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edittman1
10-13-2011, 8:25 PM
Apparently the Army discontinued the ACU pattern for use. Everyone is selling their ACU for dirt cheap, too.

Sure, the pattern itself isn't that "attractive" or realistic. But it isn't as bad as wearing a BLACK vest out in most of CA. Or Ranger green or even Coyote brown is a little too dark for most CA terrain.

So what gives?

Am I an idiot for just buying an Eagle CIRAS in ACU for $200? Maybe I can dye it if it's that silly to run ACU these days.

joelogic
10-13-2011, 9:11 PM
Do you know which civilians care about the color of their gear?

Pedantic
10-13-2011, 9:13 PM
Here's a blog post about it. http://rainbowops.com/archives/564

From my own anecdotal and non-scientific study, ACU makes you stand out, not blend in. I could spot an Army dismounted patrol from hundreds of meters away thanks to their nifty blue-grey non-camoflauge.

Go Multicam of Marpat.

DannyInSoCal
10-13-2011, 9:15 PM
OD green / Grey is the best anyway.

Although my favorite hat is a National Guard ACU signed by Dale Jr at a charity event we sponsored a few years back...

mlevans66
10-13-2011, 9:40 PM
Apparently the Army discontinued the ACU pattern for use. Everyone is selling their ACU for dirt cheap, too.

Sure, the pattern itself isn't that "attractive" or realistic. But it isn't as bad as wearing a BLACK vest out in most of CA. Or Ranger green or even Coyote brown is a little too dark for most CA terrain.

So what gives?

Am I an idiot for just buying an Eagle CIRAS in ACU for $200? Maybe I can dye it if it's that silly to run ACU these days.

The ACU cammies where a horrible pattern. Almost as bad as the Navy's blue pattern.

Steve1968LS2
10-14-2011, 7:02 AM
The ACU cammies where a horrible pattern. Almost as bad as the Navy's blue pattern.

The Navy's pattern at least had a purpose.. it was made so that if they got the most common colors of Naval paint on them that the uniforms would have to be trashed. At least that's what I remember from when the uniforms were introduced.

smle-man
10-14-2011, 11:06 AM
One of the problems with the UCU uniform is that the shades of tan, gray, and light green in the pattern quickly fade to light gray and darker gray so that the wearer is ready for service in a gravel pit but no where else. The uniform itself is comfortable to wear but not durable at all.

edittman1
10-14-2011, 12:35 PM
Hmm maybe I'll dye thi carrier tan then.

Maddog5150
10-14-2011, 12:52 PM
hah! really? What are we going towards?

awall919
10-14-2011, 12:56 PM
I heard rumors a while back that they were looking to switch to Multi-cam. Hopefully that's the case. Regardless I'm looking forward to all the surplus gear that should be hitting the market if they do change patterns.

Maddog5150
10-14-2011, 1:04 PM
Rumors are like *******s. Everyone has one and they all smell funny. They have been talking about ditching UCP for a long time yet we still have that pattern on our ACU's. There has been rumors of multi-cam, A-tacs, and the Marine pattern (dont hate, the Army paid for them ;) ) I would like to see a link to an article about big army actually officially changing the uniform and not an article of the Army just testing them.

Maddog5150
10-14-2011, 1:30 PM
Here's a blog post about it. http://rainbowops.com/archives/564

From my own anecdotal and non-scientific study, ACU makes you stand out, not blend in. I could spot an Army dismounted patrol from hundreds of meters away thanks to their nifty blue-grey non-camoflauge.

Go Multicam of Marpat.

Thats a blog post about a soldiers experience and its also on an airsoft forum. Have anything credible about the Army actually making the change?

Pedantic
10-14-2011, 4:15 PM
Thats a blog post about a soldiers experience and its also on an airsoft forum. Have anything credible about the Army actually making the change?

The Army hasn't yet picked a new camoflauge pattern to replace the old pattern. For now, units deploying to Afghanistan will wear Multicam uniforms, which the Army refers to as OCP. (Operation Enduring Freedom Combat Pattern) http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/08/army-shelby-troops-receive-new-multicam-082210w/

Currently, they are evaluating several patterns to replace the old ACU pattern. "If all goes as planned, production will begin in October 2012."http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/09/army-impoved-combat-gear-to-debut-in-2012-092411/

Droppin Deuces
10-14-2011, 4:23 PM
Rumors are like *******s. Everyone has one and they all smell funny. They have been talking about ditching UCP for a long time yet we still have that pattern on our ACU's. There has been rumors of multi-cam, A-tacs, and the Marine pattern (dont hate, the Army paid for them ;) ) I would like to see a link to an article about big army actually officially changing the uniform and not an article of the Army just testing them.

