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db.40
10-16-2011, 8:22 PM
Hey all,

so I finally decided to dust off the stripped lower I bought and build my AR. However I have some questions about uppers. In general, what are some "good brands" and "not-so-good brands?" I know overall weight of the gun can be a big factor but I am not seeing weight in the details of uppers online. As far as twist, it seems "1/7" is pretty common?

I stumbled upon sabre defence uppers and like the looks of a few but havent heard much about the brand on here. I feel like I'm rambling now so I'll wrap this up, but I am just out of my element when it comes to constructing a rifle. any advice would be appreciated.

uxo2
10-16-2011, 8:32 PM
carbine or rifle....how much money do you want to spend?

Cole125
10-16-2011, 8:32 PM
It all depends on how much money you are willing to spend. Many great uppers in the sub $700 range.

Stag Arms is the best bang for the buck IMO.

Dirty Monkey
10-16-2011, 8:37 PM
Get Bravo company, I love mine.

db.40
10-16-2011, 8:47 PM
I guess I'm not completely sure of the differences between a carbine and rifle. I'm looking to spend no more than $800, but the cheaper the better.

FourLoko
10-16-2011, 8:56 PM
this!

https://www.primaryarms.com/Spike_s_Tactical_16_Inch_Midlength_LE_Upper_p/spkstu5035.htm

RRichie09
10-16-2011, 8:56 PM
Spike's - cheap, reputable, but you have to wait.

Why don't you post a picture of the type of AR you want and we can help you even more.

gmcal
10-16-2011, 8:57 PM
I would worry less about brand and worry more about finding the right upper for your intended purposes. What do you want to do with it? Use optics?

Yes, Sabre Defense is good stuff but IIRC, they filed for backrunptcy last year and I wouldn't expect any warranty support or customer service.

83-604
10-16-2011, 8:57 PM
DPMS rule!!!

evidens83
10-16-2011, 9:03 PM
PSA

FastFinger
10-16-2011, 10:13 PM
PSA

Ditto. If you have just the lower, and need the LPK, check out this package:

http://palmettostatearmory.com/2551.php

Just put mine together, lightweight, quality parts, didn't bust my budget.



http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/558/wide2.jpg

NYY
10-16-2011, 10:49 PM
Stag, call it a day, and end this thread. plz.... :shock: ........ :banghead:..........:90:.......:beatdeadhorse5:

FourLoko
10-16-2011, 10:57 PM
Stag, call it a day, and end this thread. plz.... :shock: ........ :banghead:..........:90:.......:beatdeadhorse5:

no

Spikes

https://www.primaryarms.com/Spike_s_Tactical_16_Inch_Midlength_LE_Upper_p/spkstu5035.htm

tacticalcity
10-16-2011, 11:01 PM
CMMG Inc. is nice.

NYY
10-16-2011, 11:01 PM
no

Spikes

https://www.primaryarms.com/Spike_s_Tactical_16_Inch_Midlength_LE_Upper_p/spkstu5035.htm

haha k good. even better. thread-dead.

notford
10-16-2011, 11:21 PM
Rifle gear stuff is made by Daniel Defense and priced well within your budget. I have PSA, but all the companies mentioned are pretty good quality per this forum and AR15.com.

FMJBT
10-17-2011, 12:20 AM
If you could fill us in on what you want the rifle to do, you will get more direct help and not such a wide range of answers. Do you want a rifle just for plinking at 100 yards? A long range rifle capable of 800+ yard accuracy? Zombie CQB (For when the horde closes in)? Night time pig hunting? Etc.

For pretty much any build other than varmint rifles that shoot lighter weight bullets, I'd suggest going with either a 1-8" or 1-7" twist for the barrel. 1-9" twist is fine for 55 and 62 grain loads, but has a hard time stabilizing 69-77 grain loads that are geared more for long range. The heavier bullets can spin sideways in as little as 25 yards from the muzzle, causing total loss of anything resembling accuracy. Using a 1-7" twist on 55 and 62 grain bullets generally doesn't have any negative effect other than slightly slower muzzle velocity.

As far as brands go, anymore you almost have to dig to find anyone putting out absolute crap for uppers. Sabre Defense, Stag, Spike's, BCM, Daniel Defense, PSA are all good to go. On the rare occasion that I buy a fully assembled upper, I normally go through PK Firearms since they only list what is currently in stock and have insanely fast shipping. They do a pretty decent job at assembly as well.

db.40
10-17-2011, 6:44 AM
I think mostly it's just going to be a "tacticool" zombie gun that I take to the range occasionally. As far as furniture, I'd like to mount some sort of optic, forward grip, maybe a light, and folding iron sights.

REPR
10-17-2011, 9:44 AM
This right here for the win!

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU9540VTX&name=Spikes+Tactical+14.5%22+Elite+CHF+Vortex+5.56 %2f.223+NiB+BCG+Upper+Receiver&groupid=6

bloodhawke83
10-17-2011, 9:52 AM
This right here for the win!

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU9540VTX&name=Spikes+Tactical+14.5%22+Elite+CHF+Vortex+5.56 %2f.223+NiB+BCG+Upper+Receiver&groupid=6

thanks a sweet upper.

bloodhawke83
10-17-2011, 9:56 AM
no

Spikes

https://www.primaryarms.com/Spike_s_Tactical_16_Inch_Midlength_LE_Upper_p/spkstu5035.htm

I got this one, so far is it preforming well with iron sights. Gonna scope it and see what kind of groupings i get.

FMJBT
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
I like this one quite a bit. Lightweight, compact, free floated for max accuracy, and it has the new Spike's Dynacomp as well. This would be an excellent multi purpose upper with a 1-4 scope. 14.5" barrel should max out somewhere around 600 yards with heavier match ammo, and should be really good at close range also.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5050R2D&name=Spikes+Tactical+14.5%22+Lightweight+5.56%2f.2 23+DynaComp+BAR-12+Upper+Receiver&groupid=368

http://www.aimsurplus.com/eos/images/product/XSTU5050R2D.jpg

pacifico23
10-17-2011, 10:37 AM
IDE go for BCM, PSA or Armalite. But I'm a armalite fan boy. So I guess my vote is kinda biased.

dieselpower
10-17-2011, 10:41 AM
IDE go for BCM, PSA or Armalite. But I'm a armalite fan boy. So I guess my vote is kinda biased.

agree, that AR roll mark goes a long way with me too.

slam128
10-17-2011, 10:42 AM
There's a wait on the DD mid length lightweight. Get a BCM!~

BAGunner
10-17-2011, 11:13 AM
Someone please bring on the tier 1/2/3 list...

My upper choice:
~600 PSA
~900 BCM
~1200 Noveske Larue

Features I will look for:
<$1000 uppers: 1/7 twist, chrome lined, mid-length, HPI/MPI bolt and barrel, CMV steel, properly staked gas key, auto BCG,

>$1200 uppers are usually GTG.

Knife Edge
10-17-2011, 11:20 AM
Someone please bring on the tier 1/2/3 list...

My upper choice:
~600 PSA
~900 BCM
~1200 Noveske Larue

Features I will look for:
$1200 uppers are usually GTG.

Larue is LW50 polygonal stainless, polished BCG (clean with a dry rag), Texas-staked gas key, probably some kick tale hand guard that bolts to the upper.... I'd say tier 1 regardless of use. LW50 longer lasting than 416.