
01-19-2012, 3:02 PM
FiveSeven - What compensator is that on the muzzle?

24205 AK47 Compensator
Works pretty good, better then 75% of other ones I've tried and there's quite a few on that list.
Not as good BC but still really good.
I'd say its worth every penny and then some.
Being on a low cost is even better.

anyway.
Saiga fore-end modified. Still working on a few other small things.
Looks really good in person and feels much better then original.
TRL-1S, Magpul AFG, Sling attachment..... Magpul rails drilled/attached to fore-end, secure and just in the place where they're needed.
It looks as it was made this way at the factory. Fit and finish is excellent.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image1k67676.jpg

Jrubbadubbub
01-21-2012, 8:58 PM
http://www.upitall.com/Private/u/369/677/9628

FiveSeven
01-24-2012, 5:23 PM
^
Probably would look better if pic was normal size.
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I know it's known as a pistol but I don't think it really fits in that category. IMO pistol is same as handgun and AK "pistol" is not a handgun.
It's more like a hybrid or a cross between, nonetheless it's still an AK.
My final modification on this Draco.
Using sling in opposite tension mode, it's surprisingly easy to keep the sight consistent on target, I'd say it's nearly the same (or easier/faster) as traditional stock..... but if your not used to or careful you will bump fire it. Practice fixes that problem.
For those who think these are not practical or whatever. I completely disagree and if you haven't fired at multiple targets with similar setup then you're simply flat out wrong.
This is probably the closest thing to PDW (from a traditional PDW standpoint view).
As for the mag lock (yes you zfields), it's like a Ferrari owned by someone who's never drives over the speed limit. It doesn't mean that the car isn't capable or never will..... Time, location & circumstance (yes, in that order).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d5a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/D1.jpg

FiveSeven
01-24-2012, 5:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/dc6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d99.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d1a.jpg

Caeser2001
01-29-2012, 11:23 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/dc6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d99.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/d1a.jpg

Sling loops to protect the laser?

IrishPirate
01-29-2012, 11:31 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1a.jpg

I just threw up a little bit.....not because i'm a wood guy and there's a ton of tacticool happening on that AK....but because i actually REALLY like it!!!

awesome build! IMHO, if you're gonna do something, DO IT RIGHT!!! you did just that. I would love to have that rifle and would probably use it as much, if not more, than any other rifle i have. Great job!!!!

H2O MAN
01-29-2012, 12:55 PM
Exactly as I plan to build mine.
How much does she weigh?

I have made a few and final changes to her... the AFG has been replaced
with with an RFG and the T-1 has been relocated backward a few inches.

Weight with magazine and sling removed: 7 pounds 6.2 ounces

http://www.athenswater.com/images/7.62AKM-1.JPG

http://www.athenswater.com/images/7.62AKM.jpg

Abu Josh
02-12-2012, 9:17 AM
I had Iraqis giving me their hard-earned $ for me to order UTG rails for them so they could hang flashlights and cheap red dot sights. I'm a fan of the classic AK, but when you kick in a door (or hear tham bump in the night) and it's pitch black you'll be happy to have a light on your target.

BTW, that is one nice Saiga!

cortayack
02-12-2012, 10:10 AM
tag..........My next AK is a draco, thanks for the ideal.....

STAGE 2
02-16-2012, 6:15 PM
You really think some of the yahoos here are tagging 200+yrd body shots consistently with steel sights. I can and there is no way I am doing that with steel CONSISTENTLY.

Body shots @ 200 yards with an AK in proper specs (not some farked and twisted homebuild) should be no problem at all.

The problem isn't the sights. The problem is that much like manual transmissions, shooting with iron sights is quickly becoming a lost art. For some reason people think they cant hit anything pas 50 yards unless they have magnification and a red dot.

hemiguy55
02-16-2012, 11:20 PM
man.... i cant wait to get my ak.... time is just creepin by... and all these bad a** pics r makin me want these days to go by even faster!

FiveSeven
02-17-2012, 6:20 AM
Body shots @ 200 yards with an AK in proper specs (not some farked and twisted homebuild) should be no problem at all,

The problem isn't the sights. The problem is that much like manual transmissions, shooting with iron sights is quickly becoming a lost art. For some reason people think they cant hit anything pas 50 yards unless they have magnification and a red dot.

That's not it, your missing the point in all of this.
Personally, I can hit human size target even further with irons BUT with a red dot I can do it faster and fire another follow up shot or two even faster.
There's a very good reason why military issues red dot sight to troops, it's called efficiency. Plus it eliminates tunnel vision at closer ranges that irons present and in combat it can get you killed.

Just like some tools, some can perform the same task better with upgrades.

Zion Lion
02-17-2012, 7:34 AM
Here's mine that I recently finished
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/400322_367648093264197_100000570274849_1399967_156 9532169_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/398736_367648183264188_100000570274849_1399969_103 0283474_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398537_367648013264205_100000570274849_1399966_154 9127185_n.jpg

STAGE 2
02-17-2012, 7:56 AM
That's not it, your missing the point in all of this.

I'm not missing the point at all. I never said red dots and the rest aren't an improvement or a benefit. I said that the statement that you can't hit minute of man @ 200 yards consistently if you have iron sights is false insomuch as its not a rifle issue its a shooter issue.

And I also said many people have either lost or never bothered to acquire the skill of properly learning to shoot with iron sights. Thats also true.

FiveSeven
02-21-2012, 6:11 PM
Converted Saiga. Modified just a bit more from what it was (handguard (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image1kj0.jpg)+ TRL-1S (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image14o8.jpg) and 2 lower connected rails for AFG/sling adapter )
Cut off rear tang and secured adapter from the top (trunnion)and side receiver holes (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image11f55.jpg). The most stable adapter of them all, they're all good but this one is just a bit more.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image21k7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image23h6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image17u9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image1387j.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image20k.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image1c787.jpg

FiveSeven
02-21-2012, 6:15 PM
RS Product AKM mount. Not as good mount as PK-01V one, solid but not as well made.
Russian red dot (1.5moa), similar quality as Aimpoint sight except the battery life for which I'm unsure (but I don't think it would come close).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image12l88.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image3k6553-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image16877.jpg

guitar-nut
03-03-2012, 12:52 PM
Which adapter piece do you guys prefer for mounting an AR stock? I just put a midwest industries rail on my 74, now I'd really like to swap my stock for a magpul CTR or something similar.

Richard Erichsen
03-03-2012, 1:17 PM
Which adapter piece do you guys prefer for mounting an AR stock? I just put a midwest industries rail on my 74, now I'd really like to swap my stock for a magpul CTR or something similar.

The Vltor is the best IMO. The others are mostly plastic and will crack or fall apart if (unlike the rest of the weapon) it were "used vigorously."

http://www.solartactical.com/VLTOR-AK-AR15-STOCK-ADAPTER-RE-47-351.htm

R

FiveSeven
03-03-2012, 2:36 PM
There's only two plastic ones and even they are made very tough. More durable then Kvar or Tapco plastic ones.
All others are metal/aluminum-billet.
For the most part they are all pretty good but I like This one (http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-372/Saiga-AK47-Internal-Stock/Detail) the best (on the previous bottom page) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/Image11f55.jpg). The drawback for some is that rear tang needs to be cut off and it's not something that a lot of people would be willing to do.

Be aware that This one for example (http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-180/Saiga-12-CAA-Collapsible/Detail) will interfere with most side scope mounts. The sling ear will prevent in lining up with the rails. Other then that it's a great adapter, I cut off left ear on mine and just using stock's QD sling mount.

Krebs stock (http://www.krebscustom.com/RawPhotos/9-5-10/StampedReceiverBlock1.jpg) is a VERY good one as well. It be my choice if I had to do another one.

ZX-10R
03-06-2012, 4:51 PM
The Vltor is the best IMO. The others are mostly plastic and will crack or fall apart if (unlike the rest of the weapon) it were "used vigorously."

http://www.solartactical.com/VLTOR-AK-AR15-STOCK-ADAPTER-RE-47-351.htm

R

Agreed. It is stout and well made. I use an MOE on it but am swapping it out for an ACS.

SURVIVOR619
03-10-2012, 3:22 PM
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j362/SURVIVOR619/DSCN0059.jpg

Missing upper handguard b/c the one shipped to me from CSS didn't fit...

Still hella fun to plink away with though!!! :cool2:

Quickdraw Mcgraw
03-21-2012, 10:24 AM
TAG...I'll be BACK, With a pic!!

RaiThioS
03-24-2012, 8:52 PM
http://www.3dstratum.com/raithios/dewey.jpg

osis32
03-27-2012, 6:43 PM
doa

jack111
03-30-2012, 6:59 PM
un-traditional may be lighter and add some extra features but classic AK's will always be my favorite.

sean michael
03-30-2012, 8:02 PM
Wow. You guys have some really nice rifles. Great jobs! Really creative and look mean.

