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danstar
10-09-2011, 7:27 AM
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Stoic Bacchanal
10-09-2011, 7:32 AM
There are no such thing as "overriders" as that would be illegal. However, there are TOOLS available to make the release of fixed magazines more convenient. I would suggest the Prince50 tool and bullet button.

pacrimguru
10-09-2011, 7:36 AM
here you go:

http://www.valkyrietactical.com/images/P50005-1.jpg (http://www.valkyrietactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=62&products_id=1514)

http://www.valkyrietactical.com/product_info.php?cPath=62&products_id=1514

dieselpower
10-09-2011, 7:41 AM
The minute you leave CA, you can remove the BB and install a regular magazine release. Takes less than 2 minutes if you have the proper tool.

You then re-install the BB BEFORE returning to CA.

Don't get stupid... a felony conviction is a life long ban on firearms not to mention it has to be disclosed on job applications, memberships in certain clubs, banned from many careers. The ARREST alone even WITHOUT a conviction has long lasting repercussions. Its not freaking worth it.

Stoic Bacchanal
10-09-2011, 7:41 AM
PS- metal dog tactical sells them with no sales tax and free shipping.

tileguy
10-09-2011, 7:45 AM
+1 on what dieselpower said.

shafferds
10-09-2011, 8:05 AM
Don't be stupid or try and be sly. If you break the law the anti's just use it as another example for attacking our 2nd rights.

triggs75
10-09-2011, 8:12 AM
Vamfire free lock

http://www.riflegear.com/p-497-vamfire-freelock-mini-kit-red.aspx

WDE91
10-09-2011, 9:02 AM
why dont you look into this
http://www.riflegear.com/p-470-raddlock-ar-series-magazine-lock.aspx

turn the screw all the way in and it is locked (Featured in state)
turn the screw all the way out and it is unlocked (out of state,rimfire,featureless)

As others have mentioned please follow the laws
Im sure you cannot fathom the consequences and repercussions.

huntercf
10-09-2011, 9:30 AM
At every gun show I have been to there is always a booth with the "ultimate BB tool" is is magnetic and instantly turns the BB into a regular release. It is legal in CA as long as you only put it on to release the mag and then remove it. If you leave it on then it makes the AR an AW, but out of state it is easy and simple without having to remove anything. Some of the booths even have a button (for your shirt) that comes with it to keep it one when shooting.

Paul_R
10-09-2011, 9:51 AM
why dont you look into this
http://www.riflegear.com/p-470-raddlock-ar-series-magazine-lock.aspx

turn the screw all the way in and it is locked (Featured in state)
turn the screw all the way out and it is unlocked (out of state,rimfire,featureless)

As others have mentioned please follow the laws
Im sure you cannot fathom the consequences and repercussions.

+1 on the raddlock and the advice.

Here's the "overider" for a Raddlock, it's pretty complicated but with some practice you can probably deploy it and be done in about 10 seconds:

http://jproc.ca/crypto/seven_level_screwdriver.jpg

motorwerks
10-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Radlock is full of win. :D

WDE91
10-09-2011, 11:17 AM
Radlock is full of win. :D

I do agree

If you are going to go locked in CA it is the way to go
yes you spend more but it is superior

I keep the included tool in my grip so I always have it with me :43:

SDM44
10-09-2011, 1:05 PM
It sounds like the OP is asking about the bb magnet that's sold at gun shows, and is illegal to use in CA.

I'm all for helping people with CA legal facts, parts, and info. But with 2 posts and the way the OP is asking, it sounds like he might have just made the account to post asking where & what to get for his CA bullet button. If I'm wrong about it, then I admit it. But the 'tool' that he's asking about with a magnet always brings up controversy.

MrPlink
10-09-2011, 2:14 PM
just get a convertible bullet button.
done and done

and yes, Im going to say it again: PLEASE KEEP IT LEGAL!

RRichie09
10-09-2011, 2:32 PM
At every gun show I have been to there is always a booth with the "ultimate BB tool" is is magnetic and instantly turns the BB into a regular release. It is legal in CA as long as you only put it on to release the mag and then remove it. If you leave it on then it makes the AR an AW, but out of state it is easy and simple without having to remove anything. Some of the booths even have a button (for your shirt) that comes with it to keep it one when shooting.

Actually your first sentence proves exactly why its illegal in california.

As soon as you use it to release the mag it becomes attached and you have a regular mag release for that split second.