I personally have never found the smell of anyone's ******* "funny."

edittman1
10-14-2011, 6:09 PM
Well I see how acu may be limiting. But ill just dye it or rattlecan my stuff tan. Might end up nice for CA terrain. :)

Maddog5150
10-14-2011, 6:36 PM
So op, where did you find out that the ucp is getting discontinued? I'm not being a smartass, I genuinely would like know

bassbones
10-14-2011, 8:05 PM
I love posts like this ... ACU is NOT a camo pattern .. The pattern you are talking about is UCP.... ACU is the newer style of uniform which differs from BDUs ... I personally think that anyone who doesn't know the difference should not be allowed to own anything that even LOOkS like any military weapon... .02... Dog pile please

ETD1010
10-14-2011, 10:04 PM
I personally think that anyone who doesn't know the difference should not be allowed to own anything that even LOOkS like any military weapon... .02... Dog pile please


Aw, man.. does that mean I have to give up my mosin nagants TOO???

Iskra
10-14-2011, 10:48 PM
Why not ACU?

Because blue does not occur in nature except in sea or sky.

Pedantic
10-14-2011, 11:33 PM
I love posts like this ... ACU is NOT a camo pattern .. The pattern you are talking about is UCP.... ACU is the newer style of uniform which differs from BDUs ... I personally think that anyone who doesn't know the difference should not be allowed to own anything that even LOOkS like any military weapon... .02... Dog pile please

Although, you are technically correct, ACU and UCP have become interchangeable terms used by, God forbid, soldiers themselves. There are many ways the Army could address this brand dilution. Perhaps with a new motto.

UCP: Why have camouflage that's perfect for one terrain when you can have camouflage that's useless in every terrain?

Merc1138
10-15-2011, 12:02 AM
Because blue does not occur in nature except in sea or sky.

You sure about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornflower
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Bachelor%27s_button,_Basket_flower,_Boutonniere_fl ower,_Cornflower_-_3.jpg/200px-Bachelor%27s_button,_Basket_flower,_Boutonniere_fl ower,_Cornflower_-_3.jpg
and another
http://images.meredith.com/bhg/images/plant/p_anchusa.jpg

Here's a natural frog
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/nm_blue_poison_080425_ssh.jpg

Here's a natural bird
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/PHOTO/LARGE/blue_jay_glamour.jpg
and another
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/004/cache/blue-bird_471_600x450.jpg

This natural snake looks pretty darn blue to me
http://www.decodedstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-coral-snake.jpg

And one more for you (http://www.priceisrightfail.com/)

Now if you had said that blue was rare in nature, sure. However you did not. There are other blue plants and flowers, birds, fish, snakes, insects, lizards, etc.

edit: Heck I even forgot about blue rocks(due to various elements, oxidized minerals, etc.), fungi...

Iskra
10-15-2011, 9:43 AM
You sure about that?



Now if you had said that blue was rare in nature, sure. However you did not. There are other blue plants and flowers, birds, fish, snakes, insects, lizards, etc.

edit: Heck I even forgot about blue rocks(due to various elements, oxidized minerals, etc.), fungi...

You win. I was wrong. Please accept my humblest apologies for overstating my point. I was trying to be succinct and a little bit funny, but it was probably too simple for you.

Perhaps this is better: "Because a blue gray blob moving through brown dirt and foliage is easy to see" :facepalm:

MXRider
10-15-2011, 9:48 AM
This is why not, you stick out like a sore thumb.

http://www.soc.mil/uns/Photo/2009/album/army_mil-47631-2009-08-12-070850.jpg

Pedantic
10-15-2011, 11:04 AM
These pictures serve to show how blue makes something stand out in its environment. But point taken. Blue things abound in nature, animal, mineral and vegetable.

You sure about that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornflower
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Bachelor%27s_button,_Basket_flower,_Boutonniere_fl ower,_Cornflower_-_3.jpg/200px-Bachelor%27s_button,_Basket_flower,_Boutonniere_fl ower,_Cornflower_-_3.jpg
and another
http://images.meredith.com/bhg/images/plant/p_anchusa.jpg

Here's a natural frog
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/nm_blue_poison_080425_ssh.jpg

Here's a natural bird
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/PHOTO/LARGE/blue_jay_glamour.jpg
and another
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/004/cache/blue-bird_471_600x450.jpg

This natural snake looks pretty darn blue to me
http://www.decodedstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-coral-snake.jpg

And one more for you (http://www.priceisrightfail.com/)

Now if you had said that blue was rare in nature, sure. However you did not. There are other blue plants and flowers, birds, fish, snakes, insects, lizards, etc.

edit: Heck I even forgot about blue rocks(due to various elements, oxidized minerals, etc.), fungi...