BretByron
03-30-2012, 9:28 PM
Tag!

DudeDoug2000
03-31-2012, 4:26 PM
Ultimak gas tube, Ultimak "long" tri rail, US PALM AK Battle grip, Vltor tube, Magpul MOE stock, Tromix extended charging handle, Real grip pod, Paint by me Krylon tan and black camo paint

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/dudedoug2000/DSCI0279.jpg

FiveSeven
03-31-2012, 6:31 PM
^
Nice.
Just need to get some sort of optic for it. Maybe a red dot.

I installed Leupold x2 pistol scope on my Ultimak, might post some pic later on.
I like it a lot, it's a semi-auto version of a scout rifle in a way....sort of.

chead
03-31-2012, 7:22 PM
Not quite traditional, not totally tactical.. Yep, that means I'm posting in both threads! (Kidding)

http://i.imgur.com/xbX2pl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xbX2p)
http://i.imgur.com/kv8o8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/kv8o8)

DudeDoug2000
03-31-2012, 8:42 PM
^
Nice.
Just need to get some sort of optic for it. Maybe a red dot.

I installed Leupold x2 pistol scope on my Ultimak, might post some pic later on.
I like it a lot, it's a semi-auto version of a scout rifle in a way....sort of.

Yeah probably going with a Primary Arms Micro red dot, Im debating I really like the MI side rail scope mount they say It will be available again In a month It rides really low barely above the top cover and then run a scope but as It sits with a 10/30 mag in It's weight Is 9 lbs. So Im leaning towards the red dot.

antmarc217
04-02-2012, 9:19 AM
A lot of bad *** AKs here! Can't wait to post up my new project!

DudeDoug2000
04-02-2012, 1:04 PM
A lot of bad *** AKs here! Can't wait to post up my new project!

That AK you have in jail will look good all tacticooled out

antmarc217
04-02-2012, 2:05 PM
That AK you have in jail will look good all tacticooled out

Thanks! Definitely agree!
It was supposed to be available today by 11:52am. Apparently my rifle wasn't even shipped there yet. :confused: total bummer. They claim it will be there tomorrow.
Anyways, yeah super stoked with my new AK. I know stock will be replaced. Will hang on to its og quadrail for now. Its almost identical to the utg quadrail, minus an extra inch or two of top rail. Looking to replace it with a midwest industries rail for 1/3 co witness for a red dot. This thread is definitely inspirational.

And to @Fiveseven. Awesome AKs! The one with the ubr is sick! Which stock adapter did you use for that set up?

DudeDoug2000
04-02-2012, 3:35 PM
Thanks! Definitely agree!
It was supposed to be available today by 11:52am. Apparently my rifle wasn't even shipped there yet. :confused: total bummer. They claim it will be there tomorrow.
Anyways, yeah super stoked with my new AK. I know stock will be replaced. Will hang on to its og quadrail for now. Its almost identical to the utg quadrail, minus an extra inch or two of top rail. Looking to replace it with a midwest industries rail for 1/3 co witness for a red dot. This thread is definitely inspirational.

And to @Fiveseven. Awesome AKs! The one with the ubr is sick! Which stock adapter did you use for that set up?

That sucks but at least it's almost ready for ya, I like the front sight gas block combos I had one ordered from krebs but that didn't work out so I did it up as seen, post some pics when you get it!

antmarc217
04-02-2012, 3:58 PM
I had just posted an entry on the M10 762 thread in the forums..
Long story short, I won't get mine tomorrow. Turners is locating another one for me.

And @Fiveseven. Nvm.. I'm guessing u used that stock adapter from carolina shooters. New question is... did u switch out the adjustable tube to fit the round tube for the ubr?

FiveSeven
04-02-2012, 6:13 PM
^
I have two SOCOM stocks in two different set ups if that's what your referring to (non ubr)

On milled AK, I cut off both rear tangs and used ACE adapter + round adapter to tube stock (http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-170/ACE-CAR15-SAIGA-AK47/Detail), after proper alignment and castle nut adjustment I drilled-tapped side of the stock with 6-32 bolt and lock-tite on all the part.
Same goes for Saiga SOCOM stock, rear tang cut off, adapter secured with top trunnion bolt/nut and side receiver holes... and like the other one, I also drilled-tapped stock from both sides this time with 6-32 1/2" bolts. It's not in the photos, I'll post pics of it in more detail.
On milled AK, the stock is adjustable for length.
On Saiga it's a long stock already so I use it fully collapsed, it can still extend but it would be useless for me with extra length.
Both stocks are newer designed and do not have problems like their earlier models where locking channel was no shallow.

antmarc217
04-02-2012, 9:27 PM
Thanks for the info! Greatly appreciated.
And yes, my mistake I meant the socom. Had the UBR in my head because they look similar and it is a stock I am considering... which I know needs a round receiver

FiveSeven
04-18-2012, 3:55 PM
Scout type setup.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/6778ec12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/363b4cf7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/cac41cf8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/0676d05d.jpg

Drilled/taped left-right side of adapter to stock.
With two bolts in it, it's very secure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/a5358699.jpg

Dazzlebert
04-19-2012, 12:22 PM
Here's mine, Just finished last month!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jvAjIlijPkA/T49UeGdUK6I/AAAAAAAAAFA/Bx51IMus3mk/s1108/IMG_20120330_173159.jpg

MrPlink
04-20-2012, 3:14 AM
un-traditional may be lighter and add some extra features but classic AK's will always be my favorite.

they are actually usually heavier, depends on how tacticool'd you go though.

FiveSeven
04-20-2012, 7:17 AM
^

All mine are lighter or about the same without optics.
The biggest difference being is the milled one, WAY lighter/handier in it's modernized form compared to previous wooden one.

But there's a point in where it becomes unpractical or even unnecessarily burdensome without much gain.
Full steel rails (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/12345/85536c1a.jpg), bipods, dual optics, flashlight size lasers, etc etc....
I say there's a fine line (maybe a gray area as well) when it comes to it.


But hey, it's just my opinion and at the end its all about whatever floats your boat even if it's old two by four with nails in it.

Richard Erichsen
04-21-2012, 7:15 PM
I've weighed mine with all the aluminum rails fitted and it's about 9 oz. heavier than the original furniture even with nothing mounted (good rings are heavy). The plastic and wood are often lighter, but it's the configuration that determines how heavy it's going to be. The moment you put a rail on something, there is an assumption that you are going to fit an optic of illumination of some kind. Heavy duty rings add weight, the optic itself will generally add over a lb. unless it's the smallest and lightest of the red-dot sights, some of which aren't really up for hard use and will break the first time you take them out to a 3 day tactical carbine course, or maybe just drop your rifle.

With a skeleton stock and iron sights, most of your weight will be in the front end. You can save many ounces with a combination front sight/gas block. The Venom Tactical is my favorite, others prefer the shorty AK105 and Krinkov types. My thought is if you are going to do it, why go half way? https://www.venomtactical.com/shop/gas-block-p-72.html?eCOMid=7acg8mobg0d653blvkc1qhmsb4

antmarc217
04-28-2012, 8:12 AM
Current set up:
Troy rail covers
Afg2
Vltor stock adapter
Magpul STR
U.S. Palm 10/30 mag
Everything else is stock. Handgaurd will eventually be swapped. After a few hundred more rounds I'll toss some type of optic on it.
Sorry for the crappy cellphone pics

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u309/antmarc217/IMG_20120428_085801.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u309/antmarc217/IMG_20120428_090153.jpg

antmarc217
04-28-2012, 4:45 PM
^ weighs almost 8lbs as is with empty mag

H2O MAN
04-29-2012, 10:44 AM
Norinco T56SHTF AKM photo album (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.445298882153972.124179.425529914130869&type=3)

Mr. Gillious
04-29-2012, 10:46 AM
damn.... this thread is giving my gun d![K a boner

love aks and all these pics

MindBeyondAverage
04-30-2012, 12:36 AM
Just started to exercise my second amendment rite. Heres one of the boys.

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h354/mindbeyondaverage/IMG_1141.jpg

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h354/mindbeyondaverage/IMG_1153.jpg

This is basically what my budget allows. I'll get an Eotech sometime this year.

dbo31
04-30-2012, 7:09 AM
U.S. Palm 10/30 mag


How are these? Worth the coin? Tight fit?

Hopy
04-30-2012, 7:26 AM
Looking for a little advice guys. I have tired of the AR platform and am thinking about jumping into the AK, but do not know very much about them. Can you give me your advice on what a solid AK brand would be? With the AR's, I am used to building my own, but with the AK, since it is a new thing for me, I am looking for a strong base that I can make minor mods to in the beginning. I hear names like Galil, Draco, Siaga, Cugir, HK. Now the HK is the only product I know since I own a couple HK handguns. Here are my thoughts.
1) For price, I would like to keep it around $800.00 (before I make mods).
2) Will be used for fun at the range and close quarters if SHTF
3) My current AR's are all 223/5.56 chambered (not sure if that would lean me towards an AK in 556)
4) I am really not sure if I like the classic AK wood or the sleak all black.
5) Something that at some point will allow the addition of a CTR type stock with Buffer.
6) I am not planning on crawling through mud with it, although I would like it capable of that type of use. Just in case.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

dbo31
04-30-2012, 7:32 AM
REALLY love my Interarms Polish underfolder..thing runs flawless..put on an extended brake so I can fold it..can get one at RRC firearms..great guys.