Merc1138
10-09-2011, 2:38 PM
At every gun show I have been to there is always a booth with the "ultimate BB tool" is is magnetic and instantly turns the BB into a regular release. It is legal in CA as long as you only put it on to release the mag and then remove it. If you leave it on then it makes the AR an AW, but out of state it is easy and simple without having to remove anything. Some of the booths even have a button (for your shirt) that comes with it to keep it one when shooting.

You just explained why it's not legal to use, and then claimed it was legal :facepalm:

tacticalcity
10-09-2011, 2:41 PM
At every gun show I have been to there is always a booth with the "ultimate BB tool" is is magnetic and instantly turns the BB into a regular release. It is legal in CA as long as you only put it on to release the mag and then remove it. If you leave it on then it makes the AR an AW, but out of state it is easy and simple without having to remove anything. Some of the booths even have a button (for your shirt) that comes with it to keep it one when shooting.

It's not illegal either way. It annoys the heck out of me when people rewrite the law in their posts.

Supposedly some DAs have said they will prosecute people using these, but that is a far cry from it being illegal. The law does not cover magnetism either way. Just because their idiots, doesn't mean you should repeat their nonsense opinion as law.

Magnetic or not it is still a tool. Left in the hole or not it is still a tool. It a separate part, not actually attached to the rifle. Magnetism is not the same as being threaded into place and thus being part of the actual rifle. Magnetism does not actually make it part of the rifle. It is hanging onto the rifle via magnetism, but is is not part of the rifle. Just as the refrigerator magnet holding that drawing from your kid is not actually part of the refrigerator, nor is the drawing.

Any lawyer, no matter how incompetent, could make that case with ease.

The DA's argument would be that such a device violates the spirit of the law. While yours would be that it is within the letter of the law. Their case is the uphill battle, as it requires the judge to rewrite not only man's law but the laws of the physical universe.

The thing is, nobody wants to end up in front of a judge. Too risky, too expensive, too much of a nightmare. So if you draw a cop/DA with an agenda you find yourself in a bad place. Of course, that could happen regardless.

My point is, until a judge makes a decision one way or the other or the legislature rewrites the law, this device IS NOT ILLEGAL.

RRichie09
10-09-2011, 2:50 PM
It's not illegal either way. It annoys the heck out of me when people rewrite the law in their posts.

Magnetic or not it is still a tool. Left in the hole or not it is still a tool. It a separate part, not actually attached to the rifle. Magnetism is not the same as being threaded into place and thus being part of the actual rifle. Magnetism does not actually make it part of the rifle. Any lawyer, no matter how incompetent, could make that case with ease.


Sounds like you are guilty of the same thing. The law says attached. Having a tool tied on to your rifle with a piece of string is also a no-go but your logic would say its perfectly fine.

My point, the law doesn't say a part has to be threaded to be considered attached. It just says attached. Not permently attached either.

donking
10-09-2011, 4:34 PM
At every gun show I have been to there is always a booth with the "ultimate BB tool" is is magnetic and instantly turns the BB into a regular release. It is legal in CA as long as you only put it on to release the mag and then remove it. If you leave it on then it makes the AR an AW, but out of state it is easy and simple without having to remove anything. Some of the booths even have a button (for your shirt) that comes with it to keep it one when shooting.

Wrong! :nono:

The UBBT is a part that goes on the magazine and is perfectly legal. The magnetic thing is illegal and you should stay away from it. Here is UBBT http://ubbt.net/ It is highly recommended. :clap:

Also, Raddlock rock. :punk:

Merc1138
10-09-2011, 4:36 PM
Wrong! :nono:

The UBBT is a part that goes on the magazine and is perfectly legal. The magnetic thing is illegal and you should stay away from it. Here is UBBT http://ubbt.net/ It is highly recommended. :clap:

Also, Raddlock rock. :punk:

The magnetic tool itself isn't illegal, if you use it outside of CA. The problem is with the people who use it in CA.

donking
10-09-2011, 4:39 PM
Wrong! :nono:

The UBBT is a part that goes on the magazine and is perfectly legal. The magnetic thing is illegal and you should stay away from it. Here is UBBT http://ubbt.net/ It is highly recommended. :clap:

Also, Raddlock rock. :punk:

The magnetic tool itself isn't illegal, if you use it outside of CA. The problem is with the people who use it in CA.

Yea, forgot to say "to use in CA." Thanks for the correction. :o

h0use
10-09-2011, 5:09 PM
Raddlock!