FiveSeven
04-30-2012, 7:54 AM
Good looking rifles antmarc217 and MindBeyondAverage

Looking for a little advice guys. I have tired of the AR platform and am thinking about jumping into the AK, but do not know very much about them. Can you give me your advice on what a solid AK brand would be? With the AR's, I am used to building my own, but with the AK, since it is a new thing for me, I am looking for a strong base that I can make minor mods to in the beginning. I hear names like Galil, Draco, Siaga, Cugir, HK. Now the HK is the only product I know since I own a couple HK handguns. Here are my thoughts.
1) For price, I would like to keep it around $800.00 (before I make mods).
2) Will be used for fun at the range and close quarters if SHTF
3) My current AR's are all 223/5.56 chambered (not sure if that would lean me towards an AK in 556)
4) I am really not sure if I like the classic AK wood or the sleak all black.
5) Something that at some point will allow the addition of a CTR type stock with Buffer.
6) I am not planning on crawling through mud with it, although I would like it capable of that type of use. Just in case.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Saiga with front end (handguard/muzzle end) already done sells for under $500. The rest of the mods are very easy and not expensive. Just like AR's the possibilities are endless on how you want it.
5.56 are more difficult to find mags for, or should I say quality mags.
5.45 is equal to 5.56 but cheaper and mags are easy to get.

AKSOG
04-30-2012, 7:55 AM
Looking for a little advice guys. I have tired of the AR platform and am thinking about jumping into the AK, but do not know very much about them. Can you give me your advice on what a solid AK brand would be? With the AR's, I am used to building my own, but with the AK, since it is a new thing for me, I am looking for a strong base that I can make minor mods to in the beginning. I hear names like Galil, Draco, Siaga, Cugir, HK. Now the HK is the only product I know since I own a couple HK handguns. Here are my thoughts.
1) For price, I would like to keep it around $800.00 (before I make mods).
2) Will be used for fun at the range and close quarters if SHTF
3) My current AR's are all 223/5.56 chambered (not sure if that would lean me towards an AK in 556)
4) I am really not sure if I like the classic AK wood or the sleak all black.
5) Something that at some point will allow the addition of a CTR type stock with Buffer.
6) I am not planning on crawling through mud with it, although I would like it capable of that type of use. Just in case.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

If you want a .223 platform go with a converted Saiga or a Galil.

antmarc217
04-30-2012, 12:57 PM
How are these? Worth the coin? Tight fit?

Don't remember the exact price but they're around $30.
Nice tight fit. The thing is, my AK came with these metal plates inside the magwell (the area where most AKs have the dimples) which are meant to decrease mag wobble. So I have no wobble with the 3 types of mags I have (u.s. palm, pro mag and tapco), but I had to file/shave part of the tapco mags to make it fit. Although they're polymer, they seem real tough, tougher than the tapcos. I think the circle 10s are great also.
And this is my first AK so I'm not to familiar with the fit on other aks.

@Fiveseven. Thanks! You're still the inspirational one around here!
@mindbeyoundaverage. That's a nice lookin paracord sling, might have to grab me one of those.

dbo31
04-30-2012, 1:00 PM
yea ive got the m10 like you which has the internal dimples and work like a champ. I have some Bulgy steel mags that are a tight fit but heavy. Ill try on of the Us Palms too see the difference a good polymer mag makes if any

Midtown Gunner
05-01-2012, 1:31 AM
FiveSeven,

If you aren't getting paid to take pictures, you ought to be. Your photos are spectacular!

dodger fever
05-03-2012, 12:50 PM
115.jpeg she wants to come and play to

dodger fever
05-03-2012, 12:59 PM
She wants to come out and play with everyone.

hyeg35
05-06-2012, 3:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eAS3Kl.jpg (http://imgur.com/eAS3K)

http://i.imgur.com/eATHMl.jpg (http://imgur.com/eATHM)

http://i.imgur.com/IOTJel.jpg (http://imgur.com/IOTJe)

http://i.imgur.com/cNCd0l.jpg (http://imgur.com/cNCd0)

http://i.imgur.com/kvxWGl.jpg (http://imgur.com/kvxWG)

http://i.imgur.com/zbZKTl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zbZKT)

MindBeyondAverage
05-08-2012, 8:54 AM
http://i.imgur.com/eAS3Kl.jpg (http://imgur.com/eAS3K)


http://i.imgur.com/zbZKTl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zbZKT)

Hey, nice AK. Could you please tell me what side rail and scope mount you are using? I have been looking to put a side rail on my AMD and a scope mount that sits low on the receiver so I can use a magnifier with the red dot.

Richard Erichsen
05-10-2012, 6:32 AM
The side rail looks like a KVAR or Arsenal. It's US made in either case. The NPZ and Kalinka are a lot less costly and almost certainly stronger.

Looks shouldn't be a factor - every component should have a purpose it was chosen for.

R

Richard Erichsen
05-10-2012, 6:46 AM
Current set up:
Troy rail covers
Afg2
Vltor stock adapter
Magpul STR
U.S. Palm 10/30 mag
Everything else is stock. Handgaurd will eventually be swapped. After a few hundred more rounds I'll toss some type of optic on it.
Sorry for the crappy cellphone pics


For a rifle of that length the sight radius is pretty short. I'd suggest a rear sight base upgrade which moves the rear sight to the back of the receiver and equals out to about the same sight radius for your irons you had with a conventional gas block/front sight base.

The Tech Sights AK100S and AK200S are one choice (http://www.tech-sights.com/), the Texas Weapon Systems receiver top cover rail (http://www.texasweaponsystems.com/id1.html) and the Texas Weapon Systems fixed aluminum aperture sight (http://www.texasweaponsystems.com/id7.html), or a low profile weaver/pictinny base rear sight. I like the NECG (http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/ - second from the top).

I ended up with a smaller aperture disc from Williams since the .093" aperture the sight comes with (and even larger .112" that comes with the sight) were just a bit too large for my taste. Williams aperture discs are fully compatible with the NECG sight base.

R

evollep3
05-13-2012, 6:00 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/Evollep3/df7f2353.jpg

timdps
05-14-2012, 11:14 PM
Bullpupped Draco pistol. Need to do a "pretty" shot of it one of these days.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/bullpupwithbrake.jpg

And for the Commissary Ninja in all of us:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco3.jpg

hefedehefe
05-14-2012, 11:37 PM
Tag for latet

TacticalPlinker
05-15-2012, 12:58 AM
And for the Commissary Ninja in all of us:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco3.jpg


That reminds me of this...

http://youtu.be/q362H-xg0ZA

and this...

http://youtu.be/FrAIFP2pfew

MrPlink
05-15-2012, 1:25 AM
Bullpupped Draco pistol. Need to do a "pretty" shot of it one of these days.



oh good, Im not the only one who got the idea to do the predator laser :ninja:

Good looking gun in its more serious configuration though

FiveSeven
05-17-2012, 3:10 PM
Thanks Midtown Gunner but I'm not a pro and I don't believe there's a shortage of photographers (enough to make $).
Thanks to digital age anyone can produce good quality photos, it's just some are to lazy and don't care to put a little bit more time/effort.

Anyway less talking and more pics.
Home/shop built Romy "G" hybrid with Saiga, overall not as nice as factory Saiga and because of that it doesn't deserve nicer-better mods or better (more detail) pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/da18a30c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/0cf67c16.jpg

This is the scope on the rifle.
PU in a specific for the scope mount with custom sunshade. Very nice high quality scope/mount setup.
Much easier to aim trough then PSO-PSOP type scopes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns5/AKj1_zps85b78292.jpg~original

MigNoche
05-18-2012, 1:59 PM
My recent project...


http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w454/mignoche/DSC00849.jpg



...anyone want to trade stock tubes? I am looking for a vltor only.

trew10
05-18-2012, 2:08 PM
its an AK on a AR plat form, why not just get a AR-10 in .308?

tacticalcity
05-18-2012, 2:13 PM
The cup holder is a must have addition to any rifle. ;)

Revolver Ocelot
05-18-2012, 5:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/0cf67c16.jpg



Iam sorry but that sporter stock just looks rediculous. How come you havent gone with a standard Ak stock of some sort?

morthrane
05-18-2012, 5:43 PM
Iam sorry but that sporter stock just looks rediculous. How come you havent gone with a standard Ak stock of some sort?
I'm sorry, but the irony of writing that in the Non-Traditional AK's thread... priceless.

FiveSeven
05-18-2012, 5:45 PM
I agree about the stock being ridicules, it was just an experiment..... nothing more or less.
Although it would be perfect for those who find traditional AK stock to short.

MindBeyondAverage
05-20-2012, 2:52 AM
Got a new light so I took a new pic cause, until I get an Eotech, she's all done. The light is a "Panther" brand and I know its not a great light but its very bright and I can't spend 200 and up on a light. I MIGHT also add an adapter to the back so that I could put an AR style stock on it. Please comment, even with constructive criticism.

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h354/mindbeyondaverage/ak.jpg

FiveSeven
05-20-2012, 6:18 AM
^
Looks good, good photo editing.
As for AK mods. You don't need to spend $200 on a good light. Surefire G2X is a very good light, better then X300 model and can cost around $75 +/-. Streamlight Polytech 130lm is about $40 or so.
Good light mount is important as well, preferably the closer to the barrel the better, slim profile is ideal.
Pressure/remote switches are a gimmick imo and totally unneeded, if anything they can cause malfunction especially in rough use.
Grip-bipod is not something I'd use, usually when a product tries to be multiple things in one it's actually less. No need for bipod on AK anyway, so is the cleaning rod.
Adapter might be a bit challenging for your AK as the folding mechanism is part of the rear trunnion. But if you are going to mount an Eotech then you won't be able to cowitness with irons, so might as well keep your stock the way it is.

If I were you, I'd get quality flashlight & mount, Tapco or Magpul short forward grip and lightweight quality red dot or reflex sight and that's about it.
....And if you are in CA, get a mag lock and 10 or 10/30 round mags.

timdps
05-20-2012, 8:40 AM
The cup holder is a must have addition to any rifle. ;)

Its actually a pistol...so its even more important to have a cup holder on it...:D

TacticalPlinker
05-20-2012, 12:31 PM
its an AK on a AR plat form, why not just get a AR-10 in .308?

Sorry but that doesn't make one damn bit of sense. What rifle are you referring to?

The AR and AK are two entirely different platforms with nearly nothing in common. These guns are all AK's, but with AR or AR styled accessories/furniture. Please don't compare the two.

MindBeyondAverage
05-20-2012, 1:05 PM
^
Looks good, good photo editing.
As for AK mods. You don't need to spend $200 on a good light. Surefire G2X is a very good light, better then X300 model and can cost around $75 +/-. Streamlight Polytech 130lm is about $40 or so.
Good light mount is important as well, preferably the closer to the barrel the better, slim profile is ideal.
Pressure/remote switches are a gimmick imo and totally unneeded, if anything they can cause malfunction especially in rough use.
Grip-bipod is not something I'd use, usually when a product tries to be multiple things in one it's actually less. No need for bipod on AK anyway, so is the cleaning rod.
Adapter might be a bit challenging for your AK as the folding mechanism is part of the rear trunnion. But if you are going to mount an Eotech then you won't be able to cowitness with irons, so might as well keep your stock the way it is.

If I were you, I'd get quality flashlight & mount, Tapco or Magpul short forward grip and lightweight quality red dot or reflex sight and that's about it.
....And if you are in CA, get a mag lock and 10 or 10/30 round mags.

FiveSeven, thanks you for the input. I have learned a lot from your response. I don't know anyone with firearms so I just researched the hell out of every gun I own(which I've only owned for about 3 months), and did what seemed best. I am going to look into getting that light you posted, I had no idea they were that cheap and have never seen those brands that cheap. I used to think the pressure switches were dumb but when the grip came with the slot for it, I thought I'd utilize it. I don't have them on the lights on my shotguns. I didn't think I'd ever use the bipod function but the grip looked soooo comfortable and IS. I only use it to zero the sight and take pictures. Are you saying I should remove the cleaning rod? I only kept it in cause it came that way. The only adapter out, that I know of, is 90 bucks from Krebs custom and I'd rather put that toward the Eotech anyway. I think I'm gonna take your advice accept I'm gonna keep the grip for now cus its sooooo comfy. I might go with the Magpul AFG and switch em out off and on depending on how I feel I wanna shoot it. I don't know what a "mag lock" is though but I am working on getting a lot of mags. Thanks for the input. Please clarify the parts I don't understand like the mag lock, cleaning rod, and whatever els. Would an Eotech 552 be good enough? THanks!!!

FiveSeven
05-20-2012, 4:46 PM
^

Are you in CA? If so then you need to get a mag lock (http://www.solartactical.com/SOLAR-TACTICAL-GEN-2-AK-MAGAZINE-LOCK-124.htm) and use 10 rounds mags only or 10/30 magazines otherwise its a "assault weapon" (http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf).... If your not in CA then don't worry about it and consider yourself fortunate.
Hey, if that grip works for you then it's fine, I think it's might come apart or fail at some time since it has all those parts in it. Murphy's law + it's bulkier and heavier but again whatever works for you. I just state what I think not whats right or wrong.
As to cleaning rod, I don't like them on modified AK's as they don't serve any purpose but just add to extra weight (sometimes even noise). Even people who have them on traditional AK's don't use them to clean the rifles.

Yes, Eotech would be a good sight and in my opinion, traditional grip (the one on your rifle) would be better for that type of sight then Magpul AFG as you don't need low cheeks weld. AFG is better if you use irons or very low profile sight.

hefedehefe
05-20-2012, 11:01 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa44/smoothinoc/DSC00743.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa44/smoothinoc/DSC00745.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa44/smoothinoc/DSC00746.jpg

MindBeyondAverage
05-21-2012, 2:03 AM
^

Are you in CA? If so then you need to get a mag lock (http://www.solartactical.com/SOLAR-TACTICAL-GEN-2-AK-MAGAZINE-LOCK-124.htm) and use 10 rounds mags only or 10/30 magazines otherwise its a "assault weapon" (http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf).... If your not in CA then don't worry about it and consider yourself fortunate.
Hey, if that grip works for you then it's fine, I think it's might come apart or fail at some time since it has all those parts in it. Murphy's law + it's bulkier and heavier but again whatever works for you. I just state what I think not whats right or wrong.
As to cleaning rod, I don't like them on modified AK's as they don't serve any purpose but just add to extra weight (sometimes even noise). Even people who have them on traditional AK's don't use them to clean the rifles.

Yes, Eotech would be a good sight and in my opinion, traditional grip (the one on your rifle) would be better for that type of sight then Magpul AFG as you don't need low cheeks weld. AFG is better if you use irons or very low profile sight.

I live in Texas (thank God). Its actually a well built grip but as a prepper, I know I should get one that can't fall apart, and yes its heavy, for a grip. Thing about the cleaning rod, is it was nice and tight in there until I put the new forend on. After that, it won't rest tightly without me resting it against the weld that keeps the muzzle permanently attached. I don't really understand the connection between the AFG and low cheek weld and low pro sight. I looked at those lights and I can't decide if I like the push button on, sacrificing momentary on(streamlight), or twist to turn on and gain momentary on button(surefire). Either way, I like them both.

Inquirer
05-21-2012, 8:07 PM
Scout type setup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/6778ec12.jpg

Perfect. Like, to the letter. This is pretty much exactly what I want, but I would totally be willing to live without those modifications. Awesome work, man. What's it weigh?

--Inq

FiveSeven
05-21-2012, 9:10 PM
^
Thanks, my scale is out of batteries so I can't tell you accurately but it's not all that much heavier. I can't tell much one from another but it is very easy to handle and/or acquire target, much faster then with iron sights.


I don't really understand the connection between the AFG and low cheek weld and low pro sight.

AFG is designed to be used in a similar way as a traditional hand-guard, meaning, it's better if you get low cheek weld, so low profile sight such as cowitness with irons work well with AFG in my experience.
Traditional forward grips (straight) work better with higher mounted optics, or where low cheek weld is not really needed.

Gruber51
05-27-2012, 2:50 PM
What height check piece riser is best for the ctr buttstock on an ak.

RichWT
05-27-2012, 3:12 PM
151751

My Haley/rifle dynamics copy in .223

Hope saiga conversions count?

FiveSeven
05-27-2012, 3:33 PM
^
Of course it counts. It's an AK just as any other one, strip off sporter stuff and you have the best AK receiver and barrel you can find, even "Haley/rifle dynamics" thinks so.

... and very well done copy. Need to take better pics.


What height check piece riser is best for the ctr buttstock on an ak.

It depends on a scope or a red dot sight.
If you go maximum height it will impede with use of iron sights. 1/4" in most cases will work the best.

chead
05-28-2012, 9:43 AM
Should I spray my underfolder tan/sand with brown accents today? I'm apprehensive..

chead
05-28-2012, 10:31 AM
151751

My Haley/rifle dynamics copy in .223

Hope saiga conversions count?

Did you replace the gas block? How tough was that?

Inquirer
05-28-2012, 10:34 AM
Yeah Rich can we get specs on that?

guitar-nut
05-28-2012, 10:26 PM
Already posted on the 5.45 gallery, but figure it can't hurt to add it to this gallery. Here's my WASR-2:
152040

RichWT
05-29-2012, 11:53 AM
http://i.imgur.com/h8Jiw.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/Ghxs6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tSNfC.jpg
Specs-

- saiga .223
- circle 10 mags permanently modded for 10 rds and filed to fit magwell
- surefire muzzle brake mb556k (i know it is ridiculously priced for a russian rifle, the thing kicks like a 10/22 so its worth it)
- Bolton gas block
- ultimak gas tube (aimpoint micro will allow cowitness with irons)
- polymer imitation triangle folder stock RPB industries. (suprisingly solid for plastic, eventually want a real deal metal pinned triangle folder)
- tapco internals
- us palm grip (shortened with a belt sander and stippled)
- sand blasted and refinished in norrel's

- eotech xps 2-2 (wtt for aim point micro but that is for a different thread)



Bolton Gas block was straightforward. The factory gasblock is just as hard to get off as the front sight. I had ammo bros pin the bolton gasblock when they shortened and permanently attached the surefire brake. It probably didn't need pinning but I had a bad experience with and Adams arms ultra lite gas block and wanted this to leave nothing to chance. I tried to do the brake myself with a threading kit i bought from dinzag that couldnt handle the OD of the barrel, as I guess the OD is always changing. After giving it further thought and reading some horror stories I decided to the let pros do it. Sal at ammo brothers lives and breathes AK's and I don't hesitate to recommend him at all. Be prepared for a bit of a wait though.

The norrels goes on surprisingly easy. I preheated the metal a bit more than a I should have which resulted in a very flat finish. At some point it needs another coat but I ran out of patience.

Any suggestions to replace the aluminum pop rivets would be appreciated. They serve the purpose of keeping dirt put but look tacky.

The inspiration:
http://www.rifledynamics.com/images/home/01-950.jpg

MrPlink
05-29-2012, 9:26 PM
Rich, your rifle is begging to go featureless

RichWT
05-30-2012, 6:55 AM
MrPlink - I know I have been trying to find a pic of a triangle stock with a monsterman before I purchase one. I dont care for the paddles...

MrExel17
05-31-2012, 3:55 PM
Here's my contribution, Cheers!:cheers2:
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/mrexel17/AK1.jpg
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/mrexel17/AK2.jpg
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/mrexel17/AK3.jpg
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/mrexel17/AK4.jpg

SURVIVOR619
05-31-2012, 7:00 PM
^ MrExel, that's freakin nice bro! I like that brake!!


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MrExel17
05-31-2012, 7:12 PM
^ MrExel, that's freakin nice bro! I like that brake!!


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Much appreciated, believe it our not its only 75% complete. Ya the brake is Manticore Nightbrake Gen.2 I'm lovin it too has the same performance Arsenal SLG 21/23 Factory brake just a bit shorter Thanks for the feedback!

joash
05-31-2012, 8:13 PM
Don't know if that was your intention, but you definitely have the Galil look there, especially with the gas tube like that.

MrPlink - I know I have been trying to find a pic of a triangle stock with a monsterman before I purchase one. I dont care for the paddles...

chead
06-03-2012, 12:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/0KPSWl.jpg

joash
06-04-2012, 7:33 PM
Wow, that is non-traditional! It's way more interesting than one with all the AR/Magpul stuff on there.

chead
06-04-2012, 7:37 PM
Just a quick spray, Ultimak tube rail, MI Flash hider and a cheap ($10!) lower hand guard from Ultimak :)

joash
06-05-2012, 5:03 AM
spray paint?

chead
06-05-2012, 6:15 AM
spray paint?

The Krylon camo ultra-flat.

FiveSeven
06-05-2012, 6:31 AM
The Krylon camo ultra-flat.

It's not durable at all. Duracoat or Alumahide is better.

This is my project. Been working on it for a while, just waiting for weather to get better (and days off).
Two tone (coyote-desert tan) Alumahide, will finish with Krylon camo after then with Alumahide clear matte.

about 40% done.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/bf31046e.jpg

chead
06-05-2012, 6:32 AM
Yeah, it's not going to stay forever. I may use Alumahyde at some point, or just strip it back. It was more of a learning experience :)

FiveSeven
06-05-2012, 6:42 AM
Tip for you if you decide to use Alumahide....
One you start spraying, use the can as much as you need to (in less then 30 min) without storing the leftover for another day.
It's very hard paint to work with after the can has been in several weeks unused.
Might as well finish the project with a new can if you have to.
+ get replacement nozzles and green clear out ones.
.
.
.
not quite finished (lower rail guards, sling etc) but done with the paint job. Might take better pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/35ce5a1a.jpg

chead
06-05-2012, 7:10 AM
Thanks! This definitely isn't intended to stay forever, so the next time I spray it'll be for real :)

joash
06-07-2012, 6:50 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4t9xgYmei1qddb3no1_1280.jpgI think I have found the ultimate in non-traditional AKs.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4t9xgYmei1qddb3no2_250.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4t9xgYmei1qddb3no3_1280.jpg

Porter707
06-15-2012, 8:29 PM
Well unfortunately all I have to take pictures with is my iPhone.
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9783/ak471.png
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4534/ak472.png

Cuerno_de_Chivo
06-15-2012, 9:05 PM
Going to go tactical soon on my Arsenal since it is a modern AK anyways. But first i am buying a WASR to keep the classic look. I think i am going to go with those midwest rails and a primary arms red dot. How much weight do those midwest rails add on?

Porter707
06-15-2012, 9:28 PM
@ Cuerno_de_Chivo

The Extended AK47 Handguard (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=442) weighs 12.9oz.

The Regular AK47 Handguard (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=241) weighs 10oz.

I have the extended and the Primary Arms Red dot on my AK as pictured above. I have yet to zero the AK with the Red dot, but the RS AKM Optic Mount (http://www.rsregulate.com/products.php) that comes bundled with the Red dot (should you choose the side mount option) is quite sturdy, once again I have not fired the AK since installing both the Mount and the Optic.

Cuerno_de_Chivo
06-15-2012, 9:34 PM
@ Cuerno_de_Chivo

The Extended AK47 Handguard (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=442) weighs 12.9oz.

The Regular AK47 Handguard (http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=241) weighs 10oz.

I have the extended and the Primary Arms Red dot on my AK as pictured above. I have yet to zero the AK with the Red dot, but the RS AKM Optic Mount (http://www.rsregulate.com/products.php) that comes bundled with the Red dot (should you choose the side mount option) is quite sturdy, once again I have not fired the AK since installing both the Mount and the Optic.


Alright cool, thanks. The Midwest rails seem to be the best other than the Ultimak gas rail but the Midwest offer much more. It's going to hurt taking off my wood though.

MindBeyondAverage
06-16-2012, 11:18 PM
Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude ergonomics and lack of versatility. I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle. Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.
With that stated, there's many ways one can improve on AK just like with any other rifle that you prefer. AK's just so happen to be my preference.
Yes, all these mods make rifle easier to shoot/handle. In my particular experience they make the rifle more accurate as well and I believe its combinations of things.


Converted Saiga (newer series with 24mm FSB).
Cheek weld with this scope + Magpul CTR stock is outstanding, well balanced and very easy to place on target, a world of a difference when compared to traditional AK.
Those Hand guards dissipate heat much better than any wood or polymer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1v5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefgh-1.jpg

IOR 4x24 (tac scope) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image3cr.jpg)

Russian 24mm compensator (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefg.jpg) has internal baffle, reduces recoil a bit but sound very unusual/weird, not like any AK muzzle break I've shot with. Only drawback is that its not chromed lined as some of the other Russian muzzle devices. Needs to be removed for proper cleaning but that's not a big deal anyway. I use fine steel wool and it works well.

Surefire G2 (200lm LED). (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefghi.jpg)

Probably the nicest AK I have ever seen...

Slim///
06-16-2012, 11:26 PM
nice

chead
06-18-2012, 8:53 AM
http://i.imgur.com/D9Gykl.jpg

FiveSeven
06-18-2012, 4:02 PM
^
Nice pistol, just needs some type of optic.

Probably the nicest AK I have ever seen...

Thanks but no need to quote all the pics.

Before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/667744.jpg)
and
After
v

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/c9688da8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/c7821d6d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/b43e7915.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/2bda6921.jpg

Probably slimmest profile light/mount possible.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/8c0a10c2.jpg

chead
06-22-2012, 12:21 PM
Decided to go with a laser, since it's awkward to sight anyway. It's the tiny Laserlyte.

http://i.imgur.com/xHalKl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xHalK)

MindBeyondAverage
06-28-2012, 1:23 AM
^
Nice pistol, just needs some type of optic.



Thanks but no need to quote all the pics.

Before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/667744.jpg)
and
After
v

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/c9688da8.jpg

Probably slimmest profile light/mount possible.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/8c0a10c2.jpg

Man I would just love to send you my AMD with lots of money and have you send it back like one of your master pieces. BTW, I have put a lot of thought into some of your advice and after messing around with my AMD, I realized I will be changing things. I am going to put a burris fast fire 3 on an "Alpha mount", most likely get the magpul afg (because I love the one on my shotgun), and I got ahold of a Girber Expert-M and I think I might put that on as the light. What do you think of these changes?

FiveSeven
06-28-2012, 2:51 AM
Man I would just love to send you my AMD with lots of money and have you send it back like one of your master pieces. BTW, I have put a lot of thought into some of your advice and after messing around with my AMD, I realized I will be changing things. I am going to put a burris fast fire 3 on an "Alpha mount", most likely get the magpul afg (because I love the one on my shotgun), and I got ahold of a Girber Expert-M and I think I might put that on as the light. What do you think of these changes?

Thanks... If you do, post it. I have no experience with that mount but I does look better then MI original version. That flashlight sees to be pretty good as well.
I'd probably try that route as well.
As to cammo.... I'd do urban if I had to do it all over again (black, grays, blue etc).

BradleyAbrams
06-28-2012, 11:01 AM
Here's my updated version:

MAK 90 with MG42 Gripstick retrofit and RPB Triangle Folding Stock ( fixed, non-folding clone )


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/MAK90RPB-1.jpg



-

chead
06-28-2012, 9:15 PM
Here's my updated version:

MAK 90 with MG42 Gripstick retrofit and RPB Triangle Folding Stock ( fixed, non-folding clone )


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/MAK90RPB-1.jpg



-

Without a doubt the coolest franken-AK :)

MindBeyondAverage
06-28-2012, 10:27 PM
Thanks... If you do, post it. I have no experience with that mount but I does look better then MI original version. That flashlight sees to be pretty good as well.
I'd probably try that route as well.
As to cammo.... I'd do urban if I had to do it all over again (black, grays, blue etc).

I will post if I can get it done. You know what, when I first saw your ak I thought about what I would paint mine and I did decide on urban cammo. I figured it made sense. Dang, now I have to go through the trouble of taking my ak apart, putting the original stuff back on, sell the new stuff that I won't use anymore, and then order the newer stuff and put it on. I tell you man, getting it just right for personal preference is a mother and advice like yours lessons the mistakes made and time taken. So thanks.

JagerTroop
06-28-2012, 11:07 PM
Not sure how "non traditional" it is. No rails or AR furniture, but it DOES have a 1/2-28 FSC556 brake. lol.

Saiga 223
Conversion
Polish Beryl handguard and stock
Pushed back front sight (AKM) to resemble the Beryl
Custom AR magwell adapter. Paddle release. Unmodified AR mags (Pmag and USGI)
Super duper hi-tech aluminum fin grip
I haven't refinished it yet. Too busy having fun with it. It gets dragged through the dirt so much, refinishing might be a waste.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/photobucket-21368-1340696399883.jpg

chead
06-30-2012, 5:46 PM
Not sure how "non traditional" it is. No rails or AR furniture, but it DOES have a 1/2-28 FSC556 brake. lol.

Saiga 223
Conversion
Polish Beryl handguard and stock
Pushed back front sight (AKM) to resemble the Beryl
Custom AR magwell adapter. Paddle release. Unmodified AR mags (Pmag and USGI)
Super duper hi-tech aluminum fin grip
I haven't refinished it yet. Too busy having fun with it. It gets dragged through the dirt so much, refinishing might be a waste.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/photobucket-21368-1340696399883.jpg

I'm really into this. All functional, not trying to be a repro, just taking all the good stuff from the Beryl and making it happen on a .223 Saiga :)

ps: Do you mind if I re-post this on Tumblr?

zfields
06-30-2012, 6:36 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S2HZW4wYFIE/T-UTW54cuXI/AAAAAAAABoY/uQSgmJ1d2AE/s800/DSC00965.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WTJl10SJLu0/T-UTYHSThyI/AAAAAAAABpQ/g03ThpcRMhk/s800/DSC00970.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rq9RPmKZ1DU/T-fOyItBAdI/AAAAAAAABp4/rSwpv691-nQ/s800/craop.jpg

JagerTroop
06-30-2012, 6:58 PM
I'm really into this. All functional, not trying to be a repro, just taking all the good stuff from the Beryl and making it happen on a .223 Saiga :)

ps: Do you mind if I re-post this on Tumblr?

I've built so many rifles, I'm way past the fancy stuff :) I just want it to work.

Re-post till your heart's content. I'll edit to add some better pics tomorrow.

zfields
06-30-2012, 8:15 PM
Jager,

That's a great looking rifle. I wish I could have picked up one of those beryl stocks, but I got impatient and got one of the tantals.

TNP'R
06-30-2012, 8:25 PM
^
Nice pistol, just needs some type of optic.



Thanks but no need to quote all the pics.

Before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/667744.jpg)
and
After
v

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/c9688da8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/c7821d6d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/b43e7915.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/2bda6921.jpg

Probably slimmest profile light/mount possible.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/8c0a10c2.jpg

Want! Love your rifle!

ohnozombeez
07-03-2012, 7:14 PM
Anyone have a saiga sporter or the like customed out? Id like to see one.

BradleyAbrams
07-08-2012, 2:51 AM
Without a doubt the coolest franken-AK :)

Thank you, Sir -

Same MAK 90, now wearing a relatively rare ( 7.62 X39 ) Bakelite 40-Round Izmash Magazine.


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/006.jpg


-

Cobrafreak
07-08-2012, 9:48 AM
7.62x39 Saiga conversion with NATO length stock. Texas Weapons System dust cover that I modified to accept a H&K G3 rear iron turret sight. 21" of sight radius now! More than doubles the accuracy of the weapon. Monster Man grip for featurless shooting with 30 round pre-ban mags.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/jperickson2001/photo-100.jpg

duc748bip
07-12-2012, 4:37 PM
You need a iPhone on that rifle.
If you can aim all that laser on to one point you can really do some damage. Or light a candle.

Just got my first AK after 20 years of shooting. I will enjoy the traditional look of th SGL21 for now. But I'm fighting the itch pretty hard.
And edit to add, how wre the optic surviving beed so close to the gasblock/piston or "Hot areas"

thanks


Bullpupped Draco pistol. Need to do a "pretty" shot of it one of these days.

And for the Commissary Ninja in all of us:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Draco/MNDraco3.jpg

chead
07-13-2012, 10:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/0556Bl.jpg
Tactical pink polkadot duct tape.

xxx187xxx
07-17-2012, 12:41 AM
SWEEEEEEEEEET jesus! i was just about to sell my wasr-10 wednesday till i saw this thread, could anyone tell me what collapsable stock kit you guys put on there in order to run the magpul CTR? perhaps link me to a good site to buy the after market parts so i could bastardize my WASR! PRETTY PLEASE :D

TacticalPlinker
07-17-2012, 1:40 AM
SWEEEEEEEEEET jesus! i was just about to sell my wasr-10 wednesday till i saw this thread, could anyone tell me what collapsable stock kit you guys put on there in order to run the magpul CTR? perhaps link me to a good site to buy the after market parts so i could bastardize my WASR! PRETTY PLEASE :D

VLTOR is the most popular company making stock adapters for the AK, but EMA Tactical and AK Builder also have one, and there is always Tapco...

They should all work with the Magpul buttstocks (and other brands) if you get the version for commercial sized buffer tubes.

The VLTOR is expensive but it seems to the best built, but the EMA Tactical version looks promising. EMA also has a cheaper polymer version.

docsmileyface
07-17-2012, 6:20 AM
SWEEEEEEEEEET jesus! i was just about to sell my wasr-10 wednesday till i saw this thread, could anyone tell me what collapsable stock kit you guys put on there in order to run the magpul CTR? perhaps link me to a good site to buy the after market parts so i could bastardize my WASR! PRETTY PLEASE :D

I used the VLTOR stock extension kit, a MOE and like the biggest cheek riser they made for the MOE. Works beautifully.

Ventura_Yak'r
08-03-2012, 2:17 PM
Here's my KTR-09 I picked up on the cheap... sorry for the crappy phone pic

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr177/ruwako/2012-08-03_14-49-30_764.jpg

Kreb's KTR-09 & LMT CQB MRP Defender 16

MindBeyondAverage
08-04-2012, 7:53 PM
Well, I updated my AK, now that I am more experienced and know what to do to make it work for me. I still want to put a fixed stock on it, Ultimak rail on top, longer rail on the bottom, and paint it Urban digital camo (not sure).

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h354/mindbeyondaverage/Newakpic.jpg

The other side of the rail has the latter type rail covers because its more comfortable for my thumb. I have long arms so the AFG is about exactly where I need it, without accidentally touching hot metal. I left the top of the UTG rail on just in case I want to use my Eotech 552, otherwise its pointless.

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h354/mindbeyondaverage/IMG_17791.jpg
This Attero mount and Burris Fastfire 3 allows for a 1/3 cowitness, even though, in the pic, it looks like absolute cowitness. The Attero mount has a built in rear sight with white dots and there is an allen wrench in the handle that can remove the Burris, but the sight picture is visible even if the Burris fails.

Critiques are very welcome and needed. Thanks.

FiveSeven
08-07-2012, 11:47 AM
^
It's cool, except that it looks to bulky (the slimmer the better imo).

MindBeyondAverage
Nice mods, Way better then in the beginning, Very nice & (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/77/3cb991ad.jpg)


Anyway, this is my scope fabrication.
Original. Romanian PSO scope with PSL/SVD mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/e007ce54.jpg

Cut off mount, with different filles and little bit dremmel work I was able to fit AD 30mm Aimpoint mount (rings) on to scope. Used longer screws then the mount came with (extra length for tighter & more secure fit).
Painted with coyote Alumahyde II (need to replace rear eye-piece cover- broke).
Very sturdy setup-mount.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/75f19037.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/61ef052d.jpg


My modified AK's so far, as can be seen throughout this thread. I think I'm done for a while (if not permanent).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ba068798.jpg

Gruber51
08-07-2012, 9:31 PM
My modified Arsenal SLG-21

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10100305.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10100298.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10100276.JPG

ultimatetaba
08-09-2012, 12:51 AM
Taken on my cell phone, so please excuse the quality.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn35/ultimatetaba888/IMG_20120806_131134.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn35/ultimatetaba888/IMG_20120806_123646.jpg

Gruber51
08-10-2012, 5:53 PM
Sorry for poor picture quality, just finished this arsenal slg21
Includes:
Cmore red dot
Texas weapon system with peep sight
Midwest industries extended rail
U.S. Palm grip
VLTOR buffer tube
Magpul ctr stock with riser and extended pad.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10100305.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10100298.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10100276.JPG

sindominator
09-01-2012, 9:42 AM
Here are my girls:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f250/sindominator/267811_1821646463568_4598962_n.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f250/sindominator/278228_1821638223362_1312407214_31583599_7573687_o .jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f250/sindominator/IMG_1718.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f250/sindominator/IMG_1717.jpg

chead
09-02-2012, 11:06 AM
Milled under-folder: Winner :)

janus408
09-18-2012, 4:58 PM
Since this thread is part of the reason I decided on an AK74 as my first semi auto rifle, I thought I should come back here now that my conversion is done and share! Tomorrow I have my optics/mount arriving, I will add those pics later.

http://i.imgur.com/oHqoN.jpg?2

http://i.imgur.com/24R1g.jpg?3

CK_32
09-18-2012, 5:47 PM
Why are there no pics..?

I'm a wood fan I snuck in :p

Ignore above..

should have known it was my computer :facepalm:

But actually I like some of these black AK's.. Dont make me want another gun please!!

Cadre
09-20-2012, 12:44 PM
Why are there no pics..?

I'm a wood fan I snuck in :p

But actually I like some of these black AK's.. Dont make me want another gun please!!

"Resistance is futile"

CK_32
09-20-2012, 2:04 PM
"Resistance is futile"

For the longest time I was anti AK.

Now look who owns one.. Lol

Not black tho... :D

Cadre
09-20-2012, 3:25 PM
For the longest time I was anti AK.

Now look who owns one.. Lol

Not black tho... :D

welcome to the dark sde :)

here's mine

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/seronian/DSC_0040a.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/seronian/DSC_0041a.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/seronian/DSC_0042a.jpg

FiveSeven
09-20-2012, 6:22 PM
^
Very nice! Especially the signature pic.

MY Featureless AK.. This project took about 3-4 hours (cutting, filing, drilling/taping etc).
Stock is pinned and just for extra strength tubes are connected, so it it's one stock in a way, (CA sucks).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex1_zpsd40433e2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex2_zps626c7c80.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex5_zps24b799ea.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex4_zps5c8df4e3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex3_zps61ea1a8c.jpg

64physhy
09-20-2012, 8:09 PM
Before you flame me for this, I built it for my wife.
Saiga AK-74

Crappy cell phone pics
how do you get it to show the pics instead of attachments?

Cadre
09-24-2012, 10:18 PM
Before you flame me for this, I built it for my wife.
Saiga AK-74

Crappy cell phone pics
how do you get it to show the pics instead of attachments?

photobucket copy paste image code...nice ak

Fate
09-25-2012, 11:43 AM
^
Very nice! Especially the signature pic.

MY Featureless AK.. This project took about 3-4 hours (cutting, filing, drilling/taping etc).
Stock is pinned and just for extra strength tubes are connected, so it it's one stock in a way, (CA sucks).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex1_zpsd40433e2.jpg

Nice looking AK.

However, a Battlecomp on a Featureless rifle is a bad idea based on Hunt v. Lockyer case law. It's advertised as having flash reducing capabilities and such claims have been verified with photographic evidence. It's a CA Flash Suppressor and thus NO GO for Featureless rifles.

FiveSeven
09-25-2012, 12:42 PM
Nice looking AK.

However, a Battlecomp on a Featureless rifle is a bad idea based on Hunt v. Lockyer case law. It's advertised as having flash reducing capabilities and such claims have been verified with photographic evidence. It's a CA Flash Suppressor and thus NO GO for Featureless rifles.

Thanks for heads up.... I'll replace it as I have a few good comps to choose from.

mod1217
09-25-2012, 2:12 PM
Nice looking AK,
However, a Battlecomp on a Featureless rifle is a bad idea based on Hunt v. Lockyer case law. It's advertised as having flash reducing capabilities and such claims have been verified with photographic evidence. It's a CA Flash Suppressor and thus NO GO for Featureless rifles.

I was about to say the same thing just dont have the heart to do injustice to such a beautiful piece of machinery :(

Ryan in SD
09-25-2012, 2:36 PM
I'm a wood person and I personally wouldn't put ANY of that stuff on mine but who cares. Each to his own. It's your rifle you can do whatever you want with it. But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

MASSIVE FACE PALM.

Such a fail post it hurts.

JayBeeJay
09-25-2012, 4:06 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/vrivilla/Guns/Draco%20AK%20Pistol/DSC_0237.jpg

whoa...you shoot that draco one handed? lol j/k!

victorr
09-25-2012, 4:15 PM
I know!! It looks totally different now, although I miss the functionality of the red dot at day and the green laser at night. Had a whole lot of fun with the set up at night shoots!

NastyNate
09-25-2012, 4:24 PM
I'll play.

Here's my Arsenal.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/cunamaynd/AK.jpg

victorr
09-26-2012, 5:42 AM
Bulgy "AKS-74";)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/vrivilla/Guns/Bulgarian%20Clone/DSC_0664.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/vrivilla/Guns/Bulgarian%20Clone/DSC_0655.jpg

FiveSeven
09-26-2012, 7:26 AM
^
Nice AK, but it looks rather traditional to me. Why is it that the mag looks like 7.62 to me?

I was about to say the same thing just dont have the heart to do injustice to such a beautiful piece of machinery :(

So, you reserve not to say anything just because you like the way it looks, even though it might be illegal (and have me end up locked up & violated :eek:)
not cool man, not cool.

victorr
09-26-2012, 7:57 AM
It's 7.62, hence the "AKS-74". I know..more traditional, but not wood. I have an Ultimak M1-B going on it soon.

WhiteDingo
09-26-2012, 5:54 PM
My little monster.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/whitedingo/IMAG0837.jpg

Lagduf
09-26-2012, 6:06 PM
My little monster.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/whitedingo/IMAG0837.jpg

What in the world are we looking at.

Tell us more about this wonderful little monster.

WhiteDingo
09-26-2012, 7:12 PM
What in the world are we looking at.

Tell us more about this wonderful little monster.

Started life as a Tantal that just runs and runs.
Changed the grip out to a Galil grip, the stock is an RPB fixed triangle. Shortened and re-crowned the barrel to fit the Bulgarian 104/105 gas block, permanently attached the AK-USA brake. Ultimak upper rail and Beryl handguard.

Texas weapon systems hinged top cover scope base, modified to work with the reciprocating left-side charging handle and sliding dust cover (sort of like an FNC or 249) that I built for the rifle. Inspiration for this was the Galil ACE.

It was my project to build a modernized AK-pattern rifle without going too "American" with it. I think it turned out swell. About the only thing I'm considering adding is a slightly larger magazine release lever, but that's not an immediate need.

smog7
09-26-2012, 8:49 PM
^I like it! How much do you think you have in it?

WhiteDingo
09-27-2012, 4:47 PM
^I like it! How much do you think you have in it?

Parts and materials would be about $950, not including the ACOG or grip wrap. Also not including my labor for the barrel work or R&D time on the charging handle and dust cover.

FourTenJaeger
09-27-2012, 6:33 PM
I want to see your pimp AK's.

Gold, Chrome, Engraved and Gaudy. ;)

sffred
09-27-2012, 6:38 PM
^
Very nice! Especially the signature pic.

MY Featureless AK.. This project took about 3-4 hours (cutting, filing, drilling/taping etc).
Stock is pinned and just for extra strength tubes are connected, so it it's one stock in a way, (CA sucks).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex1_zpsd40433e2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex2_zps626c7c80.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex5_zps24b799ea.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex4_zps5c8df4e3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex3_zps61ea1a8c.jpg

Omg! Milled receiver!

cortayack
09-27-2012, 8:15 PM
I love AK's.................:43:

zombiescanlearn
10-02-2012, 12:10 PM
Here is my first AK

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb391/mqd123/Lecture4.jpg

Here is me shooting an earlier version of it at a carbine class. Half way through the class I started to lose zero on the red dot and everything started to fall apart. So I went back home and got a better scope mount and moved it further back on rifle. I also put blue loctite on everything. A thousand round + later, it's still zeroed and nothing has fallen off.

I'm working on a Yugo M92 right now, will share shortly.

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb391/mqd123/AK1.jpg

chozenfew805
10-04-2012, 12:54 PM
All the pics that were posted are :43: pretty sweet!

BradleyAbrams
10-18-2012, 12:08 AM
My First Build;

The ZOMBAT KAR-b

Based on an AK Builder AMD65 (12.5" Barrel) Parts Kit, Khyber Flat, Triangle Side-Folder, Custom-Made Integrated Front-Sight-Base / Gas-Block, Custom-Made 5.25" long Muzzle Brake, Magpul MOE 870 ForeEnd handgrip, modified MOLOT Pistol Grip ( MD Arms) and Texas AK Triggers FCG.


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/Cars/ZOMBATKARBINA037.jpg?t=1350346349



http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/Cars/ZOMBATKARBINA048.jpg?t=1350346687



http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/Cars/ZOMBATKARBINA068.jpg?t=1350347075



CloseUp of both Custom Made Muzzle-Brake and Integrated FSB / GB:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/Cars/ZOMBATKARBINA051.jpg?t=1350346804http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/081.jpg?t=1347351693



http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/Cars/ZOMBATKARABINERdasFHULDER059.jpg?t=1350542152




http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/blndyhb/Cars/ZOMBATKARABINERdasFHULDER069.jpg?t=1350542320




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peppermintman
11-03-2012, 6:13 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/cruzie27/AK%20family/posters/comrade.jpg

:p

How the heck did you add that to the picture. Who said it he did or you did? I'll keep mine like the one he's holding

peppermintman
11-03-2012, 6:15 PM
Tradition is boring.

http://i.imgur.com/NgGDNl.jpg

That Strikefire is sitting on an ultra-low mount now.

There's that grip wrap thing again. Why do some guys prefer putting that on their AK's?????

Carsgunsandchics
11-03-2012, 6:18 PM
There's that grip wrap thing again. Why do some guys prefer putting that on their AK's?????


Detachable mag, and 10+ capacity.

FiveSeven
11-04-2012, 4:52 PM
How the heck did you add that to the picture. Who said it he did or you did? I'll keep mine like the one he's holding

Nonsense, Kalashnikov would never have stated that as he's much more happier with modern stuff on his creation.
Look at that sad photo and this one where he's clearly much happier.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/TKIAc_zpsffe2f18d.jpg

X-actly
11-06-2012, 9:17 PM
Here is my WASR-10 (Romanian AK-47). 100% refinished. I personally conducted all of the work myself. I fully disassembled then media blasted the entire rifle using 70 grit aluminum oxide. Prepped by degreasing with acetone, out gassed and then coated with CeraKote's "H" series "Patriot Brown" and "Flat Dark Earth" (FDE) inside and out. Kiln cured at @250*F for 2 hours. Reassembled with a full trigger job and function tested...GTG!

Details:
-Roman Arms WASR-10
-Cerakote Finishes (FDE & Patriot Brown)
-Custom Fabricated Bolt Extension
-Voltor AR15 Stock Adaptor
-Magpul CTR w/ .5" Riser
-Magpul AFG II
-Magpul XTS Rail Covers
-ERGO Ladder Rail Covers
-Burris Fast Fire II Reflex Sight
-Midwest Industries AK47 Rail System
-Falcon Industries SAW Pistol Grip
-Custom Fabricated Safety Lever Extension
-Solar Tactical AK Magazine Lock
-10/30 Custom Magazines
-Surefire Scout Light (Wraped in USMC MARPAT Desert Camo Form)
-Weaver 45* Offset Light Rail

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/277254_3727219591324_2020396607_o.jpg

FiveSeven
11-10-2012, 12:22 PM
^
Very nice......Good FH (not MB) is a must.

ParanoidCivilian
11-12-2012, 7:47 PM
^
Very nice! Especially the signature pic.

MY Featureless AK.. This project took about 3-4 hours (cutting, filing, drilling/taping etc).
Stock is pinned and just for extra strength tubes are connected, so it it's one stock in a way, (CA sucks).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex1_zpsd40433e2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex2_zps626c7c80.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex5_zps24b799ea.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex4_zps5c8df4e3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/ex3_zps61ea1a8c.jpg

Who makes those handguards?

ultimatetaba
11-12-2012, 9:36 PM
Who makes those handguards?

Hogue

http://www.getgrip.com/main/overview/ak_47.html

Lil Bawbee
12-17-2012, 11:07 PM
just finished mine ready for paint!

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x153/low225/IMG_20121217_235645.jpg

64physhy
12-18-2012, 4:28 PM
Here is my WASR-10 (Romanian AK-47). 100% refinished. I personally conducted all of the work myself. I fully disassembled then media blasted the entire rifle using 70 grit aluminum oxide. Prepped by degreasing with acetone, out gassed and then coated with CeraKote's "H" series "Patriot Brown" and "Flat Dark Earth" (FDE) inside and out. Kiln cured at @250*F for 2 hours. Reassembled with a full trigger job and function tested...GTG!

Details:
-Roman Arms WASR-10
-Cerakote Finishes (FDE & Patriot Brown)
-Custom Fabricated Bolt Extension
-Voltor AR15 Stock Adaptor
-Magpul CTR w/ .5" Riser
-Magpul AFG II
-Magpul XTS Rail Covers
-ERGO Ladder Rail Covers
-Burris Fast Fire II Reflex Sight
-Midwest Industries AK47 Rail System
-Falcon Industries SAW Pistol Grip
-Custom Fabricated Safety Lever Extension
-Solar Tactical AK Magazine Lock
-10/30 Custom Magazines
-Surefire Scout Light (Wraped in USMC MARPAT Desert Camo Form)
-Weaver 45* Offset Light Rail

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/277254_3727219591324_2020396607_o.jpg
Very nicely done! It looks like the compensator is on sideways though.

Deep_Sea
12-18-2012, 5:03 PM
Nice one X-actly.
Awsome AR....uhhh...I mean AK. Seriously. Proof the AK platform can transform into a modern combat effective system. Lets see more!

FiveSeven
12-19-2012, 10:12 AM
Custom scope/mount.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/AK111000a1_zpsd09f29b1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/AK111000c_zps56aedadb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns4/AK111000b_zpsf9d0663d.jpg

For sale if anyone's interested.:chris:

theunknown
12-22-2012, 12:04 AM
Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude ergonomics and lack of versatility. I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle. Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.
With that stated, there's many ways one can improve on AK just like with any other rifle that you prefer. AK's just so happen to be my preference.
Yes, all these mods make rifle easier to shoot/handle. In my particular experience they make the rifle more accurate as well and I believe its combinations of things.


Converted Saiga (newer series with 24mm FSB).
Cheek weld with this scope + Magpul CTR stock is outstanding, well balanced and very easy to place on target, a world of a difference when compared to traditional AK.
Those Hand guards dissipate heat much better than any wood or polymer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image1v5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefgh-1.jpg

IOR 4x24 (tac scope) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Image3cr.jpg)

Russian 24mm compensator (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefg.jpg) has internal baffle, reduces recoil a bit but sound very unusual/weird, not like any AK muzzle break I've shot with. Only drawback is that its not chromed lined as some of the other Russian muzzle devices. Needs to be removed for proper cleaning but that's not a big deal anyway. I use fine steel wool and it works well.

Surefire G2 (200lm LED). (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns%203/Saiga1abcdefghi.jpg)


New to the forum and I totally agree with you, although I am brand new to rifles, I want a AK but in the style you have made this. What does this baby run? I am looking to get something in the style of these tactical ak before anything bad happens. Trying to educate myself fast :/